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Title: Concerning A False Prophet [Hagee's Rapture Cult Must Read]
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URL Source: http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jew ... #Book_VI,_Chapter_V,_Section_2
Published: May 22, 2008
Author: ?
Post Date: 2008-05-22 11:30:10 by AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt
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Comments: 73

".....Book VI, Chapter V, Section 2 (Entire)

Concerning A False Prophet

2. And now the Romans, judging that it was in vain to spare what was round the holy house, burnt all those places, as also the remains of the cloisters and the gates, two excepted; the one on the east side, and the other on the south; both which, however, they burnt afterward (1). They also burnt down the treasury-chambers, in which was an immense quantity of money, and an immense number of garments, and other precious goods, there reposited; and, to speak all in a few words, there it was that the entire riches of the Jews were heaped up together, while the rich people had there built themselves chambers, [to contain such furniture.] The soldiers also came to the rest of the cloisters that were in the outer [court of the] temple, whither the women and children and a great mixed multitude of the people fled, in number about six thousand. But before Caesar had determined anything about these people, or given the commanders any orders relating to them, the soldiers were in such a rage, that they set the cloister of fire; by which means it came to pass that some of these were destroyed by throwing themselves down headlong, and some were burnt in the cloisters themselves. Nor did any one of these escape with his life.

A false prophet* (2) was the occasion of these people's destruction, who had made a public proclamation in the city that very day, that God commanded them to get up upon the temple, and that there they should receive miraculous signs of their deliverance. Now, there was then a great number of false prophets suborned by the tyrants to impose upon the people, who denounced this to them, that they should wait for deliverance from God; and this was in order to keep them from deserting, and that they might be buoyed up above fear and care by such hopes. Now, a man that is in adversity does easily comply with such promises; for when such a seducer makes him believe that he shall be delivered from those miseries which oppress him, then it is that the patient is full of hopes of such deliverance (3).

Whiston's Footnotes

1 Reland here justly takes notice that these Jews who had despised the true Prophet, were deservedly abused and deluded by the false ones.

PRETERIST PERSPECTIVES

1. Isaiah 1:7; 26:11; 33:12; 66:15; Jeremiah 5:14; 7:20; Matthew 3:11-12; 13:40, etc.

Matthew 24:4-5 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many......."

EXCERPT:

VISUAL TIMELINE OF THE ROMAN-JEWISH WAR

TRACKING THE FIRST JEWISH REVOLT FROM AN THEOLOGICAL POINT OF VIEW

POV: Administrative | Factional | Military | Theological

INVESTIGATING CORRELATIONS BETWEEN JOSEPHUS' ACCOUNT AND THE FIRST CENTURY FULFILLMENT OF BIBLE PROPHECY

"And all this prophecy of what would result from their insolence against the Christ has been clearly proved to have taken place after their plot against our Saviour. For it was not before it, but afterwards from that day to this that God turned their feasts into mourning, despoiled them of their famous mother-city, and destroyed the holy Temple therein when Titus and Vespasian were Emperors of Rome, so that they could no longer go up to keep their feasts and sacred meetings. I need not say that a famine of hearing the Word of the Lord has overtaken them all, in return for their rejection of the Word of God; since with one voice they refused Him, so He refuses them." (AD 310s - Eusebius, Demonstratio Evangelica, X) Jesus Predicting Fall of Temple in Word

"Behold, Your House is Left to you Desolate"
Luke 13:35........"

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#29. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

The latest revelations about Hagee were too much for McCain. McCain Denounces Hagee.

aristeides  posted on  2008-05-22   16:55:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: aristeides (#29)

The latest revelations about Hagee were too much for McCain. McCain Denounces Hagee.

I'm not following this election much...I'm not voting.

I did some research on Hagee a while back...I came to the conclusion he wants to get the Jews back to Palestine to fulfill the PTB's Armageddon plot.

BTW, from the article:

"...Hagee is one of the country's best-known evangelical Christian Zionists; he founded a pro-Israel alliance of Christian groups and has donated tens of millions from his Texas-based ministry to support humanitarian causes in Israel. He has said he is driven by the belief that the creation of the state of Israel, and the return of Jews to Palestine, are God's will.

"A hunter is someone with a gun and he forces you. Hitler was a hunter," Hagee says in the sermon. "And the Bible says -- Jeremiah writing -- 'They shall hunt them from every mountain and from every hill and from the holes of the rocks,' meaning there's no place to hide. And that might be offensive to some people but don't let your heart be offended. I didn't write it, Jeremiah wrote it. It was the truth and it is the truth. How did it happen? Because God allowed it to happen. Why did it happen? Because God said my top priority for the Jewish people is to get them to come back to the land of Israel."...."

I don't see that being the meaning of that passage at all.

Before that passage is this:

Jer 16:14 ¶ Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be said, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;

Jer 16:15 But, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers.

I think this refers to God bringing the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel [Exekiel 34] into their own land [Ezekiel 34:11-13]. The Lost Sheep of the House of Israel is the church [Jesus : I am not sent but to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel. To the Pharisees: you are not my sheep.]. He said this while the Israelites were in Israel, so He obviously was talking about the prophetic Israel (the church) and their new promised land, which I have stated more than once (understatement) is America.

What land did He give to their fathers?

the whole world:

Deu 11:24 Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be yours: from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the river Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Deu/Deu011.html#24

But He said he would return them to the land. "...a land where your fathers have dwelt..." :

Eze 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, [even] they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David [shall be] their prince for ever. [Ezekiel 37 talks about the restored Israel joined in the hand of Christ, resurrected in their new land www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze037.html#21 .....

Mat 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. Mat 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth....there's those wheat and tares again.]

Well, the Israelites were in America a long time ago before Columbus:

The Saga of Ancient Hebrew Explorers -- Who Really Discovered America? ...... Israelites were here before us! They left signs of their presence everywhere -- ... http://www.hope-of-israel.org/hebinusa.htm

I don't know, but I suspect it MAY have happened somewhere around here:

after Rachel died.....Jacob, probably heartbroken, took a trip to take his mind off it [just surmising here, of course].

Gen 35:21 ¶ And Israel [Jacob] journeyed, and spread his tent beyond the tower of Edar.

Gen 35:22 And it came to pass, when Israel dwelt in that land, that Reuben

went and lay with Bilhah his father's concubine: and Israel heard [it]. Now the sons of Jacob were twelve:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gen/Gen035.html#21

"Edar":

Outline of Biblical Usage

Migdal-eder = "tower of the flock"

1) a shepherd's watchtower near Bethlehem

Authorized Version (KJV) Translation Count — Total: 2 AV — Edar 1, syn reading "tower of the flock" 1

Gesenius's Lexicon (Help)

http://cf.blueletterbible.org/la....cfm?Strongs=H04029&t=kjv

Correlating Passages

Mic 4:8 And thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion; the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Gen/35/21.html

I don't have any proof that's how it happened, but for now, that's my story and I'm sticking to it:).

At any rate, for Hagee to say that passage in Jeremiah being about the Jews going back to Palestine is hogwash. God told them THIS IS NOT YOUR REST:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mic/Mic002.html#10

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall.
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the kings' horses and all the kings' men
Can not put Humpty together again. - Psalm 2.

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As I said earlier I don't argue about religion and if you don't believe in the Rapture of course that is between you and God. But I think Corinthians--1 Corinthians 15, verses 51-58 is about the rapture. But again, I am not arguing.

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