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Title: Monument To Dead Fags
Source: Reuters
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/news/picture ... 080527&channelName=newsOne#a=3
Published: May 28, 2008
Author: Dave Graham
Post Date: 2008-05-28 05:52:59 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 692
Comments: 41

BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany unveiled a monument to the tens of thousands of homosexuals persecuted under the Nazis, whose laws were used to prosecute gay men for a generation after World War Two.

Berlin mayor Klaus Wowereit, who is openly gay, hailed the grey, concrete memorial as a long overdue acknowledgement of the repression of homosexuals, 50,000 of whom were convicted by Nazi courts during Adolf Hitler's 12-year dictatorship.

"The monument consecrated today is a reminder to us of the horrors of the past and draws our attention to the degree of discrimination that currently exists," Wowereit said.

"Great efforts will still need to be undertaken before the sight of two men or women kissing here or in Moscow or elsewhere on the planet is accepted by society in general."

The 600,000 euro ($950,000) cube in Berlin's central Tiergarten park stands opposite the monument to the 6 million European Jews murdered by the Nazis, and was designed by the Danish-Norwegian pairing of Michael Elmgreen and Ingar Dragset.

Nazi authorities ordered the castration of some gay men, and sent thousands more to concentration camps, many of whom were murdered or died from hunger and disease.

Until 1969, when the centre-left Social Democrats headed a government for the first time since the Weimar Republic, Nazi laws continued to be applied to prosecute homosexuals.

The country's gay and lesbian association (LSVD) said that for years German homosexuals had been cut out of the official culture of commemoration, and denied compensation.

"Commemoration must have consequences," the LSVD said in a statement. "The rehabilitation of those people who were convicted under Nazi laws must therefore be the next step."

(Writing by Dave Graham; Editing by Giles Elgood)


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#6. To: All (#0)

I can't believe the comments I am reading here. Please tell me how persecution of anyone because of their sexual preference or practices is okay in your book. And no, I don't mean to include non-consensual acts, but rather two men or women deciding they want to get their jollies with each other than the way that you and I might decide to.

I know many homosexuals, both male and female and I can tell you their sexuality is never an issue. They generally keep it to themselves, just like most heterosexuals. They have a wide range of personalities just like heterosexuals. Every one of them I know is gainfully employed. They just happen to enjoy their sex differently.

I find it hypocritical for people to be posting in a site devoted to individual freedoms to be so critical of people exercising some of that individual freedom. And as far as the gay pride parades, I simply laugh at them. But then I'm not a sexually repressed Puritan afraid of seeing the human body. Neither am I Beavis, sniggering every time someone exposes a nipple or butt cheek.

Grow up people.

Jeffersonish  posted on  2008-06-19   0:32:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jeffersonish (#6)

But then I'm not a sexually repressed Puritan afraid of seeing the human body. Neither am I Beavis, sniggering every time someone exposes a nipple or butt cheek.

The above is just another example of people that are so loving and caring, non biased, on and on, and then you have the audacity in the same post to lay out your own bias, dislike, hate or whatever.

Look in the mirror, you do not see a "sexually repressed Puritan", what do you see?

We know what we see from your own posting, your own words.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-19   3:42:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#11)

But then I'm not a sexually repressed Puritan afraid of seeing the human body. Neither am I Beavis, sniggering every time someone exposes a nipple or butt cheek.

The above is just another example of people that are so loving and caring, non biased, on and on, and then you have the audacity in the same post to lay out your own bias, dislike, hate or whatever.

Look in the mirror, you do not see a "sexually repressed Puritan", what do you see?

We know what we see from your own posting, your own words.

Yes, I do think it is loving and caring to point out to others when they are being hateful. Maybe it will lead to them being more accepting individuals when it comes to actions that aren't doing anything to harm them.

You think I am biased when I characterize Puritans as being sexually repressed? I dare say, this is one of the defining characteristics of Puritans. You might find sexual repression to be a good thing. At one time, most people did. The term sexual repression has come to have a negative connotation which I embrace, but apparently you don't. My bias is based on reason... it is not unfounded. I dislike hateful speech and I don't apologize for that. I hate hate and the world would, I think, be a better place if we tried to turn our hate into positive emotions and actions.

When I look in the mirror, I see someone who enjoys his human body and enjoys sex and who is happy to know others can do the same in their own way.

Jeffersonish  posted on  2008-06-19   10:12:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jeffersonish (#23)

When I look in the mirror, I see someone who enjoys his human body and enjoys sex and who is happy to know others can do the same in their own way.

I must admit at never having "enjoyed" my body or anyone elses.

It is the behavior of the few that insist on having recognition from the majority that brings conflicts.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-19   10:21:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#24)

I must admit at never having "enjoyed" my body or anyone elses.

It is the behavior of the few that insist on having recognition from the majority that brings conflicts.

You've never "enjoyed" your body? How sad. Or anyone elses? Also sad. Well actually this one depends on your age I guess... Are you old enough to be having sex? Oh, and by the way, I didn't mean any particular activity when I said, "enjoyed."

That second part sounds dangerously close to, "They're trying to convert us all!"

Jeffersonish  posted on  2008-06-19   11:25:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jeffersonish (#31)

Are you old enough to be having sex?

Am I????

Looking down the road a bit I can see 80.

"You've never "enjoyed" your body? How sad."

Really??? I agree some people are indeed obsessed with sex, their body, bodies of others, all fits in human nature. Once that obsession transcends acceptable social behavior, society breaks down. It has often been said that the human brain is the biggest sex organ and that some are unable to control it.

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