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Title: TSA outlaws flights to those who refuse to show ID, allows those that "forgot" them
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.boingboing.net/2008/06/09/tsa-outlaws-flights.html
Published: Jun 10, 2008
Author: ?
Post Date: 2008-06-10 08:20:55 by PSUSA
Keywords: None
Views: 311
Comments: 25

ver since TSA's creation after 9/11, passengers willing to undergo a pat-down and hand-search have been able to fly without ID. This rarely discussed, and little used right was documented by the courts in Gilmore v. Gonzales. While mostly just a way to assert your rights, the technique often had the added benefit of allowing the traveler to skip to the front of the security line.

With little warning, on Thursday, TSA announced a new change in policy. Passengers who refuse to show ID, citing the rights, will be refused entry to the boarding area. Passengers who claim to have lost or forgotten their ID will still be allowed to fly.

This new rule seems to only apply to terrorists that are unable to lie, while at the same time, massively cutting into the rights of passengers.

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Here is the TSA link

http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/enhance_id_requirements.shtm

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#2. To: PSUSA (#0) (Edited)

Soaring gas prices make refusing to fly a difficult choice. If I had to go to Texas for instance, it would cost me about $400 in gas one way, not to mention all the meals and tolls along the way.

Now, if I did choose to fly, I would have to submit to all sorts of scrutiny and voluntarily give up many of my rights, which I just won't do. It's almost as if they are trying to make it impossible for people like me to travel about the country.

Critter  posted on  2008-06-10   10:37:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Critter (#2)

It's almost as if they are trying to make it impossible for people like me to travel about the country.

Buy an old motorcycle. I did. My van gets 13mpg. I was stranded at home because I couldn't afford to go anywhere. Found a cheap old bike on Craigslist and now I get 50mpg.

They're trying to control us. Don't let them. If they think I'm going to stay put because gas is expensive they're crazy. Buy a motorcycle and enjoy the freedom to explore once again. It's liberating.

The van only gets to run when I'm working now. I'm saving a minimum of $50 a week on gas with the bike. It will have paid for itself in 4 months. You can do the same.

Ookie Wonderslug  posted on  2008-06-10   22:36:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#11. To: Ookie Wonderslug (#9) (Edited)

hey, ookie...nice to see you again.

btw, my son has a motorcycle. i'm a nervous wreck every time i know he's riding it. i know of too many who have lost life and limb from cycle accidents. i don't ever want to get that dreaded call.

christine  posted on  2008-06-10 22:47:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ookie Wonderslug (#9)

Buy an old motorcycle.

We bought an '85 Suzuki 700. We also have a Honda VTX 1800.

farmfriend  posted on  2008-06-10 22:47:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ookie Wonderslug (#9)

I have a 72 HD in the garage. :)

I'm doing head gaskets on it now and will have it on the road in a couple of days.

Critter  posted on  2008-06-10 23:02:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ookie Wonderslug, Critter, christine, TwentyTwelve, angle, Lodwick, farmfriend, Peppa, CadetD, all (#9)

The Volkswager, Jetta, Golf, or Passat with the "CDI Diesel" gets 30 to 40 MPG.

Audi offers the same engine.

You can buy a used VW with that engine for about 7 G's (or less if you pay cash and bargain hard).

A next generation TDI Diesel should begin hitting the streets this year.

If you contact the "Motorhead Messiah" he's a diesel specialist - if his "bolt on" kit will work on these engines you can add another 30 to 40 percent to the mileage with improved pick-up.

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-06-12 23:51:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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