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Title: America Has No Duty to Destroy Islam
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The Fountain of Truth
URL Source: http://www.geocities.com/fountoftruth/destroy.html
Published: May 24, 2008
Author: Doug Newman
Post Date: 2008-05-24 12:47:07 by snoopdougg
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Views: 8700
Comments: 25
A few months ago, an old friend with whom I grew up somewhere in the swamps of Jersey sent me an e-mail that went something like this: A guy walked into a bar and saw GW Bush. He asked, “Mr. President, what are you doing?” Bush responded, “I am planning World War III. I am going to kill 140 million Muslims and a hot babe in a bikini.” The man asked, “Why would you kill a hot babe in a bikini?” Bush responded, “See? I told you! No one gives a rip about 140 million dead Muslims!” I was reminded of this the other day when I saw this video of Rod Parsley, a megachurch pastor and neocon sock puppet in Columbus, Ohio. The most warmongering bloodthirsty people in American society are megachurch Christians, many of whom just love demagoguery like Parsley’s. Consider some of his proclamations. “Islam is an anti-Christ religion that intends through violence to conquer the world.” Yes, Islam is an anti-Christ religion, but no it is not intent on world domination. It has been centuries since a Muslim country conquered a non-Muslim country. For a refutation of many of the lies that terror warriors love to tell, look at this recent piece of dazzling brilliance and Shakespearean eloquence. “America was founded in part with the intention of seeing this false religion destroyed.” No it was not! This “intention” is located nowhere in any of our Founding documents. Yes, we fought the Barbary Wars – “…to the shores of Tripoli” – starting in 1801. However, these were not “wars on piracy” or “wars on Islam.” Rather, they were limited engagements against specific pirates who were demanding tribute from American merchant ships. “America has historically understood herself to be a bastion against Islam in the world.” Wrong again! Consider these timeless words from Thomas Jefferson’s first Inaugural: “Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations – entangling alliances with none.” If a country comes here to fight a war, then, dadgummit, let’s fight a war. If a foreign country or a certain group of foreigners does more limited harm to us or our people, let Congress issue a Letter of Marque and Reprisal, i.e. a warrant to go after the specific perps. Otherwise, let’s trade, travel and have diplomacy. But let us not engage in this insane business of perpetual war, pre-emptive war, nation-building and destroying other cultures and religions. Rod Parsley and other Christian superhawks need to be reminded that the Bible says that God decides how people and nations ought to live – Acts 17:26. You don’t have to like how they live. You just need to realize that God is The Decider, if you will. We need not go to war to ensure a steady supply of oil anymore than we need to torch the local grocery store in order to buy food. America has vast quantities of oil in places like North Dakota and off the north coast of Alaska that we are just not touching right now. And don’t whine about Democrats blocking drilling at ANWR. For four years, we had a Republican president, house and senate who could have authorized drilling there in a matter of days. But, no-o-o-o-o-o, they didn't do it. We can have far greater influence through trade and economics than we can through endless war. Let us learn a lesson from Japan. Someone – I wish I knew who – pointed out a year or so ago that Japan accomplished far more with Toyota and Panasonic than it did with Pearl Harbor. The end of this video features Parsley proclaiming: “We were built for the battle. We were created for the conflict. We get off on warfare.” No Reverend P., you get off on promoting warfare from your pulpit and hobnobbing with politicians. Neither you, nor most of the politicians, pundits and preachers who so fervently promote this War on Terror have ever done a day in the military, much less experienced warfare. (1) Real warfare is experienced by kids from Bedford-Stuyvesant and from Colorado’s eastern prairie whose names and stories you will never know. Say what you will about Barack Obama’s now ex-pastor Jeremiah Wright, but you have to give him this: he served two years in the Marine Corps and four yours as a Navy hospital corpsman. (2) How far we have fallen from Jesus’ Great Commission in Matthew 28:18-20: “And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.” Far too many megachurch pastors have turned the Prince of Peace into the prince of war. And He is not happy about how His name is being used. One day, these pastors are going to have some splainin' to do. (1) Yes, John McCain is an Annapolis grad -- barely -- and a career Navy pilot and, yes, he did five years in the Hanoi Hilton. This military resume puts him in a minority among politicians. Let me also say that it has dumbfounded me for years how someone who suffered so horribly at the hands of Communists can have such enthusiasm for the total state. (2) To McCain's credit, he has recently rejected the endorsements of both John Hagee and Rod Parsley. After all the hullabaloo over Obama's pastor and McCain's pastor supporters, I cannot help wondering: when will the dam burst over Hillary's pastor, whoever that may be? If you would like to post this, please e-mail me and include this URL.
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#1. To: snoopdougg (#0)
Thanks for the most excellent essays today, Doug.
These assclowns are infinitely more dangerous than islam. I cannot believe Parlsley has the gall to call islam a antichrist religion. Total undiluted hypocrisy. Ont think I notice about these scumbags: They always preface their lies with " I am going to stagger you with", or some such thing, like they are going to give out a Big Secret Truth. I'll post it.
excellent commentary, but since War Is the Health of the STATE, there is no incentive for [our] globalist leaders to stop it.
Did Butler mean to say winning wars is the health of the state? I understand that the banksters win either way, but it's tough for me to see how getting our asses handed to us in the ME is all that healthy for us, our economy, or anything else except for a few chosen companies.
Any Christian who advocates or supports aggressive or preemptive war or any of the shit currently going on or being planned is most definitely not going to be "saved" no matter how much they believe in Jesus Christ.
The most warmongering bloodthirsty people in American society are megachurch Christians, many of whom just love demagoguery like Parsley’s. Consider some of his proclamations. We've got LeSea (?Lester Summerall) Broadcasting here in Indiana, damned if I know how they get any followers.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
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And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
How casn I apply for coon status, bitchj?
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
My Mom wants you to call her.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dak, you have mad skills.
SUNBEAMS, AIN'T NEVER MADE LIKE ME...
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Thanks for keeping it SECRET. Oh, sorry, mad scales entirely different. Get on the bus, my homey!
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
It's funny you mentioned a Sunbeam. I thought of buying one before I settled on my TR-6.
Can't walk you out with mountain dew model chick this evening, Tull, I'm sorry.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Good posting, thanks. Not only are we not duty bound to try to destroy Islam, that sentiment goes contrary to the spirit of the U.S. Constitution. The best Muslims I know are better then the worst Christians I am familiar with. Such a call to religious bigotry is ignorant and bigoted in nature.
you are quite possibly correct. bible does say that there will be many who will be very surprised when judgement comes in that they will not be included, yet they thought they would be. it also cautions very strongly about being deceived during the period of later days, saying that being deceived will lead to great woe. follow this logic that is very interesting. In early part of bible, the torah party, where 'the law' is explained and the old covenant given it says that the descendants of abraham will receive this promise that is to last forever that god will give this group certain lands. but it is always a conditional promise based on whether this chosen group will follow 'the law'. and even when it says that this promise will be good forever even after this chosen group forgets the law, it says that if this group will repent, then the promise will always be good. So, the language is always conditional, not absolute. then in Jeremiah 10 & 31 it says specifically that the old covenant to this 'chosen' group is broken by them, not by god, but by the chosen group who are the descendants of abraham. It says a divorce has occurred and the old covenant no longer good. and then it says again that the promise will always be good if that group repents and again follows 'the law'. Regardless of all this it is assumed that present-day Israelis are the descendants of abraham and therefore to have the right (per god) to take land from their neighbors and kill them. As the jewish rabbi in Israel said on March 26 of this year in Haaretz, the Palestinians are Amelikites and per the bible the Israelis should kill them all and take their land - all based on this biological descendancy from Abraham. but it seems logically that most Israelis are from europe and at least have a lot of european blood in them and likely are not descendant from Abraham. But the Palestinians on the other hand have much stronger blood-lines to the early jews of that area and are more likely to be blood-descendants from Abraham. So, the Israelis claim a blood descendancy and use this as a justification for taking the land from the people who probably really do have a blood descendancy. Then you have the New Testament ideas, where it says specifically in Galatians 3:29 that the heirs to the original promise made to Abraham are those who believe (and presumably in Jesus). and these believers are referred to as Abraham's seed though they are not his biological seed. So the New Testament has a completely new promise called the New Covenant. since the Israelis are not believers in the christian way, then per the New Testament they are not heirs to the Old Covenant. and the New Testament spends a lot of time explaining that this New covenant is open to all who believe regardless of ethnic or religious background, to jew & gentile (or greek) alike it says. Point is, the Israelis don't really qualify by either standard. yet they claim it, they claim the New Testament standard is illegitimate. and lots of christians being pre-New testament christians go along with this. The whole thing is insanity and based on lies no matter how you look at it.
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Excellent post and explanation. Thank you. I concur completely.
it just goes to show you that the people the Israelis hate & persecute the most (the Palestinians) are the very people that actually have the claim to legitimacy that the Israelis covet and claim for themselves and even use as justification to persecute the hated group.
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Thank you for reminding me to get up off my lazy ass and talk to my new neighbors.Lot's of screaming, they must have kids... Prolly best I don't wander over right now...
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
That's nice Mike, but I know a Jehovah's Witness that would make most sober people wince like a rotten onion.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
It borders on stone-cold insanity for us to be over there for any reason. But, I guess that we will play our part in a script that was written before time began. I'm sad that I'm on the stage.
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#4. To: christine, everyone (#3)
War Is the Health of the STATE
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From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#6. To: snoopdougg (#0)
I was reminded of this the other day when I saw this video of Rod Parsley, a megachurch pastor and neocon sock puppet in Columbus, Ohio.
#7. To: Dakmar, Nasty Language Alert! (#6)
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Dak, you have mad skills.
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#19. To: snoopdougg (#0)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
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Any Christian who advocates or supports aggressive or preemptive war or any of the shit currently going on or being planned is most definitely not going to be "saved"
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The best Muslims I know are better then the worst Christians I am familiar with.
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