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Title: Eagles - Hotel California (live, 1976)
Source: My Space
URL Source: http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuse ... ids.individual&videoid=6967342
Published: Mar 13, 2007
Author: Crazy Diamond
Post Date: 2008-06-07 11:04:46 by buckeye
Keywords: None
Views: 242
Comments: 13

The Eagles - Hotel California

(Live - 1976) According to Don Henley: "We were all middle-class kids from the Midwest. Hotel California was our interpretation of the high life in Los Angeles."


This is about materialism and excess. California is used as the setting, but it could relate to anywhere in America. Don Henley in the London Daily Mail November 9, 2007 said: "Some of the wilder interpretations of that song have been amazing. It was really about the excesses of American culture and certain girls we knew. But it was also about the uneasy balance between art and commerce."
http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=1121


Poster Comment:

Mirrors on the ceiling,
The pink champagne on ice
And she said "We are all just prisoners here, of our own device"
And in the master's chambers,
They gathered for the feast
They stab it with their steely knives,
But they just can't kill the beast 

Translation:

Good evening, good evening to all and welcome on soir3. Here are the title of you evening news among others, Davos political; and economic forum opened today at Davos in Switzerland bringing together the finest of world economy and number of political decision makers which takes place every year. What is the (use) importance of such gathering? Nothing much. Most of the important decision are made elsewhere, this is what Michael Gama the author of ‘Rencontre au sommet’ (Meeting at the top) (??) think. He will give straightforward answers to our questions.

It is on a backdrop of the crisis on the stock exchange markets that the World Economic Forum in Davos Switzerland opened. It is a yearly summit that brings together the elites of world politics. Condi Rice, Tony Blair, Shimon Peres are already there. Francois Fillon and above all two thousand of the most important companies in the world.

-Michael Gama answers our question . Good evening Michael

-Good evening

-You are the author of ‘Rencontre au sommet’, when men of power meet, published by Antiplano editions. Davos, what is it good for?

In effect Dovos is presented like an event where number of decision makers would meet and would prepare a series of decisions that would affect world economy and geo-politic setting.

-Is that true?

-In Fact Davos, what is it is? It is that it is a big show. It stages different political coups because it is after all a political enterprise that needs dramatizing.

-What do you mean by political coups?

-Since the 80 it show the great political reconciliations, also show that there is possibility to have a dialogue between the ultra liberals and inter-mondialists , it is always about staging reconciliation in order to show that people can talk to each other.

-Thus it is a show (affichage). No meaningful decision on political or economy ever came out of these encounters?

-Let us say that in effect there are political deciders who participate … have interest in participating because they meet each others, have discussions in hallways, and meetings in more or less informal setting but they escape… when decisions are taken, it is by escaping the mediatic framework as it would be the case in a plenary session, just as you can see…

-So this calls for another question, where are these decisions really taken? In reading your book one learns that there are two circles ( Translator: I prefer ’settings’) you mention the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group what precisely is all that about?

-The trilateral Commission just as the Bilderberg group are two groups that unlike Davos can… gather in a more powerful way matters f world governance….

-That is?

-That is in the way that in effect, the Bilderberg group just as Davos bring together every year at their meetings 120 people…100 people. Participants are government ministers, leaders of multinationals, leaders of international organizations and for five days they are in an isolated hotel so that they can talk…

-And this is not publicized (mediaticized)..

-And it is not at all publicized precisely it is within a close environment a bit secret and because of the promiscuity (Translator prefers closeness) o can imagine that even contrary to the conspiracy theory one is not in the yearly planning of decisions but one can imagine that given the interests of participants…

-Precisely who are the political bosses namely French who are part of the two secret circles in comparison to the Davos rendez-vous?

For instance, with the trilateral Commission, one important point to underline is that both groups are said bipartisan in that you find as much politicians on the left as on the right.

-Names, give us names

-The Trilateral commission count people like Laurent Fabius, Denis Pascal or Pierre Lelouch for example of the UMP. You find also in the Bilderberg Pascal Lami who was in his time, commissaire European (equivalent of Minister of the European Gov. Translator) who is now the president of the WTO. We can also name Bertran Colon-Lafargue

What, what important decision maybe know to known to the public at large were take either by the trilateral commission or the Bilderberg?

-There are two that can really wonder about… For example G8 came from the trilateral commission out of the discussions that took place during the 70’s during Giscard mandate …let us mention that for the Bilderberg, EADS according to Jean-Louis Jargorin, the constitution of the EADS group resulted from information gather during the discussion at the forum…It important to specify that it is not a matter of formal decision, the importance of these discussion is the these people get real power outside these circles, they are, they are already in position of power thus have influences that are not….

-Last question by formation you are an anthropologist. You do not have a background in journalism you are 24 the book is well researched how did you work…. Since most of what you treat, you uncovered them when you were 19 or 20, you were saying , how did work how did you manage to get close to this information?

-In effect I have manage to meet a good deal of the participants essentially at the Bilderberg and also at Davos in the frame of a scientific anthropologic study. I do not think there is a great interest save for methodology, there is no need to explain … however what is important to underline is that for these groups and to retain is that there is there is a discourse that these people be able to have control over the globalization Movement able to offer solutions though they know very well that they have not solution to social, ecological …because the capitalism system result from a situation beyond their control.

-Thank you Michael for having answered our question , thank you

-Thank you

http://infowars.wordpress.com/2008/01/26/french-tv-cites-bilderberg-group-power

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#1. To: farmfriend, Dakmar (#0)

Bob Dylan - Shelter From The Storm (1976 Hard Rain)

For contrast.

buckeye  posted on  2008-06-07   11:22:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeye (#1)

Good stuff - thanks.

Lod  posted on  2008-06-07   11:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lodwick (#2)

This expresses the sadness of not knowing what you have until its gone. It's likely that Dylan wrote it about his ex-wife. (thanks, adam - evanston, IL)

www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=2450

Well the deputy walks on hot nails,
And the preacher rides a mount;
But nothing really matters much,
It's doom alone that counts.
And the one-eyed undertaker,
He blows a futile horn.
"Come in," she said, "I'll give ya,
Shelter from the storm."
Shelter From the Storm

buckeye  posted on  2008-06-07   11:32:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeye (#1)

Funny. I was thinking about someone posting an Eagles song to 4-play just the other day. I was thinking about how much the name of the band sucks, how tired I was of listening to Don Henley's voice, how Joe Walsh still apparently sounds like he has the DTs, stuff like that.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-07   11:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: nobody (#4)

Serendipitous? I think not.

buckeye  posted on  2008-06-07   11:35:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeye (#5) (Edited)

Is "The Eagles" not a stupid name for a rock band? Some equally-awful flag-waving war-hawking country group should have it instead.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-07   11:44:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: nobody (#6)

Yes. Quite a bit of their music is stupid, too. I think they had no idea that this song would ever mean anything to anyone, also.

buckeye  posted on  2008-06-07   11:46:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lodwick (#2)

Bob Dylan - - Knockin' On Heaven's Door 76

With Roger McGuinn.

buckeye  posted on  2008-06-07   12:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeye, lodwick, nobody (#1)

The Eagles did, in fact, suck. They took country rock to the masses. The Dillards, Flying Burrito Brothers, The Byrds...these were the authors of country rock.

The Dillards - Ebo Walker

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-06-07   17:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Dakmar (#9)

That's a fine memorial to Ebo. He'd be proud.

buckeye  posted on  2008-06-07   18:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeye, farmfriend, *Music Club* (#10)

Polly - Dillard & Clark

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-06-07   18:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: nobody (#6)

Stephen Stills & Manassas - Hide It So Deep

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-06-07   18:24:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Dakmar (#11)

If the wild bird could speak
She'd tell of places you had been
She's been in my dreams
And she knows all the ways of the wind

Chorus:
Polly, come home again
Spread your wings to the wind
I felt much of the pain
As it begins

Dreams cover much time
Still they leave blind
The will to begin
I searched for you there
And now look for you from within

Thanks for introducing us to that one.

buckeye  posted on  2008-06-07   18:41:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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