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Title: When Survival of White People Is at Stake, There’s No Place for Morals
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Western Voices World News
URL Source: http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=4707
Published: May 23, 2008
Author: Click on link at end of article ;-)
Post Date: 2008-05-23 03:10:15 by X-15
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Views: 256
Comments: 16
In short, the imperatives of existence should be given priority over other concerns — however important they may be — including liberal and humanitarian values, support for human rights and democratization.** There is little disagreement that every European derived leader, organization, community and individual has a duty to help ensure the continuity of the European derived people. But in a world where the long-term existence of white people is far from certain, the imperative to exist inevitably gives rise to difficult questions, foremost among them this: When the survival of white Americans conflicts with the morals of the same, for example, is existence worthwhile, or even possible? Physical existence, we would argue, must come first. No matter how moral a society aspires to be, physical existence must take precedent. Clear external and internal dangers threaten the very existence of the United States as a European American state. It is very likely that the collapse of the United States or the loss of its nature would undermine the existence of the European derived population around the world as a whole. And even given the existence of a white nation state, less clear but no less fateful dangers threaten the long-term sustainable existence of the same wherever they may live. When the requirements of existence conflict with other values, therefore, realpolitik should be given priority. From the threat of a disastrous immigration policy with the southern hemisphere, to the necessity of maintaining distinctions between “us” and “others” in order to limit assimilation, this imperative ought to guide policymakers. Regrettably, human history refutes the idealistic claim that in order to exist for long, a state, society or people has to be moral. Given the foreseeable realities of the 21st century and beyond, harsh choices are unavoidable, with requirements of existence often contradicting other important values. The current bloodbath in South Africa and Zimbabwe of white people bears this out. Some might argue that putting existence first may be counter-productive in terms of existence itself, because what may be regarded as immoral action can undermine external and internal support essential for existence. However, the calculus of realpolitik gives primacy to existence, leaving limited room for ethical considerations. The unfortunate reality is that the Euro derived people of the world may be faced with tragic choices in which important values have to be sacrificed for even more important ones. Responsible decisions in such difficult situations require clear recognition of the involved moral issues, careful pondering of all relevant values and acceptance of responsibility for one’s autonomous judgment. They also demand an effort to reduce to a minimum the violation of moral values. Nonetheless, when faced with such choices, white people around the world people ought not be captivated by political correctness and other thinking-repressing fashions. When it comes to China, for example, efforts to stave off the rising superpower’s ties to the European American people should trump moral-minded campaigns to alter Beijing’s domestic policies and handling of Tibet, for example. It is to recognize that however just such moral stances may or may not be, America’s white people must give primacy to existence. What is required is a priori pondering of values, so as to have guidelines ready for judgment in specific contexts and under crisis conditions. The overall issue is whether the imperative for the white people of the world to exist is a categorical one overriding nearly all other values, or one among many imperatives of similar standing. Given both the history and current situation of the worlds white population in terms of Third World immigration, affirmative action-type laws and political correctness, I would argue that the imperative to assure existence is of overriding moral weight. Let us leave aside reliance on transcendental arguments, biblical commands and sayings of the sages, all of which are open to various interpretations. The justification for giving priority to the needs of existence is four-fold. First, white people across the earth have an inherent right to exist, just as any other people or civilization. Second, a people that are regularly demonized by a hostile media empire is entitled morally, in terms of distributive justice, to be very tough in taking care of its existence, including the moral right and even duty to kill and be killed if this is essential for assuring existence — even at the cost of other values and to other people. This argument is all the more compelling in light of the unprecedented two world wars only a few decades ago that led to the death of millions of white people supported directly and indirectly, or at least not prevented when possible, by large parts of the political world. Third, given the history of white people, there is a good chance that we will continue to make much-needed ethical and technological contributions to humanity. However, in order to do so we require a stable existence. Fourth, the United States is the only democratic country whose very existence is endangered by deeply hostile actors, some of which purport to be our political and military allies. This justifies — indeed, requires — measures that would be not only unnecessary but also potentially immoral in other circumstances. White people should give much more weight to the imperative to assure existence than to other values. There are, of course, limits; nothing can justify initiating genocide. But with the few exceptions where being killed and destroyed is better than transgressing against absolute and total norms, assuring the existence of white people, including the United States and all lands settled by European persons, should be valued as a top priority. Thus, if the security of the United States for example is significantly strengthened by good relations with Turkey and China, but in some views Turkey is guilty of genocide in the past against the Armenians and China of now repressing Tibetans and domestic opposition, Euro-derived leaders and organizations should support Turkey and China, or at least remain neutral when it comes to their affairs. At a minimum, white leaders should not join the chorus of liberal and humanitarian actors condemning Turkey and China. Similarly, the leaders of predominately white nation-states should support harsh measures against terrorists who potentially endanger white people, even at the cost of human rights and humanitarian law. And if the threat is sufficiently grave, the use of weapons of mass destruction by these predominately white nations would be justified if likely to be necessary for assuring the state’s survival, the bitter price of large number of killed innocent civilians notwithstanding. To be sure, there is much room for debate on what is really required for existence. Giving priority to the imperative to exist does not imply supporting each and every policy of each and every white nation-state or even the United States. Indeed, the opposite is true: leaders, organizations and individuals have a duty to criticize policies that in their view endanger the scattered children of Europe and their people’s existence, along with an obligation to propose alternative existence-assuring policies. But at the end of the day there is no way around the tough and painful practical implications of prioritizing existence as an overriding moral norm over being moral in other respects. When important for existence, violating the rights of others should be accepted, with regret but with determination. Support or condemnation of various countries and their policies should be decided upon primarily in light of probable consequences for the existence of the European people wherever they may live. In short, the imperatives of existence should be given priority over other concerns — however important they may be — including liberal and humanitarian values, support for human rights and democratization. This tragic but compelling conclusion is not easy to swallow, but it is essential for the future of white people. Once our existence is assured, much can and should be sacrificed. But given present and foreseeable realities, assuring existence must come first. **NOTE: The above essay is a derivative copy of the original article, www.forward.com/articles/13388/ . Needless to say had the above piece been written on face value by any other ethnic group, but most especially European Americans, there's no telling how severe the outcry would have been. Please note the underlined words (above) indicates where words and phrases were substituted in the original piece. I think we made our point. -- Editors
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#1. To: X-15 (#0)
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Try telling that to the white guliters for Obama. They can't get over the fact that black slavery was ended about 150 years ago in America. They have no reason to feel guilty. They are utter morons. Blacks are not discriminated against one iota in America. Instead they are given preferential status just about everywhere even though they don't deserve it. They have come to expect to be treated as royalty by whites. Whites owe blacks nothing, and certainly don't need to treat then any different than they would other whites.
God is always good!
White people have to learn to go quietly into the night, or they will eventually be dragged away by force.
I’m willing to bet a lot of people don’t get the point.
The 14th Amendment freed no one, rather it deceptively enslaved everyone. Section 4 of the 14th Amendment states that no U.S. citizen may question the national debt. This is to say the extent of debt is none of your business SLAVE, just pay it. People might argue which ethnic group are most enslaved in America, when the facts are indicative of complete bondage through debt of all ethnicities. Throughout history the creditor is master and debtor the slave. This maxim is applicable to the U.S. Inc. which is indebted to the federal reserve system, making the "fed" the actual MASTER over the government that acts as slave driver. This same scenario operates throughout the world through the IMF, World Bank, Bank of International Settlements, the Import Export Bank and all Central Banks like the "fed" that operate their agendas with impunity over the peoples everywhere. There are ethnic differences that make each and every race unique. The ingrained attitudes learned through a host of indoctrination factions such as the school system the media and the churches work against humanity by convincing the races they must distrust each other to the point of one ethnicity destroying another. For a white man to prefer a white female as a mate is normal, the same for every other ethnicity, but often times is presented as racist evil. Nonsense, the natural proclivity to extend ones own race is natural. When outside sources promote unnatural relations or affirmative action agendas they are operating an agenda driven design to divide and conquer ... and they're very good at it. The media in America has been so infiltrated by government that most every minute is propaganda purposed to create a pattern of thought conducive to the viewer or listener being programmed to think a particular way. Freedom and the ability to achieve its blessings can not occur until everyone determines to fight the banker prison of debt based currency and credit. Until the collective consciousness awakens to the incarceration attendant to credit based economic systems there will be NO LIBERTY outside of what the bankers allow for the purpose of keeping slaves ignorant of their enslavement. In this type of system all PROPERTY is collateral belonging to the bankers and never is it privately owned by individuals. When any entity owns all property be it called a STATE or BANK ... it is effectually god/master and all else is subject to the whims of this entity. The people's freedom will demand the removal of debt based credit currency, and will also remove the never ending race baiting bullshit that we have been indoctrinated to accept that works against our ability to organize against the elitist psychopaths snickering about our ignorance.
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
I think we made our point. -- Editors You sure did! But the "jews" are Special People. They can do no wrong. Some wonder why some don't like "israel" for stealing that land. This article helps to explain why, and it comes straight from the horses ass.
Um, I'd flip that. If "white" people abandon morality and become more animal than human, then their survival (as total reprobates) becomes even harder to justify. "Good" ends never justify evil means. Get over yourself (and your pale epidermis). Your "whiteness" uber alles mentality diminishes all "white" people by association.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
This piece was a spoof of a real article about Jews. Click the link at the end of the article. You just told Jews to get over themselves and their cult. LOL!
God is always good!
interesting
Suggestion: Read the article. The more and more posts I read of yours, the more I think this is not the original arator but some mind numbed imposter.
"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"
For months, I've been posting here articles by Philip Weiss that say essentially that. If your point is that, if Jews can say this about themselves, then non-Jews can say it too, many people, including myself, and including a good many Jews for that matter, would say that it's wrong for either Jews or non-Jews to say this. By the way, the cult that I and Weiss think the Jews should get over is Zionism, the idolatrous worship of a state, not their prior theistic religion.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
That question used to bother me; then I had kids -- who look like me. Some might argue that putting existence first may be counter-productive in terms of existence itself, because what may be regarded as immoral action can undermine external and internal support essential for existence. Chicken and egg; there'd be no threat if not for the fact that most whites provide strong short-term reinforcement to other whites for out-group altruism. [ But in the context of the original; the danger is losing the forbearance of whites, particularly white Americans, who have a mystical hardon for universalizing ethics.] It is to recognize that however just such moral stances may or may not be, America’s white people must give primacy to existence. There's a misconception not addressed here -- whitey's achilles' heel, which runs back to the place and time in which he evolved -- i.e. that there actually are universal values from which one can construct a universal ethic; that there is a morality, and the good. Manners, habits, and ritual are more important than verbalized moral precepts; even if the latter might be universal in the basics such as murder and theft (for blacks this is questionable), they depend greatly for observance on the former things, which are not universal. What is required is a priori pondering of values, so as to have guidelines ready for judgment in specific contexts and under crisis conditions. That is important -- at least for whites, for whom survival and group identity is matter of moral stamina -- but of even more importance is exercise and practice at the habits that follow from them. Too much thinking is a huge danger in a crisis; the action needed at the moment should come immediately and naturally, without thought, from long habit. Yes, you must study the rules of the road, but the verbal knowledge of them is of no use when the car in front of you crashes.
If you will go along with me we'll travel with the tide Ah! You are correct noone222. That's why European Americans United supports the abolition of the Federal Reserve. As for the psychopaths -- in a system in which the only measure of value is money and no independent standard of judgment exists -- whatever *works* will *win* -- and thus sociopathic behavior will be rewarded. That means we will have more and more psychopaths as time goes onward unless a major change is made. That's why European Americans United supports a code of ethics for its members. When we reduce the value of human beings to that of a commodity whose time is to be bought and sold in a global marketplace, we make the same fundamental mistake that the communists did. That is, seeing humans as purely material without their all-important psycho-spiritual dimensions. This is why European Americans United supports the building of noble character and transcendent values.
Good morning; How wonderfully politically incorrect.
Did you drop in to lecture us again? Why not lecture the author of the forward.com article, first?
First, white people across the earth have an inherent right to exist, just as any other people or civilization.
#2. To: RickyJ (#1)
Try telling that to the white guliters for Obama.
#3. To: X-15 (#0)
I think we made our point.
#4. To: RickyJ (#1)
#5. To: X-15 (#0)
bttt
#6. To: X-15, All (#0)
**NOTE: The above essay is a derivative copy of the original article, www.forward.com/articles/13388/ . Needless to say had the above piece been written on face value by any other ethnic group, but most especially European Americans, there's no telling how severe the outcry would have been. Please note the underlined words (above) indicates where words and phrases were substituted in the original piece.
#7. To: X-15 (#0)
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When Survival of White People Is at Stake, There’s No Place for Morals
#8. To: Arator (#7)
"Good" ends never justify evil means. Get over yourself (and your pale epidermis). You obviously think that "whiteness" is merely skin deep.
#9. To: X-15 (#0)
When Survival of the Jewish People Is at Stake, There’s No Place for Morals
#10. To: Arator (#7)
#11. To: Arator (#7)
If "white" people abandon morality and become more animal than human, then their survival (as total reprobates) becomes even harder to justify.
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#12. To: RickyJ (#8)
You just told Jews to get over themselves and their cult
#13. To: X-15 (#0)
When the survival of white Americans conflicts with the morals of the same, for example, is existence worthwhile, or even possible?
And I will always keep you on the sheltered side
#14. To: noone222 (#4)
The people's freedom will demand the removal of debt based credit currency, and will also remove the never ending race baiting bullshit that we have been indoctrinated to accept that works against our ability to organize against the elitist psychopaths snickering about our ignorance.
#15. To: JohnYoung (#14)
European Americans United
#16. To: Arator (#7)
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