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Title: Jim Webb, Iron Intellectual
Source: The Trail
URL Source: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the- ... im_webb_iron_intellectual.html
Published: Jun 6, 2008
Author: Alec MacGillis
Post Date: 2008-06-06 19:33:05 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 2953
Comments: 219

Barack Obama

Jim Webb, Iron Intellectual

By Alec MacGillis
Lost in the hubbub over Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton's secret rendezvous at Sen. Dianne Feinstein's house last night were some of the intriguing ramifications of Obama's previous appointment, a rally at the Nissan Pavilion in the Northern Virginia exurbs that was also attended by Sen. Jim Webb and Gov. Tim Kaine.

Both men, of course, have been mentioned as possible running mates for Obama -- and, in the eyes of the veep-obsessed press, that made the event into an audition of sorts.


This was particularly true for Webb, who, unlike Kaine, was making his first appearance in the role of an Obama booster, having stayed neutral throughout the primaries. One thing quickly became clear, as the red-haired senator introduced the presumptive nominee: those pushing for Webb because they think he will bring muscular, regular-guy credentials -- Marine hero in Vietnam, former Navy secretary, Scots-Irish roots -- may need to think again.

There's no doubt that Webb is tough. He's stood up to President Bush at a White House reception and has a concealed-carry gun license. But he also sees himself as a serious, free-thinking intellectual. He has a bevy of fairly well-regarded books under his belt and prides himself on writing his own stump material.

If yesterday's joint appearance was any indication, far from canceling out Obama's Ivy League pedigree, an Obama-Webb ticket could be one of the most literary pairings ever to take the field.

Whereas Kaine served up a fairly conventional Democratic rallying cry, Webb embarked on a meditation on American history and self-conception over the past forty years. He noted that it was the 40th anniversary not only of Bobby Kennedy's assassination but also of his own swearing into the Marine Corps. He took the audience back to that "tumultuous year" -- the assassinations, the Tet offensive, the riots in which "the African American sections in many American cities had erupted with frequent violence" and the Democratic convention in Chicago.

Webb said he was giving the history tour "because we all know that the United States of 2008 is also a troubled and divided place in a quiet but equally disturbing way."

"The tumult of those earlier years," he went on, "convinced me and others that we needed to learn our love our country more deeply for all its ugly flaws, because it required us to sit back and reconsider the beliefs and values that had once been handed to us as our national legacy. We went through an intellectual challenge in justifying America's uniqueness on fresh grounds and this caused us to believe all the more strongly that ... that this was the moral beacon of the world, that for all or problems we had the will to solve them, the patience to undergo the painful debates that might identify solutions ... and the constitutional system that will provide remedies and thus hold us together as a people."

After a bit more in this vein, Webb got around to introducing Obama -- whom he praised, before all else, not for his toughness or determination, the qualities one might expect the ex-Marine to highlight, but for his brains.

"He is man of great intellect," said Webb. He then drove home the praise by punctuating the final sentence of his introduction with a loud fist pound on the podium.

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#1. To: All (#0)

I can see a big problem with an Obama/Webb ticket. They would find it difficult to get the stupids vote. The stupids are likely to vote for McCain or to stay home and watch Cialis infomercials.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-06-06   19:35:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Arator, Hate Speech lovers (#1)

Senator Webb, another defender of our 1st Amendment. Quite a guy!

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Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-06   20:03:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

This is it? Is this all you got?

It looks like an embarrassment of... what's the opposite of 'riches' in this context? Penury? You mean you don't have nothing on his supermarket cashier's boyfriend? Maybe he's burning Arab-supplied gasoline in his car? Any moonshinig convictions on his grandpa's record?

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-06-06   20:17:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#3)

This is it? Is this all you got?

Signing on to legislation that criminalizes speech might be fine for the feckless Obamaites like you, and your freakish pals, but real Americans toss scum like Webb into the socialist waste basket where he belongs.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-06   20:27:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

Say it again: "there's not one iota of difference between Obama/Webb and Hilly/Steinheim, McCain/Condi or W/Cheney. They are all the same and it makes no difference who gets the job.

Yes? Say it again, please. It's so entertaining. It's dumb, of course but it's funny too.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-06-06   20:53:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Jethro Tull (#10) (Edited)

Say it again: "there's not one iota of difference between Obama/Webb and Hilly/Steinheim, McCain/Condi or W/Cheney. They are all the same and it makes no difference who gets the job.

Yes? Say it again, please. It's so entertaining. It's dumb, of course but it's funny too.

LOL.

I'm with you, avrwc. JT wasn't always so dumb. Maybe he just plays dumb to provoke. I think deep down he knows better.

He's attracted a posse that's stump stupid, though. Too bad their candidate (Hillary I, Queen of Appalachia and Contessa of San Juan) didn't come through for them. And, now, a black man shall rule over them, one possessing exceptional intellect and political skills, and the prospect positively terrifies them. In this way, the stars have aligned so that the very universe mocks and laughs at their puerile and retrograde pigmentation-based pretensions.

Arator  posted on  2008-06-06   22:39:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Arator (#19) (Edited)

And, now, a black man shall rule over them, one possessing exceptional intellect and political skills, and the prospect positively terrifies them. In this way, the stars have aligned so that very universe mocks and laughs at their puerile and retrograde pigmentation-based pretensions.

that's a crock. how many times have we posted it's not about his color, it's about his radical leftist, socialist politics and the fact that he, like hillary and mccain is OWNED.

how many times have we posted and you've not comprehended that if this were a Shelby Steele, Larry Elder, Reverend Jesse Petersen, Walter Williams (aside from the fact that he has subbed for limbaugh), Ward Connerly, or any other conservative or libertarian black that isn't establishment that they would have our support?

further, if obama had Ron Paul's politics or if Ron Paul were black, either one would have our support.

christine  posted on  2008-06-07   0:03:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine (#31) (Edited)

further, if obama had Ron Paul's politics or if Ron Paul were black, either one would have our support.

I know I posted with a rather broad brush, but it was directed at only a select few posters here, not all anti-Obama folk. I appreciate your skepticism and reluctance to support any major party candidate. But it has also been apparent than many here actually hoped Hillary would beat Obama (or still hope that he will lose to McCain in the general). I can't think of any rational reason why anyone would favor Hillary or McCain to Obama. That leaves only irrational ones (like racism).

Arator  posted on  2008-06-07   1:33:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Arator (#33) (Edited)

I can't think of any rational reason why anyone would favor Hillary or McCain to Obama.

That's because you are not rational. Obama is a racist, a habitual liar, and a elitist. He would destroy health care in this nation, attack Pakistan, which has done nothing to us, and destroy race relations in this nation with his anti-White bigotry, which he has made known through his book, his choice of wife, and the church he has been going to for 20 years. On top of all that Obama is a mental midget which he shows on a daily basis. The guy makes Bush look smart and that is no small accomplishment. There is no rational reason to choose him over either McCain or Hillary. None whatsoever.

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-07   2:28:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: RickyJ (#41)

Ricky Retardo can't seem to get it through his thick skull plate that one of them black folks is much smarter the he is.

Obama graduated with a J.D. magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991 Ricky. He also served as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review and was elected to the Senate in a landslide with 70 percent of the vote after effective and successful service to his community his entire life after receiving his impeccable academic credentials.

You are a fuckwit who repeats garbage in the face of facts, hoping that if you throw them long enough your lies will stick to something.

What aa absolute idiot you are, one so stupid you are more amusing to watch then irritating, as it is you you hurt here, not Barack Obama.

It is your own words and posts that erode your credibility, bubba. Sure sucks to be you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-07   8:37:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Ferret Mike (#49)

What does the man's formal education have to do with the socialism he espouses? FDR came to us after completing a Harvard and a Columbia Law School indoctrination. Wilson, a professor at Princeton, tried to stick the League of Nations down our gullet. Don't think for a minute the elitists among us have our best interest in mind.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-07   8:50:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Jethro Tull (#53)

"What does the man's formal education have to do with the socialism he espouses?"

You are a responsible poster with whom discourse and debate moves along a logical line and who allows it to evolve. Ricky Retardo is a fuckwit who repeats the same crap over and over trying desperately to make it true by trying to wear down those debunking his verbal patter.

I cite the stark, black and white, and incontrovertible evidence like extremely high accomplishment academically because it is begged by Ricky's fuckwit style.

If I bore you with repetitions the obvious, my apologies. But as long as he posts lies, I will debunk them.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-07   8:56:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Ferret Mike (#58)

Thank you Mike, and I like you too. But back to the question at hand, what legislation has Obama advanced that places America First?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-07   9:11:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Jethro Tull (#67)

Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill of 2007

Obama voted yes

Highlights:

-States that most American forces will be redeployed from Iraq by March 31, 2008, with a limited number of troops remaining to protect American personnel and infrastructure, to train and equip Iraqi forces, and to conduct targeted counter-terrorism operations (Title I (Chapter 3 (Sec 1315 (b))))

-Withholds $1.41 billion from the Economic Support Fund and International Narcotics Control and Law Enforcement Fund appropriations made in this bill if the Iraqi government does not meet certain benchmarks, including establishing a system to 33;equitably33; share oil revenues among all Iraqis, implementing a system and schedule for provincial and local elections, and executing a plan to spend $10 billion in reconstruction projects on an 33;equitable33; basis (Title I (Chapter 11 (Sec 1710 (a))))

-Requires certain federal agencies to develop plans to minimize the use of no-bid and cost-reimbursement contracts (Title II (Chapter 6 (Sec 204 (e (2)))))

-Raises the federal minimum wage to $5.85 per hour starting the 60th day after enactment of this Act, $6.55 per hour one year after that 60th day, and $7.25 per hour two years after that 60th day (Title V (Sec 501))

-Creates additional tax credits for businesses and waives the alternative minimum tax limits on the work opportunity credit and the credit for taxes paid with respect to employee cash tips (Title V (Sec 510-515))

-$969 million for the Department of Agriculture, including $557 million for the war on terror, and $412 million for Katrina recovery efforts and other purposes

-$615.69 million for the Department of Justice, including $445.69 million for the war on terror, and $170 million for Katrina recovery efforts and other purposes

-$98.52 billion for the Department of Defense, including $93.68 billion for the war on terror and $4.85 billion for Katrina recovery efforts and other purposes

-$63 million for the Department of Energy for its efforts in the war on terror

-$6.31 billion for the Department of Homeland Security, including $2 billion for the war on terror and $4.31 billion for Katrina recovery efforts and other purposes

-$5.77 billion for the Department of State for its efforts in the war on terror

-$221.9 million for the Department of Commerce for Katrina recovery efforts and other purposes

-$146.19 million for the Department of Interior for Katrina recovery efforts and other purposes

-$1.53 billion for the Department of Health and Human Services for Katrina recovery efforts and other purposes

-$57.41 million for the Department of Education for Katrina recovery efforts and other purposes

-$1.77 billion for the Department of Veterans Affairs

-$75 million for the Department of Transportation

Vetoed by President.

Supplemental Appropriations for the Department of Defense and Timeline for Withdrawal from Iraq

Obama voted YES

-States that no person in the custody of the U.S. Government can be subject to any interrogation methods not listed in the U.S. Army Field Manual FM2-22.3 Human Intelligence Collector Operations (Sec. 102).

-Sets a goal for the President to begin redeploying U.S. Armed Forces from Iraq within 30 days after enactment of this act, starting with units that have been deployed over 365 days, to be completed no later than December 15, 2008 (Sec. 105).

-Requires the Secretary of Defense to submit a report by February 1, 2008 to Congressional defense committees that describes the current plan and status for the reduction of U.S. Armed Forces in Iraq, and delays any additional funding until this report is submitted to Congress (Sec. 105, 106).

-Requires that none of the appropriated funds may be used to establish a permanent military installation in Iraq or to control any oil resources in Iraq (Sec. 210).

Reinstate Pay-As-You-Go through 2011 Amendment

Obama voted yes

Vote to adopt an amendment that prohibits the Senate from considering legislation that would increase the current 33;on-budget deficit33; or create an on-budget deficit at any time from 2006 to 2011.

Earned Income Tax Credit Amendment

Obama voted yes

S Amdt 2616 to S 2020: To accelerate marriage penalty relief for the earned income tax credit, to extend the election to include combat pay in earned income, and to make modifications of effective dates of leasing provisions of the American Jobs Creation Act of 2004.

Vote on a motion to waive the Budget Act in order to adopt an amendment that increases the deduction or credit that married couples filing joint tax returns can qualify for by $3,000 in 2005 instead of the proposed 2007 start date.

Hurricane Victims Tax Benefit Amendment

Obama voted yes

- Indicates that a nonresidential or residential rental property affected by Hurricane Katrina will receive an allowance equal to 50 percent of adjusted basis of the property, the otherwise depreciation deduction then calculated on the reduced adjusted basis.

- Increases the state low-income housing credit limit for Alabama, Louisiana, and Mississippi

- Designates property placed in service in an area affected by the hurricanes during 2006, 2007, or 2008 a 33;difficult development area33; for tax purposes

- Allows individuals to treat up to 50 percent of 33;qualified Gulf recovery zone clean-up as an expense not chargeable to a capital account33; when the property is used for business or trade

- Allows individuals who lived in areas affected by the hurricanes to receive up to $100,000 from another individual's retirement plan without increasing the amount the individual receiving the finacial help is taxed

- Grants employers affected by the hurricanes an employee retention credit of up to 40 percent of qualified wages paid

- Suspends, temporarily, limitations on charitable contributions that are tax deductible for efforts related to relief from the hurricanes

- Suspends the minimal limit on personal casualty losses that are tax deductible for areas affected by the hurricanes

- Increases the alternative minimum tax exemption amount for individual taxpayers

- Extends superfund taxes until 2015

S Amdt 2371 to S 1932: To amend title XVIII of the Social Security Act to provide the authority for negotiating fair prices for medicare prescription drugs.

Obama voted yes.

Vote on a motion to waive the Budget Act, in order to adopt an amendment that grants the Secretary of Health and Human Services authority to negotiate contracts with drug manufactures for lower prices on bulk prescription drugs for Medicare.

S Con Res 18 S AMDT 210 to S Con Res 18: To repeal the tax subsidy for certain domestic companies which move manufacturing operations and American jobs offshore.

Obama voted yes.

Vote to adopt an amendment that would repeal the tax subsidy for American businesses that relocate jobs and manufacturing operations overseas.

S Amdt 3907 to S Amdt 3911 to S 2248

Obama voted yes

Vote to adopt an amendment that strikes Title II from the bill, in effect striking the civil immunity provisions for telecommunications providers and other electronic communications providers that have provided electronic surveillance.

S Amdt 3910 to S Amdt 3911 to S 2248

Obama voted yes.

Vote to adopt an amendment that states that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act is the exclusive means by which surveillance can be conducted on domestic wire, oral, or electronic communications. (no bush, neocon spying permitted)

S 1042

S Amdt 1351 to S 1042: To stop corporations from financing terrorism.

Obama voted yes

Vote to adopt an amendment that makes U.S. businesses and their subsidiaries liable to prosecution for dealing with foreign businesses which have links to terrorism or whose parent country supports terrorism.

S Amdt 2022 to S Amdt 2011 to HR 1585: To restore habeas corpus for those detained by the United States.

Obama voted yes

S 1: A bill to provide greater transparency in the legislative process.

Obama voted yes.

-Increases the mandatory waiting period before becoming a lobbyist to two years after leaving office for former Senators and senior executive personnel, one year for former members of the House of Representatives, and one year for officers and staff of the Senate [Title I (Sec. 101)].

-Requires that every six months lobbyists disclose all donations made to Federal candidates or officeholders, leadership Political Action Committees (PAC's), or political party committees that were greater than or equal to $200 [Title II (Sec. 203 [a])].

-Requires candidate committees, leadership PAC's, and political party committees to disclose bundled contributions by a lobbyist totaling over $15,000 within a six-month period [Title II (Sec. 204)].

-Prohibits members of the House from participating in events that honor them at the presidential nominating convention for the party in which they belong if the event is directly paid for by a registered lobbyist unless they are a candidate for president or vice president at the convention [Title III (Sec. 305)].

-Prohibits any member of Congress from participating in the Civil Service Retirement System if convicted of bribery, fraud, perjury, corruption, conspiracy or other related offenses [Title IV (Sec. 401 [a])].

-Requires a Senator who intends to object to proceeding to a measure to submit a notice of intent in writing to the Majority or Minority leader and, no less than six session days after the submission of the notice, submit a notice to the Congressional Record that states the Senator's objection and details the reasons [Title V (Sec. 512)].

-Requires that Senators who submit earmark requests on a bill or committee report be identified as the sponsor of their requests on a publicly accessible congressional website at least 48 hours before the item comes to a vote [Tile V (Sec. 521)].

-Requires that Senators, candidates for Senate, or Presidential candidates using non-commercial air travel pay the fair market value of the usual charter fare or rental charge for a comparable plane of comparable size [Title VI (Sec. 601)].

-Prohibits House members and candidates from accepting travel on an aircraft unless it is operated by a commercial carrier, an entity of the Federal government, or the government of any state [Title VI (Sec. 601)].

S Amdt 2476 to S 1042: To establish a special committee of the Senate to investigate the awarding and carrying out of contracts to conduct activities in Afghanistan and Iraq and to fight the war on terrorism.

Obama voted yes.

Vote to adopt an amendment that creates a special committee to investigate the awarding of contracts in Afghanistan and Iraq taking into consideration: bidding, methods of contracting, subcontracting, oversight procedures, allegations of wasteful practices, accountability and lessons learned in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Iraq Troop Reduction Amendment

Obama voted yes

Vote to adopt an amendment to begin reducing the number of U.S. forces in Iraq within 90 days of the enactment of this bill, with the exception of a limited number of U.S. forces to be engaged in targeted counterterrorism, the training of Iraqi forces, and the protection of U.S. personnel and infrastructure.

Time Between Troop Deployments

Obama voted yes

Vote to adopt an amendment that adds language to HR 1585 establishing mandatory minimum rest periods for members of the regular and reserve components of the armed forces between deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, and expressing the sense of the Congress concerning ideal rest periods between these deployments.

-Prohibits the deployment of members of the regular armed forces unless the time period between deployments is at least as long as the period of the previous deployment.

-Expresses the sense of the Congress that the optimal time period between deployments for members of the regular armed forces should be at least twice as long as the period of the previous deployment.

-Prohibits the deployment of members of the Reserve Armed Forces and National Guard if the member has been deployed within the preceding three years.

-Expresses the sense of the Congress that members of the Reserve Armed Forces should not be mobilized continuously for more than one year, and that the optimal time period between deployments should be at least five years.

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