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Title: AJ's a bad motherf***er ... give a C-note or f*** off !
Source: www.infowars.com
URL Source: http://www.infowars.com
Published: May 31, 2008
Author: Doug Scheidt
Post Date: 2008-05-31 21:35:07 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 806
Comments: 54

I don't have anything to say other than this son of a bitch is an American, like me, he will keep his word, he is doing the job ... so decide between Hagee and Jones ...

My vote is with JONES ... fuck Obama !

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#1. To: noone222 (#0) (Edited)

I'm coming around to this perspective. The man's on fire.

Alex Jones responds to Roman 13

If everything is pre-destined, why did the American founding fathers fight the British?

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   21:36:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeye (#1)

If everything is pre-destined, why did the American founding fathers fight the British?

Because it was pre-destined.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   21:57:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: nobody (#7)

No, it was because they up and did it. No other reason. The Brits were unstoppable except in America.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   21:59:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeye (#9) (Edited)

No, it was because they up and did it. No other reason. The Brits were unstoppable except in America.

I thought you were asking someone to assume everything is predestined. Part of a disproof by self-contradiction. Silly thing for me to do, I guess.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:10:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: nobody (#13)

No worries.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:11:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: buckeye (#14) (Edited)

I think as long as people don't operate as if everything is predestined then things will be a lot less predictably bad for people. People are often rewarded for simulating randomness well, for being practically unpredictable. You might say their unpredictability or winning thereon is pre-destined. Pre-destined unpredictability. That's a bit self-contradictory.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:17:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: nobody (#20)

Counterattacks on AJ is that he's a Zionist or a Jesuit. What do you say about that? I think he's just trying to be as rational as possible.


Alex Jones Take on Being called a Zionist.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:21:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeye (#21)

It's antics with semantics, "zionism" and "jews" are two vaguely-defined sets of conditions always with significant amount of non-overlap and political ramifications. If one assumes for the sake of the same argument that despite all that the "jews" die or cease to be "jews" with the end, or abrupt turn of direction, of "zionism" as we all presently may know and love it, then what is it we are saying about the rest of mankind?

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:35:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: nobody (#24)

You fell into discussing the terms instead of the man. I personally think he's correct to avoid bringing up either term, because he'd lose a significant part of his audience, and he could be more readily identified by panderers as a talk show host monger of hate. There are some elements of his communication that are unavoidably going to be identified as hate speech, because to believe in what he is saying is to require the understanding that mass murderers are walking the face of the earth in the name of the USA, and that they want to kill billions of people, including Americans. But he manages to neatly avoid identifying them as a racial or religious groups, and instead discusses particular individuals.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:41:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeye (#26) (Edited)

It's just not a service to the unravelling of the confusion the terms create.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:42:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: nobody (#27)

I can interpret what you're saying as a criticism of his attackers: they conflate terms, when they should be discussing specifics. Each time he makes a mistake, or isn't specific enough, or is too specific, they have the opportunity to blame him. It's very hard to be 100% on target 100% of the time, especially when he has to stay on the air so much of the day.

The times I've listened to him I've gotten a lot out of it, and I've seen Terror Storm and End Game, and I've seen him interviewed on the subject of David Icke. He studies hard, communicates clearly, and tries to only appeal to baser motives in general terms rather than inciting hate for specific groups. This is a decent approach, very decent.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:46:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeye (#30) (Edited)

He appears to take the affirmative on an implicit proposition that the end of "zionism" means the death of "jews," whatever those two terms mean to him. To me that's an accusation of fatal flaw on the part of non-"jews" or these particular "jews." That is I believe the crypticly extremist aspect of his response.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:49:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: nobody (#31)

Now I understand what you're saying, thank you. If true, then I'd have to agree. This is a change of position for me, so I can understand why AJ hasn't gotten there yet. I don't know whether he realizes that it's really a matter of priorities. It's just not his problem, or ours.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:52:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: buckeye (#32) (Edited)

I've said it before, the MIC needs an engaging history and zionism provides it. There's no substitute. Much overlap with "zionism" and some history of some "jews" exists. It also just happens to be a mostly BS history self-told. It's a useful technique. Very unpredictable, in a predictable sort of way.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:56:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: nobody (#34)

We have an engaging history here, no need to go shopping for unconnected Talmudic stories.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   23:09:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: buckeye (#35)

We have an engaging history here

Hey I like it too, but one's mileage may vary.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   23:14:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: nobody (#37)

Yes, it can vary along ethnic and religious lines, in particular.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   23:16:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: buckeye (#38) (Edited)

I don't believe I'm approaching it from those perspectives. I'm actually just picking the parts that I like and it's otherwise mostly about most other people being seemingly stupid. Rags to riches stuff. Inventing the light-bulb and phonograph. Vulcanization of tire rubber. The Swamp Fox. Crazy old reading stuff like that.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   23:26:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: nobody (#39)

That seems to work.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   23:31:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: buckeye (#40) (Edited)

Wright Brothers, Goddard. All those lunatics. Moon landing. Jupiter probe, Mars rover. Hubble ST.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   23:35:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: nobody (#41)

Hear hear. Our American efforts, and our future. It's really limitless if we focus on what matters.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   23:41:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#44. To: buckeye (#43) (Edited)

Technology is so double-edged and costly. That is the problem there. Of course it's all practically merely a design flaw, missing the right design. One that accounts for the intelligence of everyone.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31 23:48:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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