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Title: Pat Buchanan banters about Hagee and 9/11 Truthers with Rolling Stone writer on MSNBC
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KciRZBuAqSE
Published: Jun 3, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-06-03 16:16:11 by Artisan
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Views: 1054
Comments: 32

Pat Buchanan & Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone banter about zionist pastor john hagee and 9/11 truthers on MSNBC's 'morning joe' program. Taibbi refers to what he says are truthers 'nutty escapist fantasies'; the MSNBC anchors agree, using the terms 'wackjobs' & 'the great derangement'. Buchanan chimes in at the end and says the government does not provide answers.

This is a typical frivilous banter segment with a statist writer promoting his new book; Buchanan seems to try to delve deeper into the 9/11 conspiracy issue with Tabibbi, mentioning controlled demolition and 'building 5' but is interupted by the female anchor.

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#1. To: Artisan (#0)

ugh. matthews "according to the whackjobs..."

christine  posted on  2008-06-03   16:39:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#1)

I've never seen buchanan address the issue of 911 truth before, have you? Although i suspect the coward knows completely all about it.

I once saw a very interesting interview from years ago with buchanan interviewing Larry McDonald and discussing jonn birchers and the conspiracy for world govt, shortly before Mcdonalds supposed death,. I suspect buchanan knows the truth but is a statist at heart.

Artisan  posted on  2008-06-03   16:47:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Artisan (#4)

I suspect buchanan knows the truth but is a statist at heart

I think he's a Knight of Malta?

CadetD  posted on  2008-06-03   16:57:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: CadetD (#6)

That's interesting, i had not been familiar with them. What's your take on that group? I myself am Catholic and often refer to the Church's history of official (including current) condemnations of freemasonry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta

The Sovereign Military Order of Malta is a sovereign subject of international law.[1]

After the conquest of Jerusalem in 1099 during the First Crusade, it became a Catholic military order under its own charter. Following the loss of Christian territory in the Holy Land, the Order operated from Rhodes (1310-1523), and later from Malta (1530-1798), over which it was sovereign.

Although this state came to an end with the ejection of the Order from Malta by Napoleon, the Order as such survived. It retains its claims of sovereignty under international law and has been granted permanent observer status at the United Nations. SMOM is considered to be the main successor to the medieval Knights Hospitaller.

Today the order has 12,500 members, 80,000 permanent volunteers, 13,000 medical personnel including doctors, nurses, auxiliaries and paramedics. The goal is to assist the elderly, the handicapped, refugees, children, the homeless, those with terminal illness and leprosy in five continents of the world, without distinction of race or religion.[2] Through its worldwide relief corps, Malteser International, the Order is also engaged to aid victims of natural disasters, epidemics and armed conflicts. The full official name is Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of St. John of Jerusalem of Rhodes and of Malta (in English) or Sovrano Militare Ordine Ospedaliero di San Giovanni di Gerusalemme di Rodi e di Malta (in Italian).

With its unique history and unusual present circumstances the exact status of the Order has been the subject of debate: it claims to be a traditional example of a sovereign entity other than a state. ....

.... The United Nations does not classify it as a "non-member state" but as one of the "entities and intergovernmental organizations having received a standing invitation to participate as observers".

... Professor Rebecca Wallace, writing more recently in her book "International Law", explains that a sovereign entity does not have to be a country, and that SMOM is an example of this. This position appears to be supported by the number of nations extending diplomatic relations to the Order, which more than doubled from 49 to 100 in the 20 year period to 2008.[4] The Holy See in 1953 proclaimed "in the Lord's name" that the Order of Malta was only a "functional sovereignty" - due to the fact that it did not have all that pertained to true sovereignty, such as territory.

Artisan  posted on  2008-06-03   17:14:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Artisan (#7)

That's interesting, i had not been familiar with them. What's your take on that group?

My take on groups such as the Knights of Malta will seem over-simplified, but here goes...These elites in control seem to have a need, or even be required somehow, to tell the public exactly what's going on. Sort of like they can later, after having been "discovered", say "we told you so!, but you chose not to do anything about it"--putting the onus on the victims. And, having all these intellectuals, like Buchanan and Schlafly and Dobbs, spewing constantly over troublesome topics serves to perpetuate the dialectic confusion. I believe Benito Mussolini was the first to recognize the Vatican's officialdom. After all, the Pope has called for a New world Order.

CadetD  posted on  2008-06-03   21:10:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#9. To: CadetD, Artisan (#8)

How do we separate the coincidences and stretched interpretations from the truth, correctly?

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