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Title: Who would destroy this nation faster, McKooK or Obama?
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Published: May 30, 2008
Author: moi
Post Date: 2008-05-30 18:10:18 by Jethro Tull
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It's a tough call. As weary as I am of stewing slowly in the pot, I'm beginning to think the worst of two evils would be better than the lesser of two evils, if only to hope they go too quickly, waking a few frogs up in the process. Just a thought.

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#11. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#9)

They can't even handle insurgents in Iraq, let alone a real standing army.

Handle them? They have demolished them. They are not trying to handle a Army now, they are trying to keep the "peace", that is the only reason they are being picked off. They were never meant to keep the peace, they were meant to kill.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-30   19:54:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Dead heat. They're both a couple of circling sharks about to devour the Constitutional Republic.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-05-30   19:56:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Arator (#5)

The future of the Republic hangs on Obama rising to the challenge, seizing the historical opportunity before him, reversing course and beginning what will be a decades long repair of the system- wide and globe-wide damage done to America by 25 plus years of corrupt, spooked-up Bush- Clintonism.

That's quite a wish list for a mere mortal, never mind a politician.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-30   20:04:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Arator (#5)

The future of the Republic hangs on Obama rising to the challenge, seizing the historical opportunity before him, reversing course and beginning what will be a decades long repair of the system- wide and globe-wide damage done to America by 25 plus years of corrupt, spooked-up Bush- Clintonism.

Spoken as a true nut case.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-30   20:07:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: RickyJ (#6)

Obama is not meant to wake any one up. He is meant for race riots. The elite chose him specifically for this purpose or they would have found a much better qualified black to run, if they were looking for a black president.

Can you imagine Obama losing a squeaker to McKooK? You'll have race riots on top of race riots. No question about that.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-30   20:08:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: X-15 (#12)

Dead heat. They're both a couple of circling sharks about to devour the Constitutional Republic.

Short, succinct, and dead on.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-30   20:09:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#15)

Can you imagine Obama losing a squeaker to McKooK? You'll have race riots on top of race riots. No question about that.

Well I guess Obama has woken some whites up to black racism, but unfortunately not many. Blacks will see ordinary whites won't put up with them if they try riots again. Many are ready and waiting for them.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-30   20:10:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Who would destroy this nation faster, McKooK or Obama?

It's a trick, isn't it?

You want me to vote for Obama just to start Civil War II.

Where did you get your awesome powers of mind control?

:)

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-30   20:15:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Dakmar (#18)

New loon alert, this one sports a Bobby Darin haircut.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-30   20:22:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull (#19)

LOL, I love being called an agitator.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-30   20:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: RickyJ (#17)

Many are ready and waiting for them.

So Obama will have worth.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-30   20:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: RickyJ (#8)

There isn't a military in existence today in the world the USA military can't handle.

As far as bombing a country and obliterating, then yes, the US can easily "defeat" any military on Earth, with the exception of China. So if we're willing to exterminate most of the civilian population of a country, then we can "win," like we could have "won" in Vietnam by using nuclear weapons.

Since not even the Bush administration is that depraved, it means that realistically, war means occupying a country and fighting against guerillas, like we did in Vietnam, and as we'll do if Bush invades Iran before leaving office. And guerillas in their native land can usually win a war of attrition.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-05-31   11:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Arator (#5) (Edited)

No question about it. The most dangerous man ever to run for president is the McCainiac, McKook. The future of the Republic hangs on Obama rising to the challenge, seizing the historical opportunity before him, reversing course and beginning what will be a decades long repair of the system- wide and globe-wide damage done to America by 25 plus years of corrupt, spooked-up Bush- Clintonism.

This the sort of mentality that really bugs me, because it reminds me of Bush 2000.

By all means vote for Obama over McCain because Obama is less likely to start a war with Iran (or worse, Russia or China). Or, by all means vote for McCain because he's slightly less of a gun-grabber or welfare state socialist than Obama. I don't agree with the "lesser evil" line anymore, but at least I understand it.

What I don't understand is people who talk about Obama as some sort of Messiah or Saviour. They sound just like the wingnuts who back in 2000, didn't just vote for Bush because they thought he'd raise taxes or grab guns less than Gore, but who talked about Bush "bringing decency back to the Presidency after 8 years of Clinton" or "a great man is back in charge." Some of those people are still in cloud cuckoo land, others woke up and were really disappointed to discover that the girl who looked hot after 10 shots of whisky last night looks like a hippo in a skirt when they're sober. I think most of you Obama-ites are in for the same surprise as many of the Bush people from 8 years ago.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-05-31   11:50:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: X-15 (#12)

Dead heat. They're both a couple of circling sharks about to devour the Constitutional Republic.

Bingo!

scrapper2  posted on  2008-05-31   12:05:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Jethro Tull, RickyJ (#23) (Edited)

What I don't understand is people who talk about Obama as some sort of Messiah or Saviour.

It really does take much for a president to be a "Messiah or Saviour" these days. The bar has been set so low by Obama's predecessors that if he merely demonstrates a modicum of faithfulness to the Constitution, some semblance of sanity and an ability to communicate he might very well be so regarded.

That's not really not asking for much, though. We don't need a Messiah. We just need a normal, well-adjusted, intelligent and rational human being in that office (as opposed to a neocon nutjob). Is that too much to ask? Or expect? I think not.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2008-05-31   12:55:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Arator (#25)

We don't need a Messiah. We just need a normal, well-adjusted, intelligent and rational human being in that office (as opposed to a neocon nutjob). Is that too much to ask? Or expect? I think not.

Do you see any currently on the political horizon???

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-31   12:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull, X-15, Pissed Off Janitor, Arator, cynicom, christine, RickyJ, Rupert_Pupkin, James Deffenbach, Horse, Tauzero, Dakmar, All (#0)

BOTH Obama and McCain are scheduled to address AIPAC next week.

Oh goody, Americans will get yet another chance to see our politicians, Presidential candidates grovel and try to out-do one another as to how far they can stick their noses up AIPAC's butt crack.

Here's a little preview of the gala AIPAC event to come - McCain is interviewed by Jeffrey Goldberg at The Atlantic Monthly - yikes, sicko, gag bag alert.

jeffreygoldberg.theatlant.../mccain_on_israel_iran_an d_the_1.php

"McCain on Israel, Iran and the Holocaust" 05/30/08

scrapper2  posted on  2008-05-31   13:05:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: scrapper2 (#27)

Perhaps you do not believe that over $200 million dollars has been lavished upon Obummer by Mom and Pop Black from Harlem and Watts?

Only one candidate among two dozen or so has NOT had a problem with financing from day one. Just one. Odd.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-31   13:16:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Arator (#25)

We just need a normal, well-adjusted, intelligent and rational human being in that office (as opposed to a neocon nutjob).

There was ONE of those running. His name is Ron Paul. The guy you are touting now is just about his exact opposite in every way imaginable.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-31   13:43:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: James Deffenbach (#29)

We just need a normal, well-adjusted, intelligent and rational human being in that office (as opposed to a neocon nutjob).

There was ONE of those running. His name is Ron Paul. The guy you are touting now is just about his exact opposite in every way imaginable.

Amen, and say it again.

Lod  posted on  2008-05-31   13:46:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: scrapper2 (#27)

BOTH Obama and McCain are scheduled to address AIPAC next week.

both of 'em, hmmmmm?

christine  posted on  2008-05-31   13:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: christine (#31)

I hope someone gets film of them swearing their oaths of fealty to a foreign potentate.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   13:48:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: buckeye (#32)

There is an unfounded rumor that no matter which goof ball wins, the White House will be moved to Tel Aviv.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-31   13:52:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#33)

You mean from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem?

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   14:03:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#33)

There is an unfounded rumor that no matter which goof ball wins, the White House will be moved to Tel Aviv.

Best news I've heard in a long time. Make them take the gutless congress, and the nine crows with'em.

Lod  posted on  2008-05-31   14:07:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: buckeye (#34)

You mean from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem?

Young man, you speak of de facto White House, I am speaking of the bricks and mortar White House.

Congress is now deliberating on calling itself Knesset-West. More in keeping with the majority of its lifetime inhabitants.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-31   14:08:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

As I believe Obama is a closet racist, he might be the best choice for chaos domestically. If words are to be believed, McCain will get us nuked quicker.

If Obama wins the bar will be moved and an all white candidates slate will never again be seen.

We'll have white nerds debating screaming rads like Angela Davis and Sista Soulja, who has been teaching college and getting groomed for the future, just like Davis.

Presidential debates will look more like the BET Music awards, with soulful singing of "the message" and hooting and howling preventing any serious discussions of "white people politics".

Once the overly-inflected gospel singing begins white folks will tune out and selecting the president will be forfeited to "them other people."

If McCain and Lieberman win then it will go in a different direction. (it's a sure bet that McCain will not finish his term and Lieberman will be president)

Either way the reign of the white (pseudo) Christian president may be over.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-05-31   14:08:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)

Either way the reign of the white (pseudo) Christian president may be over.

Now thats the truth.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-31   14:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: HOUNDDAWG, Christien, lodwick, buckeye (#37)

Actually we could be saddled with all three losers.

Hillary as prez, Obummer as VP and McKooK as Sec of Def.

We would then have a feminist, a racist and a crazy man, all indebted to Israel.

Real Americans would be an endangered specie.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-31   14:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37) (Edited)

i said long ago that i thought mccain would choose lieberman, but as far as i know, lieberman was not on mccain's shortlist. you're thinking he will be mccain's pick?

if so, i'll be convinced than that this pair was the PTB selection from the getgo. there's no other explanation for mckook "winning" the GOP nom.

christine  posted on  2008-05-31   14:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)

Skokie gears up for Festival of Cultures - Skokie Review, May 8, 2008

Count the number of times "diverse" appears in this article and win a jar of jelly beans.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-31   14:23:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: christine (#40)

Once Lieberman was mentioned as a possible it became a gift that could not be rescinded.

It's a foregone decision as are the unfortunate circumstances that will remove McCain as president shortly after the election.

(Heart attack, stroke, convulsions, or something)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-05-31   14:26:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Dakmar (#41)

Oh yeah, Skokie is diverse.

They have Iraqi Jews, Russian Jews, Cuban Jews, African Jews, and....

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-05-31   14:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Dakmar (#41)

That article was brutal - good to learn that Ireland will once again get some love.

Lod  posted on  2008-05-31   14:40:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: HOUNDDAWG (#43)

The irony is glaring to all but those who can see it. Most people are uncomfortable challenging the status quo on big ticket items, and would prefer to remain ignorant to having to deal with very large gaps between what they believe and what they know to be cold, hard fact. Or at least well reasoned opinion.

How is it that the very same people can promote diversity, multiculturalism, and open borders for the US support the exact opposite philosophy when it comes to Israel?

Malignant, malicious, and treacherous hypocrisy, that's the only viable explanation I can come up with.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-31   14:51:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Dakmar (#45)

How is it that the very same people can promote diversity, multiculturalism, and open borders for the US support the exact opposite philosophy when it comes to Israel?

The same way that celibate priests can sanction and perform marriages for the survival of the Church.

The Priest class is there to guide the members (and counsel on the joys of sexual union in marriage for instance) while existing on a higher spiritual plane where those rules do not apply.

Israel is here to enlighten the world about diversity and that's more easily accomplished if they don't have to suffer with the schwartzes, goyem, etc., underfoot and tainting all that they touch.

A skillful pig farmer may know exactly what type of slop to throw to his pigs to maximize the yield-slop that he wouldn't dare eat or wallow in, right?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-05-31   14:59:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Dakmar (#45)

How is it that the very same people can promote diversity, multiculturalism, and open borders for the US support the exact opposite philosophy when it comes to Israel?

The very notion of distinct ethnicities is a threat to theirs. Their God is for them only, not for us. Outside of Israel, they are the iconoclasts, destroying all notion of otherness. Inside of Israel, they are the supreme opposite.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   15:01:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: HOUNDDAWG (#46)

The Priest class is there to guide the members (and counsel on the joys of sexual union in marriage for instance) while existing on a higher spiritual plane where those rules do not apply

I keep forgetting.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-31   15:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: scrapper2 (#27)

BOTH Obama and McCain are scheduled to address AIPAC next week.

A quick viewing of the AIPAC site shows that McCain speaks next monday and both Obama and Hillary are slotted two days later along with Pelosi and a few other "D"s. It's part of some 3 day blowout policy circle jerk they are having.

And what's this, no invitation for Dr. Paul the uncanidate? I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you!

I feel sorry for Obama. With all the negativity from the Israel lobby towards him I think someone should get the poor guy a shirt that reads "I sucked Zionist %&#@ and all I got was this stinking tee-shirt."

Looking forward to his speech, though. The debate over it ought to be good for a few 1000 posts on 4um alone.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.

"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-05-31   15:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#49)

I feel sorry for Obama. With all the negativity from the Israel lobby towards him I think someone should get the poor guy a shirt that reads "I sucked Zionist %&#@ and all I got was this stinking tee-shirt."

lol

Well done and thanks for the laugh.

Lod  posted on  2008-05-31   15:19:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Dakmar (#45)

Malignant, malicious, and treacherous hypocrisy, that's the only viable explanation I can come up with.

Now Napoleon, there was a leader!

No no, b-b-BOP-p-p-bop bop bop...

Tauzero  posted on  2008-06-02   11:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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