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Title: AJ's a bad motherf***er ... give a C-note or f*** off !
Source: www.infowars.com
URL Source: http://www.infowars.com
Published: May 31, 2008
Author: Doug Scheidt
Post Date: 2008-05-31 21:35:07 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 949
Comments: 54

I don't have anything to say other than this son of a bitch is an American, like me, he will keep his word, he is doing the job ... so decide between Hagee and Jones ...

My vote is with JONES ... fuck Obama !

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#5. To: noone222 (#4)

Where's the media you were watching/hearing?

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   21:53:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#4)

C'mon let's make it happen !

We're giving at my house!

CadetD  posted on  2008-05-31   21:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeye (#1)

If everything is pre-destined, why did the American founding fathers fight the British?

Because it was pre-destined.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   21:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeye (#1)

If everything is pre-destined, why did the American founding fathers fight the British?

Because they believed that God had foreordained that they would win; their responsibility was to transform their faith into action and fight.

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-05-31   21:58:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: nobody (#7)

No, it was because they up and did it. No other reason. The Brits were unstoppable except in America.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   21:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: buckeye (#9)

The Brits were unstoppable except in America

"We" are America ... fuck the NWO ... let's support this guy ... he's more focused than anyone else (including Ron Paul) ... when the shit hits the fan Alex's troops will cut the throats of the NWO murderers !

As every good fascist knows, the perpetuation of the fascist fraud depends, in the long run, on the training of fledglings in the faith. The dictators catch their conscripts young and discipline them to think in goose-step. Promises of reward for the faithful and ominous warnings about the dangers of nonconformity play their part in making apprentices firmly believe a mass of lies, half-lies, and nonsense. Doubt, even the tiniest wondering doubt, is the cardinal sin. There are few heretics.

noone222  posted on  2008-05-31   22:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeye (#9)

Look, pre-destined is pre-destined.

I give up, it's all nonsense. No surprise the Bible is involved.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: nobody, DeaconBenjamin (#11)

I'm somewhere between you and DB. Faith is sometimes all people have, and sometimes they use the courage that comes from it to shape history.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:09:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeye (#9) (Edited)

No, it was because they up and did it. No other reason. The Brits were unstoppable except in America.

I thought you were asking someone to assume everything is predestined. Part of a disproof by self-contradiction. Silly thing for me to do, I guess.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: nobody (#13)

No worries.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeye (#3)

Quakers led the war against King George the III!

I'd sure like to read more about that. I know individual Quakers were active, but I thought they were disowned by their denomination. As for the Presbyterians and Lutherans, even the British recognized they were the leaders of the rebellion against Parliament.

King George is said to have characterized the American Revolution as "A Presbyterian War." Horace Walpole, addressing the English Parliament, said "There is no crying about it. Cousin America has run off with a Presbyterian parson and that is the end of it"

http://www.continentalline.org/articles/article.php?date=9504&article=950404

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-05-31   22:12:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: DeaconBenjamin (#15)

This ain't about Jesus ... it's about your family.

As every good fascist knows, the perpetuation of the fascist fraud depends, in the long run, on the training of fledglings in the faith. The dictators catch their conscripts young and discipline them to think in goose-step. Promises of reward for the faithful and ominous warnings about the dangers of nonconformity play their part in making apprentices firmly believe a mass of lies, half-lies, and nonsense. Doubt, even the tiniest wondering doubt, is the cardinal sin. There are few heretics.

noone222  posted on  2008-05-31   22:15:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeye (#1)

Not sure what the c-note reference meant, but that is a great video! Alex hit the nail on the head.

policestateusa.net/

PSUSA  posted on  2008-05-31   22:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: nobody (#13)

I suggest that we cut the shit and send some cash !!!

As every good fascist knows, the perpetuation of the fascist fraud depends, in the long run, on the training of fledglings in the faith. The dictators catch their conscripts young and discipline them to think in goose-step. Promises of reward for the faithful and ominous warnings about the dangers of nonconformity play their part in making apprentices firmly believe a mass of lies, half-lies, and nonsense. Doubt, even the tiniest wondering doubt, is the cardinal sin. There are few heretics.

noone222  posted on  2008-05-31   22:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: DeaconBenjamin (#15)

Excellent article, DB. You haven't posted it here, it seems.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:16:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: buckeye (#14) (Edited)

I think as long as people don't operate as if everything is predestined then things will be a lot less predictably bad for people. People are often rewarded for simulating randomness well, for being practically unpredictable. You might say their unpredictability or winning thereon is pre-destined. Pre-destined unpredictability. That's a bit self-contradictory.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:17:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: nobody (#20)

Counterattacks on AJ is that he's a Zionist or a Jesuit. What do you say about that? I think he's just trying to be as rational as possible.


Alex Jones Take on Being called a Zionist.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:21:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: buckeye (#21)

Counterattacks on AJ is that he's a Zionist or a Jesuit. What do you say about that?

Start thinking for yourself.

As every good fascist knows, the perpetuation of the fascist fraud depends, in the long run, on the training of fledglings in the faith. The dictators catch their conscripts young and discipline them to think in goose-step. Promises of reward for the faithful and ominous warnings about the dangers of nonconformity play their part in making apprentices firmly believe a mass of lies, half-lies, and nonsense. Doubt, even the tiniest wondering doubt, is the cardinal sin. There are few heretics.

noone222  posted on  2008-05-31   22:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: noone222 (#22)

I'm interested in nobody's specific opinion.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:33:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeye (#21)

It's antics with semantics, "zionism" and "jews" are two vaguely-defined sets of conditions always with significant amount of non-overlap and political ramifications. If one assumes for the sake of the same argument that despite all that the "jews" die or cease to be "jews" with the end, or abrupt turn of direction, of "zionism" as we all presently may know and love it, then what is it we are saying about the rest of mankind?

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:35:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeye (#5)

AJ's having a money bomb program at his infowars radio connection.

As every good fascist knows, the perpetuation of the fascist fraud depends, in the long run, on the training of fledglings in the faith. The dictators catch their conscripts young and discipline them to think in goose-step. Promises of reward for the faithful and ominous warnings about the dangers of nonconformity play their part in making apprentices firmly believe a mass of lies, half-lies, and nonsense. Doubt, even the tiniest wondering doubt, is the cardinal sin. There are few heretics.

noone222  posted on  2008-05-31   22:40:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: nobody (#24)

You fell into discussing the terms instead of the man. I personally think he's correct to avoid bringing up either term, because he'd lose a significant part of his audience, and he could be more readily identified by panderers as a talk show host monger of hate. There are some elements of his communication that are unavoidably going to be identified as hate speech, because to believe in what he is saying is to require the understanding that mass murderers are walking the face of the earth in the name of the USA, and that they want to kill billions of people, including Americans. But he manages to neatly avoid identifying them as a racial or religious groups, and instead discusses particular individuals.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeye (#26) (Edited)

It's just not a service to the unravelling of the confusion the terms create.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeye (#26)

You have it right ...

As every good fascist knows, the perpetuation of the fascist fraud depends, in the long run, on the training of fledglings in the faith. The dictators catch their conscripts young and discipline them to think in goose-step. Promises of reward for the faithful and ominous warnings about the dangers of nonconformity play their part in making apprentices firmly believe a mass of lies, half-lies, and nonsense. Doubt, even the tiniest wondering doubt, is the cardinal sin. There are few heretics.

noone222  posted on  2008-05-31   22:43:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: nobody (#20)

I think as long as people don't operate as if everything is predestined then things will be a lot less predictably bad for people.

The "we can't do anything because it is predestined" is a perverted understanding of the doctrine, often expressed by Christians who have no clue what the Bible really teaches and no interest in learning.

AJ is correct in most of his exegesis presented here. God's predestination is not a license to cower in fear or lick the boots of the Gestapo. Neither is it a license to start suicide bombing crowds of civilians in the name of God. It is a call to step out in faith to be a voice for the voiceless, to show the love of Christ, to fight evil and testify to the truth -- to the point of death, if God so wills.

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-05-31   22:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: nobody (#27)

I can interpret what you're saying as a criticism of his attackers: they conflate terms, when they should be discussing specifics. Each time he makes a mistake, or isn't specific enough, or is too specific, they have the opportunity to blame him. It's very hard to be 100% on target 100% of the time, especially when he has to stay on the air so much of the day.

The times I've listened to him I've gotten a lot out of it, and I've seen Terror Storm and End Game, and I've seen him interviewed on the subject of David Icke. He studies hard, communicates clearly, and tries to only appeal to baser motives in general terms rather than inciting hate for specific groups. This is a decent approach, very decent.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:46:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeye (#30) (Edited)

He appears to take the affirmative on an implicit proposition that the end of "zionism" means the death of "jews," whatever those two terms mean to him. To me that's an accusation of fatal flaw on the part of non-"jews" or these particular "jews." That is I believe the crypticly extremist aspect of his response.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: nobody (#31)

Now I understand what you're saying, thank you. If true, then I'd have to agree. This is a change of position for me, so I can understand why AJ hasn't gotten there yet. I don't know whether he realizes that it's really a matter of priorities. It's just not his problem, or ours.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: DeaconBenjamin (#29)

The "we can't do anything because it is predestined" is a perverted understanding of the doctrine

To me, it's as perverted as the doctrine of the rapture-nutters...and the result is just as wicked.

CadetD  posted on  2008-05-31   22:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: buckeye (#32) (Edited)

I've said it before, the MIC needs an engaging history and zionism provides it. There's no substitute. Much overlap with "zionism" and some history of some "jews" exists. It also just happens to be a mostly BS history self-told. It's a useful technique. Very unpredictable, in a predictable sort of way.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: nobody (#34)

We have an engaging history here, no need to go shopping for unconnected Talmudic stories.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   23:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: CadetD (#33)

The "we can't do anything because it is predestined" is a perverted understanding of the doctrine

To me, it's as perverted as the doctrine of the rapture-nutters...and the result is just as wicked.

Where you find one, you often find the other.

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-05-31   23:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: buckeye (#35)

We have an engaging history here

Hey I like it too, but one's mileage may vary.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   23:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: nobody (#37)

Yes, it can vary along ethnic and religious lines, in particular.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   23:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: buckeye (#38) (Edited)

I don't believe I'm approaching it from those perspectives. I'm actually just picking the parts that I like and it's otherwise mostly about most other people being seemingly stupid. Rags to riches stuff. Inventing the light-bulb and phonograph. Vulcanization of tire rubber. The Swamp Fox. Crazy old reading stuff like that.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   23:26:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: nobody (#39)

That seems to work.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   23:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: buckeye (#40) (Edited)

Wright Brothers, Goddard. All those lunatics. Moon landing. Jupiter probe, Mars rover. Hubble ST.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   23:35:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckeye (#40)

I'm tech oriented. Not a fan of wireless phones, though. That is where paranoid shit started really happening, IMO.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   23:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: nobody (#41)

Hear hear. Our American efforts, and our future. It's really limitless if we focus on what matters.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   23:41:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeye (#43) (Edited)

Technology is so double-edged and costly. That is the problem there. Of course it's all practically merely a design flaw, missing the right design. One that accounts for the intelligence of everyone.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   23:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: nobody (#44)

What boggles my mind is that we could get to the moon on a budget, using computers the size of what we use in home thermostats today, but now we can't even keep the space shuttle running.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   23:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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