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Title: Ahmadinejad says Israel will soon disappear
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URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/article.ph ... 124328.f6eyi8y1&show_article=1
Published: Jun 2, 2008
Author: AFP
Post Date: 2008-06-02 11:09:18 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 418
Comments: 15

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad predicted on Monday that Muslims would uproot "satanic powers" and repeated his controversial belief that Israel will soon disappear, the Mehr news agency reported. "I must announce that the Zionist regime (Israel), with a 60-year record of genocide, plunder, invasion and betrayal is about to die and will soon be erased from the geographical scene," he said.

"Today, the time for the fall of the satanic power of the United States has come and the countdown to the annihilation of the emperor of power and wealth has started."

Since taking the presidency in August 2005, Ahmadinejad has repeatedly provoked international outrage by predicting Israel is doomed to disappear.

"I tell you that with the unity and awareness of all the Islamic countries all the satanic powers will soon be destroyed," he said to a group of foreign visitors ahead of the 19th anniversary of the death of revolutionary leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.

Ahmadinejad also again expressed his apocalyptic vision that tyranny in the world be abolished by the return to earth of the Mahdi, the 12th imam of Shiite Islam, alongside great religious figures including Jesus Christ.

"With the appearance of the promised saviour... and his companions such as Jesus Christ, tyranny will be soon be eradicated in the world."

Ahmadinejad has always been a devotee of the Mahdi, who Shiites believe disappeared more than a thousand years ago and who will return one day to usher in a new era of peace and harmony.

His emphasis on the Mahdi has been a cause of controversy inside Iran with critics saying he would be better solving bread-and-butter domestic problems rather than talking about Iran's divine responsibility.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Ahmadinejad has always been a devotee of the Mahdi, who Shiites believe disappeared more than a thousand years ago and who will return one day to usher in a new era of peace and harmony.

Yeah, that is a little nutty to believe in that. But it is nothing compared to what Jews believe in, the Talmud. Believing they are the only true humans makes them much worse than even Nazis. Nazis believed they were superior to other races, but not that other races weren't human.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-02   11:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

return to earth of the Mahdi

More bleeding religious mumbojumbo superstitious dogma.

Keep talking, Ahmie, all you're doing is setting the stage for no sympathy from the American public.

Keep pushing that red button.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-06-02   13:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

the unity and awareness of all the Islamic countries

What a crock.

In Indonesia the jihadi nutcakes want to massacre (declare war) on the Ahmadiya sect, who main theological difference with the mainstream Sunni and Shia is that Mo wasn't the last prophet.

Islamic unity, my arse.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-06-02   13:55:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#0)

"I must announce that the Zionist regime (Israel), with a 60-year record of genocide, plunder, invasion and betrayal is about to die and will soon be erased from the geographical scene," he said.

I know it is true Mahmoud Ahmadinejad spoke these words because I read it on the internet.

I believed it when Osama bin Laden released a video right before the Presidential election saying in effect, if you hate Osama bin Laden, vote for George Bush.

honway  posted on  2008-06-02   14:04:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#0)

His emphasis on the Mahdi has been a cause of controversy inside Iran with critics saying he would be better solving bread-and-butter domestic problems rather than talking about Iran's divine responsibility.

First off, Ahmadinejad has no power over Iran's foreign policy nor does he have control of Iran's military. He poses zero threat to Israel in reality.

Secondly, the Iranian people themselves don't take Ahmadinejad's public rants too seriously so why do we?

Thirdly is this yet another provocative mis-translation of what Ahmadinejad actually said?

Move on, nothing new here.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-06-02   14:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: swarthyguy (#3)

I guess you can file this under if you say the same thing often enough people will think its true.....Ahmadinejad to the best of my understanding has never called for the destruction of Israel rather he calls for the destruction of Zionism which is not a religion or a country it is a political ideology ...ditto for the Zionists in America

robnoel  posted on  2008-06-02   15:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: swarthyguy (#2) (Edited)

return to earth of the Mahdi More bleeding religious mumbojumbo superstitious dogma.

Keep talking, Ahmie, all you're doing is setting the stage for no sympathy from the American public.

Keep pushing that red button.

It is a lot of mumbo-jumbo. But it isn't any worse than the raving mad crap about "second comings" and "raptures" that we get from John Hagee or Pat Robertson, who have as much influence in American politics as the Mullahs that Ahmedinijad takes his orders from.

The difference is that we live in a first world country where people ought to know better.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-06-02   15:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robnoel (#6)

the destruction of Zionism

That's sorta a lawyers argument since Israel's impetus came from the Zionists.

Be that as it may, I bet a survey of Americans would show most believe that Ahmie made these statements, and that's what counts.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-06-02   15:20:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: swarthyguy (#8)

Be that as it may, I bet a survey of Americans would show most believe that Ahmie made these statements, and that's what counts.

Actually what counts is that Americans by a significant majority ( 6 out of 10) in a recent Gallup poll, whose results were released today, said they wanted the US government to open up communications with Iran and specifically they wanted high level discussions to take place between the President of the USA and the President of Iran. The neocons are on suicide watch as we speak.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-06-02   15:38:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robnoel, honway (#6)

"I must announce that the Zionist regime (Israel), with a 60-year record of genocide, plunder, invasion and betrayal is about to die and will soon be erased from the geographical scene," he said.

if this is to be believed, that it's a recent comment, he makes the distinction here too.

christine  posted on  2008-06-02   16:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker, Itisa1mosttoolate, all (#0)

Is he an Illuminati/Satanist plant?


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-02   16:39:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: wudidiz (#11)

from the article you linked. hmmmmm...

Empowered by the central banking cartel, the Illuminati Order has the resources to infiltrate both sides of every conflict and steer them according to the New World Order agenda. They call this a "dialectical process." They were on both sides of both world wars, the Cold War, Korea and Vietnam.

Iran's nuclear ambitions are merely a pretext. The real object is to degrade both the US and Iran so citizens will forfeit political, economic and spiritual rights to Illuminati banker "world government."

As you know, in 1871 Albert Pike, the Grand Commander of US Freemasonry wrote a letter to Giuseppe Mazzini, his European counterpart, foretelling three world wars. He was correct about the first two.

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" [agents] of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists [i.e. Americans] and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam and political Zionism mutually destroy each other."

christine  posted on  2008-06-02   16:43:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: christine (#0)

Ahmadinejad says Israel will soon disappear

Gee whiz, that guy is SUCH a tease.

Esso  posted on  2008-06-02   18:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: christine. all (#12)

...The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam and political Zionism mutually destroy each other."

Excuse me, while I try to get head around this sentence.

What do it mean?

Lod  posted on  2008-06-02   18:13:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lodwick, christine (#14)

...The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam and political Zionism mutually destroy each other."

Excuse me, while I try to get head around this sentence.

What do it mean?

According to the Zionist Armageddon Plot, George Bush will star as Gog, of the land of Magog [i.e., America, according to the plot]. Bush has been given instructions to "defend" [ i.e., invade] Israel with US troops [most of whom are brainwashed "Christian" (political) Zionists]. http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=73722 ]

The Alex Rothschild/Judeo-British-Israel "Scepter of Judah" part of the plot picks up there. Once Bush and US Troops are in Israel, Iran will probably be bombed to enflame the Iranians to invade Israel, and the US troops and Iranian troops will kill each other off for the Banksters. Israel doesn't fight wars; they get others to fight and die for them: "Thanks to the terrible power of our International Banks, we have forced the Christians into wars without number. Wars have a special value for Jews, since Christians massacre each other and make more room for us Jews. Wars are the Jews' Harvest: The Jew banks grow fat on Christian wars. Over 100-million Christians have been swept off the face of the earth by wars, and the end is not yet." (Rabbi Reichorn, speaking at the funeral of Grand Rabbi Simeon Ben-Iudah...)" :

Judeo-British-Israel/Scepter of Judah Armageddon Plot:

"52 Themes: Restoration of Davidic Zionism

SCEPTER OF JUDAH

Themes 27-39

WAR TERMINATION

JEREMIAH 25:31 PSALMS 46:8,9 DANIEL 2:44

1-27 Ezekiel's Prophecies: Regional War, the Powers Invading Israel..."

[Here are the links as they gave them....Ezekiel 38 and 39 are printed below. These links almost look as if "political Zionists" may even include the Israeli Jews, or at least the ones who do not have the "Mark" on their forehead.]:

"Ezekiel 9:2-11 [now THIS is interesting: "Mark" http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+9:2-11 ] Ezekiel 13:3-16 [ http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+13:3-16 ] Ezekiel 21:9-14 [ http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+21:9-14 ] Ezekiel 26:15-21 [this one might be more of their plan for us: "...When I make you a desolate city, like cities no longer inhabited, and when I bring the ocean depths over you and its vast waters cover you, 20....." Tsunami waves for both coasts caused by off-shore nukes or HAARP. OR, they MIGHT even be talking about England! as the Queen is buying up property around Denver because they think England may not make it through the coming "earth changes", which they are causing with HAARP.] Ezekiel 32:23 [ http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+32:23 ] Ezekiel 38:2-22 Ezekiel 39:1......."

http://scepterofjudah.net/SJ52Themeslisted/themes27-39.html

Gog [Bush] and Magog [America] and Iran [PERSIA] are mentioned here, Gog invading Israel with Iran and many others:

Ezekiel 38:2-22 (New International Version) New International Version (NIV)

Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society [NIV at IBS] [International Bible Society] [NIV at Zondervan] [Zondervan]

2 "Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of [a] Meshech and Tubal; prophesy against him 3 and say: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of [b] Meshech and Tubal. 4 I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army—your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. 5 Persia, Cush [c] and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets, 6 also Gomer with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops—the many nations with you.

7 " 'Get ready; be prepared, you and all the hordes gathered about you, and take command of them. 8 After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety. 9 You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm; you will be like a cloud covering the land.

10 " 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme. 11 You will say, "I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people—all of them living without walls and without gates and bars. 12 I will plunder and loot and turn my hand against the resettled ruins and the people gathered from the nations, rich in livestock and goods, living at the center of the land." 13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all her villages [d] will say to you, "Have you come to plunder? Have you gathered your hordes to loot, to carry off silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods and to seize much plunder?" '

14 "Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: In that day, when my people Israel are living in safety, will you not take notice of it? 15 You will come from your place in the far north, you and many nations with you, all of them riding on horses, a great horde, a mighty army. 16 You will advance against my people Israel like a cloud that covers the land. In days to come, O Gog, I will bring you against my land, so that the nations may know me when I show myself holy through you before their eyes.

17 " 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Are you not the one I spoke of in former days by my servants the prophets of Israel? At that time they prophesied for years that I would bring you against them. 18 This is what will happen in that day: When Gog attacks the land of Israel, my hot anger will be aroused, declares the Sovereign LORD. 19 In my zeal and fiery wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20 The fish of the sea, the birds of the air, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble at my presence. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground. 21 I will summon a sword against Gog on all my mountains, declares the Sovereign LORD. Every man's sword will be against his brother. 22 I will execute judgment upon him with plague and bloodshed; I will pour down torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on him and on his troops and on the many nations with him.

Footnotes:

a. 1. Ezekiel 38:2 Or the prince of Rosh ,

b. 2. Ezekiel 38:3 Or Gog, prince of Rosh,

c. 3. Ezekiel 38:5 CUSH, That is, the upper Nile region [note: my study Bible says "Arab nations"

d. 4. Ezekiel 38:13 Or her strong lions

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+38:2-22

Ezekiel 39:1-8 (New International Version) New International Version (NIV)

Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society [NIV at IBS] [International Bible Society] [NIV at Zondervan] [Zondervan]

Ezekiel 39

1 "Son of man, prophesy against Gog and say: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of [a] Meshech and Tubal. 2 I will turn you around and drag you along. I will bring you from the far north and send you against the mountains of Israel. 3 Then I will strike your bow from your left hand and make your arrows drop from your right hand. 4 On the mountains of Israel you will fall, you and all your troops and the nations with you. I will give you as food to all kinds of carrion birds and to the wild animals. 5 You will fall in the open field, for I have spoken, declares the Sovereign LORD. 6 I will send fire on Magog [AMERICA] and on those who live in safety in the coastlands, and they will know that I am the LORD.

7 " 'I will make known my holy name among my people Israel. I will no longer let my holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I the LORD am the Holy One in Israel. 8 It is coming! It will surely take place, declares the Sovereign LORD. This is the day I have spoken of.

Footnotes:

1. Ezekiel 39:1 Or Gog, prince of Rosh,

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+39:1-8

The truth of the matter is that Christians and Christian America are Israel, and Gog and Magog are the "Jews", the barbarians inside the gates, and all their plans are aimed at the destruction of Christian America at the hands of all the hordes they have invited to invade us. It doesn't sound like their own brethren, whom Pat Robertson and Hagee have worked so hard to transport to Israel, will fare much better than Christians in their little plot, and in fact, the next "prophecies" they give, includes this:

Zec 13:7 ¶ Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man [that is] my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.

Zec 13:8 And it shall come to pass, [that] in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off [and] die; but the third shall be left therein.

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Zec/Zec013.html#8

How "brotherly".

"Empowered by the central banking cartel, the Illuminati Order has the resources to infiltrate both sides of every conflict and steer them according to the New World Order agenda. They call this a "dialectical process."

Psalm 2. Why do the Heathen rage [plot, conspire].....

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-03   15:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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