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Title: McCain: Guantanamo Decision One Of the Worst Ever;
Source: HuffPo
URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/ ... o-detainees-have_n_106757.html
Published: Jun 14, 2008
Author: An unrepentant fascist traitor
Post Date: 2008-06-14 10:53:24 by Arator
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Keywords: McCain, is, Insane
Views: 643
Comments: 56

McCain: Guantanamo Decision One Of the Worst Ever

June 13, 2008 03:51 PM

John McCain heightened his rhetoric about the Boumediene v. Bush decision, which grants the Guantanamo detainees to question their confinement in civilian courts:

"The Supreme Court yesterday rendered a decision which I think is one of the worst decisions in the history of this country," McCain said.

The statement met with great approval by voters at the candidate's town hall meeting:

The crowd of more than 1,000 supporters, packed into a gym at Burlington County College, exploded into applause at McCain's comments.

The presumptive GOP nominee then read from Chief Justice John Roberts' dissent, and predicted the courts would now be "flooded" with habeas corpus lawsuits.

The harsh rebuke is a sudden shift from McCain's position yesterday, when he first learned of the decision:

It obviously concerns me . . . but it is a decision the Supreme Court has made. Now we need to move forward. As you know, I always favored closing of Guantanamo Bay and I still think that we ought to do that.

In contrast, here's Senator Obama's reaction:

Senator Barack Obama:

Today's Supreme Court decision ensures that we can protect our nation and bring terrorists to justice, while also protecting our core values. The Court's decision is a rejection of the Bush Administration's attempt to create a legal black hole at Guantanamo - yet another failed policy supported by John McCain.


Poster Comment:

For those who claim that there is no difference between McCain and Obama, and that it does not matter which one is president, their reactions to the recent Gitmo decision by the Supreme Court proves otherwise.

That decision proved that we are one Supreme Court vote away from total fascist tyranny. Bush appointees Roberts, Alito, Scalia and Thomas voted for fascism. Ford appointee Stevens, Reagan appointee Kennedy, GHW Bush appointee Souter and Clinton appointees Beyer and Ginsburg voted for the Constitution.

Three of the five non-fascist justices are expected to retire in the next president's term. It matters now more than ever that Obama be that president, not McCain.

You can't really afford to sit this one out, purist non-voters. It's time for you to reengage and vote Obama to save this Republic from totalitarian Fascist tyranny. Subscribe to *Treasonous Neocon Alert*

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#27. To: Arator, christine, Jethro Tull, rowdee, Peppa (#0)

"These are unlawful combatants. They are not American citizens, and I think we should pay attention to Justice Roberts' opinion in this decision," McCain said.

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Why is it that our govt can't successfully prosecute unless they can prejudice the courts with phrases like "unlawful combatants" and "illegal tax protesters"?

They want to invoke these made up phrases and magically dismiss all cogent arguments filed by the defense, and be relieved of the responsibility of proving jurisdiction and responding to points of law.

We've seen this many times in tax cases.

We ask them to show us the law and their reply is "This has already been settled by the courts. There is a law somewhere but we can't be bothered showing it to you just now, and only an illegal tax protester would demand to see it!" Even though the law has always required the prosecution to invoke jurisdiction by citing the statute or constitution (in cases of original jurisdiction) as part of the prima facie case! (This means the first page of the indictment, folks)

If McCain and Bush are successful in making a media created designation "unlawful combatants" stick then we are a nation of men not laws. Fortunately, the SCOTUS will have no part of this obscene (and legally baseless) appeal to the ignorance of the masses.

I can't find the quote just now but today I scanned the front page of the paper on the news rack and the court said in effect that, it's well within their power to review any claim by the executive to imprison people on his own authority, and they did that and found it unconstitutional. WHY? Because nowhere in the constitution is the president given the power to create a special class of non persons in limbo who can be held incommunicado for the rest of their lives based on suspicion, charges or other criteria that he isn't required to reveal.

Hell, King George was never that supremely arrogant!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-06-14   21:08:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#28. To: HOUNDDAWG (#27)

If McCain and Bush are successful in making a media created designation "unlawful combatants" stick then we are a nation of men not laws.

This is exactly what they've done, dawg (G'damn piece of paper), and that's why, unfortunate as it is, those 600 souls in Gitmo are on their own, just as we are. I simply don't understand the convolutions some are undergoing regarding habeas. We might enjoy the benefit, but what good is it when a body can be snatched off the street, sans charges, and left to rot in the local prison? Clinton was a better politician than Bush. He'd have set up an ad hoc court, paraded these folks in front of a black robbed lawyer within 48 hours, slapped them w/no bail and this issue would be moot. Bush being a functional moron, decided to be the 'tard he is and do an unconstitutional EO.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-14 21:19:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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