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Title: Clinton seeks to go after Obama superdelegates
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Published: Jun 2, 2008
Author: AP
Post Date: 2008-06-02 09:56:08 by christine
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Comments: 11

RAPID CITY, S.D. - As Barack Obama turns to concentrate on his general election challenge, his rival Hillary Rodham Clinton is mounting a last ditch campaign to stay relevant in what is left of the Democratic presidential contest.

The former first lady enters this week with an insurgent strategy not only to win over undecided superdelegates but to peel away Obama's support from those party leaders and elected officials who already have committed to back him for the nomination.

"One thing about superdelegates is that they can change their minds," she told reporters aboard her campaign plane Sunday night.

Obama displays no signs of worry, pivoting toward his new contest with Republican John McCain and responding to Clinton with a shrug. And some of Clinton's own backers are saying the time is near for her to fall in behind him.

Obama, campaigning in Mitchell, S.D., confidently predicted Clinton "is going to be a great asset when we go into November."

"Whatever differences Senator Clinton and I may have, those differences pale in comparison to the other side," he said.

South Dakota and Montana, which hold primaries on Tuesday, are the last Democratic nominating contests. Obama is favored in both states and he goes into them with 2,073 delegates, 45 away from the number now needed to secure the nomination. Clinton has 1,915.5 delegates.

Obama has made up most of the ground he lost Saturday when the national party's rules committee agreed to reinstate delegates from Michigan and Florida. The party had initially refused to seat the delegates as punishment for scheduling their contests in violation of party rules.

With 31 delegates at stake Tuesday, Obama could close the gap further and cue undecided superdelegates to come to his side. He picked up two more on Monday, Nancy DiNardo, chairwoman of the Connecticut Democratic Party, and Virginia's Jerome Wiley Segovia, a Democratic National Committee member.

But Clinton argues she now leads in the popular vote — a debatable point given that she relies on Michigan and Florida outcomes. None of the candidates campaigned in either state and Obama received no votes in Michigan because he removed his name from the ballot. Clinton also continues to present herself as better able to confront McCain in the fall.

She and her campaign's national chairman, Terry McAuliffe, made it clear that Obama's supporters were now fair to pluck with those arguments.

Clinton invited Virgin Islands superdelegate Kevin Rodriguez, a recent convert, to travel with her to South Dakota where she planned to campaign Monday. Rodriguez had initially supported Clinton, switched to Obama, and recently returned to her camp.

"This has been such an intense process," she said, "I don't think there has been a lot of time for reflection. It's only now that we're finishing these contests that people are going to actually reflect on who is our stronger candidate."

Asked Monday on CBS' "The Early Show" if Clinton would take her campaign to the convention, McAuliffe said again they "would keep all of their options open."

Cinton's decision, if prolonged, is not likely to sit well with party leaders and some of her own supporters. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., have both called on the contest to end shortly after the final primaries.

Tom Vilsack, the former Iowa governor and a national co-chairman of Clinton's campaign, said Sunday: "It does appear to be pretty clear that Senator Obama is going to be the nominee. After Tuesday's contests, she needs to acknowledge that he's going to be the nominee and quickly get behind him."

Eager to make amends for avoiding Michigan's primary and build general election support, Obama on Monday planned to hold a town hall meeting on the economy in Troy, Mich.

Clinton, meanwhile, said she was still contemplating whether to challenge the decision by the Democratic Party's rules committee to split the Michigan delegates 69-59 in her favor. Each delegate would have a half vote. The agreement granted Obama 55 uncommitted Michigan delegates and four who would have been assigned to Clinton based on the state's results.

McAuliffe Sunday night called the panel's judgment "outrageous."

"People are angry," he said. "This does not unify our party, this crazy, cockamamie thing they came up with in Michigan."

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Obama displays no signs of worry, pivoting toward his new contest with Republican John McCain and responding to Clinton with a shrug.

Obviously he has been told by the PTB he will win. That's why he is so careless to not even remember the name of the cities he is currently speaking in. If McCain did this they would question whether he was going senile or had Alzheimer's, when Obama does it doesn't even make the news. If it wasn't for YouTube most wouldn't know much about how dumb Obama really is.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-02   11:06:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: RickyJ (#1)

If he truly was dumb, he wouldn't of been able to graduate top Ivy league schools with their highest academic honors. He would not of been able to analyze the primary and caucus process spotting where and how they could take it from the anticipated shoe in for the slot.

If you think mis-spoken words denote a lack of intelligence, especially in the biased and unscientific manner you work with here, you must think Reagan was the biggest dummy on the planet. He mis-spoke so many times, books like, "Reagan's Reign of Error' were very popular.

No, you only speak as a rightie and a racist here, and thus your fussbudget little act amounts to little or nothing.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-02   11:24:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

Obama's not dumb. He's just not an independent thinker.

"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"

angle  posted on  2008-06-02   12:06:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: angle (#3)

My point here is that RickyJ's post is so transparently ridiculous it is almost embarrassing to show how baldly he embarrasses himself.

As for your comment concerning independent thought, did you make this point about how Reagan was controlled by committee much as Bush now obviously is? Just curious, mind you.

You know it sure is an easy charge to make, and I've look everywhere and found no basis yet to feel Obama is better or worse then other -- any other -- American politician in that regard.

But if unimpeachable evidence of undue influence appear, I would never give that a free pass. People's political coloring in contrast to that of the politician they are commenting on usually determines whether or not a charge of others controlling the official in question. That is something I always keep in mind when I hear arguments like yours'.

I see Obama as clearly a man with excellent leadership skills with an intuitive understanding as well as having the proper foundation of education and experience for this job.

In any event, regardless of this issue -- or any answer you may have to my question concerning Reagan -- He will win the nomination and be elected to the presidency in November.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-02   12:50:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ferret Mike (#4)

did you make this point about how Reagan was controlled by committee much as Bush now obviously is? Just curious, mind you.

Never have been a Reagan supporter or admirer. Always thought he was anti- American constitution.

to feel Obama is better or worse then other -- any other -- American politician in that regard.

He's worse in that he's running for president, but is still just another bullshitting lying lawyer out for his own interests pretending to be something else.

We'll see what happens in November.

"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"

angle  posted on  2008-06-02   12:56:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret Mike (#4)

O baba.

"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"

angle  posted on  2008-06-02   12:57:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: angle (#5)

I am amused you call me a main streamer because I don't disassociate myself from the process. I spent over a decade zealously eschewing all that was evil about Babylon cultures as I could.

But it created a mindset in me where I was not getting stuff done in the "real world" (the world much like that of the 'Matrix') so I go through the motions that keep me tied in.

I decided in the mid nineties for example to always keep communicating with conservatives in forums like these as well as the other places I go and others I talk to, So, if I were not smart enough to be communicative and go through certain day to day activities, things don't work well and I get in a rut just running with the choir and doing basic Eugene Anarchist things. ;-)

Just to give you a little reality check about how I view things and what activities politically and socially I do.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-02   16:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine. all (#0)

Time to break out those FBI files...

Lod  posted on  2008-06-02   16:51:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

But it created a mindset in me where I was not getting stuff done in the "real world" (the world much like that of the 'Matrix') so I go through the motions that keep me tied in.

i can relate to that.

christine  posted on  2008-06-02   16:54:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#9)

"i can relate to that."

Thanks for the affirmation. I notice Noriega is within 4 percentage points of his Bushbot Republican incombant opponent.

Many Republicans seemed not to notice that the three lost Congressional special elections went to anti-war advocates. They just took comfort in noting these men were conservative Democrats that created problems with the leadership of the Democratic Party. Noriega is also anti-war, and I wonder if this will mean he will win in Texas this November.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-02   17:03:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

I am amused you call me a main streamer

Puzzling, I don't ever remember considering you a mainstreamer. Do you have me confused with someone else?

I've been reading your posts for years. I think you can safely be described as an "ultra leftist" specializing in eco concerns with a dash of anarchy-rebellion and the character of walking the talk.

I enjoy your views and your stories and agree with some things. You describe yourself precisely as I would imagine and we're the same generation.

Obama I don't agree with.

"HOLODOMOR" is Ukrainian word for "FAMINE-GENOCIDE"

angle  posted on  2008-06-03   9:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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