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Title: Malik Obama confirms his half-brother Barack grew up a Muslim
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Israel Insider
URL Source: http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12918.htm
Published: Jun 15, 2008
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2008-06-15 12:07:38 by Horse
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Comments: 69
Apparently the Obamas of Kenya have been reading those scurrilous emails to which Barack likes to refer, because they have no doubt -- contrary to the claims of the Obama campaign, that the presidential candidate was raised a Moslem. They take that as a given. As the Jerusalem Post reports, "Barack Obama's half brother Malik said Thursday that if elected his brother will be a good president for the Jewish people, despite his Muslim background. In an interview with Army Radio he expressed a special salutation from the Obamas of Kenya." The Obama brothers' father, a senior economist for the Kenyan government who studied at Harvard University, died in car crash in 1982. He left six sons and a daughter. All of his children - except Malik -- live in Britain or the United States. Malik and Barack met in 1985. In a remarkable denial issued last November that still stands on the official campaign website, Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs issued a statement explaining that "Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised as a Muslim, and is a committed Christian." Apparently Malik Obama, himself a Muslim, had not read the press release. Melanie Phillips is the most recent commentator to draw attention to the massive body of evidence that leaves no doubt that Barak Hussein Obama was born a Muslim (Islam is patrilineal) and raised a Muslim (so registered in school, acknowledging attending Islamic classes, reported accompanying his step-father to the mosque, and able to recite the Koran in the original Arabic). Reuven Koret, Aaron Klein and Daniel Pipes have previously pointed to the attempts by Obama and his campaign to conceal the candidate's Muslim background. The well documented evidence draws upon the on-the-ground interviews by researchers in Indonesia and Kenya, published quotations of Obama's childhood friends and his school records, as well as the candidate's own autobiography. It is not clear whether Barack Obama will now disown his half-brother Malik, or throw him under the campaign bus, for acknowledging that shared family background. In any case, some one should notify "Fight the Smear" tout de suite. Perhaps they can get him with the program.
Poster Comment: Instead of attacking the source we ought to come to grips with the fact that Mr Obama lies a lot.
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#1. To: Horse (#0)
Yes Obama lies, but with his lies comes hope that he won't lie more than McCain. Swapping political liars is the American way of politics.
When are you going to wake up and stop posting propaganda. You're falling right into the neocon Hegelian dialectic trap. Claim: Illinoise Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim who will not recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Status: FALSE www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp And look where this kind of crap started.. Hillary's team has questions about Obama's Muslim background Insight Magazine - Owned by one of those controlled by the anti-Christ - Rev Moon who claims to be the new messiah. www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Obama_2.htm and Confirmed: Barack Obama Practiced Islam Daniel Pipes - Front Page Magazine. A communist Kike writing for a communist magazine run by communist Kikes. And yes, I have no problem calling atheist Ashkenazim fake Jews Kikes. www.danielpipes.org/article/5354 Zionists are a far more dangerous enemy of America than any other radical group. Remember the U.S.S. Liberty. If if a Zionist says something chances are 99% that it is a lie. Those who worship in the synogague of satan have no qualms about passing of propaganda and sacrificing American lives for their torture state of Israel. Misleading aspersions about the senator's background only make the perpetrators look bad. Insight magazine managed to further degrade the public discourse with a scurrilous "report" alleging that Mr. Obama, as a child in Indonesia, attended a radical Islamic madrassa. In fact, Mr. Obama attended a public school in Jakarta that was predominantly Muslim -- no surprise given that Indonesia is a predominantly Muslim country. Insight, whose piece was eagerly touted by Fox News Network, might have learned this if it had bothered to check its story rather than cravenly attributing the false report to "Hillary Clinton's camp," citing unnamed "sources close to the background check" that the New York senator supposedly conducted into Mr. Obama. www.washingtonpost.com/wp...1/27/AR2007012701097.html If you’ve ever wondered how agit-propaganda works, you might take a look at the latest case study from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon’s media empire – a bogus story about Barack Obama attending a Muslim “madrassah” when he was six years old, a smear that was then attributed to operatives of Hillary Clinton. The shrewdness of Moon’s Insight magazine story is that it hit two enemies with one anonymously sourced stone, a strategy of slime and divide straight from the textbooks of a spy agency like the CIA. Only in this case, it is not the CIA planting black propaganda in a foreign publication to undermine some U.S. enemy. It is Moon using his media outlets subsidized by his mysterious foreign money to manipulate and distort the U.S. political process, again. The Insight “madrassah” story also turned out to be false. As CNN reported on Jan. 22, the Indonesian school that Obama attended as a child was not a “madrassah” where sometimes extreme forms of Islam are taught, but rather a well-kept public school in an upper-middle-class neighborhood of Jakarta. www.consortiumnews.com/2007/012207.html Exclusive: Editor of Moonie-Owned Magazine Engages in Thinly-Veiled Call for Muslim Extremists to Assassinate Barack Obama The smear of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama by the Moonie-owned Insight magazine is just the latest example of Moonie smears against Democrats (Robert Parry has a list, click here also). Clinton spokesman described the situation as "an obvious right-wing hit job by a Moonie publication that was designed to attack Senator Clinton and Senator Obama at the same time." The smear was to falsely suggest that Obama had a radical Muslim upbringing and was supposedly concealing his past. The story is a double whammy in that it attributes the smear to Hillary Clinton's campaign. Robert Parry called it "a strategy of slime and divide straight from the textbooks of a spy agency like the CIA." But the smears by Insight's editor Jeffrey T. Kuhner on Sean Hannity's radio show today were even more nefarious. Kuhner gave the Moonie party line. First, he denied that Moon or the Unification Church has anything to do with the operation of Insight magazine. In response to Wolfson's comment about Insight being "a Moonie publication," Kuhner made the following statement, First of all, the fact that our owners are the Unification Church is irrelevant. It's religious bigotry. It's disgusting. We don't go on about the Washington Post's ownership or the New York Times' ownership. Our owners have nothing to do with our publication whatsoever. So the impression somehow that we are conducting religious séances here, it's just part of this liberal smear. REALITY: Moon has dumped over $3 billion dollars into his media empire which includes the Washington Times, Insight, and the UPI wire service. Although church officials downplay their role in their media projects, Moon gives his followers a different story. For instance, in 1989, Moon told members of the Unification Church's Leadership Conference something different. Straight from the Messiah's mouth: So please take spiritual dominion in your states. You can proclaim spiritually to the government leaders, "I am the elder brother, you are the younger brother." Teach them what you have learned. I invited many congressmen and senators to come to conferences to be educated. Though they may not proclaim openly, many of them support me. Through the Washington Times, Insight magazine, and The World and I, I have been preparing the foundation for you to influence America. . . I am building up a media center, including a television studio and a wire service. Why? Because I want to be rich? No--to educate Americans in God's truth. scoobiedavis.blogspot.com...itor-of-moonie-owned.html Moon waning in Washington? www.freedomofmind.com/res...oon-waning-in-washington/ On January 17, 2007, Insight Magazine published an unsourced article claiming advisors to American presidential candidate U.S.Senator Hillary Clinton had discovered that rival candidate U.S. Senator Barack Obama was a former Muslim, had been educated in a Wahhabist "Madrassa" as a child in Indonesia, and were planning to make this a campaign issue.[1] Over the next several days a number of conservative pundits and news programs on Fox News Channel picked up and repeated the story, including John Gibson of The Big Story, Gretchen Carlson and Steve Doocy, co-hosts of Fox & Friends, and Sean Hannity of Hannity & Colmes. CNN reporter John Vause visited the Basuki School, a public elementary school, and found its staff in Western attire, its student body apparently consisting of Muslims, "Christians, Buddhists, also Confucian(s)".[2] The CNN story also quoted a spokesman for Clinton dismissing the allegation as "an obvious right-wing hit job" on both candidates. Insight responded by denigrating CNN's investigation, claiming it did "not satisfy our standards for aggressive investigative reporting", while excusing themselves as being only responsible for supplying "political intelligence" on "a limited budget".[3] Insight editor Jeffrey T. Kuhner maintains that the article is "solid as solid can be".[4] obama.wikia.com/wiki/Muslim_and_madrassa_school_rumors WASHINGTON (ABP) -- Churchgoing Congregationalist Barack Obama is being forced once again to explain that he is not secretly a Muslim bent on furthering an international Islamic conspiracy by winning the presidency. Jewish and other religious leaders have joined him in denouncing an e-mail campaign that has resurfaced in primary states in recent weeks. Various versions of the messages have spread since at least January of 2007, when the conservative online magazine Insight published an article that falsely asserted Obama attended a madrassa, or Islamic religious school, while he lived in Indonesia. During a debate between Democratic presidential hopefuls Jan. 15 in Las Vegas, the Illinois senator was asked about the whisper-campaign rumors. The debate moderator, NBC Nightly News host Brian Williams, referred specifically to an e-mail NBC News had received. It said Obama had sworn his congressional oath of office on a Koran and that he refused to recite the Pledge of Allegiance or respect the United States flag. “Well, look, first of all, let’s make clear what the facts are: I am a Christian. I have been sworn in with a Bible,” Obama said. “I pledge allegiance and lead the Pledge of Allegiance sometimes in the United States Senate when I’m presiding.” Later, he said that “in the Internet age, there are going to be lies that are spread all over the place.… Fortunately, the American people are, I think, smarter than folks give them credit for. You know, it’s a testimony -- these e-mails were going out in Iowa. They were going out in New Hampshire. And we did just fine” in those states. The same day, the leaders of nine of the nation’s largest Jewish organizations released a joint statement denouncing as “hateful” the e-mail rumor campaign. “Attempts of this sort to mislead and inflame voters should not be part of our political discourse and should be rebuffed by all who believe in our democracy,” the statement said. It was released, apparently, in response to reports that the e-mails were sent to Jewish voters in early primary states. The statement added, “Jewish voters, like all voters, should support whichever candidate they believe would make the best president.” Its signers included representatives of liberal and conservative nationwide Jewish organizations, including Nathan Diament of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations in America and David Saperstein of the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism. Reverend Sun Myung Moon's INSIGHT magazine spread the false rumor that Obama secretly attended an Islamic "madrassa" school as a six-year old. Apparently these false rumors prove that "Barack Hussein Obama" really is a closeted radical Muslim and unfit for office. Per INSIGHT, Hillary Clinton's campaign was behind this damaging revelation. Just when you thought the statute of limitations was up on the right bleating, "It's Clinton's fault!", they bring it back with a twist -- "It's Clinton's fault. Hillary Clinton's fault." The INSIGHT article cited no evidence or proof that this attack actually came from Clinton. Apparently, INSIGHT wants to divide and conquer the Democrats. They want Obama to think the Clintons are smearing him and cause dissent in the Democratic Party. They get to have their cake and eat it too. They get to smear Obama AND blame the dirty tricks on Clinton. So far, we aren't falling for it. www.huffingtonpost.com/ka...ting-begins-_b_39196.html Last week a letter to the editor appeared in The Tuscaloosa News. The letter asks several questions about Obama's faith including if he is a Muslim and if he was sworn into public office using a Koran. The answer to both is no. The letter is not the only indication of the misconception that Obama is a Muslim. Now, the Associated Press is reporting that Obama has stepped up efforts to correct the misconception. He tried to set the record straight again at a recent rally in South Carolina. In fact, only one U.S. congressman has ever been sworn into office using the Koran. U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., is the first Muslim to serve in Congress. He used a copy of the Koran once owned by Thomas Jefferson. But back to Obama. Here is some background on how these rumors got started. A Jan. 16, 2007 story in Insight magazine, which is owned by the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Unification Church, said Obama had gone to a madrassa in Indonesia. This story was quickly discredited by CNN, ABC-TV and the Associated Press. CNN went to Jakarta, Indonesia and debunked the Insight report just a week later.
LOL! You would know! ;-)
That's right I do know. I saw it coming in the 80s and unfortunately for Americans it worked. When it comes to politics and politicians too many Americans suffer from the "don't ask don't tell" mentality.
How can say that with a straight face? You support an establishment tool and accuse others of falling into the H.D.? ;-)
Show me where I support an establishment tool? Remember, you said "support"
Are you going to vote for and do you encourage anyone else to vote for Obama or mcCain come November? Let's just keep this simple, yes or no.
Question: If Obama does have Islamic leanings, and is in fact sympathetic to Islam and Muslims, then if he were elected wouldn't that mean that the Zionists would find themselves getting less of what they want at the expense of the rest of us? I'm trying to figure out why that would be a bad thing....
#2. To: Horse (#0)
#3. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#2)
You're falling right into the neocon Hegelian dialectic trap.
#4. To: Rotara (#3)
#5. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#4)
That's right I do know. I saw it coming in the 80s and unfortunately for Americans it worked. When it comes to politics and politicians too many Americans suffer from the "don't ask don't tell" mentality.
#6. To: Rotara (#5)
#7. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#6)
Show me where I support an establishment tool? Remember, you said "support"
#8. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#2)
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#9. To: Elliott Jackalope (#8)
can you answer that question with any certainty?
If Obama does have Islamic leanings
#10. To: Rotara (#7)
If voting for Obama is the only way of keeping the war-monger, maniac, womanizing, traitor McCain out of the whitehouse then yes I will vote for him. Again, I am a pragmatist. McCain gets into the whitehouse we can kiss the U.S. goodbye.
#11. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#10)
Are you going to vote for and do you encourage anyone else to vote for Obama or mcCain come November? Let's just keep this simple, yes or no. If voting for Obama is the only way of keeping the war-monger, maniac, womanizing, traitor McCain out of the whitehouse then yes I will vote for him. Again, I am a pragmatist. McCain gets into the whitehouse we can kiss the U.S. goodbye. I knew you wouldn't do it and in fact I never believed you could do it. Meet my BOZO filter, establishment ass kissing clown. ;-)
Show me where I support an establishment tool? Remember, you said "support"
#12. To: Rotara (#11)
Bozo filter because you can't debate the issue. Run and hide coward. Run and hide. Mommy will protect you LOL.
#13. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#6)
You said you would vote for Obama. Is that not "support" in your world? It is in America.
Show me where I support an establishment tool?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#14. To: James Deffenbach (#13)
If you were standing in the middle of a road and a bus was coming at you and you had two choices... stand there and let the bus run over you or jump to the side knowing that if you do you will be in danger of falling off the edge of a steep cliff but that you might, just might, be able to hang on and either pull yourself backup or hang on long enough to be rescued, which one would you do? You allow McCain into office by not voting against him you have said you will stand there and let the bus run over and kill you. Is it that hard to understand? You can be proud and say "I voted for a Ron Paul (or whomever) so you can't blame me for what McCain and the neocons have done to our country" Or you can vote for somebody you don't like knowing it will keep those like McCain (bush on steroids) from destroying our country and provide a better opportunity to stop and undo much of the damage that has been done because the other person is the lesser of the two evils. If you chose to do former and McCain gets in and continues the neocon, atheist Ashkenazi, anti-American destruction of America, then you will be as much to blame as those who voted for McCain. You want to be idealistic then go right ahead. That is what makes it possible for those like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro and the others to do what they have done.
#15. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#14)
Hitler was put in office legally. The rest went in at the pint of a gun. Your analogy is totally meaningless and just a cover for voting the the system candidates.
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro and the others to do what they have done.
#16. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#14)
Wrong. It's the 'we must support our guy no matter how crappy he is otherwise some ill defined enemy will kill us all' line of thinking that's been putting tyrants into office. I am now convinced that America is too stupid to exist. Any nation where honesty, morality, and doing the right thing are shoved to the side because such things are deemed 'impractical' or in some cases even frowned upon deserves to be thrown onto the scrap heap of history.
You want to be idealistic then go right ahead. That is what makes it possible for those like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro and the others to do what they have done.
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.
"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.
#17. To: Cynicom (#15)
Never read about the people's support for the 1917 Revolution, the people's support for Castro, the people's support for Mao? And once they realized the mistake they made in supporting these scumbags it was too late to do anything about it wasn't it. You make all the excuses you want but you don't do what it takes to keep McCain and the neocons from continuing their destruction of our country then you can only blame yourself. Let's see, who were the primary element of the 1917 Russian Revolution? If I recall history correctly they were Ashkenazi. And during much of Stalin's purges many still played a role in the Soviet Government. You go ahead a help put McCain in office and you will have to explain to your children (if you ever have any) why, 20+ years of Marxist Ashkenazi attempts to destroy our country you helped them complete their goal. And when that happens you can pat yourself on the back and say proudly, "yes but I didn't vote for any of those government controlled stooges" while knowing your idealist insanity played a part in helping them destroy our country and ruin the lives of our children and grandchildren.
#18. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#16)
I'll let you do just that for the future of our country, our children and their children. In the meantime there are those of us who see the entire system for what it is and who will do everything we can to keep it from being destroyed. Remember, the enemy of your enemy is your friend. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace. "Our country, right or wrong." When right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right. He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself. Men fight for freedom, then they begin to accumulate laws to take it away from themselves. Politics is the art of making your selfish desires seem like the national interest.
deserves to be thrown onto the scrap heap of history
#19. To: Horse (#0)
Here is what you support if you don't do whatever it takes to keep McCain from continuing bush's anti-American actions. AN IMPORTANT CRITIQUE ON EXECUTIVE ORDER 13286 Issued February 28, 2003 by George W. Bush An Amendment of Executive Orders, and Other Actions, in Connection with the Transfer of Certain Functions to the Secretary of Homeland Security Executive Order 13286 deserves your immediate attention! The subject of this executive order is the newly instituted Homeland Security, which increases the massive assaults on the essential principles of the republican constitutional form of government inherent under the Constitution of the United States of America. In particular, this executive order will be responsible for further objectionable recasting of the operation of American law enforcement. Our law enforcement systems are being transformed into soviets for Marxist management of the American people, an unhappy circumstance exposed in the attached article by Phillip Worts.1 The president's book on Homeland Security in its Executive Summary gives proof that the Homeland Security apparatus has already federalized our local law enforcement and the men and women who become local police officers, as it admits to “improve intergovernmental law enforcement co-ordination”.2 Control of the police departments is a power that strictly and rightly belongs to state officials. For obvious reasons, this power was never supposed to be usurped by the federal government. The dialectic tactics, the “Total Quality Management”, and the order to become facilitators of the community to which our local police officers are now being subjected, emanates from the federal government through a program called COPs (Community Oriented Policing). It is being administered through the federal Department of Justice. George Washington warned3 of the dangers in allowing alterations to be made in the power structure of the Constitutional system, which would impair the energy of the system and which would undermine what could not be directly over-thrown. We must consider the relationship of this advise in connection with the circumstances which we are now facing as the Homeland Security grows to monstrous size, equipped with unprecedented dangerous powers. The president of the United States, George W. Bush, with co-operation of the Congress and the governors of the states, has created and signed a series of ‘executive orders’ to consolidate power4 under himself sufficient enough for the erection of a militarized dictatorship over the United States. In other words, he has authorized himself to violate essential Constitutional prohibitions. The Homeland Security agency is a grievous threat to the liberties of the American people. An agency is an international term for international management under control of non-elective personnel who are not subject to the will of the people there under! Introduced as a security measure, this newly established agency has saddled itself over the nation using the innocent sounding title of the Homeland Security to keep the people from becoming alarmed at the massive power changes being conducted by the federal government. The concern over these serious alterations and changes in the power structure of the federal government being instituted by George W. Bush can not be overstated. For example, one such alteration violates a major Constitutional prohibition against merging the military with the civilian law enforcement under one agency head. This makes possible the conversion of our nation into a military government, which has long been planned.5 Tom Ridge has been presented as the first appointed head of this new agency. Appointed persons are not subject to removal by the electorate. Merging of the military with civilian operations is never done in a republic if it is to remain a republic. Conversely, the basis of a military dictatorship has now been set in place with the “purse” incorporated as an integral part of the new structure. The Treasury Department and the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) have been integrated within the office of the Homeland Security. What is being erected over the American people is a new form of government that they do not fully understand and which is sustainable and answerable only to its own self. The people need to be told the truth behind our being placed under this dangerous and expanding worldwide international regime, especially since it is about to become the recipient (with the exception of our Coast Guard) of our entire armed forces. The Coast Guard, a military establishment, has been included as a component of the Homeland Security, and is being amalgamated with our civilian law enforcement systems under an agency head! Whenever the military is brought in, the military takes over! The Homeland Security formation conforms exactly to the call made for an armed force as detailed in the United States State Department Publication #7277. This publication, known as The United States Program for General and Complete Disarmament in a Peaceful World, requires a force whose function is “to preserve internal order” for when the United States has transferred its national armed forces on a permanent basis under the control of commanders from the Security Council of the communist-dominated United Nations, and while U.S. citizens are being disarmed. Is this what the Bush administration calls being secure? This is not true “security”! These are long-standing written agreements between the federal government administrations and the worldwide international organization as evidenced in “The United States Program for General and Complete Disarmament in a Peaceful World” as well as in two Public Laws (P.L. 87-297 and P.L. 101-216) neither of which have ever been rescinded. Instead, Congress has been appropriating funds every two years for the objectives of these two laws to prosper. Can it justly be called “peace” when we no longer have a national military, when our citizens are completely disarmed, when a militarized internal security system (the Homeland Security) effects a military government over us, and when our police are sovietized? Someone has to answer for this! The United States State Department Publication #7277 states that this trans-formation is a requirement that is to be achieved “simultaneously”6 as the worldwide disarmament program proceeds. These efforts dovetail into another effort in the United States known as the “Worldwide Military Command and Control Systems” which was engineered by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Research Engineering Department. Why was the war with Iraq presented to Americans as an effort to do away with a dictatorship; yet, ironically, a dictatorship under a communist world government is being prepared “simultaneously” over the American people? Why is there so little outcry, so far, and no consent of the governed? Notice in the attached copy of George W. Bush’s Executive Order 13286 that the name of the president who was in office during the given dates has been inserted in the margin. The intent of Executive Order 13286 is to consolidate all the powers previously set aside by past presidents, going all the way back to Harry Truman and Calvin Coolidge, all of which contribute to the installation and expansion of a parasitic government – literally, a ‘government within a government’ -- but not one in conformity to true liberty and true justice. Rather, its mission is to abolish the established Constitutional government and weaken the people’s ability to alter the course under which they have been captured. How can there be any liberty, freedom, sovereignty, or rights for the people of a nation, which has no national armed forces of its own, and the citizens within are disarmed? Do you not agree in the least, that an investigation should be immediately called for with an injunction to protect the unsuspecting American people from such disaster? Keep in mind that George H. W. Bush laid down Executive Order 12803, which allows the infrastructure of our counties (all over the nation) to be sold off under private sales. The fact is that our military unbeknownst to themselves has become prostituted to serve inverse purposes never intended by the founders of this nation. It is not true liberty or true peace that they are now forced to serve, but our own armed forces do not know that! For Americans to accept the establishment of the Homeland Security is tantamount to approving the overthrow of the Constitution of the United States of America. The media over which the administration has control, has become a propaganda press, reporting the reverse of reality. Our own national military, believing that it is its duty to be the peacekeepers of the world, has become a major part of the Worldwide Military Command and Control Systems, aiding in the overthrow of the very system of government which they think they serve. Few realize that they are operating outside of the service of their nation, and are serving a new world order. Vigilance and adherence to essential principles of the Constitutional system and its structure was a responsibility that the nation’s founders placed solely upon the general population. It was the prime reason they incorporated the collective use of firearms by the people into the Second Amendment, along with the confirmation of each individual’s right to arms. The idea was to ward off tyranny created by public officials. What is the real reason that so much legislation is being enacted to forbid American citizens the use of firearms?7 Why has Governor Gary Locke, of Washington State, asked for guns to be addressed as weapons of mass destruction? If an injunction to reverse this ill situation is not achieved now while there is still time to use the First Amendment, the day will surely come when those of us (who believe in the Constitution of the United States of America and the Bill of Rights, as established by the nation’s founders in 1789) will be painted as terrorists and persecuted by this same office of Homeland Security. On July 18, 2002 it was reported that Representative John Duncan of Tennessee stated: “….We already have a department of homeland security and it is called the Department of Defense; which spends about $350 billion a year, more than almost all of the other nations combined. If the Department of Defense isn’t spending money on protecting the homeland, what is it spending these funds on?” Not only by issuing Executive Order 13286, which erects a military government over the nation, George W. Bush is pulling the wool over the eyes of the patriotic American people without their understanding of what is happening to them. The Iraqi experience should be a harbinger to Americans of that which happens when a nation refuses to disarm. Executive Order 13286 is well on its way to create those conditions for the people of America if they refuse to comply with “The United States Program for General and Complete Disarmament in a Peaceful World” and give up their military and their personal armaments down to the very last gun. Is it not conceivable that the statues of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison and Patrick Henry will some day be torn down if the Constitution continues to give way to the New World Order, and soldiers of other lands come to fulfill the promise of peace and freedom listed in those federal Public Laws: 87-297 and 101-216? Meanwhile, another round of U.S. military base closings is scheduled for the year 2005. Is our future to be found in the words of George Herbert Walker Bush as he said on January 17, 1991: “We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order, a world where the rule of law, not the law of the jungle, governs the conduct of nations. When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order, an order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the United Nation’s founder.” 8 -or- when he said on September 11, 1990: “The crisis in the Persian Gulf offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these trouble times ….a new world order can emerge in which the nations of the world, east and west, north and south, can prosper and live in harmony….Today the new world is struggling to be born.”? These issues are something you can not afford to put aside. How will you help to save the Constitution and the states within? Wake up! Wake up! It is later than you think! You know, the awakening of America all depends upon you! http://www.libertygunrights.com/CritiqueEO%2013286.html#_ftn1 The long awaited "update" on the persecution of Billy Phillips, former Chief-of-Police in Gallaway, Tennessee, is presented here in this article written by Dennis D. Cantrel, a SgtMaj in the U.S. Marine Corps. Cantrel knows Phillips to be an honest man who is not afraid to speak out against injustice. Even though Americans have been subjected to a multiple of presidential administrations that support the General and Complete Disarmament Law (Public Law 87-297), Phillips has not hesitated to speak out against the disarmament law and lend his support to the people under the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights. Phillips' belief is that Americans have an inherent right to keep and bear arms. When I first made his acquaintance, Phillips told me that 'it means trouble' for a Chief-of-Police to speak out against federal intention to prohibit all citizens from owning firearms. He has also rightly criticized the changes that were made in the law enforcement system of the states by the federal group known as the "Law Enforcement Assistance Administration" (LEAA). Phillips has affirmed that control of law enforcement is a power, which rightfully belongs to each state, rather than under federal seizure, where it is now. These views have made Phillips a target so that no other police officer or department will publicly dare to assert similar beliefs. It has been reported that they are using the district attorney's office as a weapon to bring down individual members of law enforcement that will not submit to their agenda. It leaves me wondering if this case has a connection to one of the five methods advocated in the Houlihan Plan for collapsing our Constitutional government. Pages from the Houlihan Plan ("The Politics Of Change in Local Government Reform") and a commentary, which precedes it, can be found on this Website. April 8th, 2008 THE PERSECUTION OF BILLY PHILLIPS As one begins to read into this Letter to the Editor/News Release, one might be inclined to initially conclude that the word “PERSECUTION” is mistakenly misused in place of the word “PROSECUTION” in the title above. Such is not the case, the substitution is not a mistake as far as the author is concerned. As for the readers, after reading and considering all of the content, I suspect that a great number of readers will agree with the choice to use the term “PERSECUTION.” Additionally, readers who, in the future, find themselves selected to be on a Grand Jury or a Jury within the jurisdiction of District Attorney General D. Michael Dunavant may very appropriately find themselves much more guarded and cautious of any testimony offered by General Dunavant, any of his Staff, or any other person potentially falling under the coercive scope of his authority. I am just a dumb old retired Marine Infantry Grunt with no particular expertise in the legal profession. Therefore, in order to avoid any misunderstanding by the reader, I am compelled by reason to define the two above terms as I have applied them herein. My common, average guy, understanding of the purposes and functions of prosecutors and investigators is that they, upon having probable cause to do so, investigate to establish that a crime has been committed. If they determine that a crime has been committed, they then proceed to conduct a thorough, professional, impartial, ethical investigation aimed at discovering all of the facts that can be uncovered regarding the crime. This includes not only discovering all of the incriminating evidence that can be discovered in support of some preconceived theory of the crime, but it also includes discovering all of the exculpatory evidence as well. When such an investigation establishes that there is probable cause to believe that a particular person or particular persons committed the crime, and that the weight of the evidence is sufficient to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, then they then proceed to charge such person(s) with the crime. They then proceed, within the limits of the law, to aggressively seek to convict the alleged offender(s) in a proper court of law—this fair and unbiased pursuit of the truth then leads to a just conclusion that I call a “PROSECUTION.” On the other hand, any process or investigation or attempt in or out of a proper court of law by prosecutors and/or investigators to simply single out a person to charge with a crime and then focus their efforts on discovering only incriminating evidence against the person singled out, while deliberately avoiding the discovery and/or disclosure of exculpatory evidence, I call a “PERSECUTION.” Some signs [tells] of such a persecution are uncharacteristic and/or unprofessional actions [exceeding a frequency beyond “very rare”] such as avoiding any attempts to corroborate the testimony of witnesses, and/or a failure to properly locate and secure physical evidence, and/or avoiding the discovery of documents which might prove [or disprove] guilt and/or any other actions whatsoever that tend to obscure the truth regarding the actual guilt of the accused. The “tells” of what I, above, call “persecution” are not at all rare in the below related cases against Billy Phillips although they should be. On the contrary, they are everywhere and there are far too many to simply dismiss them as mere oversight or even unintentional negligence. The Stolen Engines General Dunavant first indicted Mr. Billy Phillips for felony theft of two high performance Chevrolet crate engines and for Official Misconduct. Simply put, General Dunavant alleges that these two engines were gifts from a Chevrolet dealership to the City of Gallaway and that Billy Phillips acting under the authority of his office as Chief of Police diverted receipt of the engines to himself for his own personal gain. The trial ended in a hung jury. Why? The case was absurd on its face. Neither the City of Gallaway nor the Chevrolet Dealership filed a complaint alleging any unlawful conduct by Mr. Phillips. General Dunavant initiated the investigation without such a complaint based on false and misleading information provided by persons who had no standing to file a complaint of their own. Gallaway City Officials have no recollection of the city having ever sought ownership of such engines and no correspondence or other documents from the dealership to indicate that they ever sought or received such engines, nor would they have had a need for such engines. Additionally, the dealership could not produce any correspondence, receipts or other documents of their own or from the City of Gallaway that offered proof that such a transaction between them and the City of Gallaway ever occurred. Take note of this “tell,” this absence of any official documents from either the City of Gallaway or the Chevrolet Dealership that would prove General Dunavant’s charges. If the charges were true, there should have been numerous documents to support those charges. This same kind of odd lack of supporting documents in the prosecution’s endless persecution of Billy Phillips will occur frequently throughout this narrative. Billy Phillips, then Chief of Police, sought and acquired the engines as a private citizen acting in support of a Gallaway youth group and in support of other community projects. One engine was placed in a dragster that was built at Arlington Automotive in connection with a local youth group. It was still there at the time of the trial. Chief Phillips sold the other engine to another person and the proceeds were donated to a construction project in Gallaway intended to benefit the public. Mr. Phillips did not profit or otherwise personally benefit from either of the engines nor did he ever intend to profit from them. The dealership didn’t want the engines back, nor did they seek reimbursement for them, and the City of Gallaway makes no claim on the engines—they never asked for the engines. The remainder of General Dunavant’s case is based on a telephone interview between a Special Agent Jack Van Hooser and Mr. Bennie Green, the purchaser of the above mentioned other engine. According to Agent Van Hooser’s telephone interview, “…Green met with Phillips and took him a check for $5500.00, but Phillips would not accept the check, only cash. Green returned with cash and paid for the motor. Green thought it was unusual that Phillips would not take a check because they were friends, and Green had done a lot of work for Phillips and the City of Gallaway as a volunteer. Phillips and Green went to the home of a friend of Phillips where the motor was stored and picked the motor up…” There were and are two problems with this part of General Dunavant’s case. First of all [as will quickly become apparent], any competent investigator and even most incompetent investigators know that witnesses can sometimes be unreliable without even intending to be so. Consequently, whenever possible, it is standard practice for investigators to try to corroborate their witnesses statements. It would have been very easy for Agent Van Hooser to check on Mr. Green’s statement by checking Mr. Green’s bank records, but he, allegedly, did not do so [another tell?]. Perhaps Agent Van Hooser deliberately neglected to corroborate Mr. Green’s telling of events. After all, Mr. Phillips’ alleged refusal to accept a check and his alleged insistence on cash both imply a guilty act—implies that he was seeking to avoid a paper trail of his crime. Fortunately, Mr. Phillips managed to discover a copy of the supposedly non-existent check that Mr. Green used to pay him for the engine—the check that Agent van Hooser should have discovered in his [?unbiased, thorough, professional?] investigation. The check is from Mr. Green’s bank account and is made out to Billy Phillips for the amount of $5700.00. The memo note on it indicates that it was for the purchase of a crate engine. Consequently, Mr. Green was not only mistaken about how he paid for the engine, but he also had to “imagine” an entire round trip back to the bank to get the cash and then back to Mr. Phillips to pay him the cash. Unless Mr. Green was benefiting greatly from a recent ingestion of some powerful hallucinogen at the time of Agent Van Hooser’s “investigative telephone interview,” I find it impossible to believe that Mr. Green imaged such a round trip. Yet, at the same time, I find it impossible to believe that Mr. Green would have invented such a false statement on his own, for doing so, would only put him in potential jeopardy of perjury. The only way that it makes sense for Mr. Green to make such a false statement would be if he were “encouraged” to do so under duress. [Tell?] The trial ended in a mistrial due to a hung jury. General Dunavant’s office will retry Billy Phillips on the alleged theft of the crate engines again on April 23rd, 2008. The False Indictments Just days prior to Billy Phillips’ trial for the alleged theft of the above noted crate engines, General Dunavant’s office successfully sought four additional indictments against Mr. Phillips involving firearms and a radar gun and they then expeditiously informed the press of those indictments. Coincidentally, the TBI Agent, Special Agent David Harmon, who presented the charges to the Grand Jury, proceeded almost immediately after the Grand Jury hearing to the Gallaway Police Department to “investigate” the charges for which he had just obtained indictments! Coincidentally, Chief Collins, upon predictably checking readily available records and documents that had been available throughout General Dunavant’s investigation, informed the Agent that he had just committed perjury before the Grand Jury. Chief Collins provided the agent with documents proving that the firearms related charges against Mr. Phillips were false and the agent was appropriately shocked and dismayed. General Dunavant or a member of his staff dutifully went before the appropriate judge and had the charges dismissed. Coincidently, General Dunavant did not expeditiously inform the press of his errors or of the dismissed charges. Coincidentally, General Dunavant managed to get the press to report false damaging indictments about illegal handling of firearms before Mr. Phillips’ trial began. [Another Tell?] Usually investigators first investigate, confirm, and secure their evidence, before they seek indictments rather than the other way around. Although General Dunavant and his investigators did eventually take possession of and establish a chain of custody on the above mentioned radar gun, they conveniently did not bother to confirm and secure the firearms or any of the other evidence prior to seeking their indictments. Allegedly, the firearms related false indictments were based on a Report of an Investigative Audit of the City of Gallaway. The Investigative Audit Report is, generally, not actual evidence by itself. It is simply a report of evidence discovered. The actual evidence lies within the documents upon which the report is based. All of the documents available at the time of the audit were made available to the auditors including the documents that Chief Collins showed to the TBI agent to prove that the firearms indictments were false. The source documents, on the firearms in question, identifying from whom the Gallaway Police Department acquired the firearms proves that the alleged crimes did not even occur. These documents were provided for the auditors to review and copies were provided of all documents requested by them. In the unlikely event that the auditors failed to provide copies of the actual evidence to General Dunavant, that is simply no excuse for obtaining false indictments against a person and reporting those indictments to the public—especially a person about to be tried on other charges. The source documents have been readily available to General Dunavant and his investigators throughout the many months prior to and following the audit, as well as after the Audit Report was released. General Dunavant knew that the check discovered by Mr. Phillips, that wasn’t supposed to exist, had destroyed the credibility of the engine buyer as a witness in a case that was within days of going to trial. The coincidences noted above are deliberate coincidences and the errors made by General Dunavant and his Staff were deliberately orchestrated errors designed to try to publicly damage Mr. Phillips just prior to trial on the weak engine theft charges. The coincidental failure of General Dunavant to promptly inform the press of the error serves only to substantiate this conclusion. It was easy for them to predict that, if someone coincidentally showed up promptly at the Gallaway Police Department after the Grand Jury, they would coincidentally discover their error and coincidentally have to get the charges dismissed—but, of course, it would coincidentally, conveniently, and unfortunately be too late to stop the press. Investigating and validating the charges after obtaining the Grand Jury Indictments instead of before seeking such indictments? I suppose the Three Stooges might do things in that order. The only reason, in this case, for such a strange, aberrant reverse process of obtaining the indictment first and investigating second is self-evident. Had Agent Harmon sought the so-called evidence against Mr. Phillips regarding the firearms related charges prior to obtaining the indictments, he would have been made aware in advance that the firearms charges were false. Consequently, it would have been impossible to deliberately seek false, damaging indictments against Mr. Phillips prior to the already pending trial and then explain them away after the damage to Mr. Phillips had already been accomplished. The Indictments Regarding the Theft of a Radar Gun As mentioned above, along with the false indictments, Mr. Phillips was also indicted on charges involving the alleged theft of a Radar Gun. It was alleged that Piperton Mayor Chambers, City Commissioner Scott Thomas, and Piperton Chief of Police Carl Hendricks presented a radar gun to Gallaway Chief of Police Billy Phillips as a gift to the City of Gallaway in appreciation for Gallaway’s assistance and support in helping Piperton establish a Police Department. It was also alleged that this radar gun was purchased with a personal credit card by Commissioner Scott Thomas. It was further alleged that Chief Phillips falsely claimed that the gift had been presented to him in appreciation for his efforts to assist Piperton and that he, consequently, profited illegally by selling the radar gun. This gift was presented to Chief Phillips in private, behind the closed doors of Chief Phillips’ office. No other Gallaway Officials were present, nor did Piperton notify them that such a gift was to be presented. An auditor reported that it seemed to him that the gift of a radar gun would be more appropriate as a gift to a City as opposed to a gift to a Chief of Police. Frankly, considering the circumstances, my opinion is the exact opposite of the auditor’s. The gift was presented privately behind closed doors in the Police Department to Chief Phillips without the prior knowledge of any other Gallaway Officials and without the prior public approval of the Piperton City Commission. If the gift had actually been intended as a gift of appreciation from the City of Piperton to the City of Gallaway, the errant involved Piperton Officials would have obtained proper prior approval to present the gift on behalf of Piperton and they would have presented it publicly at an appropriate Gallaway public meeting and/or public award ceremony. Additionally, they would have found a gift or an award more appropriate to present to a city. Although the gift of a hand held radar gun to a police officer or police department seems reasonably appropriate, as a gift to a city, it would seem to be a really dumb choice. At the same time that the above gift was presented to Chief Phillips, Piperton Mayor Chambers and Commissioner Scott Thomas, without the proper prior approval of the Piperton City Commission, decided to try to modify a contract established between and approved by both the Piperton and Gallaway City Commissions. Upon informing Chief Phillips of their decision, Chief Phillips informed them that neither he nor they had the authority to modify such an agreement without the prior approval of their respective City Commissions. Thereafter the relationship between the Gallaway Police Department and the City of Piperton rapidly disintegrated. Once again there was a conspicuous absence of documentation to prove the charges. The prosecutors offered no documentation whatsoever as evidence in support of their charges because, although there were documents available, they disproved the claim that the radar gun was purchased by Commissioner Scott Thomas. It appears that it was important to the prosecution to present their case in a manner that indicated that Commissioner Scott Thomas had purchased the radar gun as a private citizen. It seems that the prosecution wanted to avoid disclosing some possible Sunshine Law violations and misconduct problems regarding their witnesses. The decision to give the radar gun to the City of Gallaway was not made at a public Piperton City Commissioners meeting nor was it approved at such a meeting. Had Commissioner Scott Thomas actually purchased the radar gun as a private citizen then that fact would probably have adequately mitigated the Sunshine Law violations and other possible misconduct credibility problems that existed with the prosecution’s witnesses. It is completely impossible to believe that General Dunavant and his staff did not seek any proof of purchase and/or proof of ownership documents and/or check the credit card records of Commissioner Scott Thomas regarding the purchase of the radar gun prior to seeking an indictment. The very idea that they would somehow inadvertently overlook the very obvious course of action to seek supporting documentation to help prove their case is absolutely absurd. Proof of ownership is crucial in establishing whether or not a theft has even been committed. It is obvious from the documents provided with this letter that, not only did Commissioner Scott Thomas not purchase the radar gun as was alleged, but that falsifying pen changes were made to COMMSERV invoice #149869 in an effort to create the false appearance that Commissioner Thomas had made the purchase. It is very clear from Piperton Police Department check number 1103 that Commissioner Scott Thomas did not pay for the radar gun. The check pays $699.00 to COMMSERV and in the lower left corner it refers to invoice #149869 which is the invoice for the purchase of the radar gun allegedly stolen by Billy Phillips. These above mentioned documents were obtained by the defense from Piperton City Hall just before trial because they were noticeably absent from the discovery provided by the prosecution. The prosecution had to know of these documents and they deliberately withheld them from the defense. The prosecution also certainly knew that Commissioner Scott Thomas did not purchase the radar gun. Nevertheless, the prosecution allowed him to get on the stand and commit perjury by testifying that he purchased the radar gun with his credit card. Additionally, Mayor Chambers and Commissioner Scott Thomas also certainly had to know about the above documents. Finally, can anyone actually believe that Commissioner Scott Thomas did not know that he was committing perjury when he testified that he paid for the radar gun? [way too many tells?] Billy Phillips was acquitted by a jury of all charges regarding the radar gun. In the aftermath of the trial, General Dunavant and TBI continue to stupidly act as if they actually believe that the radar gun belongs to the City of Gallaway. After the trial, Agent David Harmon sent a letter to the City of Gallaway requesting that they retrieve their radar gun within 30 days or the radar gun would be destroyed. Current Gallaway Police Chief Christine Ashcraft, who was unfamiliar with any of the details surrounding the radar gun, retrieved the radar gun from TBI. Consequently, for the time being, it is not going to be destroyed. Nevertheless, until such time as the Piperton City Commission properly and legally approves and documents the transfer of ownership of the radar gun from the City of Piperton to the City of Gallaway, the radar gun remains the indisputable property of the citizens of Piperton. Furthermore it is wrongful and unlawful for General Dunavant and Special Agent Harmon to deprive the citizens of Piperton of their lawfully obtained property by “awarding” that property to the City of Gallaway. There have been far too many slip-ups, too many unprofessional breaches of established investigative procedures, and too many negligent lapses in due diligence focused on one defendant [Billy Phillips] by General Dunavant, his staff, and TBI to simply conclude that they were just honest mistakes and/or human error. For some insane reason General Dunavant is determined to abuse the power of his office for as long as it takes to destroy Billy Phillips. Left unchecked, I think that General Dunavant will continue to concoct charges against Billy Phillips, such as those noted herein, until he either convicts Billy Phillips or bankrupts him. In addition to all of the above, which I would briefly describe as gross prosecutorial misconduct and malicious prosecution, General Dunavant has, during the same timeframe as covered above, not only tried to further damage Billy Phillips by lying to the media about Billy Phillips having multiple prior felony convictions, he has also communicated that same lie to the Mayor of Gallaway. Additionally, in a letter to the Board of Professional Responsibility dated October 15th, 2007, on paper with the letterhead of his elected office, General Dunavant stated that the Police Officer Standards and Training Commission [POST Commission] informed him that Billy Phillips “…had prior disqualifying felony convictions…” General Dunavant is fully capable of checking the criminal history of Billy Phillips and is, therefore, fully aware that Billy Phillips has never been convicted of a felony—or did he neglect to double check his facts in this matter as well? I was not at all surprised by the recent storm of media stories about the filing of a motion accusing District Attorney General Michael Dunavant of threatening to indict Selmer, TN Chief of Police Burks for testifying at a bond hearing for indicted drag racer, Troy Critchley. I had prior knowledge of similar conduct by General Dunavant. In the same letter to the Board of Professional Responsibility noted in the above paragraph, General Dunavant accused Jason Collins, the new Gallaway Chief of Police, of misconduct before the court in Billy Phillips’ first trial on the alleged theft of the crate engines. General Dunavant’s allegations were completely lacking of any substance or specificity. He alleged that Chief Collins sat directly behind Phillips and, that during breaks and at other times Chief Collins was seen at defense counsel table with Phillips, and that Chief Collins took further steps to assist and collaborate with the defense during trial. He further stated that it was unbecoming of a Chief of Police to assist those who violate the law. Apparently General Dunavant has deluded himself into believing that it is he, rather than the courts and juries, who decide who has actually violated the law. If Generals Dunavant and Dycus really believed that they had a legitimate concern about Chief Collins’ conduct before the court, then they would have had a duty as officers of the court to bring their legitimate concerns to the attention of the judge during the trial. They obviously either neglected their duty to present their concerns to the judge or, if they did, the judge apparently found no merit in their concerns. If the judge had, I am absolutely certain that the judge would have, at the least, had the bailiff remove Chief Collins from his court. Additionally, General Dunavant stated that it was disturbing to him that Chief Collins testified before the POST Commission on behalf of and in defense of Phillips. Chief Collins’ testimony before the POST Commission is a matter of record. He testified, primarily, to the state of the Gallaway Police Personel Files that he had previously reviewed at Chief Phillips request. Chief Collins testified truthfully before the POST Commission and his testimony was unchallenged. He did not testify on behalf of or in defense of Mr. Phillips nor did he do the opposite. He simply testified truthfully, without regard for who it helped or hurt, which was his only concern and his only duty before that committee. Think about it! In his above mentioned letter and in his recently reported treatment of Chief Burks in Selmer, General Dunavant is, by his conduct and attitudes, implicitly and coercively issuing an edict under the authority of his office that essentially states that no police officer in his jurisdiction should testify truthfully on behalf of or in defense of an accused fellow officer or any other defendant. Apparently General Dunavant cannot trust any police officer who would be disloyal to him by being loyal to the truth. When a police officer or any other citizen brought before the court, or any officer of the court including a prosecutor or defense attorney, or before any other fact finding body that can compel testimony under threat of perjury, then said police officer or other citizen is bound to only one loyalty and that loyalty is to the truth. Any statement, conduct, or action by General Dunavant in his official capacity that might tend to impede, or to obstruction, or to discourage said loyalty to the truth before the court can only be regarded as Official Misconduct or worse. I have done my best to provide as much supporting documentation as possible and to fairly and properly interpret the same. My resources are very limited. Please be aware that the content of this letter is intended only as an expression of my opinion and nothing more. In Henry Wadsworth Longfellow’s poem, “A Psalm of Life,” he writes “In the world’s broad field of battle, in the bivouac of Life, be not like dumb driven cattle! be a hero in the strife!” This was a plea from Longfellow to humanity. He is essentially saying, don’t be a slave to popular opinion, and don’t let the government, or society, or anyone, or anything else “tell” you what to think. Instead, learn to think for yourself. I can do no better than he in telling you not to believe what I have written simply because I have written it and I believe it. In spite of everything that I believe and that I have written herein, I, nevertheless, sincerely harbor a small hope that, at the end of a diligent search for the truth and the discovery of, as Paul Harvey would say, “the rest of the story;” and, after a thorough review of all of the evidence both inculpatory and exculpatory; the whole truth will, not only exonerate General Dunavant of any misconduct, but that it will also serve to both condone and applaud the actions and conduct of General Dunavant and his office. We don’t need a Nifong sort of episode here in our own back yard, but, at the same time, if we have one, we cannot simply turn away and ignore it. Respectfully offered as fruit for thought regarding various potential misconducts of District Attorney General D. Michael Dunavant of the 25th Judicial District. Dennis D. Cantrel SgtMaj. USMC (retired)
#20. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#18)
I'll let you do just that for the future of our country, our children and their children. A nation that scorns honesty, morality, and reason has no future. Remember, the enemy of your enemy is your friend. "Do not call upon the wolves to save you from the dogs. For in the end they will devour you both." - Russian Saying.
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.
"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.
#21. To: Horse (#0)
To me, the "Obama is Islamic" scare is about as credible as the "Obama is a radical black Christian" scare. Neither bothers me. Why? Because I'm not voting for him anyway. He loves socialistic programs like universal healthcare. It also doesn't matter to me that McCain wants our troops in Iraq until long after anyone on this forum dies. Why? Because I'm not voting for him EITHER. I consider voting for most Republicans and Democrats to be worse than wasting my vote. By voting for them, I am saying, "OUCH! Please Sir, may I have another." Ron Paul was a notable exception -- I re-registered as a GOP, something I swore I would never do, to vote for him in the primary. Therefore, I will be voting for Bob Barr come November because he is the candidate with the promise of individual liberty -- life, liberty and property - - Civil rights, property rights, smaller government, fiscal conservatism. If you think this is wasting my vote, think about what shape government has been in for at least the last 20 years if not 60 with all those people not wasting their votes. Even if my vote doesn't result in a Barr Presidency, it will count as a NOTA vote in regards to the false choice of Obama or McCain.
When the government wants to take your life (capital punishment), they must first convict you of a crime, thus fulfilling the due process clause of the fifth amendment. When they want to take your liberty (imprisonment), they must first convict you of a crime, thus fulfilling the due process clause of the fifth amendment. When they want to take your property, they must hold a city council meeting, condemn your property via eminent domain, and convict you of nothing other than having property someone else is wants to develop. So when exactly did we pass that amendment striking the word property from the due process clause of the fifth amendment? - Brian Jones
#22. To: Jeffersonish (#21)
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. there it is in bold print. i get your point. the majority of government officials only invoke the constitution when it is politically or economically expedient to do so and for We the People, it's just a "GD'ed piece of paper." welcome to 4um, Jeffersonish.
So when exactly did we pass that amendment striking the word property from the due process clause of the fifth amendment?
#23. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#17)
And who the hell do you think created Obama and for what purpose?
#24. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#17)
You are a perfect example that programming the sheep by the ruling elite has worked to perfection. It is quite apparent that you are not now nor ever will be a self thinking person, always willing to be led by others. I find your post to be totally lacking in personal intelligence. Lacking of intellect, honesty and reality, childish.
You go ahead a help put McCain in office and you will have to explain to your children (if you ever have any) why, 20+ years of Marxist Ashkenazi attempts to destroy our country you helped them complete their goal. And when that happens you can pat yourself on the back and say proudly, "yes but I didn't vote for any of those government controlled stooges" while knowing your idealist insanity played a part in helping them destroy our country and ruin the lives of our children and grandchildren.
#25. To: Cynicom (#24)
I couldn't care less what you think. I have no concern when a fool controlled by government propaganda makes such idiotic comments. You want to go live in a fantasy world then it's your choice. Reality is bitch for those like you isn't it? Live in your little dream world while the elite destroy our country. FYI, the Wizard of OZ isn't real. It was all just a movie. Why don't you go over the LP where you will fit right in with the rest of the brain dead fools. I'm sick of people like you helping to destroy our country. Then again, given your comments I wouldn't be surprised if you are packratt or yukon coming over here to try and disrupt this board with your childish comments.
#26. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#14)
Not a really good analogy when the "choice" (such as it is) is between two known quantities, both of whom report to, and bow down to, the same masters (and no, their masters are not the American people other than what mighty few might own some part of a Federal Reserve Bank). A better analogy is to compare it to being in a hijacked bus with an insane driver headed for a cliff at 100 mph and who has no intention of putting on the brakes. Suppose you could switch buses and get in one with another driver, one who is just a wee bit less insane than the first one but he is also headed toward a cliff, only this one is only going 90 mph with no intention of ever hitting the brakes. Does it make a lot of difference whose victim you choose to be? If you vote for McCain or Obama you are voting for being a passenger on the bus with an insane driver who is going to run you off a cliff and you will die whichever bus you're on. I don't vote for the "lesser of two evils" because, for one thing, you can never be absolutely sure which is the lesser. I vote for someone I know isn't evil and then I know the responsibility for the downfall of the nation lies with people who support and vote for evil (as you readily admit you are willing to do). And you say you don't "support" Obama but willingly admit you are going to vote for him. What color is the sky on your home planet?
If you were standing in the middle of a road and a bus was coming at you and you had two choices... stand there and let the bus run over you or jump to the side knowing that if you do you will be in danger of falling off the edge of a steep cliff but that you might, just might, be able to hang on and either pull yourself backup or hang on long enough to be rescued, which one would you do? You allow McCain into office by not voting against him you have said you will stand there and let the bus run over and kill you.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#27. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#25)
LOL...It does not matter what anyone thinks about your posting...You paint a perfect picture of yourself, and it aint nice. Live with it.
I couldn't care less what you think.
#28. To: James Deffenbach (#26)
You really don't understand do you? I have no doubt given his background that McCain is the worst person we could have in the whitehouse. The guy is a nut, he is emotionally unstable, he is completely controlled by the elite and after seeing bush fool so many people twice, 2000 and 2004, I can't believe that anybody in their right mind would allow the destruction of our nation to continue at such an alarming rate. I wonder why being pragmatic is considered such a sin in America now. You have two choices... vote for Obama who will be under much more public and media scrutinity than any other president in modern history and who won't be able to a single thing without extensive media coverage and constant criticizm by virtually every political, economic and military organization in the world. Or you can vote for McCain whose close ties with the bush bunch, neocons and the elite will enable him to do whatever he chooses without any questions from the media or others. And not voting for the lesser of two evils is the same as voting for the greater of two evils. How can you not see what has happened the past 7 years? How the hell did bush get into the whitehouse and get reelected given his background and his obvious lies during the 2000 campaign and his first term? It is because the media covered up virtually everything he and the neocons have done to destroy our country. And McCain's connections/position will enable him to do the very same thing. And your analogy is flawed. You assume that both will result in the same conclusion which is in total error. Obama will be under a microscope and everything he says or does will be made public. The same cannot be said for McCain. The difference between the two is that both are corrupt but one is such an integral part of the elite establishment that anything he does, no matter how how much it hurts America and Americans will be covered up or downplayed while the other's actions will watched under a microscope. That is the difference. A good example is how many people know about the close finanical, business, political and personal relationship between the bush family and the Rev Moon? The media has not reported this and yet it should be front page news. How in the hell can a man have congressmen, right wing religious fanatics, business people and the media downplay/hide the fact that he had himself declared the new messiah in a taxpayer owned government building and that the president of the United States supports him, accepts millions of dollars from him and even goes so far as to agree with him about tearing down crosses in churches and putting up this moron's crown in it's place? But it happened didn't it? I give up. You want to take the highroad knowing full well at the end of the road is a cliff that you will drive off then so be it. I am not foolish enough to assume that my refusal to vote for the lesser of two evils will turn the country around over night.
#29. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#28)
Oh me, oh my, I only have two choices (at least, according to you and I guess you know all things). What happened to my choice to vote according to my conscience or even to not vote at all if there is nothing or no one worth voting for? Did they pass a "law" that requires me to vote for an establishment clown even though I would rather not vote for Tweedledee or his ideological twin Tweedledumber? They must have according to you obummerites because you keep yammering that those worthless choices are the only two any of us have.
You have two choices... vote for Obama who will be under much more public and media scrutinity than any other president in modern history and who won't be able to a single thing without extensive media coverage and constant criticizm by virtually every political, economic and military organization in the world. Or you can vote for McCain whose close ties with the bush bunch, neocons and the elite will enable him to do whatever he chooses without any questions from the media or others.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#30. To: Horse, Jethro Tull (#0)
You can usually get more candor and common sense from black Africans where the white presence is minor than you can anywhere in the PC-wussified West. 'Course you also get tales of disappearing penises, but hey.
They take that as a given.
Keisha Brown, 21, from Chicago, whose mother has a nightgown with a picture of Obama on it, said, “Everything will be different now.”
#31. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#28)
Obama has the same handlers. Meet the future same as the past: How can you not see what has happened the past four years? How the hell did OBAMA get into the whitehouse and get ELECTED given his background and his obvious lies during the 2000eight campaign and his first term? It is because the media covered up virtually everything he and the neocons have done.
How can you not see what has happened the past 7 years? How the hell did bush get into the whitehouse and get reelected given his background and his obvious lies during the 2000 campaign and his first term? It is because the media covered up virtually everything he and the neocons have done to destroy our country.
#32. To: castletrash (#31)
I liked that. We can raise the shades and let the sun shine in but there is no hope for partisan believers that follow the rulers Pied Piper. A Savior has been created from dust by the system for the weak of mind.
How can you not see what has happened the past four years? How the hell did OBAMA get into the whitehouse and get ELECTED given his background and his obvious lies during the 2000eight campaign and his first term? It is because the media covered up virtually everything he and the neocons have done.
#33. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#28)
It appears that you believe your way is the only way to vote. That the others by voting third party or not voting are enablers of McCain. Has it occurred to you that what you are doing is actually the enabler's position? You keep playing the same game--voting for D or voting for R. Essentially you're digging in the same hole, deeper each time, and somehow expect that things are gonna be different. Things just keep rumbling along, with no major differences- -there is just the plumping up of the pillows which make the sofa look new. YOU are the one who is enabling the two-headed single bodied monster party to remain in control--sure, one day the left head prefers french toast while the next day the right head perefers pancakes. BFD. It is the same monster doing the same thing--which is eating!. Voting a different way is voting for the diet the nation needs.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
#34. To: rowdee (#33)
what is sad is I said the same thing in 2000 that I have said here and not only was I correct, bush and the neocons ended up being worse that I imagined they would be. I guess some Americans have given up and are willing to let the destruction of our country continue. Anybody who believes Obama could get away with a small percentage of what bush has and what McCain will if he is elected doesn't live in the real world. He would have trouble keeping what had for breakfast from the media and the public. I guess some Americans have just given up and are willing to accept the worst candidate no matter what. I am beginning to finally realize that some people really don't care about this country. The idea of voting for Obama makes me ill but no where near as much as the thought (nightmare) of McCain getting into office. I have repeatedly tried to get McCain to respond to questions via email and at a couple of McCain supporters meetings and all I have gotten is ignored or physically removed. I guess the future of America is headed to the junkpile.
#35. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#34)
You may believe that your voting for the big "O" is going to save the country, or at least it is your attempt to do so; but the reality is, NOTHING ever changes, except for a bit of fluffing the pillows. They have a lock on running the country, and they plan to keep it that way; and in order to do so, they have to give and take--with each other--screw America, so long as they scratch each others' backs and keep it in the family. I absolutely refuse to play that game, and have refused to do so ever since I ran for office, failed, and spent time working in the state legislature and SAW FOR MYSELF how things really are. You can declare all you want that I'm sticking my head in the sand and letting the country go to hell--so be it. I've already seen that your attempt at playing the game doesn't work. I maintain that so long as you continue digging the same hole in the same way, you cannot expect any different results. I sleep fine at night---I didn't vote for the bastard currently in there, nor the last two before him! I don't have to run around apologizing for having voted for them, nor do I have to run around lying about not voting for them.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
#36. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#34)
BTW, America is heading for the trashpile of history. I don't believe it is because someone is gonna vote for either the nut or the liar. The people themselves have lost their way; they've allowed government to run everything into the ground, they've lost their principles, their morals, and God only knows what else we've been lax in.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
#37. To: castletrash (#31)
Yep, it's so obvious! The same oil-rich plutocrats that bought the White House for the ne're-do-well little faux cowboy, skull and bones, alcoholic, all-American cheerleader, frat boy sat down and said "we got him through two terms (how bout that! HA HA HA!)" Whose next? "I got one! says one of the movers and shakers!" A half black young guy from IL with a (non-practicing) Muslim father from Kenya who abandoned him when he was two and the flakiest white girl mother from KS since Dorothy ... and, his middle name is Hussein! BLAHAHAHA! Sounds like a plan agreed the rest of the power brokers. Let's run with it!
Obama has the same handlers. Meet the future same as the past:
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
#38. To: rowdee (#35)
Cool! Just vote for no-chance losers from the get-go, or just stay home, and no regrets, no apologies for you and disaster for your fellow citizens! Plus you can remain on your sorry ass and keep bitchin.
I sleep fine at night---I didn't vote for the bastard currently in there, nor the last two before him! I don't have to run around apologizing for having voted for them, nor do I have to run around lying about not voting for them.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
#39. To: James Deffenbach (#26)
You are one exceptional individual. You patiently waited for the perfect mate, cautiously selected the pefect career, but had no children because you could not get a guarantee of perfect children? Sounds like quite a life.
I don't vote for the "lesser of two evils" because, for one thing, you can never be absolutely sure which is the lesser.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
#40. To: iconoclast (#38)
Right....I've seen enough of how 'doing it your way' has turned out. :) Regards.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
#41. To: rowdee (#36)
I'm afraid you're right.
BTW, America is heading for the trashpile of history. I don't believe it is because someone is gonna vote for either the nut or the liar. The people themselves have lost their way; they've allowed government to run everything into the ground, they've lost their principles, their morals, and God only knows what else we've been lax in.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
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