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Title: Veep Audition? Clark Says McCain Is "Untested" On National Security
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URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/ ... -mccain-is-untes_n_106457.html
Published: Jun 11, 2008
Author: Seth Colter Walls
Post Date: 2008-06-11 12:23:38 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 184
Comments: 14

On Tuesday, Sen. Kent Conrad revealed that Sen. Barack Obama is including "former top military leaders" among the approximately two dozen names currently rattling around in a not-so-short vice presidential short list.

Such figures don't come much more "top" in either political party than retired four-star General Wes Clark, the former Supreme Allied Commander Europe for NATO during the Kosovo War. After a late entry into the Democratic 2004 presidential race, in which he won the Oklahoma primary and finished second in three other contests, Clark turned himself into a popular surrogate on the stump for Democratic congressional candidates during the midterm elections.

Relatively new to partisan politics, he seems to have taken to the enterprise with gusto. As an early backer of Sen. Hillary Clinton, Clark traveled in the last year to Iowa, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Ohio, Texas, Indiana and South Dakota. But even now that the spouse of his former Commander in Chief is out of the race, Clark isn't done for the season. In an email pitch to his nationwide network of supporters last week, Clark urged party unity and described the call to elect Obama as a "critical mission."

In a wide-ranging interview with The Huffington Post, Clark offered opinions on the current state of American foreign policy, the Democrats' emergence as a more "full-service" party on security issues, and -- lest anyone doubt his potential use as a running mate for Obama -- the shortcomings of Sen. John McCain.

"I know he's trying to get traction by seeking to play to what he thinks is his strong suit of national security," Clark said of McCain while speaking from his office in Little Rock, Arkansas. "The truth is that, in national security terms, he's largely untested and untried. He's never been responsible for policy formulation. He's never had leadership in a crisis, or in anything larger than his own element on an aircraft carrier or [in managing] his own congressional staff. It's not clear that this is going to be the strong suit that he thinks it is."

Resume aside, though, Clark also took issue with the Arizona Republican's instincts on national security. "McCain's weakness is that he's always been for the use of force, force and more force. In my experience, the only time to use force is as a last resort. ... When he talks about throwing Russia out of the G8 and makes ditties about bombing Iran, he betrays a disrespect for the office of the presidency."

* * * Clark also said Democrats are making progress in becoming a "full-service party" that can compete on security concerns as well as domestic issues. "Republicans like to focus on the threat, on fear, on insecurities. It's what motivates their base," he said. "As Democrats, we focus on hope and possibilities in the future. So the two parties are asymmetrical. And because the two parties are different, it makes the national security [issue] play differently to both parties. But I think we have to point out the failures and shortcomings of the current approach. In the foreign policy arena, John McCain has pretty much bought the central thrust of the Bush administration's foreign policies: relying on threat and bluster [and] isolating people we don't agree with instead of engaging them."

Still, Clark says Democrats can't afford to be branded as unwilling to use force. "My take is that Senator Obama has been very clear ... As he said in his recent appearance before AIPAC, he is strongly committed to America's allies. And it would be a mistake for anyone to assume he won't use force when it's necessary and appropriate. ... I think it's a question of whether you believe all intercourse with an enemy must end in conflict or not."

Citing the issue of Iran's nuclear program, Clark suggested a prime window of opportunity may have been missed early in the Bush presidency, before the election of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. "I think Iran has come out of the Bush administration as a much stronger power," he said. "First of all, we eliminated the primary blocking force to their west in Iraq. Secondly, we have been ineffective in using the broader tools of U.S. diplomacy and moral suasion in the region -- and that's allowed Iran to capture Hamas, displace Fatah and strengthen [its] grip on Hezbollah. ... Without effective diplomatic engagement of Iran, we've allowed them to pursue a nuclear program that is likely aimed at achieving nuclear weapons. But we've refused to sit down and talk to them about it. ... I still favor an effort to engage Iran, but the clock is ticking on their probable nuclear program. This makes everything much more complicated and difficult now.

"I think that there was a window [for diplomacy]. Maybe two or three windows of opportunity. They might or might not have been fruitful. There are never any guarantees with diplomacy. But there are never any guarantees with force, either. John McCain should know that. He and I, along with many others, were caught up in an inconclusive war in southeast Asia."

* * * Still, for all of Clark's authority on defense issues and his willingness to go after McCain, some observers remain skeptical of his potential usefulness to Obama in the vice presidential slot. An unsteady first impression with the press in 2003 provided enough fodder for doubts that linger to this day regarding Clark's effectiveness as a campaigner.

It's clear that the former general, who studiously avoids any chatter about the current veepstakes, is keen to note his "learning curve" as a politician and his work ethic as a surrogate, citing the dozens of congressional candidates who requested his assistance in 2006. A source at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee confirmed that work ethic, saying that Clark has done everything that's been asked of him -- from voicing robo-calls to mining his email list for donations to making those personal appearances. "I don't want to brag on myself," Clark said, "but we got into places where no other Democratic spokesmen were invited."

Clark also suggested those travels have been good for his own political education. "You have to learn how to run for elective office, no matter where you've had responsible positions before. You have to learn how to hit the pitch. I think I had a pretty good learning curve in my run for office. By the time I was campaigning in January, I was doing very well. But you don't do it overnight."

When asked, Clark reports a feeling of contentment with his work in the private sector. Joined with the opportunity to comment on current affairs, he rightly deems it "a full life." But even Clark admits he doesn't have everything. "I miss my friends in the military. You know, the camaraderie," he said.

Perhaps he'll have the opportunity to reenlist for one more campaign.

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#1. To: christine (#0) (Edited)

Wesley Clark is an even more of a hypocritical scumbag than McCain.

Clark says Democrats can't afford to be branded as unwilling to use force. "My take is that Senator Obama has been very clear ... As he said in his recent appearance before AIPAC, he is strongly committed to America's allies.

That's all that matters, right Wesley?

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-06-11   12:25:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Arator, vast right wing conspirator, other Obama supporters (#0)

Will you guys still vote for BHO if he picks Wesley Clark as his running mate?

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-06-11   12:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#1)

Wesley Clark is an even more of a hypocritical scumbag than McCain.

Clark says Democrats can't afford to be branded as unwilling to use force. "My take is that Senator Obama has been very clear ... As he said in his recent appearance before AIPAC, he is strongly committed to America's allies.

That's all that matters, right Wesley?

Also Clark is crazier than McCain ( if that's possible).

I recall reading that when Clark was the US commander in the Kosovo "campaign", he went nuts with power and wanted to bomb everything that moved. The European military commanders begged Clinton to remove Clark because he was so scary.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-06-11   13:11:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine, all (#0)

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/707939/general_wesley_clark_as_vice_president.html?cat=9

A Clark selection makes complete sense to me.

General Wesley Clark as Vice President

By Mark Whittington, published Apr 11, 2008

Retired General Wesley Clark, on paper at least, would make an attractive running mate for either Senator Hillary Clinton or Senator Barack Obama, due to his experience as a military commander that involved both national security and foreign policy issues.

General Wesley Clark's main claim to fame is his command of allied forces during the Kosovo Campaign when he was Supreme Commander of NATO during the Clinton Administration. Though General Clark had tense relations with then Secretary of Defense William Cohen and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Clark's handling of the Kosovo Campaign was competent and effective.

General Clark would make up for the lack of foreign policy and national security experience of either Senator Hillary Clinton or Senator Barack Obama. He had ascended to a high enough rank that his diplomatic as well as military skills were to necessary to discharge the duties assigned to him.

He is a Clinton loyalist and has not broken from that, despite the ascent of Barack Obama in the polls. He has considerable political campaign experience having run for President in his own right in 2004 and subsequently campaigned for the Kerry/Edwards ticket. He also stumped heavily for Democratic candidates during the 2006 Congressional elections.

General Clark also has considerable academic credentials. His was valedictorian at his class at West Point and was also a Rhodes Scholar. He is also highly decorated, having received the Silver Star among other awards.

He is not without controversy. Some people within the Democratic Party have expressed doubts as to his loyalty to the party, considering his adherence to be more of a matter of convenience rather than conviction. He is also inexperienced in handling domestic and economic issues. This showed during Clark's 2004 run when he had to scramble to put together a platform that turned out to be a boilerplate liberal agenda that opposed tax cuts and supported regulations

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-11   13:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Rupert_Pupkin, christine (#1)

My favorite Wesley Clark moment will forever be when he was told that the Russians had gotten to Pristina airport before we did (an event that led to the Stryker program), and he told the British commander, General Michael Jackson (no relation) to stop them using force. General Jackson replied "I'm not starting world war three for you." and refused. I'm sure the language Jackson used was probably a bit more flowery, and possibly included "bollucks, bloke, pear shaped, and piss off."

I think that he should advocate himself to be the VP for both candidates, since his mindview fits in quite well with McCain also.

Rivers of blood were spilled out over land that, in normal times, not even the poorest Arab would have worried his head over." Field Marshal Erwin Rommel

historian1944  posted on  2008-06-11   13:14:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: scrapper2 (#3)

Clarks Father was Benjamin Kanne, his Mother was Ida Goldman.

The Senate promoted him even if the Army declined.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-11   13:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: historian1944 (#5)

Wesley Clark's biggest con was posing as an opponent of Bush's war in Iraq. His only real beef with it was that he wasn't the one running it, but that didn't stop liberal Democrats from getting all hot and bothered about how "principled" he was. Sounds a lot like McCain, doesn't it?

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-06-11   13:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: scrapper2 (#3) (Edited)

Historian44 is right about Clark itching to start a war with Russia.

If Obama picks him as his running mate, I can't wait to see the "anti-war" Obamites spin that one.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-06-11   13:26:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#6)

Well regardless of why he got a top dog military promotion, Clark has shown himself to be a crackerjack wackjob individual in the field. If Obama chooses him as VP, Clark's conduct during the Kosovo campaign is sure to come out. It's probably why he lost traction to Kerry in 2004. All the insiders know about Clark's penchant for taking on a Dr. Strangelove persona.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-06-11   13:27:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: scrapper2 (#9) (Edited)

Clark's conduct during the Kosovo campaign is sure to come out.

Unfortunately, that won't hurt his chances. Most liberal democrats were all for taking the Kosovo war to the extreme (it was a "good war" fought "for the children" - not like those "bad wars" fought "over oil").

It probably doesn't matter. The Obamites are so taken with their Messiah that he could pick a mad dog as his running mate and count on their support.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-06-11   13:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: historian1944, scrapper2, Rupert_Pupkin, Cynicom, christine, Jethro Tull (#5)

Why bother with the charades. James A Johnson is in charge of selecting Obama'a VP. He attended the latest Bilderberg conference in Chantilly in the company of Kathleen Sebelius. She also attended the Bilderberg meeting in Istanbul in 2007. She has been watched by Bilderberg since at least 2007 and has already been selected this year by the Bilderberg Steering Committee which invited her. James Johnson only went to the Democrats in the House and Senate to consult with them after the fact of her selection.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2008-06-11   13:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: historian1944 (#5)

My favorite Wesley Clark moment will forever be when he was told that the Russians had gotten to Pristina airport before we did (an event that led to the Stryker program), and he told the British commander, General Michael Jackson (no relation) to stop them using force. General Jackson replied "I'm not starting world war three for you." and refused. I'm sure the language Jackson used was probably a bit more flowery, and possibly included "bollucks, bloke, pear shaped, and piss off."

Thanks for jogging my memory, historian. I now recall that very odd, scary moment.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-11   14:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Horse, Historian1944, Rupert_Pupkin, Cynicom, christine, Jethro Tull (#11)

Kathleen Sebelius as VP to bring in fly-over country and female voters to the Obama fold?

www.nndb.com/people/369/0000442 37/

scrapper2  posted on  2008-06-11   14:18:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: scrapper2 (#13)

She's new to me. I'm thinking a black and a woman might be too much change?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-11   14:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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