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Title: McCain's Pastor Hagee on Hitler and the Jews
Source: The Nation
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080522/cm_thenation/15322778
Published: May 21, 2008
Author: The Nation
Post Date: 2008-05-22 13:47:00 by F.A. Hayek Fan
Keywords: None
Views: 2362
Comments: 31

The Nation -- John Hagee, the controversial pastor who has endorsed John McCain, argued in a late 1990s sermon that God sent Hitler to help the Jews get to the promised land (Israel, not Auschwitz).

Why did God allow the Holocaust to happen? According to a report in the Huffington Post by Sam Stein, Hagee's answer was: "Because God said my top priority for the Jewish people is to get them to come back to the land of Israel."

The report raises several questions. Did God have to be so rough in his methods? Instead of putting the Jews on trains to Auschwitz, couldn't he have gotten them bus tickets to Tel Aviv?

Hagee made the news earlier when he told Terry Gross on NPR's "Fresh Air" that Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for the people of New Orleans who allowed a Gay Pride parade to be scheduled. According to that theory, the Holocaust should be seen as God's punishment for the Jews allowing those Gay Pride parades in Warsaw, Odessa and Lodz.

Alternatively, Hurricane Katrina could be viewed as God's method of getting the people of New Orleans to move to Houston.

Hagee got in trouble earlier for a sermon in which he called the Catholic church "the Great Whore." He would never say that about Golda Meier.

Hagee is one of the organizers of Christians United for Israel, which lobbies Congress on behalf of the Jewish state. He has received many awards from right-wing Jewish organizations, incudling the Israel Award of the Zionist Organization of America, presented in a ceremony in Dallas by former UN Ambassador Jean Kirkpatrick.

Hagee's sermon on Hitler as God's agent, delivered in the late 1990s, was first posted by Bruce Wilson on his site, Talk To Action.

Next question: why does John McCain think God sent us Hitler?

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Hagee on Hitler

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#10. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, Cynicom, Dakmar, christine, Horse, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, DeaconBenjamin, SCPO Blackshoe Retired (#9)

Herzl The Antisemitic Side of Zionism (Eng. subs) Pt. 1/9

Herzl hypocrisy at 6:24. At an Israeli mall, people think one of his remarks as so evil that Hitler must have made it.

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Title: Why Hitler was right and the truth about the new world order
Source: hitlerwasright
URL Source: http://hitlerwasright/
Published: Sep 22, 2006
Author: hitlerwasright
Post Date: 2006-09-22 20:49:31 by blowfish
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jews are bad, they are bad for peace, the economy and sustained equality. the jews act as if they were the only people impacted upon in WWII well sory, it was a world war not a jewish war! the truth is, america had not intended to intervene in europe, and Germany was expected to become a powerful ally in thier then in its infancy New World Order. Things did not go as such when Germany invaded Russia, forcing America to act to protect its own unilateral interests, as if Germany had successfully completed it's invasion, which it was on course to do, America would have become subordinate to the newly established European Empire led by Adolf Hitler and the Nazi's. Well, we now stand on the brink of a new German riech, with german sentiment against the unilateral US/UK alliance is growing, and resentment over war reparations to Isreal and other European countries is on the rise. The jewish population may again become persecuted, especially by the 7 million muslims now living in Germany. The actions of Isreal have been absolutely unnessecary of late, and should it come under attack from its arab neighbours, i would violently oppose Australia being involved in any defence support. i would rather we were good friends with jordan, lebanon, syria and Eygypt/Arabia, as we have more to fear from them than the puny Isreali's, who are consistently allowed to trump thier nieghbours due to an unknown nuclear capability. Why do we allow such a pathetic excuse for democracy to stand? why don't we invade Isreal?

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jews are bad, they are bad for peace, the economy and sustained equality.

You mean in comparison to those saintly Nazi's,right?

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Does your mommy know you're on the computer?

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I bet fish aren't the only recipients of your talents....

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You should post over on Freedom4Um. All the Jew haters post there. You might even find a friend.

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We've got a new nazi spammer.

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We've got a new nazi spammer.

Thanks Marguerite for pinging Goldi-Lox. We don't need crap like this on LP.

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If I had to chose between a Jew or a Muslim, I think I know which group I would pick.

I would pick the one that's not attacking my nation, religion or civilization!

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Before I opened this I thought either nitesofstjude or OInk...

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TO: Blowfish - With all due respect my man, (I assume I am speaking to a male), should you take the time to sit down and dust off that ole black book and begin to read, perhaps from the first page and then methodically onward, you will find a story repeated over and over and over of the Jews and their tribulations. Oh, let me beat you to the punch, you can declare it is all falsehood, or anything else you choose to use to deny the book and story, but the Jews are who we as a Christian Nation, and I am sorry to offend the A.C.L.U. and all the other misguided heathen subversive organizations that were allowed to materialize from ivy leagers not paying attention to what the Commie, Atheist, Teachers were pounding into the children's brains, but the Jews and Isralis are who we have a common bond with. We are not a Hindu Nation, we are not a Buddist Nation, we are not Hippie Nation and let's all smoke dope, have a group hug, and feel good Nation. We certainly are not an muslim Nation nor do we relate to allah. We are a Christian Nation. As such we have an inherent responsibility to defend and protect Israel. The rest of the bunch are after the oil these barbarians have. Oh, guess who it was that developed the oil sites, drilled for the oil, and set up the oil process. We did not always have an OPEC. Sorry to go off on a tangent, but I am totally fed up with these B.S. off the wall statements being made by some never done nothing in my life but bitch types with no response being returned.

Impeach George W. Bush. Tom Tancredo for President. God Bless the Patriotic Vigalante Minutemen. God Bless the Patriotic Vigalante Border Guardians. Keep your powder dry. Remember come November. Vote the bums out. All except Tom Tancredo. Deport, deport, deport. www.constitutionparty.com

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You're a bit over the top in your distorted theorizing on this one.

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Does your mommy know you're on the computer?

I doubt his mommy will even talk to him. She has to be hiding in shame for giving birth to him.

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We've got a new nazi spammer.

For once,you are dead on the money.

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We are a Christian Nation. As such we have an inherent responsibility to defend and protect Israel.

Your first sentence--correct. Your second sentence--total B-S!

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TO: KnightsofstJohn - Oh worthy Traveler, please enlighten me. Regards Ghost.

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As an American, I don't have "an inherent responsibility to defend and protect Israel." Neither does my country.

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TO: KnightsofStJohn - Ah so weedhopper, I listened to that philosophy shortly when the "new" group took over the "defense"? of Viet Nam. Regards Ghost.

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I would pick the one that's not attacking my nation, religion or civilization!

I'm stumped. The British? In other news, Marguerite really dislikes Ron Paul supporters. I don't think I"m one of her favorite posters at LP.

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Every time I posted on ElPee olde Hag Marge went whining and sniveling to Goldi.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-22   21:36:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom, SCPO Blackshoe Retired, Original_Intent, Dakmar (#15)

I asked her once what her nationality was. All she would say was that she was posting from Europe. No matter where they go, there is Israel on their minds. Who will think about America? This is my promised land.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-22   21:43:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeye, Cynicom (#16) (Edited)

The most virulent anti Ron Paul people also seem to be the most pro-Israel. I won't insult anyones intelligence by asking if it seems a tad too coincidental to be believed as such.

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#19. To: Dakmar (#18)

Sometimes it takes a hardship to find out who one's friends really are. Asking for a little distance should not be answered with demanding snarls.

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I remember a contest in grade school, there were like six different colored ribbons as prizes. I won the green one, which signified fourth or fifth place, out of four or five I think it was. It was a beautiful shade of green, all shimery too. God how I loved that ribbon and came to regret my fall from grace once everyone owned some sort of ribbon.

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