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Title: BHO, in another gaffe, says NAD-hero dictator Chavez siezed power post '01
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Published: May 26, 2008
Author: Noel Sheppard
Post Date: 2008-05-26 08:03:51 by Jethro Tull
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Will Media Report Obama's Gaffe About When Hugo Chavez Came to Power?
By Noel Sheppard | May 25, 2008 - 15:14 ET
Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama made another gaffe on the campaign trail Friday when he suggested at a luncheon hosted by the Cuban American National Foundation that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez came to power while George W. Bush was in the White House.
Chavez was first elected president in 1998, and reelected in 2000, both occurring while Bill Clinton was serving his second term.
This was not the only gaffe Obama made in Florida Friday, for at another campaign stop, the junior senator from Illinois several times referred to the city of Sunrise as "Sunshine." This comes a week after calling Sioux Falls, South Dakota, "Sioux City," and two weeks after saying that America has 57 states.
Will Obama-loving media ever cover these gaffes?
While you ponder, here's the text of Obama's mistake concerning Chavez (video embedded upper right, relevant section begins at minute 2:50, h/t LGF):
Story Continues Below Ad [5; Since the Bush Administration launched a misguided war in Iraq, its policy in the Americas has been negligent toward our friends, ineffective with our adversaries, disinterested in the challenges that matter in peoples’ lives, and incapable of advancing our interests in the region. No wonder, then, that demagogues like Hugo Chavez have stepped into this vacuum.
Are these gaffes ever going to get reported?
This is a presidential election, and the man who is likely to be the Democrat nominee doesn't seem to know how many states are in our union, what city he's in when he's campaigning, or when our enemies came to power.
Isn't this newsworthy?
After all, if McCain made these errors on the stump, media would be claiming it to be early signs of Alzheimer's, and that would be the end of his campaign.
Those interested in more on the differences between how the press cover Democrat and Republican gaffes should read Michelle Malkin's fabulous piece on this subject from last Wednesday.
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BHO is an empty suit, who is able to capitalize on decades of multicultural indoctrination. If he were white, Hillary would be the D nominee.
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#48. To: Kamala (#47)
I have to admit to having been taken in at the beginning. I fell off track for a spell. My hatred for BushInc was such that I didn't see the enemy here on my LEFT flank. I do now.
*yawn*
Yes, but if Venezuela were our 51st state, all that revenue would belong to the United States of America, if it retained the same ownership model it has now, and the USA would be very close to energy self-sufficiency by the mere fact it controlled those reserves. Why do you think "we" invaded Iraq? Aside from doing Israel's bidding, the main (and continuing) reason is to loot it of its crude oil over the next several decades.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Obama gets a lot of free passes from the media, but so does McCain. Mad Mac didn't know the difference between a Shi'ite and Sunni Muslim, and that barely got a mention. And that was from a candidate who always talks about how strong in foreign policy he's supposed to be. The only time a candidate is really savaged by the MSM for these kinds of gaffes is when they don't have the stamp of establishment approval. I knew that Mad Mac's "Straight Talk Express" was the Bullshit Express from the amount of support he got from the MSM, just like I know that BHO's talk about "change" is a load of bunk. If Mad Mac were really a "straight talking maverick" and BHO were a real "outsider bringing real change," they'd be ignored or ripped to pieces by the press, not promoted.
I don't have any sympathy for Communists of any stripe, but I also think that if a sovereign nation wants or has a Communist government, that's their business. It's not the job of the US military and US taxpayer to overthrow the dictators of other countries or to engage in "nation building." So if the people of Venezuela have a "commie" in power or the people of Iran have a Koran-thumping nut in power, that's their business or their problem. We have enough trouble with our own corrupt government and our own religious nuts. And you can hardly blame people in other countries for supporting dictators, whatever their ideology or however corrupt they are, who refuse to be puppets of the US these days.
JT: I have to admit to having been taken in at the beginning. I fell off track for a spell. My hatred for BushInc was such that I didn't see the enemy here on my LEFT flank. I do now. I think some posted on that You Go Hugo thread - myself included -because it was fun to hear Hugo saying the outrageously insulting things he did to Dubya - fullfilling everyone's secret fantasies. The speech to the UN about Hugo feeling the coldness of the Devil walking by was the best. Ha! Although no doubt there were probably some posters who may have admired Hugo's politics perhaps.
You got it. Whatever you think of Chavez's policies, I'm glad there's somebody out there who has the guts to tell Shrub to go fuck himself.
My all time Great Hope fantasy was for Hugo to challenge our Fearless Leader to a mano-e-mano rumble. hee hee Hugo of course is a genuine for real army paratrooper whereas Shrub's military past amounts to being a human mannequin who wore a too tight flight suit one day for a photo shoot on a navy ship. Would that not be a funny fight to watch? How many seconds do you think it would take before Fearless Leader would wet his flight suit and the referee would need to call off the rumble of the ages?
No question about it. If they adore Obama, they must love Chavez as well. They had me fooled.
McCain's insane open border policy is enough for reasonable people to wish him a massive and fatal MI. I'm sorry for the blunt, but this isn't anything I wouldn't say to the little nuts face.
I think some equated that with a more leftist view point of most here at 4um. To the "surprise" of these commies, most here don't buy into the fraud of the two party system. Their straw man argument is, if you rip on Obama, then you MUST support Hillery or McCain. Since most here support neither party, their argument falls to pieces. It just blows their minds that most are what they have stated they are, true independent constitutionalists. you nailed it, Mark. vast, what don't you democrats get about us not harping on the sins of hillary and mccain/bush when we've been doing that for the last 8 yrs, for some 16, if you include the clinton years. so drop that talking point. it only makes you look silly and desperate.
Christine, could you be a bit more specific on what I am 'desperate' about? Is there something that I stand to lose or... what is it? Silly, I understand. It's a subjective observation and everyone is entitled to subjectivity - that being the only way most if not all of us relate to reality. But 'desperate'? It's a very powerful concept describing a state of mind that brings in my head images of Greek (or, like W would say... Grecian) tragedies. On you calling me 'you democrats', I must admit that I am still registered with the Demos. I did so a couple of months ago because I wanted to vote for Obama, which I did. I also wrote in my kids and my deceased dog for other positions. I am likely to stay a registered demo until I feel like I wish to vote in some other party's primary. But, if you wish to call me 'you democrats', I have no problem with that. Party membership in the USA means little to me. I stood my ground when joining or not joining something like 'the communist party' was a public act and doing one or the other meant submission and public humiliation or proud but very risky independence. The US political process, on the other hand, it's a silly carnival and it's fun observing it and joining the silliness from time to time. There is little risk and, for anyone not close to the inner circles, there's no reward either way. Talking about silliness... all these threads on... Obama not counting the states right or... God forbid, not recalling when exactly Chavez came to power for the second time or his relationship with his neighbors or the guys his mother dated... I don't know how to call that. Maximum silliness maybe? No... that would be to light a term. How about absolute-bottom dumbness? You might not have noticed, but I participated on this thread because the content appealed to me as mildly entertaining. That should be obvious. I hope no one thought that I was seriously or angrily calling JT a 'metro-sexualist' and I never assumed that he seriously thought that I was swimming to work. And, talking about my late dog, I wrote in for state attorney general, is everyone aware that DOG spelled backwards reads GOD? It's troubling but it's also true! Try it.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
i'm simply talking about the relentless accusation by you and the other obama/democrat supporters that because we don't support him that makes us for mccain or hillary. i believe that you all would be the ones likely to support hillary against mccain if she were to secure the D nomination.
I knew it!
First of all, I do not do collective labeling. I might have used terms as 'ophiles' and 'ophobes' but, if you noticed that those are funny words, you would have concluded that I'm only doing it to point at the absurdity of some 'debates'. It is true that I did ask JT - who is frantically and constantly providing articles criticizing the minutia of Obama's associations or memory lapses and presenting them as evidence of his treason, racism or worse - to indicate if he was equally criticizing Hillary or McCain. That was a reasonable line of inquiry, given that JT is one of those who (falsely) claim that there is not one iota of difference between the 3 'major' candidates to the US presidency. If they are equally terrible, I would expect that he would equally help us understand how terrible each of the three was. He confirmed that he is not criticizing McCain or Hillary, which makes me suspect that he probably loves them. He said that he's not criticizing them because they are senior politicians while Obama is new and Black. This is a very stupid argument. It's like, let's say, Lieberman declared himself as an independent candidate for the US presidency, no one should bother criticizing him because he was an old politician. Or no one should have discussed Ron Paul because he'd been politics for 20-30 years already. I copied JT, since I described his argument that senior politicians should not be criticized as 'stupid'.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
I knew it! But, unlike you, I am not a lover of the Hillory. Why do you love her so much? Is it because you get two for the price of one?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Why are you a registered D?
Yes, I registered a couple of months ago so I could vote for Dr. O. I live in PA and you can't vote in a Demo primary unless you register. I believe I discussed this important event in my life in one or more special threads at this site and elsewhere.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
I did the same. Though tomorrow I am stopping by election central HQ and returning to the fold of the Pacific Green Party. I am for Barack Obama for POTUS, but I don't feel comfortable remaining as a returnee to the Democratic Party.
So now you leave those dregs, right?
It doesn't really matter. You don't pay dues and you don't swear loyalty to Howard Dean or to the Ghost of Lyndon Johnson.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Ahhhh.... I already announced on THIS very thread that I will register to another party if and when I feel like voting in some other party's primary. It's not worth the postage and my time to specifically unregister. And, if it costs them money sending me junk mail, the better off the nation.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
So you're comfy now in the the cloak of a socialist. I see....
Have you been trying to sell BHO over at TOS2? Why not, otherwise?
True, but I often work in an office down the hall from the Pacific Green Party HQ in Lane County. They get the data base of voters, they would notice if I stayed a Democrat. ;-)
I don't care one way or another. As a general rule, I do what I want, when I want it, if it is doable, it's ethical and it doesn't hurt or inconvenience others needlessly. You seem to love Hillary without being a registered Demo.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
I lost track. Which one is TOS2? LP? I am semi-banned there.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Man, don't tempt me to go over there and post some more pro-Obama threads.
I can't post threads there, only replies to existing posts. But I haven't exercised the privilege in quite a while.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Nor I. It's just comforting knowing the reason for the recent spat on 4um. We had a pack of Ds/leftists/socialists, who held together with us independents only in our shared hatred for Bush. Once the Selection drew near, your/their partisanship became apparent.
Obama makes Bush look smart and that is no easy task. Obama should step down and let Jeremiah Wright take over, at least with him you know what you are getting and he is a heck of a lot smarter as well.
God is always good!
So you're calling the Hillary and McCain lovers 'independents' and those who don't love them 'socialists'? Why? How about you call yourselves 'true patriots' or 'national heroes' or 'founding grandsons (and daughters)' and everyone else 'commie-nazis'?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Ricky, you predicted that Obama would withdraw by month's end and let Hillary carry the torch of freedom. You advised me to 'watch and learn'. Well... it's not happening. Are you prepared to admit your inability to properly relate to the generally-accepted version of reality?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Obama can make these mistakes and get away with it becasue he is half black. He is not expected to be that bright by most people. Most of his white supporters think that his "goodness" makes up for his lack of intellect.
God is always good!
McCain lover too you are?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
You still support that joke? You have much to learn, much indeed.
God is always good!
You're a registered D and a supporter of Obama, who is a socialist. Elementary, dear Watson.
His white supporters are liberals, and voting for Obama makes them "feel good."
Obama graduated with a J.D. magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991. How do you do that if you 'lack intellect?'
LOL :))) You must have done much better than Harvard's creme de la creme. Right? And, to address your McCain infatuation (or shall we call it love?), I bet that, in your version of reality, Annapolis bottom of the class beats Harvard's top every single day and most nights. Yes?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
His support comes from people getting to know the contents of his character and the man inside. Voting for a mere icon as you claim people are doing does not build or stay this sustained as his run for the White House has been. All you have with your guilt label is an empty concept that will be swept away profoundly with the Obama presidency.
My first clue was about a year ago when there was a Chavez thread going, and many were cheering for Hugo etc
#49. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#45)
#50. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#13)
#51. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
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#52. To: Kamala (#47)
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#53. To: Jethro Tull (#48)
Kamala: My first clue was about a year ago when there was a Chavez thread going, and many were cheering for Hugo etc
#54. To: scrapper2 (#53)
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#55. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#54)
You got it. Whatever you think of Chavez's policies, I'm glad there's somebody out there who has the guts to tell Shrub to go fuck himself.
#56. To: scrapper2 (#53)
Although no doubt there were probably some posters who may have admired Hugo's politics perhaps
#57. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#51)
#58. To: Kamala, a vast rightwing conspirator (#43)
There are not many of the closet collectivists left here at 4um. The few here found a safe haven of sorts. These socialists found refuge here the last couple years because of the relentless ripping on the Bush administration.
#59. To: christine (#58)
#60. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#59)
#61. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#59)
I must admit that I am still registered with the Demos.
#62. To: christine, jethro tull (#60)
#63. To: Jethro Tull (#61)
I must admit that I am still registered with the Demos.
#64. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#63)
#65. To: Jethro Tull (#64)
#66. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#65)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#67. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#65)
#68. To: Ferret Mike (#66)
#69. To: Jethro Tull (#67)
#70. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#69)
Ahhhh.... I already announced on THIS very thread that I will register to another party if and when I feel like voting in some other party's primary.
#71. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Jethro Tull (#69)
#72. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#68)
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#73. To: Jethro Tull (#70)
#74. To: buckeye (#71)
#75. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#74)
#76. To: buckeye (#75)
#77. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#73)
I don't care one way or another.
#78. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#79. To: Jethro Tull (#77)
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#80. To: RickyJ (#78)
#81. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
After all, if McCain made these errors on the stump, media would be claiming it to be early signs of Alzheimer's, and that would be the end of his campaign.
#82. To: RickyJ (#81)
#83. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#80)
#84. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#79)
#85. To: RickyJ (#81)
Most of his white supporters think that his "goodness" makes up for his lack of intellect.
#86. To: RickyJ (#81)
"...makes up for his lack of intellect."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#87. To: RickyJ (#81)
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Most of his white supporters think that his "goodness" makes up for his lack of intellect.
#88. To: Jethro Tull (#85)
"His white supporters are liberals, and voting for Obama makes them "feel good.""
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
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