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Title: Jim Webb (Obama's Future Veep) Sets a Vision for Uniting Blacks and Hillbilly Whites In Common Cause
Source: Huffington Post
URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/ ... speaks-out-on-ra_n_102915.html
Published: May 21, 2008
Author: Jim Webb
Post Date: 2008-05-21 19:21:03 by Arator
Keywords: Webb, Veep, Victory
Views: 349
Comments: 28

It's refreshing when someone makes the effort to advance the discussion of this year's election beyond debating a black/white divide. So when that someone is oft-mentioned potential Democratic running mate Jim Webb, it's worth taking note.

Webb appeared on Morning Joe today to speak about his newest book, A Time to Fight: Reclaiming a Fair and Just America, and to dodge questions about whether he would accept a spot on Barack Obama's presidential ticket. But since the Kentucky primary had just provided pundits with fodder to discuss the ever-popular "Does Obama have a working whites problem?" Webb weighed in on the election results and his Scots-Irish heritage.

The Virginia senator suggested that race is indeed a factor in Obama's poor performance among white voters along the east of the country, saying, "we shouldn't be surprised by the way they're voting now." But he bristled at what he suggested is a simplistic interpretation of the issue. "When I hear people say this is racism, my back gets up a little bit, because that's my cultural group."

Webb sought to explain what motivates Scots-Irish Americans. First, says Webb, it's not a generic race or geographic label, but rather "a very powerful cultural group that's always underestimated, and it's not always in the Appalachian mountains." And the issue is not Obama himself, who Webb thinks is "saying a lot of good things that will appeal to this cultural group in time."

Rather, Webb -- whose previous book Born Fighting explores the effect of Scots-Irish culture on America's formation -- argued that Scots-Irish voters' unwillingness to support Obama is less about the candidate himself, than about a sense of injustice among the community manifested by the government assistance afforded to minorities in the post-Civil Rights Era:

This isn't Selma, 1965. This is a result of how affirmative action, which was basically a justifiable concept when it applied to African Americans, expanded to every single ethnic group in America that was not white, and these were the people who had not received benefits and were not getting anything out of it. And they're basically saying let's pay attention to what has happened to this cultural group in terms of opportunities.

Webb even drew a parallel between this bloc and African Americans, suggesting that their grievances with and needs from the federal government are remarkably similar.

Black America and Scots-Irish America are like tortured siblings. They both have long history and they both missed the boat when it came to the larger benefits that a lot of other people were able to receive. There's a saying in the Appalachian mountains that they say to one another, and it's, "if you're poor and white, you're out of sight." ...

If this cultural group could get at the same table as black America you could rechange populist American politics. Because they have so much in common in terms of what they need out of government.

A powerful coalition indeed. If only there were two politicians who understood these cultures, and had the desire and capacity to unity them for a common cause...


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I love Jim Webb. He's my peeps. He knows what's what. If he and Obama can get together, it's lights out for the GOP.

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#6. To: Arator, christine, Jethro Tull, rowdee, Peppa (#0)

If I wasn't up to speed on this issue I doubt that I could read between the lines.

What he's saying is many poor whites feel that blacks are consuming more than their "fair share" of welfare, food stamps, etc.,. and that govt is disqualifying whites in favor of blacks.

The fact is, govt agencies have higher expectations for disabled or chronically underemployed whites than blacks, and blacks can seemingly receive benefits with less hassle.

So, when our own govt presumes that there's "white skin privilege" which would permit disabled whites to secure less strenuous (and lower paying) jobs while automatically putting blacks with similar problems on the dole, then poor whites have a case.

What state and federal govts may believe but won't say is, unlike whites, poor blacks cannot be driven through desperation to accept any type of low paying, unskilled employment. But, they will more readily turn to criminal enterprises (robbery, burglary, selling drugs, etc.,.) and blame racism for their permanent underclass criminal status. (Many across the spectrum have argued that welfare is a form of bribery or tribute to keep black crime down to epidemic levels)

Thom Metzger of White Aryan Resistance (WAR) urged whites to "get all the welfare you can now because it'll be gone in a few years."

He's the only self-styled white leader I've ever heard express anger because blacks can more easily get state benefits. And, it made me wonder just who his followers are!

I'd be ashamed to say "Comrade Thom, I was denied bennies so I had to go to work! How come the nig....I mean, African Americans aren't forced to work?" Are these people suggesting that a work ethic should be forced onto blacks instead of allowing it to serve as a point of cultural and racial pride?

The undeniable fact is many seemingly equal whites and poor blacks are not equal at all because a number of blacks have no marketable job skills or the aptitude to be trained for employment. And, in many 2nd and 3rd gen welfare families there isn't even a passing acquaintance with the Protestant work ethic, which is a powerful motivator for those (white and black) who do move off of welfare.

In other words, all things being equal (blacks and whites who are unemployed) things are seldom equal.

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#17. To: HOUNDDAWG (#6)

The undeniable fact is many seemingly equal whites and poor blacks are not equal at all because a number of blacks have no marketable job skills or the aptitude to be trained for employment.

Let me tell you what I see at work. We have plenty of qualified black employees that have been approached (by me) to apply for management positions that they are more than qualified for. Know what? They won't.

In their current postions and financial status, they qualify for additional *aid*. If they move up the company ladder, their financial status goes up as well and they know they lose that *aid*. It's the same reasons they won't marry their *baby's daddy*. They lose the free health care and all the other goodies that they are getting.

Does it piss me off? You betcha. They choose to stay in a low income bracket when they don't have to. They have marketable skills and have the opportunity to learn even more and they chose not to. I haven't run in to that with the white employees, not one time.

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