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Title: The Great Cougar Cover Up
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URL Source: http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=6158309
Published: May 23, 2008
Author: Chuck Goudie
Post Date: 2008-05-23 09:54:30 by Kamala
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The Great Cougar Cover Up

Wednesday, May 21, 2008 | 10:53 PM Story Media Top Stories

illinoiscougarwatch.com/

By Chuck Goudie

Remember the lone, wandering cougar that was shot and killed by Chicago police?

Some wildlife experts say it may not have been alone and may not have wandered so far. Are government officials in the Midwest covering up a dangerous and growing cougar population?

In some places, they're called mountain lions. Around here, they're known as cougars.

There are questions about whether government officials here in the Midwest are waging "the great cougar cover-up" by ignoring evidence and disavowing the wild cats' existence. Story continues belowAdvertisement

We know how one cougar's journey ended in the back yard of a Roscoe Village home. But Illinois authorities still don't know is where its journey began.

Although genetic analysis isn't complete, initial tests suggest the cougar made a 950 mile trip to Chicago from South Dakota. Wildlife experts interviewed by the I-Team say it's more likely the cougar came from much closer.

"I stopped. It frightened me," said witness Wendy Chamberlain. Chamberlain investigates livestock attacks as township supervisor in Parma, Michigan. After documenting numerous accounts of cougars killing farm animals, Chamberlain herself saw one a few months ago near her home.

"It walked and went into the grass in this area right here," she said.

"We think the population is probably around 100 adults," said Dennis Fijalkowski, Michigan Wildlife Conservancy. Fijalkowski's wildlife organization says there is a native population of cougars born; bred and residing in Michigan.

"I think we have 1,500 sightings in the last five years. But we estimate that is just a fraction of the total. A lot of people won't come forward because they've been made fools of for so long by the state," said Fijalkowski.

The Michigan Wildlife Conservancy has catalogued evidence; done their own DNA testing and obtained a video of cougars in far southeastern Michigan. When the woman who shot the video showed it to the Michigan Department of Natural Resources, officials told her they were common house cats.

A local video production company with experience in law enforcement cases tested the state's theory by putting a common house cat in the same spot the woman photographed the suspected cougar, and they compared its size to a 6-foot tall man in the middle and the suspected cougar on the left. Conclusion: it was no house cat.

Some cougar experts say it's more likely Chicago's cougar came from the upper peninsula of Michigan than South Dakota, but DNR officials in both states say they have no cougar populations.

"Could be ten, 20 or hundreds of cougar sightings in a year. But many turn out to be dogs, coyotes," said Dan Ludwig, Illinois DNR biologist.

The Illinois DNR has verified only three cougars here since the late 1800s, and those have been within the past several years. In the last six weeks, Illinois DNR biologists have investigated a dozen reports of cougars in metro Chicago and verified none.

"All the evidence we looked at came out negative," said Ludwig.

In Michigan, retired DNR forester Mike Zuidema says he was ridiculed when he reported seeing a cougar. Zudiema has now documented 1,100 cougar sightings in upper Michigan since the 1950s and believes authorities are trying to hide a growing cougar population.

"It was a cover-up initially related to budgets," he said.

He says state officials didn't want to pay the costs of managing a new endangered species and that recently a high-ranking Michigan DNR official told him there is a disinformation campaign underway.

"We have been told that when we talk to the press and news channels, not to say it was a mountain lion. You can say the tracks were consistent with mountain lions. Or it probably was a mountain lion. But don't actually say it was a mountain lion, even if you think so," said Zuidema.

That noncommittal approach was taken when the I-Team asked a Michigan DNR official whether there are cougars in his state.

"The department is looking at it. We feel that there is a possibility that there could be individuals scattered," said Adam Bump, Michigan DNR.

And even though some wildlife experts say Illinois could now have a breeding cougar population, DNR officials here also deny it.

"We do not feel there is a viable cougar population in Illinois. But what we do have possibly is transient animals, or what biologists say are dispersing animals, animals coming from their home area where they were born looking for another area," said Ludwig.

The cougar issue was magnified last month when Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley received threatening letters complaining about the animal shot and killed by police. The FBI is now investigating whether those threats are connected to an arson next to Daley's vacation home in Michigan.

(Copyright ©2008 WLS-TV/DT. All Rights Reserved.)


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#1. To: Kamala (#0)

When the woman who shot the video showed it to the Michigan Department of Natural Resources, officials told her they were common house cats

You must remember, these are gubmint workers...their incompetence is our best hope of the demise of the evil empire.

"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"

angle  posted on  2008-05-23   10:15:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Kamala, *Agriculture-Environment* (#0)


Don't let turtle know I have him on bozo or I'll put you on bozo too!

farmfriend  posted on  2008-05-23   10:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Kamala, farmfriend (#0)

This is likely the tip of the iceberg. In Oregon, thanks to hunting restrictions enacted a few years ago with a tear jerker Bambi-ist campaign, the Mountain Lion/Cougar population in Oregon is exploding. There are places I used to fish that I will no longer fish without carrying a gun and even then you are not entirely safe as cougars are very silent hunters and will take you from behind. Their favorite tactic is take their prey from behind and break your neck before you have a chance to react. I love the wild, and all that lives in it, but that does not mean that I want to see an exploding population of predators that regard me as meat. While attacks are rare it is only a matter of time before the population gets large enough to where they start picking off kids in campgrounds. So far there are some complaints from cattlemen and sheep herders and the policy is "shoot, shovel, and shut up". There have been a couple of fatalities in Northern California - one a woman jogger, the other I'm aware of is a small child that wandered out of the yard (rural) and whose tracks were followed up to the point where they coincided with cougar spoor, after that all that was found were cougar tracks.

Predators are just that - predators, and the wild is not some Disney program. Predators do prey, and a soft bodied human is good meat.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-05-23   10:53:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Kamala (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-23   11:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent, Kamala, ghostdogtxn (#3)

There have been a couple of fatalities in Northern California - one a woman jogger, the other I'm aware of is a small child that wandered out of the yard (rural) and whose tracks were followed up to the point where they coincided with cougar spoor, after that all that was found were cougar tracks.

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1910-1985

76 years with no known attacks.

1986

March. (Attack #3) A lion attacked a 5-year-old girl, Laura Small, in Caspers Regional Park, Orange County, resulting in a $2 million court judgment against Orange County. Laura remains blind in one eye and partially paralyzed. (OCR 9/29/98, OC)

October. (Attack #4) A 6-year-old boy, Justin Mellon, received minor injuries resulting from a lion attack. (OCR 9/29/98, OC)

1987-1991

5 years with no known attacks.

1992

12 March. (Attack #5) A 9-year-old boy, Darron Arroyo, was attacked by a cougar as he was hiking on a trail with his two brothers in Gaviota State Park, Santa Barbara County. His father, Steven Arroyo, about a hundred yards behind the boys, heard the screams and saw the lion dragging Darron. Steven rushed toward the cougar, picked up a rock, threw it and struck the lion between the eyes. The lion dropped the boy and retreated. Darron sustained bites to the face and head and scratches to the chest. His parents sued the State of California. (MLCSP; OC; SDUT 4/15/95, A3; Santa Barbara News Press, Gaviota State Park; California Department of Fish and Game; Abundant Wildlife Society Of North America; Mountain Lion Fact Sheet by T. R. Mader, Research Director)

1993

August. (Attack #6) A 6-year-old boy, Devin Foote, was attacked in the Manzano River area of the Los Padres National Forest, Santa Barbara County. This attack is not recognized by the California Department of Fish and Game because injuries were not verified by a physician, nor was the attack site investigated by an agency (MLCSP, SDUT 4/15/95, A3; LAT 4/3/95; United Conservation Alliance News 3(4):4-5, Oct. 1993; E. Lee Fitzhugh, personal communication 1/15/04)

September. (Attack #7) A young cougar bit a 10-year-old girl camping with her family at Paso Picacho Campground in Cuyamaca Rancho State Park. The girl was slightly injured. The mountain lion believed to have attacked the girl was tracked down and killed. (SDUT 12/11/94 A1; MLCSP)

1994

23 April. (Attack #8, death #4) Barbara Schoener, 40, a friend of my sister and a long-distance runner in excellent physical shape, was killed by an 80-pound female mountain lion in Northern California on the American River Canyon trail in the Auburn State Recreation Area. No one observed the attack, and hence there are conflicting hypotheses about what occurred.

Barbara's husband Pete Schoener says that the lion was probably hidden on a ledge above the trail and pounced on Barbara as she passed underneath the lion. The lion knocked her down a slope and she was badly wounded, but she fought the animal with her arms before she was killed. Then the lion dragged her farther before eating most of her body.

The accounts in the paper said that investigators theorize that the lion surprised her by sneaking within 20' behind her on the tight trail and then ambushing Schoener, knocking her 30' down an 80° slope. Indications are she already was badly wounded but briefly fought the animal there before the lion finished the kill.

The trail is part of the Western States 100-Mile Endurance Run trail. Barbara was the first person in California in the 20th Century to die from a mountain lion attack.

The mountain lion may have been protecting its one-month-old cub by "defending" its territory against intruders, or may have "recognized" Barbara as prey because she was "running away" from the lion.

Barbara Schoener was 5' 11" and 140-150 pounds. (The papers incorrectly gave 5' 8" and 120 pounds.)

(SDUT 5/8/94, A3; 5/13/94, A3; Pete Schoener, via an email from my sister Connie Vavricek)

16 August. (Attack #9) 50-year-old Troy Winslow and his wife Robin, along with 48-year-old Kathleen Strehl, were camping in the yard of a rustic cabin near the isolated hamlet of Dos Rios in Mendocino County, when a fight broke out between their dog and a 2-year-old, 60-pound rabid female mountain lion at 4:30 a.m. The lion retreated under the cabin after they threw rocks at it. Near daybreak, the cougar attacked Kathleen, giving her four puncture wounds in the arm and knocking her to the ground. The others jumped on the cat and Robin stabbed it with a 12-inch kitchen bread knife. The cat bit off Winslow's thumb during the melee when the man grabbed the animal near its mouth. (SDUT 8/17/94, A3; OC)

10 December. (Attack #10, death #5) Iris M. Kenna, a 5-foot-4 and no more than 115 pounds, 56-year-old woman in excellent physical condition, was killed near Cuyamaca Peak at Cuyamaca Rancho State Park while hiking to Cuyamaca Peak alone in the early morning. She was attacked near the bench dedicated to her at the intersection of the Lookout Fire Road and Azalea Springs Fire Road / Fern Flat Fire Road. (SDUT 12/11/94 A1)

1995

20 March. (Attack #11) Scott Fike, a 27-year-old cyclist, was bitten and cut by a cougar near Mount Lowe in the Angeles National Forest, on 20 March 1995, and fought the cougar off with rocks. The cougar was then tracked down and killed. (SDUT 3/25/95, A3)

1996-2003

8 years with no known attacks.

2004

8 January. (Attacks #12 and 13; death #6) 35-year-old Mark Jeffrey Reynolds, an amateur mountain bike racer, was reported as being killed by a mountain lion sometime after 1:25 p.m. at Whiting Ranch Wilderness Park in southern Orange County. His bicycle was later found with the chain unbroken, but off the sprockets. Jim Amormino, a spokesman for the Orange County Sheriff's Department, speculated that Mark was attacked as he was fixing his bike.

However, the autopsy results apparently show no damage to his neck at all, or any damage indicative of an actual attack that caused his death.

The speculation that fits the facts best is that Mark had a heart attack while riding his bike, fell off his bike, causing the chain to fall off the sprockets. The cougar then simply scavenged him while he was dead on the ground. Unfortunately, as is typically the case for lion feeding, the heart was missing, so we'll never know for sure if he did have a heart attack.

Later the same day, Anne Hjelle, 30, of Santa Ana, a former Marine who works as a fitness instructor, was jumped by the same mountain lion. Anne was attacked a short distance down the trail from Mark's body, which was not visible to her, while she was riding her mountain bicycle. The lion jumped her from a slight rise (~4 feet) on the right hand side of the trail, from under some high brush. The lion quickly had Anne's face in its mouth, despite the presence of Anne's helmet. Her riding companion, Debi Nicholls, was about 30 feet behind Anne and witnessed the attack. Debi threw her bike at the mountain lion, to no avail, then grabbed Anne's legs and screamed as the lion dragged both of them 30 feet down the slope into the brush. The lion kept attacking Anne, alternating between her helmet, face and neck. The screams brought Nils Magnuson, 33, of Long Beach, and Mike Castellano to the scene, who called 911 and scared off the mountain lion by throwing rocks at it.

Anne was airlifted to Mission Hospital. Her condition was initially critical, was upgraded from serious as of early 9 January, and to fair as of 10 January.

Nils was nearby since he had just found Mark's bicycle, and was about to look for Mark. (Mountain bikers crash fairly frequently, so finding a crashed bicycle is not an unusual occurrence. It is customary to stop and render aid to crashees.) After this attack, Mark's body was found dead higher on the trail than where Anne was attacked. Mark had apparently been dead for some hours, and his body had been half-eaten and partially buried, typical of a mountain lion kill.

Later that night, Sheriff's deputies shot and killed a healthy 3- to 4-year- old, 110-122 pound male lion, which was spotted 50 yards from the man's body. Initial tests found human skin tissue, and portions of a human lung and liver in the lion's stomach, which were confirmed later to match Mark's DNA. No fibers from Anne's clothing, nor any slivers from her helmet, were found in the initial examination, but later DNA tests matched Anne to the blood on one of the lion's claws. Curiously, no deer hairball was found in the lion.

Also that night, about four miles north of these attacks, a second mountain lion, a 70 pound female, was hit by a car and killed. This lion was not involved in either attack.

Although Whiting Ranch was closed for two days about a year earlier due to the sighting of a mountain lion and her two young cubs, the lion linked to the attacks could not have been one of those cubs, due to its age.

Eric Sanderson reports that many deer frequent Whiting Ranch, so there was a plentiful supply of the normal food resource for a cougar. Eric routinely sees a couple of deer on each of his noontime rides.

For readers not in Southern California, Whiting Ranch is in Orange County, 44 air miles southeast from the city of Los Angeles and 71 air miles north of the city of San Diego. More precisely, the park is between the city of Irvine and the Cleveland National Forest (Thomas Brothers Map #862, G5).

Franko, of Franko's Maps, has kindly provided a map of Whiting Ranch on which I have plotted the location of the attack and of the killing of the cougar.

Sources: an anonymous mountain biker (email of 2/3/04); Nils Magnuson (personal emails of 1/17/04 and 1/23/04), Eric Sanderson (personal emails of 1/10/04, 1/11/04, 1/16/04 and 1/26/04); L.A. Times, 1/27/04; 1/11/04 (online story); 1/10/04, A1, A19; an anonymous mountain bike rider (see below); Signon San Diego 1/9/04, 10:30 pm; L.A. Times 1/9/04, A1; CBS News / AP; KNBC-TV News Report, 11 pm, 1/8/04; L.A. Times; NBC News; secondhand private communications of the autopsy results.

The following information was written before I learned about the autopsy results, and hence should be read with the possibility in mind that Mark died of a heart attack, not a cougar attack:

The time of Mark's death is surprisingly uncertain. The initial report claimed he had been dead "many hours to many days", which was probably a result of the cougar partially burying the body (as pointed out by Eric Sanderson). After the body was identified, the time shifted to "noon". However a mountain bike rider (who prefers to remain anonymous) reported to me that he rode down the Cactus Hill Trail at 1:25 pm, as recorded by his bicycle computer. He talked with Nils afterward, and they both concluded that he would have seen Mark's bike if it had been there then. He has communicated this information to the coroner's office and other officials.

Unfortunately, we still don't know for sure how Mark was attacked. Although the papers reported that the bicycle chain had "broken", Nils (personal communication 1/23/04) said that the chain was intact when he found Mark's bike, with the chain simply hanging off the sprockets.

Thus it is possible that Mark's chain came off the sprockets, and he was bending down to put it back on when he was attacked. It certainly is plausible that he was attacked when he was in this position, and not easily able to defend himself after the initial lion attack.

Alternatively, the lion could have jumped Mark in the same way Anne was jumped, with the chain coming off the sprockets during the ensuing melee.

Nils Magnuson provides information that makes the second scenario more likely:

The bike was standing upright, just to the right of the trail, facing slightly at an angle down the slope. On the down slope, the dirt was disrupted in two areas as if someone had taken two steps down. About 5 yards down was thick cactus. If you were standing, looking at the bike, very tall, thick bushes lined your backside.

I could speculate many different attack scenarios. The only thing I found wrong with the bike was that the chain was off. Most people simply put the chain back on and spin the cranks once, not even setting the bike off to the side of the trail. As a matter of fact, where the bike was it would be hard to put the chain back on. One could speculate that maybe the bike was lying across the trail and that someone earlier had set the bike on the side of the trail. In any case, the spot where the bike was wasn't a good place to stop. It's really narrow. I would have gone either way on the trail, about 5 yards, before doing anything to my bike.

The autopsy report might be able to distinguish between these two possibilities, but nothing has been released from the autopsy report that sheds any light on this.

A very puzzling thing about this incident is the multiple attacks. No scenario seems compelling:

Speculations that the local mountain lion population was disturbed by the influx of outsiders from the San Diego County burn areas are unfounded. It is extremely unlikely that any mountain lions from the main burn areas in San Diego County migrated to Orange County, due to the following:

It is possible that the cougar density in Orange County was slightly increased after the Camp Pendleton fire, since that location is "only" 20-25 miles away. However, that fire burned only 6,892 acres, an utterly negligible amount compared to the 256,000 acres contained in an area 20 miles on a side.

Mountain lions, like any predator, do not attack prey that can harm them for fun. Attacking any animal is risky business, and predators attack only the minimum number of the easiest targets they can find, due to the risk of injury to themselves. After all, if a predator becomes disabled for hunting for any period of time, they will starve to death.

Of course, some animals do play with their victims, or even attack creatures that cannot harm them for fun. Domestic cats are the poster animals for such attacks. But I seriously doubt that most mountain lions are going to attack a deer or human for fun on a general basis, although one can never rule out such an attack by an unusual individual.

I thank an anonymous reader with good insights who helped me speculate on the causes of this multiple attack.

The speculation that Mark had a heart attack makes everything falls into place: the cougar attacked only a single human, to protect its food cache, and there is nothing unusual about the second attack anymore.

26 June. 27-year-old Shannon Parker of Santa Monica, California, was attacked by a 2-year-old male cougar at about 6:15 p.m. near the Tulare County mountain community of Johnsondale, California, about 15 to 20 miles north of Kernville. Shannon lost her right eye and suffered injuries to her other eye and deep lacerations to her right thigh.

Shannon was hiking with her boyfriend, 28-year-old Mathias Maciejewski of Los Angeles, and two other friends, Jason Quirino, 30, and Ben Aaron Marsh, 15, both of Los Angeles, on a trail near the Johnsondale Bridge, which crosses the north fork of the Kern River. The trail follows a steep, rocky area up the west side of the river. Shannon left the group to walk back toward the parking area. She was attacked at a narrow area in the trail by a perilous 100 foot precipice.

When she began to scream, the others rushed to her assistance. "They heard her scream, 'Get it off me. Get it off me,'" said Brian Naslund, acting lieutenant for Kern County with the DFG. Maciejewski used a knife to stab the mountain lion twice in the shoulder, but it had little effect, Naslund said. Quirino or Marsh went to get help while Maciejewski and the remaining hiker threw rocks at the animal. "They hit it in the head a couple of times with the rocks, it let her go," Naslund said.

The hiker who went to get help found a person in the parking area who rushed toward Johnsondale, flagging down a Forest Service ranger, said Margie Clack, a spokeswoman for Sequoia National Forest. She said Parker was fortunate help came so fast: "There's no cell phone service in that area. Sometimes we can't even get through on the Forest Service radios." There are cabins in Johnsondale used as weekend homes, but there are almost no permanent residents, stores or businesses in the area. "It's surrounded by national forest land," Clack said.

Parker was taken by ambulance that Saturday night to an airport near Lake Isabella in northeastern Kern County, where a helicopter was waiting to fly her to Kern Medical Center in Bakersfield. Doctors there stabilized her condition before sending her on to UCLA Medical Center. By the following Tuesday her condition was stable after treatment and reconstructive surgery.

The mountain lion left a trail of blood from the stabbings that had failed to discourage the attack on Shannon. From the bloody trail, Fish and Game officials and U.S. Forest Service rangers tracked the mountain lion and found him in the area several hours after the attack. "It appeared that it was still dazed from being hit in the head with rocks," Naslund said. The authorities shot and killed the lion because it was deemed a threat to public safety. The cougar's body was taken to a DFG lab near Sacramento where it tested negative for rabies but was found to weigh only 58 pounds, severely underweight for a 2- year-old which should normally weigh about 80 to 100 pounds.

Apparently not believing that humans may simply be fair game for hungry cougars, Martarano said it's unclear what prompted the mountain lion to attack. He noted that the area where the attack happened was devastated in July 2002 by the McNally wildfire, which burned more than 150,000 acres in the Sequoia and Inyo national forests and the Giant Sequoia National Monument. Although the fire greatly reduced the amount of vegetation in the steep, rocky terrain near the river where the attack took place, new growth has sprouted and attracted deer and other animals back to the burned areas, said spokeswoman Clack.

Sources: (The Fresno Bee; Tim Bragg; Hiker loses eye to big cat in Sierra Mountain lion is later killed in Tulare County; 06/28/2004) (SignOnSanDiego.com, the San Diego Union-Tribune; *Mountain lion that attacked hiker was undernourished; By Greg Risling, Associated Press; 06/28/2004)

2005-2006

No reported attacks.

2007

24 January. Hiking in Prairie Creek Redwoods State Park sometime before 3:00 p.m. in Humbolt County 50 miles north of Eureka in Orick, California, 70-year- old Jim Hamm was attacked by a cougar, apparently as it crept up from behind. The Fortuna, California, man was accompanied by his 65-year-old wife Nell. Both were reported as under 5'6".

According to supervising Ranger Maury Morningstar, "The wife said she didn't see the lion until she heard her husband, and when she turned around, the lion was attacking her husband."

Nell Hamm said she first saw the lion when it had her husband's head in its jaws. The lion pounced on Jim Hamm near the end of a 10-mile hike. He was trailing his wife when the big cat attacked, pinning him face down on the trail. He didn't scream, Nell said. "It was a different, horrible plea for help, and I turned around, and by then the cat had wrestled Jim to the ground."

Nell Hamm did all the right things. She approached and screamed at the lion. Then she grabbed a 4-inch-wide log and began beating it on its back. "It wouldn't let go, no matter how hard I hit it," she said.

While Jim was trying to tear at the face of the cat, Nell says, "Jim was talking to me all through this, and he said, 'I've got a pen in my pocket. Get the pen and jab him in the eye.'" "So I got the pen and tried to put it in his eye, but it didn't want to go in as easy as I thought it would." When the pen bent and became useless, Nell Hamm went back to using the log. "That lion never flinched," she said. "I just knew it was going to kill him."

Finally, Nell slammed the log butt-end into the cat's snout. The lion had ignored her until then. At last, she had its attention. With blood on it's snout from her blow, the lion let go, stepped back, an stood glaring at her with its ears pinned back. "I thought he was going to attack me," she said. She continued to scream, waving the log, and then, thankfully, the cat slipped into the ferns and disappeared.

Terrified that it might come back, Hamm told her husband that he had to get up and try to walk to the Newton B. Drury Parkway, parallel to U.S. Highway 101, to find help. He was losing blood quickly. "Somehow we made it out of there," she said.

About a quarter-mile away, they came upon an inmate work crew with the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection. The Eureka Reporter newspaper reported this crew found the man bleeding around 4 p.m. The four men went for help. As a result, the California Department of Forestry dispatched an ambulance from Arcata, which took the couple to the Mad River Community Hospital. State Park employees also responded. Jim Hamm underwent surgery for serious lacerations to his head, legs, arms, and hands.

The Eureka paper said the park is a popular recreational area and offers hiking, nature study, wildlife viewing, beach combing, and picnicking. In the past three years mountain lion sightings have increased on the nearby Humboldt State University campus. In early November, a young male mountain lion weighing approximately 80 pounds was captured and tranquilized on campus.

The Hamms are healthy, athletic people. They play sports, scuba dive and run. Since they moved to Fortuna from Camarillo two years ago, they have hiked the trails in Humboldt County, clocking 6 to 12 miles, two to three times a week. Neither of them is large; both are under 5 feet 6 inches. But they had talked about what to do in case of a mountain lion attack: Scream, look big, fight back. "We fought harder than we ever have to save his life, and we fought together," she said. Both plan to celebrate their 50th wedding anniversary next month (February, 2007).

Despite their long history of hiking, it was too early for her to say if they'd ever venture out again. "It's not like Jim and I are saying, 'Don't go in the forest,' " she said. "Go in the forest like you'd go scuba diving in the ocean. Respect where you are."

Nell Hamm especially warned people never to hike in the backcountry alone. Park rangers told the couple if Jim Hamm had been alone, he probably would not have survived. Her husband still faces a struggle. Cat bites and scratches can lead to serious infections, and doctors are giving him intravenous antibiotics. They've also started a series of rabies shots. The Hamms are thankful to the emergency personnel, rangers, wardens, doctors and nurses who helped them through the ordeal.

Subsequent to this attack two mountain lions were killed near the trail in the area. One lion was shot with a rifle that night, the other was killed the next morning, said Fish and Game Warden Rick Banko. Their carcasses were flown to a state forensics lab in Rancho Cordova to determine if either animal mauled the man, he said. Based on their weight of between 70 and 100 pounds, officials think the lions were relatively young.

Sources: (NBC11.com/San Jose, San Francisco, Oakland; Wife Saves Husband From Mountain Lion; 01/25/2007) (Yahoo! News; Mountain lion attacks hiker in Calif.; Lisa Leff, Associated Press Writer; Thu Jan 25, 11:03 PM ET) (CNN.com; Woman, 65, saves husband from mountain lion; AP; January 25, 2007) (The Eureka Reporter; Man Attacked By Mountain Lion; by Christine Bensen-Messinger; 1/25/2007) (The Times-Standard; 'I knew it was going to kill him'; John Driscoll/The Times-Standard; 01/26/2007)


Don't let turtle know I have him on bozo or I'll put you on bozo too!

farmfriend  posted on  2008-05-23   17:43:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: farmfriend (#5)

Interesting data, the number of attacks is increasing. Not a lot but if you're the target it only takes one. Of course the envirowhackos and eugenicists probably think this is just fine. After all it is the Kitty's natural home and we are awful awful humans who are intruding where we don't belong - or some other such nonsense.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-05-23   23:04:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#6)

Agreed!


Don't let turtle know I have him on bozo or I'll put you on bozo too!

farmfriend  posted on  2008-05-23   23:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Kamala, farmfriend, Original_Intent, all (#0) (Edited)

Sounds like the WILDLANDS PROJECT:

The REWILDING Project | Introduction

Mountain lions hold more heritage to this land than any other predator in North America.”

— Spirit of the Rockies: The Mountain Lions of Jackson Hole

I suppose if I hadn't had a cougar across the road screaming like a banshee for nearly 15 minutes (a female calling to a male for mating purposes), a few nights later in a tree in my front yard (November, '03) and then in my back yard this past snow-laden spring, coming within 30 feet of the house, this section on REWILDING would not have been created; and I see that it is impossible to discuss the Rewilding Project without linking it to its source (U.N.) and the bigger picture. (link coming soon)

Please do read about the bigger picture for a deeper understanding and confirmation consisting of quotes from UN reports -- among other sources. Without that, some of the assertions made here could easily be tossed aside by an individual who has bought in to the media mind control and who may have attended some of the local 'community' meetings where the tried and true method of 'consensus building' has skewed understanding of the true nature of the plan.

The Rewilding Project is brought to us from the United Nations. A relevant tentacle of Agenda 21, the Rewilding Project is designed to restore a major portion of the planet to its 'original' state before man came along and messed it all up; however, it could not be happening if it were not being implemented by state and local legislation. State legislation creates the agencies that mirror federal agencies which were created to implement the schemes emanating from the UN; those Federal agencies would include Forestry and Fish and Wildlife.

As far as we can gather, the agency most responsible for the importation of carnivores into our states (and back yards) is the state Game Commission. Here in Pennsylvania, in the face of hundreds of reported sightings, the Game Commission flatly denies its existence, saying "there is no scientific evidence that cougars have 'returned' to Pennsylvania". The mind-controlled game wardens, without embarrassment or shame either out-right lie, or are hired for their low IQ, so they're easily duped.

Pathetically, these people have families, friends and other loved ones who may one day soon become a meal for these non-existent predators, and haven't a clue that they are pawns in a deadly game emanating from the United Nations.

While researching the Rewilding Project, the Pennsylvania Wildlands Recovery Project (PWRP) came up in an article. The planners make no bones about their plans, however they adamantly deny the carnivores are re-introduced into areas where it is claimed they haven't lived for the past hundred years. So, we're to believe the gray wolves and the mountain lions got together in a meeting and decided to head back to Pennsylvania. . . and your state too.

At the PWRP website it was explained that the ultimate goal is to establish multi-state/multi-national Wildland Corridors beginning with the State Parks except they'll no longer be called 'State Parks'; they'll be called State Wildlands. Each State Park will connect by wooded corridors to other state and national parks. The wildlands will prohibit any human habitat and their corridors will severely limit human habitation. Any private property in the way will be 'taken' by eminent domain, although the term used is "willing sellers".

That's another subject. Suffice to say that when they want your property you WILL sell and at a price they set. Otherwise, they'll remove you forcefully. Private land is being taken all over America by local, state and federal governments under 'eminent domain'. Allegedly there must be a public need for invoking eminent domain; however, amazingly and brazenly the confiscated property is often turned over to private developers for their commercial use for huge profits. In the case of Wildlands and their Corridors, it will be dedicated exclusively to plants, insects, bees, birds, fish, reptiles, amphibians and animals. Carnivores figure heavily in their plan. ...."

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/rewilding/intro.html

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/rewilding/stepbystep.html

Another horse attacked by cougar in Michigan

".... Keep an eye out for the big cats (Note: Brockway does a job seeking to make it appear that, if there are cougars in New York State, they're just "surviving" -- never mentioning that they are multiplying and thriving because they have been "helped along" by those involved in implementing The Wildlands Project. Whether openly or surreptitiously, cougars are showing up in almost every state in America. Endangered? That status should apply to the "prey species" that cougars eat, which includes people's pets, and eventually, their children and even adults. Joggers and bicyclists in Colorado and California have already proven that cougars "exist" and do attack and kill people. Downplay it as he does, it's still a fact, and so is The Wildlands Project.) ....." www.propertyrightsresearc...se_attacked_by_cougar.htm

Nature: People and Predation by Rex Dalton ... a high willingness to accept mountain lions on the urban fringe - even if they kill people." As the Wildlands Project unfolds, cougars, wolves, bears, ... www.klamathbucketbrigade....pleandPredation062005.htm

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It's happening in Virginia too. Each of my daughters has seen them, at two different times. I read one had been killed by a car in West Virginia. I just found a cougar sighting website for our area, and found that they have been sighted in Fairfax which is heavily populated and just a few miles from DC. A couple of people reported seeing even black cougars in Virginia. Here's a report from the same county my daughters had their sightings:

Excerpt:

Mountain lions in Virginia? February 28, 2007 — Ralph Maughan

The cougar has not been confirmed in Virginia since 1882, but there are increasing signs they have returned to the state. Motion-sensitive infrared cameras have been deployed near Appalachian Trail to try to determine whether cougars are back......

"mike Says: November 12, 2007 at 2:21 pm

They’re out there - I’m still amazed at the VDGIF not publicly admitting that they’re back in the state. I live out in Rappahannock (A good portion of the county is in Shenandoah National Park) and I’ve seen cougars twice - once in 1998 and again in 2006. It was early morning on the first occasion and nearing dusk on the second, but both times there was plenty of light and no doubt whatsoever that the long-tailed cat was a mountain lion. Pretty exciting. I have chickens, belgian mules (not worried about them) and a herd of miniature donkeys - but I’m far more concerned about marauding bears than a mountain lion. There’s just too few of them. Bears on the other hand, are a dime a dozen and we see them every year. I’m just waiting for ANY government agency to admit there are mountain lions in the state before someone shoots one and says Ooops - I didn’t know they were endagered"

http://wolves.wordpress.com/2007...untain-lions-in-virginia/

The local Environmental League, which works hard to put all private land into easements, feigns ignorance:

http://www.rlep.org/livinggreen/mountainlion.html

They said they travel along riparian buffers, which is a hot pursuit by the environmentalists in that county now. It was from the direction of a river one of my daughters saw the couger one evening leaping up a hill less than 50 feet in front of her. They're beautiful, but that's a little too close for comfort. My daughter said they also are known to perch in trees from whence they pounce on their prey. My other daughter saw her cougar running along the side of a back road at night. It ran so fast she almost didn't see it. . In the next county over from Rappahannock, the Smithsonian [which is not quite the benevolent entity we have been led to believe] has a Conservation Research Center in what used [?] to be a prisoner of war camp, with a rail to DC....[the watchtowers appear to have been renovated recently, according to some reports]:

"...Staff are involved in groundbreaking research pertaining to the conservation of endangered species and ecosystems locally, nationally, and around the world. The objective of our research programs is to develop long-term, collaborative conservation initiatives that utilize the diverse array of scientific, cultural, and political tools to understand and protect species and their ecosystems.

Scientific staff profiles

The mission of the Conservation and Research Center Program is the conservation of biodiversity through scientific research, professional training, and environmental education.

Our scientists work to achieve three primary goals:

* Saving wildlife. Scientists use the most current technologies to contribute to the scientific basis for conservation and to global efforts to preserve many threatened and endangered species.

* Saving habitat. Scientists use field ecology and geographical information systems (GIS), in addition to other disciplines and techniques, to understand the habitats that support endangered species. Long-term ecological studies, assessment and monitoring of biodiversity and training programs take place around the world in a variety of ecosystems and habitats.

* Restoring species to the wild. Scientists seek to restore wildlife populations to their natural habitats. Their efforts have been successful for many species, including North America’s own black-footed ferret, as well as several other exotic species...."

nationalzoo.si.edu/ConservationAndScience/CRC/

My first thought was that they were released from there.

It's not about habitat, or conserving species. It's about the national debt, and the fact we and all the property in this country are the collateral. It's all part of the same demonic plot against America.

from cuttingedge.org:

FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENTS IMPLEMENTING THE DRACONIAN PLAN TO FORCE PEOPLE TO LIVE ONLY IN CERTAIN AREAS USING A FALSE "CRISIS" OF ENVIRONMENTAL POLLUTION AS THE CATALYST

Subtitle: Using the most flowery language possible, and invoking the specter of environmental disaster, the U.S. House has overwhelmingly passed a bill setting aside the huge amount of $45 BILLION [in 2000] to buy up land. Soon, they will be out of "open" land, coming for yours and mine! That is the New World Order Plan......

"......Unless otherwise noted, this material is taken from "Special Report: The Wildland Project Unleashes Its WAR ON MANKIND", by Marilyn Brannan, Associate Editor, 'Monetary & Economic Review'. [For anyone who would like more complete information, or further information, please either write to: FAMC, 3500 JFK Parkway, Fort Collins, CO 80525, or call them at 1-800-336-7000.]

What the President did not tell you is that these areas to be set aside in New World Order planning will be swept of all human living and/or development, as part of the United Nations Biodiversity Protection program, created in 1972. This plan literally conceives of setting aside huge areas of the world where no humans can live -- will be allowed to live -- or work, or play. While this plan is global and is being instituted globally, we will limit our study of it to the United States. [The entire plan is published in a report entitled, "Our Global Neighborhood: The Report of the Commission On Global Governance", Oxford University Press, ISBN 0-19-827997-3, 410 pages long. You can order from any bookstore using the ISBN Number, above.]

This plan in America is called the "Rewilding" of America. This term means to re-wild this continent. In other words, they plan to sweep aside all evidences of human endeavor, i.e., homes, businesses, structures, entire cities, allowing the land to go back to its natural state, before the wicked White Man took the land from the Native Americans (Indians). Using Presidential Directive, normally exercised through various Federal Government agencies, this "rewilding" project will be accomplished by declaring huge tracts of land completely off limits to humans. These tracts of land would be called 'reserves'. Reserves would "include wilderness areas and national parks while inner buffer zones would permit no agriculture, no more than 0.5 miles of road per square mile of land, primitive camping, and only light selection harvesting of forests. The June 25, 1993, issue of Science magazine reports that the plan calls for 23.4% of the land to be put into wilderness (no human use) and 26.2% into corridors and human buffer zones (very limited use by humans)." [Op. Cit., Brannan, p. 2.]

This is 50% of America!!! If we could show you the map, where these off-limits zones are designated, your mind will be blown by the unbelievability of it all!! You will be able to see if your area is one of those who are to swept clean of human activity, and you will be able to see where you might wind up being relocated. As I am looking at the map, I see that many entire states are set aside, to prevent any human activity at all. These "re-wilding" blocs are as follows:

* Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Utah, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona

* Wisconsin, Michigan

* Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York

* Portions of Virginia, West Virginia, the Carolinas, Tennessee, Georgia following major river systems

* Portions of Florida

Remember, 50% of the United States is going to be set off limits to us nasty humans!!!!

We used some terms in the above quote that need to be defined.

* 'Wilderness area' is defined as the habitat of plants and animals. All human activity is to be forbidden.

* 'Buffer Zones' are those areas surrounding the wilderness areas. Limited and strictly controlled, only access is to be permitted by humans. No organized activity, such as work, or homes, or cities, will be allowed. Knowing how dictatorial government works, any humans allowed to be in these Buffer Zones will probably have to be given special permits. And, of course, paramilitary forces will undoubtedly have to be patrolling these zones, enforcing the limited human access.

* 'Cooperation Zones' are the only zones where humans will be allowed to live, and presumably, work......"

www.cuttingedge.org/NEWS/n1368.cfm

and since the HAARP-generated hurrican season starts tomorrow, with scientists taking bets on how close their predictions to devastating hurricanes will be, see this too:

MAJOR DISCOVERY! MAPS OF DEADLY STORMS OF PAST YEARS CONFORMS GREATLY WITH THE U.N. MAP OF "RESERVE AND CORRIDOR SYSTEM TO PROTECT BIODIVERSITY"!

Sustainable Development Series = Destruction of Industrial Civilization -- Part 3

Subtitle: When you see that the pattern of past deadly storms is consistent with the U.N. Map referenced above, your eyes should be opened to the fact that our weather may be controlled and utilized to create the social engineering so desired by the Illuminati....."

www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1695.cfm

U.S.A. MAP DEPICTING BIODIVERSITY RESERVE AND CORRIDOR PLAN

$4 - $12 a gallon for gasoline fits into the plan as well. As Al Gore wrote from his big house with all light indoors and out blazing, and SUV's in the driveway, there has to be a wrenching transformation of society, and that the combustion engine was the greatest threat to mankind.

"AL GORE

JULY 2000

WHY THE GAS PRICES ARE UP

In an exclusive article by Charles Smith in the May 9, 2000 edition of WorldNetDaily.com, it was disclosed that the oil ministers from the OPEC nations quietly told national security advisors on Capitol Hill that the oil production cutbacks -- are being implemented at the request of the Clinton administration on behalf of Russia, Indonesia, Mexico and Iran.

Russia, Mexico and Indonesia are directing their increased oil profits to pay off overdue loans from Western banks while many of the other Middle Eastern nations are using the increased profits to buy weapons. "Iran is also trading oil to China in exchange for missile technology," stated the national security advisor.

The Clinton administration energy policy is to deliberately discourage domestic oil production. As the prices start to rise enough to encourage domestic production, the OPEC nations deliberately flood the market to scare capital away from new production.

According to Vice President Al Gore, the recent hike in gas prices is not due to a shortage of oil, but rather to the Clinton administration's deliberate move to encourage an oil price increase.

"I think the reason is because we more or less asked the organization of petroleum producing countries to raise oil prices in helping Russia develop its economy," stated Al Gore on March 1 in response to a question about rising gas prices.

On May 19, 2000 RNC Chairman, Jim Nicholson, disclosed that Gore's personal financial disclosure form shows that he may inherit up to $1 million in Occidental Petroleum stocks from his mother -- which she inherited from Al Gore, Sr. High petroleum prices couldn't hurt the value, but Nicholson does bring out the fact that Gore does not want to allow young Americans to invest part of their Social Security payments in the stock market. (Maybe its only advisable for people who are educated in expensive private schools, the rest of the unwashed public is too stupid to make the correct decision. . .) ...."

http://www.ioscorepublicans.org/arcgore.htm

From an apologist for George W. Bush:

"...Which brings us back to Al Gore. You don’t have to read between the lines to figure out his view of what smart people can accomplish if they’re given the power they deserve. It’s spelled out pretty clearly in his 1992 tome Earth in the Balance, conveniently reissued this year by Houghton Mifflin.

The first thing Gore wants you to know is that we are experiencing a "crisis." The word appears on just about every page of the book, sometimes more than once. There’s the "global environmental crisis," "the growing crisis," and (my personal favorite) "this ungodly crisis."

Gore has never heard of an environmental threat that wasn’t as bad as claimed or that didn’t need to be dealt with immediately. He dismisses skeptics as corporate collaborators, addicts in denial, and Neville Chamberlains.

"The time for delay is over," he writes. "A choice to ‘do nothing’ in response to the mounting evidence is actually a choice to continue and even accelerate the reckless environmental destruction that is creating the catastrophe at hand."

No one would accuse Gore of wanting to do nothing. He is intent on "reinventing and finally healing the relationship between civilization and the earth."

In case you thought that would be easy, Gore stresses that we must "make the effort to save the global environment the central organizing principle of our civilization....Minor shifts in policy, marginal adjustments in ongoing programs, moderate improvements in laws and regulations, rhetoric offered in lieu of genuine change--these are all forms of appeasement, designed to satisfy the public’s desire to believe that sacrifice, struggle, and a wrenching transformation of society will not be necessary."

Gore is a little hazy on exactly what this "wrenching transformation" will entail, but some of his preferences are clear. He wants us to ****stop driving cars, stop buying things we don’t really need, stop throwing so much stuff away, stop living in suburbs, and stop having so many children.

Gore also calls for "a truly global, comprehensive, and strategic approach to the energy problem" (which should satisfy the Republicans who’ve been complaining that the Clinton administration has no energy policy). And he suggests that new technologies should not be introduced until all their "pros and cons" have been carefully weighed.

Had Gore been in charge, for instance, automobiles would never have been allowed on the market, since they pose "a mortal threat to the security of every nation." But he’s hopeful that "a coordinated global program" could "accomplish the strategic goal of completely eliminating the internal combustion engine over, say, a twenty-five-year period."

If this is the sort of thing smart people come up with, I prefer a president who’s not too bright."

http://www.reason.com/news/show/35860.html

Al Gore wanted $3.50 per gallon gas, so which president did we get?

"The only hope of the Earth is to withdraw huge areas as inviolate natural sanctuaries from the depredations of modern industry and technology. Move out the people and cars. Reclaim the roads and the plowed lands."

--Dave Foreman, Confessions of an Eco-Warrior

Move out the people and cars? ....as they continue to flood the country with illegal immigrants.

Last, but not least, this whole thing is religious and anti-Christ. The hidden hand behind it all seeks to return the earth to Eden with Lucifer as King.

" Al Gore’s Vision of Global Salvation

Quotations from his 1992 best-seller:

Earth in the Balance

by Berit Kjos, 1999

Skip down to Gore's promotion of earth-centered religion | Buddhism | Socialist control

See also Brainwashing in America....."

http://crossroad.to/text/articles/Gore7-99.html

See also:

4um: Feds Want More Critical Habitat for Lynx The Wildlands Project and UN Convention on Biological Diversity http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=74743&Disp=1

Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

The existence of self-renewing oil fields shatters the peak oil myth. ...In direct conflict with the 'Peak Oil' myth, the underreamer in ... Hey presto, you have a new oil well, and it only cost one or two million dollars ... http://vialls.com/wecontrolamerica/peakoil.html

I just saw a headline that Congress approved $165 Billion for the war in Iraq. At 1 or 2 million dollars per well, how many existing US oil wells could America finance with that? I also saw a headline that the FBI doesn't have enough staff to protect America from another "terrorist" attack. They are asking for VOLUNTEERS in the war against "al-Qaeda" at home!

Why does oil have to be so high in 2008, crippling the deliberately destroyed economy even further? [rhetorical question.] Because the HIDDEN HAND in London, Washington, New York, and Israel need it for ISRAEL, and to consolidate their hold on their GLOBAL PLANTATION.

http://www.nogw.com/warforisrael.html

Sorry for the long post, but I did a search on the Wildlands Project and freedom4um, and it seems to be under the radar. Just connecting the dots.

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Isa 14:12 ¶ How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Isa 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, [and] consider thee, [saying, Is] this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

Isa 14:17 [That] made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; [that] opened not the house of his prisoners?

Isa 14:18 All the kings of the nations, [even] all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

Isa 14:19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, [and as] the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

Isa 14:20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, [and] slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

Isa 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities......

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa014.html#17

The Harold Wallace Rosenthal Interview 1976 www.antichristconspiracy.com. ...... "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." ... www.antichristconspiracy.com/HTML%20Pages/Harold_Wallace_Rosenthal_Interview_1976.htm

Synagogue of Satan Harold Wallace Rosenthal, "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." That is the astounding admission made by Harold Wallace Rosenthal, ... www.antichristconspiracy.com/synagogue_of_satan.htm

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"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-05-24   9:07:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#8) (Edited)

The Banker's Manifesto and Sustainable Development

Think YOU and YOUR PROPERTY are safe?

READ THIS.

"Capital must protect itself in every way, through combination and through legislation. Debts must be collected and loans and mortgages foreclosed as soon as possible. When through a process of law the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and more easily governed by the strong arm of the law, applied by the central power of wealth, under control of leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capital to govern the world. By dividing the people we can get them to expand their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as teachers of the common herd. Thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves what has been generally planned and successfully accomplished."

((((((The above was printed from the "Banker's Manifest", for the private circulation among leading bankers only, taken from the "Civil Servants' Year Book, "The Organizer" of January, 1934.)))))) The Banker's Manifesto ties in with U.S. Senate Document No. 43, 73rd Congress, 1st Session (1934), to wit:

"The ultimate ownership of all property is in the State; individual so-called "ownership" is only by virtue of Government, i.e., law, amounting to mere "user" and use must be in acceptance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State."

Remember, it's not a question of "if" the economy will collapse, but "when". And if they can't "steal" your property with the above described scheme, they will take it via sequestration by "conservation easements" and expropriate it to international organizations, corporations and associations at "the extinction of the State" through "concessional" lending. That is what the ESA (Endangered Species Act of 1973), the UNEP (United Nations Environment Programme), UNDP (United Nations Development Programme), and the treaty entitled the "Convention On Biological Diversity" and the benign sounding phrase, "Sustainable Development" are all about. And this includes Governor Locke's "Washington Wild Salmonid Restoration" plans.

Already we are witnessing the strings working the puppets , like King County Executive Sims talking about raising building permit fees by five percent to "save the salmon." There is an old maxim of law: "deceivers deal in generalities". We are only seeing the "tip" of the iceberg.

The "plan" is to control all resources, human and natural. The control is not by elected public officials, but by a self-appointed oligarchy. This is born out by reading the details of Article 21 and 39 of the "Convention On Biological Diversity." This treaty declares there are no reservation of rights. Article 21 mandates that three international organizations, the UNEP, UNDP and the World Bank, will direct and control "the policy, strategy, programme priorities and eligibility criteria relating to access to and utilization of resources" in each member country.

Under the Uruguay Round Trade Agreements signed into law by the 103rd Congress, which are amendments of the GATT treaty (General Agreement On Trade And Tariffs), the WTO (World Trade Organization) was created. These agreements dictate policy and contain clauses that allow various other international organizations to regulate and control the member Nations' resources and production. One of these organizations is IUCN (International Union For Conservation Of Nature) which is responsible for implementing the international policy and plans and agendas on a national, regional and local level. King County Executive Sims is reacting to that policy now. And so is Governor Locke.

Question: Where is there any "authority" under the Constitution for the United States of America (Article VI) for these activities? There isn't, primarily because the UN and its agents are foreign entities which are illegally in the country in the first instance. Additionally, the UN Charter, its amendments and other interacting agreements are in contravention of the Constitution.

The whole story is a long and sordid affair. The foregoing gives you a few basic pieces of the larger puzzle. We have a Trojan horse within our gates. It must be STOPPED AND KILLED . . . BEFORE IT KILLS US.

Permission to repost granted with full disclosure/credits. -/s/ John R. Prukop

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--Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. (2 Cranch) 137 (1803)

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"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-05-24   9:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#9)

cross-reference:

Weather warfare ~ Beware the US military’s experiments with climatic warfare

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...gi?ArtNum=81257&Disp=1#C1 - #2.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-05-30   11:19:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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