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Title: Jim Webb, Iron Intellectual
Source: The Trail
URL Source: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the- ... im_webb_iron_intellectual.html
Published: Jun 6, 2008
Author: Alec MacGillis
Post Date: 2008-06-06 19:33:05 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 3104
Comments: 219

Barack Obama

Jim Webb, Iron Intellectual

By Alec MacGillis
Lost in the hubbub over Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton's secret rendezvous at Sen. Dianne Feinstein's house last night were some of the intriguing ramifications of Obama's previous appointment, a rally at the Nissan Pavilion in the Northern Virginia exurbs that was also attended by Sen. Jim Webb and Gov. Tim Kaine.

Both men, of course, have been mentioned as possible running mates for Obama -- and, in the eyes of the veep-obsessed press, that made the event into an audition of sorts.


This was particularly true for Webb, who, unlike Kaine, was making his first appearance in the role of an Obama booster, having stayed neutral throughout the primaries. One thing quickly became clear, as the red-haired senator introduced the presumptive nominee: those pushing for Webb because they think he will bring muscular, regular-guy credentials -- Marine hero in Vietnam, former Navy secretary, Scots-Irish roots -- may need to think again.

There's no doubt that Webb is tough. He's stood up to President Bush at a White House reception and has a concealed-carry gun license. But he also sees himself as a serious, free-thinking intellectual. He has a bevy of fairly well-regarded books under his belt and prides himself on writing his own stump material.

If yesterday's joint appearance was any indication, far from canceling out Obama's Ivy League pedigree, an Obama-Webb ticket could be one of the most literary pairings ever to take the field.

Whereas Kaine served up a fairly conventional Democratic rallying cry, Webb embarked on a meditation on American history and self-conception over the past forty years. He noted that it was the 40th anniversary not only of Bobby Kennedy's assassination but also of his own swearing into the Marine Corps. He took the audience back to that "tumultuous year" -- the assassinations, the Tet offensive, the riots in which "the African American sections in many American cities had erupted with frequent violence" and the Democratic convention in Chicago.

Webb said he was giving the history tour "because we all know that the United States of 2008 is also a troubled and divided place in a quiet but equally disturbing way."

"The tumult of those earlier years," he went on, "convinced me and others that we needed to learn our love our country more deeply for all its ugly flaws, because it required us to sit back and reconsider the beliefs and values that had once been handed to us as our national legacy. We went through an intellectual challenge in justifying America's uniqueness on fresh grounds and this caused us to believe all the more strongly that ... that this was the moral beacon of the world, that for all or problems we had the will to solve them, the patience to undergo the painful debates that might identify solutions ... and the constitutional system that will provide remedies and thus hold us together as a people."

After a bit more in this vein, Webb got around to introducing Obama -- whom he praised, before all else, not for his toughness or determination, the qualities one might expect the ex-Marine to highlight, but for his brains.

"He is man of great intellect," said Webb. He then drove home the praise by punctuating the final sentence of his introduction with a loud fist pound on the podium.

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#1. To: All (#0)

I can see a big problem with an Obama/Webb ticket. They would find it difficult to get the stupids vote. The stupids are likely to vote for McCain or to stay home and watch Cialis infomercials.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-06-06   19:35:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Arator, Hate Speech lovers (#1)

Senator Webb, another defender of our 1st Amendment. Quite a guy!

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Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-06   20:03:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

This is it? Is this all you got?

It looks like an embarrassment of... what's the opposite of 'riches' in this context? Penury? You mean you don't have nothing on his supermarket cashier's boyfriend? Maybe he's burning Arab-supplied gasoline in his car? Any moonshinig convictions on his grandpa's record?

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-06-06   20:17:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#3)

This is it? Is this all you got?

Signing on to legislation that criminalizes speech might be fine for the feckless Obamaites like you, and your freakish pals, but real Americans toss scum like Webb into the socialist waste basket where he belongs.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-06   20:27:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

Say it again: "there's not one iota of difference between Obama/Webb and Hilly/Steinheim, McCain/Condi or W/Cheney. They are all the same and it makes no difference who gets the job.

Yes? Say it again, please. It's so entertaining. It's dumb, of course but it's funny too.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-06-06   20:53:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Jethro Tull (#10) (Edited)

Say it again: "there's not one iota of difference between Obama/Webb and Hilly/Steinheim, McCain/Condi or W/Cheney. They are all the same and it makes no difference who gets the job.

Yes? Say it again, please. It's so entertaining. It's dumb, of course but it's funny too.

LOL.

I'm with you, avrwc. JT wasn't always so dumb. Maybe he just plays dumb to provoke. I think deep down he knows better.

He's attracted a posse that's stump stupid, though. Too bad their candidate (Hillary I, Queen of Appalachia and Contessa of San Juan) didn't come through for them. And, now, a black man shall rule over them, one possessing exceptional intellect and political skills, and the prospect positively terrifies them. In this way, the stars have aligned so that the very universe mocks and laughs at their puerile and retrograde pigmentation-based pretensions.

Arator  posted on  2008-06-06   22:39:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Arator, a vast rightwing conspirator, Jethro Tull (#19)

I'm with you, avrwc.

Well, of course you are. You both seem to just love the whitey-hating Marxist for some reason. I would imagine the only ones who will ever know why will be God and your psychiatrists. I imagine those sessions, where he delves into what makes you tick and why you have changed from someone who supported a real patriot in Ron Paul, or claimed to anyway, and now supports someone who is his complete opposite in Obama, is confusing to say the least.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-06-07   8:55:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: James Deffenbach, Cynicom, Aratoe, Mike, VRWC, all (#56)

Obama's acolytes are hard to dismiss. Our question to them should be, "When did you come to Obama"? There is no other rational way to discuss their knee pad- like devotion for the Messiah. I understand Oprah simply calls him The One, because we need politicians who know how to be the truth. Help me with my Jesus here, but isn't there something in the good book about, "I am the way, the truth ..."? Apparently Obama is a living, breathing designer of Intelligent Design who can help us all get to a higher plane. But please, during our coming discussions, do not interject fact into the discussion. Or race. Or his radical African Theology. Or his past radical associates. You get the picture. The Os are to Obama as Marshall Applewhite was to Heaven's Gate.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-07   9:09:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Jethro Tull (#64)

Check out above. I addressed your curiosity on 'when did you come to Obammer'. Because I was against him before I was for him.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-06-07   9:17:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#71)

Ha...

You were a sideliner from day one. Painted yourself into a corner as a non thinker and now cannot get out.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-07   9:19:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Cynicom (#73)

Aha.

Sorry, got to do my 100 laps before the guests show up for the pool party.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-06-07   9:23:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#77)

Sorry, got to do my 100 laps before the guests show up for the pool party.

Ha...

Do your laps and travel all that distance and guess what? You end up right where you started, somewhat like your circular political thinking.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-07   9:29:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Cynicom (#78)

Gun-toting hippie yuppie?

buckeye  posted on  2008-06-07   9:30:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: buckeye (#79)

Gun-toting hippie yuppie?

And guilt ridden to boot.

Take a look at the the people around Obama, his "handlers" and his major supporters.

One sees NO BLACKS, all whites and nearly all Jews. From his controller, Axelrod, on down the line it is apparent who is in charge and who is the puppet.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-07   9:39:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Cynicom, Ferret Mike, avrwc, Arator (#84)

Farrakhan loves Obama.

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