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Title: AJ's a bad motherf***er ... give a C-note or f*** off !
Source: www.infowars.com
URL Source: http://www.infowars.com
Published: May 31, 2008
Author: Doug Scheidt
Post Date: 2008-05-31 21:35:07 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 642
Comments: 54

I don't have anything to say other than this son of a bitch is an American, like me, he will keep his word, he is doing the job ... so decide between Hagee and Jones ...

My vote is with JONES ... fuck Obama !

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#1. To: noone222 (#0) (Edited)

I'm coming around to this perspective. The man's on fire.

Alex Jones responds to Roman 13

If everything is pre-destined, why did the American founding fathers fight the British?

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   21:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeye (#1)

Regardless of what the naysayers have to say ... Alex Jones is the catalyst to our continued freedom.

Let's fucking tell the whole world to "speak up" through him !

As every good fascist knows, the perpetuation of the fascist fraud depends, in the long run, on the training of fledglings in the faith. The dictators catch their conscripts young and discipline them to think in goose-step. Promises of reward for the faithful and ominous warnings about the dangers of nonconformity play their part in making apprentices firmly believe a mass of lies, half-lies, and nonsense. Doubt, even the tiniest wondering doubt, is the cardinal sin. There are few heretics.

noone222  posted on  2008-05-31   21:42:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: noone222 (#2)

He's in there "beating the priesthood," beating the Levites...

Talking about Christ's real role in the biblical sense. Quakers led the war against King George the III!

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   21:45:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeye (#3)

Once in awhile God gives us a voice ... and that voice today ... right now ... is Alex Jones ! He's a tough son of freedom. Let's get him on TV ... I just sent a hunskie ... C'mon let's make it happen !

As every good fascist knows, the perpetuation of the fascist fraud depends, in the long run, on the training of fledglings in the faith. The dictators catch their conscripts young and discipline them to think in goose-step. Promises of reward for the faithful and ominous warnings about the dangers of nonconformity play their part in making apprentices firmly believe a mass of lies, half-lies, and nonsense. Doubt, even the tiniest wondering doubt, is the cardinal sin. There are few heretics.

noone222  posted on  2008-05-31   21:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222 (#4)

Where's the media you were watching/hearing?

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   21:53:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#4)

C'mon let's make it happen !

We're giving at my house!

CadetD  posted on  2008-05-31   21:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeye (#1)

If everything is pre-destined, why did the American founding fathers fight the British?

Because it was pre-destined.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   21:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeye (#1)

If everything is pre-destined, why did the American founding fathers fight the British?

Because they believed that God had foreordained that they would win; their responsibility was to transform their faith into action and fight.

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-05-31   21:58:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: nobody (#7)

No, it was because they up and did it. No other reason. The Brits were unstoppable except in America.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   21:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: buckeye (#9)

The Brits were unstoppable except in America

"We" are America ... fuck the NWO ... let's support this guy ... he's more focused than anyone else (including Ron Paul) ... when the shit hits the fan Alex's troops will cut the throats of the NWO murderers !

As every good fascist knows, the perpetuation of the fascist fraud depends, in the long run, on the training of fledglings in the faith. The dictators catch their conscripts young and discipline them to think in goose-step. Promises of reward for the faithful and ominous warnings about the dangers of nonconformity play their part in making apprentices firmly believe a mass of lies, half-lies, and nonsense. Doubt, even the tiniest wondering doubt, is the cardinal sin. There are few heretics.

noone222  posted on  2008-05-31   22:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeye (#9)

Look, pre-destined is pre-destined.

I give up, it's all nonsense. No surprise the Bible is involved.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: nobody, DeaconBenjamin (#11)

I'm somewhere between you and DB. Faith is sometimes all people have, and sometimes they use the courage that comes from it to shape history.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:09:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeye (#9) (Edited)

No, it was because they up and did it. No other reason. The Brits were unstoppable except in America.

I thought you were asking someone to assume everything is predestined. Part of a disproof by self-contradiction. Silly thing for me to do, I guess.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: nobody (#13)

No worries.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeye (#3)

Quakers led the war against King George the III!

I'd sure like to read more about that. I know individual Quakers were active, but I thought they were disowned by their denomination. As for the Presbyterians and Lutherans, even the British recognized they were the leaders of the rebellion against Parliament.

King George is said to have characterized the American Revolution as "A Presbyterian War." Horace Walpole, addressing the English Parliament, said "There is no crying about it. Cousin America has run off with a Presbyterian parson and that is the end of it"

http://www.continentalline.org/articles/article.php?date=9504&article=950404

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-05-31   22:12:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: DeaconBenjamin (#15)

This ain't about Jesus ... it's about your family.

As every good fascist knows, the perpetuation of the fascist fraud depends, in the long run, on the training of fledglings in the faith. The dictators catch their conscripts young and discipline them to think in goose-step. Promises of reward for the faithful and ominous warnings about the dangers of nonconformity play their part in making apprentices firmly believe a mass of lies, half-lies, and nonsense. Doubt, even the tiniest wondering doubt, is the cardinal sin. There are few heretics.

noone222  posted on  2008-05-31   22:15:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeye (#1)

Not sure what the c-note reference meant, but that is a great video! Alex hit the nail on the head.

policestateusa.net/

PSUSA  posted on  2008-05-31   22:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: nobody (#13)

I suggest that we cut the shit and send some cash !!!

As every good fascist knows, the perpetuation of the fascist fraud depends, in the long run, on the training of fledglings in the faith. The dictators catch their conscripts young and discipline them to think in goose-step. Promises of reward for the faithful and ominous warnings about the dangers of nonconformity play their part in making apprentices firmly believe a mass of lies, half-lies, and nonsense. Doubt, even the tiniest wondering doubt, is the cardinal sin. There are few heretics.

noone222  posted on  2008-05-31   22:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: DeaconBenjamin (#15)

Excellent article, DB. You haven't posted it here, it seems.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:16:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: buckeye (#14) (Edited)

I think as long as people don't operate as if everything is predestined then things will be a lot less predictably bad for people. People are often rewarded for simulating randomness well, for being practically unpredictable. You might say their unpredictability or winning thereon is pre-destined. Pre-destined unpredictability. That's a bit self-contradictory.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:17:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: nobody (#20)

Counterattacks on AJ is that he's a Zionist or a Jesuit. What do you say about that? I think he's just trying to be as rational as possible.


Alex Jones Take on Being called a Zionist.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:21:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: buckeye (#21)

Counterattacks on AJ is that he's a Zionist or a Jesuit. What do you say about that?

Start thinking for yourself.

As every good fascist knows, the perpetuation of the fascist fraud depends, in the long run, on the training of fledglings in the faith. The dictators catch their conscripts young and discipline them to think in goose-step. Promises of reward for the faithful and ominous warnings about the dangers of nonconformity play their part in making apprentices firmly believe a mass of lies, half-lies, and nonsense. Doubt, even the tiniest wondering doubt, is the cardinal sin. There are few heretics.

noone222  posted on  2008-05-31   22:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: noone222 (#22)

I'm interested in nobody's specific opinion.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:33:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeye (#21)

It's antics with semantics, "zionism" and "jews" are two vaguely-defined sets of conditions always with significant amount of non-overlap and political ramifications. If one assumes for the sake of the same argument that despite all that the "jews" die or cease to be "jews" with the end, or abrupt turn of direction, of "zionism" as we all presently may know and love it, then what is it we are saying about the rest of mankind?

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:35:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeye (#5)

AJ's having a money bomb program at his infowars radio connection.

As every good fascist knows, the perpetuation of the fascist fraud depends, in the long run, on the training of fledglings in the faith. The dictators catch their conscripts young and discipline them to think in goose-step. Promises of reward for the faithful and ominous warnings about the dangers of nonconformity play their part in making apprentices firmly believe a mass of lies, half-lies, and nonsense. Doubt, even the tiniest wondering doubt, is the cardinal sin. There are few heretics.

noone222  posted on  2008-05-31   22:40:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: nobody (#24)

You fell into discussing the terms instead of the man. I personally think he's correct to avoid bringing up either term, because he'd lose a significant part of his audience, and he could be more readily identified by panderers as a talk show host monger of hate. There are some elements of his communication that are unavoidably going to be identified as hate speech, because to believe in what he is saying is to require the understanding that mass murderers are walking the face of the earth in the name of the USA, and that they want to kill billions of people, including Americans. But he manages to neatly avoid identifying them as a racial or religious groups, and instead discusses particular individuals.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeye (#26) (Edited)

It's just not a service to the unravelling of the confusion the terms create.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeye (#26)

You have it right ...

As every good fascist knows, the perpetuation of the fascist fraud depends, in the long run, on the training of fledglings in the faith. The dictators catch their conscripts young and discipline them to think in goose-step. Promises of reward for the faithful and ominous warnings about the dangers of nonconformity play their part in making apprentices firmly believe a mass of lies, half-lies, and nonsense. Doubt, even the tiniest wondering doubt, is the cardinal sin. There are few heretics.

noone222  posted on  2008-05-31   22:43:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: nobody (#20)

I think as long as people don't operate as if everything is predestined then things will be a lot less predictably bad for people.

The "we can't do anything because it is predestined" is a perverted understanding of the doctrine, often expressed by Christians who have no clue what the Bible really teaches and no interest in learning.

AJ is correct in most of his exegesis presented here. God's predestination is not a license to cower in fear or lick the boots of the Gestapo. Neither is it a license to start suicide bombing crowds of civilians in the name of God. It is a call to step out in faith to be a voice for the voiceless, to show the love of Christ, to fight evil and testify to the truth -- to the point of death, if God so wills.

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-05-31   22:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: nobody (#27)

I can interpret what you're saying as a criticism of his attackers: they conflate terms, when they should be discussing specifics. Each time he makes a mistake, or isn't specific enough, or is too specific, they have the opportunity to blame him. It's very hard to be 100% on target 100% of the time, especially when he has to stay on the air so much of the day.

The times I've listened to him I've gotten a lot out of it, and I've seen Terror Storm and End Game, and I've seen him interviewed on the subject of David Icke. He studies hard, communicates clearly, and tries to only appeal to baser motives in general terms rather than inciting hate for specific groups. This is a decent approach, very decent.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:46:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeye (#30) (Edited)

He appears to take the affirmative on an implicit proposition that the end of "zionism" means the death of "jews," whatever those two terms mean to him. To me that's an accusation of fatal flaw on the part of non-"jews" or these particular "jews." That is I believe the crypticly extremist aspect of his response.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: nobody (#31)

Now I understand what you're saying, thank you. If true, then I'd have to agree. This is a change of position for me, so I can understand why AJ hasn't gotten there yet. I don't know whether he realizes that it's really a matter of priorities. It's just not his problem, or ours.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   22:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: DeaconBenjamin (#29)

The "we can't do anything because it is predestined" is a perverted understanding of the doctrine

To me, it's as perverted as the doctrine of the rapture-nutters...and the result is just as wicked.

CadetD  posted on  2008-05-31   22:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: buckeye (#32) (Edited)

I've said it before, the MIC needs an engaging history and zionism provides it. There's no substitute. Much overlap with "zionism" and some history of some "jews" exists. It also just happens to be a mostly BS history self-told. It's a useful technique. Very unpredictable, in a predictable sort of way.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   22:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: nobody (#34)

We have an engaging history here, no need to go shopping for unconnected Talmudic stories.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   23:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: CadetD (#33)

The "we can't do anything because it is predestined" is a perverted understanding of the doctrine

To me, it's as perverted as the doctrine of the rapture-nutters...and the result is just as wicked.

Where you find one, you often find the other.

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-05-31   23:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: buckeye (#35)

We have an engaging history here

Hey I like it too, but one's mileage may vary.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   23:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: nobody (#37)

Yes, it can vary along ethnic and religious lines, in particular.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   23:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: buckeye (#38) (Edited)

I don't believe I'm approaching it from those perspectives. I'm actually just picking the parts that I like and it's otherwise mostly about most other people being seemingly stupid. Rags to riches stuff. Inventing the light-bulb and phonograph. Vulcanization of tire rubber. The Swamp Fox. Crazy old reading stuff like that.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   23:26:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: nobody (#39)

That seems to work.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   23:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: buckeye (#40) (Edited)

Wright Brothers, Goddard. All those lunatics. Moon landing. Jupiter probe, Mars rover. Hubble ST.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   23:35:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckeye (#40)

I'm tech oriented. Not a fan of wireless phones, though. That is where paranoid shit started really happening, IMO.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   23:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: nobody (#41)

Hear hear. Our American efforts, and our future. It's really limitless if we focus on what matters.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   23:41:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeye (#43) (Edited)

Technology is so double-edged and costly. That is the problem there. Of course it's all practically merely a design flaw, missing the right design. One that accounts for the intelligence of everyone.

nobody  posted on  2008-05-31   23:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: nobody (#44)

What boggles my mind is that we could get to the moon on a budget, using computers the size of what we use in home thermostats today, but now we can't even keep the space shuttle running.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-31   23:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: buckeye (#45) (Edited)

I'd like to see a better space telescope. I guess it's in the works. The Hubble ST was originally due to launch in 1986, but the challenger explosion delayed the launch until 1990, thus it missed the 1987 supernova. The telescope didn't work properly until 1993 when a lens design flaw was compensated using parts carried up by the shuttle. Fascinating stuff. Sometime wonder whether stars or planets are affected by being observed or involved in observing, in or certain circumstances, being not observed or not involved in observing. Crazy late-night tired rambling.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-01   0:31:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: nobody, christine, Jethro Tull, aristeides, rowdee, Peppa, Ferret Mike (#42)

I'm tech oriented. Not a fan of wireless phones, though. That is where paranoid shit started really happening, IMO.

I'm sure that you're familiar with the grim story of The Radium Dial Company.

When newly graduated high school girls with a measure of artistic skill were offered higher wages than Woolworth's or the movie theater or anywhere else in Ottawa, Illinois to paint the dials of clocks, airplane gauges and watches with glow-in-the-dark radium, they quite understandably pounced on the jobs.

They were taught to point their tiny brushes by using their mouths to twist the 8 or 9 camels' hair brushes in order to perfectly paint the dial faces, and as their skill improved and speed increased they were given raises, because that was The American Way.

Not only did the company convince those poor girls that radium was harmless, but some medical practitioners held that radium taken internally had actual health benefits.

Even the Radium Dial Company President Joseph Kelly spread it on his tomatoes in the belief that they grew fatter, tastier and juicer. (This despite his having moved from state to state to escape "nuisance" lawsuits that followed his employees' exposure to radium)

He died young, rich and stupid.

As did a tragically high number of the 1000 girls who painted (at the company's peak) 4300 dials a day for over 10 years from the early 1920's to the mid 1930's in Ottawa. Their graves will trigger Geiger counters now, and the few survivors had (or may still have if any are living) incredible health problems that will make you ill if you see the pictures. (Elephantiasis, Swiss cheesed bones and loss of their tongues, jaws or even their entire mouths)

Well, cell phones are to Americans now what radium was to those poor young women then. And when the bill comes due the deaths will likely require mass graves dug with boom shovels in order to keep up. (Unlike those who succumbed to radium poisoning the next victims will pose no health hazard to the environment, assuming that millions of decaying bodies don't poison the already irreversibly tainted aquifers. Hopefully, our govt won't sell the remains for "protein" to a starving China or Korea. You know, to forestall the inevitable collapse of social security a little longer)

My kids, grand and great grand kids will likely be among those who die needlessly and just too damned young, and I'm powerless to do a thing about it.

Those good people who are angry because neocons don't allow their own kids to go to Iraq or Afghanistan and eat or breathe depleted uranium need not worry. All of those children of power and privilege wouldn't be caught dead without state-of-the-art-24 gigahertz-(or higher)-brain-fryers (not that it will matter because of the ubiquitous presence of the menace) and they too will know that their own long dead, profiteering, whore parents sold them out when they're handed their grim test results.

And, keep in mind that the cell phone and WiFi manufacturers can't just suddenly start marketing "safe transmitters for all your needs" for the same reasons that cigarette companies can't market safe smokes. To do so would be to admit liability for that which they've denied all along, and the stockholders (and the bureaucrats and politicos they greased handsomely) wouldn't appreciate that.

Radium Dial Company

When my brother came for his last visit in 1995, he was well aware that his days were numbered because of his exposure to Agent Orange in Vietnam. But, he felt sorry for those poor girls when I showed him my VHS copy of RADIUM CITY

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-06-01   3:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: noone222 (#0)

Thanks for the reminder - two more bones in the infowarchest.

Lod  posted on  2008-06-01   5:52:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: lodwick (#48)

two more bones in the infowarchest.

Same here ... AJ has traction, determination and has single-handedly awakened more people, supported more "start-up" rebels like 9-11 truthers, and keeps running like a chunky little "Everready Bunny".

What's a C-Note anyway ? At least if we can put enough pressure on these scumbags they might have to come out from behind the curtain long enough for someone to draw a bead on em !

As every good fascist knows, the perpetuation of the fascist fraud depends, in the long run, on the training of fledglings in the faith. The dictators catch their conscripts young and discipline them to think in goose-step. Promises of reward for the faithful and ominous warnings about the dangers of nonconformity play their part in making apprentices firmly believe a mass of lies, half-lies, and nonsense. Doubt, even the tiniest wondering doubt, is the cardinal sin. There are few heretics.

noone222  posted on  2008-06-01   8:36:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: noone222 (#49)

What's a C-Note anyway ? At least if we can put enough pressure on these scumbags they might have to come out from behind the curtain long enough for someone to draw a bead on em !

Amen to that.

He's putting it all on the line - the gloves came off this past week, and I'm glad to be able to help a little bit.

Lod  posted on  2008-06-01   8:43:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: HOUNDDAWG (#47)

And, keep in mind that the cell phone and WiFi manufacturers can't just suddenly start marketing "safe transmitters for all your needs" for the same reasons that cigarette companies can't market safe smokes. To do so would be to admit liability for that which they've denied all along, and the stockholders (and the bureaucrats and politicos they greased handsomely) wouldn't appreciate that.

Bump that...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-06-01   10:05:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: buckeye (#45)

What boggles my mind is that we could get to the moon on a budget, using computers the size of what we use in home thermostats today, but now we can't even keep the space shuttle running.

1) The space shuttle uses computers the size of what we use for home thermostats.

2) Apollo program lasted approx. 6 years. Shuttles have been in use for what, 30?

3) Apollo were disposable -- made uniquely for each use. Shuttles have been reused for, again, 25-30 years.

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-06-01   10:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: buckeye (#30) (Edited)

his attackers: they conflate terms

In a sense he does seem to be lamenting the confusion, so I think it's noteworthy to reduce it.

Whether or not he's really interested in laying something out concrete and wide open to dissect and attack is something else. He's a man of common wide-spread elliptical speech. A populist. It's subjective. He doesn't want to be pedantic, would rather impress informally, artistically an impressionist. It's entertainment, controversy. It's a bit of a troll - a call me now thing.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-01   12:32:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: nobody (#53)

Perceptive. Hence the draw from people who want to encourage change. But I think easily defeated by those who control the main stream media. He's brought in as a clown by clowns (Geraldo on FOX for example).

buckeye  posted on  2008-06-01   16:03:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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