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Title: Malik Obama confirms his half-brother Barack grew up a Muslim
Source: Israel Insider
URL Source: http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12918.htm
Published: Jun 15, 2008
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2008-06-15 12:07:38 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 1697
Comments: 69

Apparently the Obamas of Kenya have been reading those scurrilous emails to which Barack likes to refer, because they have no doubt -- contrary to the claims of the Obama campaign, that the presidential candidate was raised a Moslem. They take that as a given.

As the Jerusalem Post reports, "Barack Obama's half brother Malik said Thursday that if elected his brother will be a good president for the Jewish people, despite his Muslim background. In an interview with Army Radio he expressed a special salutation from the Obamas of Kenya."

The Obama brothers' father, a senior economist for the Kenyan government who studied at Harvard University, died in car crash in 1982. He left six sons and a daughter. All of his children - except Malik -- live in Britain or the United States. Malik and Barack met in 1985.

In a remarkable denial issued last November that still stands on the official campaign website, Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs issued a statement explaining that "Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised as a Muslim, and is a committed Christian."

Apparently Malik Obama, himself a Muslim, had not read the press release.

Melanie Phillips is the most recent commentator to draw attention to the massive body of evidence that leaves no doubt that Barak Hussein Obama was born a Muslim (Islam is patrilineal) and raised a Muslim (so registered in school, acknowledging attending Islamic classes, reported accompanying his step-father to the mosque, and able to recite the Koran in the original Arabic).

Reuven Koret, Aaron Klein and Daniel Pipes have previously pointed to the attempts by Obama and his campaign to conceal the candidate's Muslim background. The well documented evidence draws upon the on-the-ground interviews by researchers in Indonesia and Kenya, published quotations of Obama's childhood friends and his school records, as well as the candidate's own autobiography.

It is not clear whether Barack Obama will now disown his half-brother Malik, or throw him under the campaign bus, for acknowledging that shared family background. In any case, some one should notify "Fight the Smear" tout de suite. Perhaps they can get him with the program.


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Instead of attacking the source we ought to come to grips with the fact that Mr Obama lies a lot.

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#24. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#17)

You go ahead a help put McCain in office and you will have to explain to your children (if you ever have any) why, 20+ years of Marxist Ashkenazi attempts to destroy our country you helped them complete their goal. And when that happens you can pat yourself on the back and say proudly, "yes but I didn't vote for any of those government controlled stooges" while knowing your idealist insanity played a part in helping them destroy our country and ruin the lives of our children and grandchildren.

You are a perfect example that programming the sheep by the ruling elite has worked to perfection.

It is quite apparent that you are not now nor ever will be a self thinking person, always willing to be led by others.

I find your post to be totally lacking in personal intelligence. Lacking of intellect, honesty and reality, childish.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-16   4:57:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#24)

I couldn't care less what you think. I have no concern when a fool controlled by government propaganda makes such idiotic comments. You want to go live in a fantasy world then it's your choice. Reality is bitch for those like you isn't it? Live in your little dream world while the elite destroy our country. FYI, the Wizard of OZ isn't real. It was all just a movie. Why don't you go over the LP where you will fit right in with the rest of the brain dead fools. I'm sick of people like you helping to destroy our country. Then again, given your comments I wouldn't be surprised if you are packratt or yukon coming over here to try and disrupt this board with your childish comments.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-06-16   8:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#14)

If you were standing in the middle of a road and a bus was coming at you and you had two choices... stand there and let the bus run over you or jump to the side knowing that if you do you will be in danger of falling off the edge of a steep cliff but that you might, just might, be able to hang on and either pull yourself backup or hang on long enough to be rescued, which one would you do? You allow McCain into office by not voting against him you have said you will stand there and let the bus run over and kill you.

Not a really good analogy when the "choice" (such as it is) is between two known quantities, both of whom report to, and bow down to, the same masters (and no, their masters are not the American people other than what mighty few might own some part of a Federal Reserve Bank). A better analogy is to compare it to being in a hijacked bus with an insane driver headed for a cliff at 100 mph and who has no intention of putting on the brakes. Suppose you could switch buses and get in one with another driver, one who is just a wee bit less insane than the first one but he is also headed toward a cliff, only this one is only going 90 mph with no intention of ever hitting the brakes. Does it make a lot of difference whose victim you choose to be? If you vote for McCain or Obama you are voting for being a passenger on the bus with an insane driver who is going to run you off a cliff and you will die whichever bus you're on.

I don't vote for the "lesser of two evils" because, for one thing, you can never be absolutely sure which is the lesser. I vote for someone I know isn't evil and then I know the responsibility for the downfall of the nation lies with people who support and vote for evil (as you readily admit you are willing to do). And you say you don't "support" Obama but willingly admit you are going to vote for him. What color is the sky on your home planet?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-06-16   8:54:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#25)

I couldn't care less what you think.

LOL...It does not matter what anyone thinks about your posting...You paint a perfect picture of yourself, and it aint nice.

Live with it.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-16   9:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: James Deffenbach (#26)

You really don't understand do you? I have no doubt given his background that McCain is the worst person we could have in the whitehouse. The guy is a nut, he is emotionally unstable, he is completely controlled by the elite and after seeing bush fool so many people twice, 2000 and 2004, I can't believe that anybody in their right mind would allow the destruction of our nation to continue at such an alarming rate. I wonder why being pragmatic is considered such a sin in America now. You have two choices... vote for Obama who will be under much more public and media scrutinity than any other president in modern history and who won't be able to a single thing without extensive media coverage and constant criticizm by virtually every political, economic and military organization in the world. Or you can vote for McCain whose close ties with the bush bunch, neocons and the elite will enable him to do whatever he chooses without any questions from the media or others. And not voting for the lesser of two evils is the same as voting for the greater of two evils.

How can you not see what has happened the past 7 years? How the hell did bush get into the whitehouse and get reelected given his background and his obvious lies during the 2000 campaign and his first term? It is because the media covered up virtually everything he and the neocons have done to destroy our country. And McCain's connections/position will enable him to do the very same thing. And your analogy is flawed. You assume that both will result in the same conclusion which is in total error. Obama will be under a microscope and everything he says or does will be made public. The same cannot be said for McCain. The difference between the two is that both are corrupt but one is such an integral part of the elite establishment that anything he does, no matter how how much it hurts America and Americans will be covered up or downplayed while the other's actions will watched under a microscope. That is the difference.

A good example is how many people know about the close finanical, business, political and personal relationship between the bush family and the Rev Moon? The media has not reported this and yet it should be front page news. How in the hell can a man have congressmen, right wing religious fanatics, business people and the media downplay/hide the fact that he had himself declared the new messiah in a taxpayer owned government building and that the president of the United States supports him, accepts millions of dollars from him and even goes so far as to agree with him about tearing down crosses in churches and putting up this moron's crown in it's place? But it happened didn't it?

I give up. You want to take the highroad knowing full well at the end of the road is a cliff that you will drive off then so be it. I am not foolish enough to assume that my refusal to vote for the lesser of two evils will turn the country around over night.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-06-16   9:34:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#28)

You have two choices... vote for Obama who will be under much more public and media scrutinity than any other president in modern history and who won't be able to a single thing without extensive media coverage and constant criticizm by virtually every political, economic and military organization in the world. Or you can vote for McCain whose close ties with the bush bunch, neocons and the elite will enable him to do whatever he chooses without any questions from the media or others.

Oh me, oh my, I only have two choices (at least, according to you and I guess you know all things). What happened to my choice to vote according to my conscience or even to not vote at all if there is nothing or no one worth voting for? Did they pass a "law" that requires me to vote for an establishment clown even though I would rather not vote for Tweedledee or his ideological twin Tweedledumber? They must have according to you obummerites because you keep yammering that those worthless choices are the only two any of us have.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-06-16   10:00:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Horse, Jethro Tull (#0)

They take that as a given.

You can usually get more candor and common sense from black Africans where the white presence is minor than you can anywhere in the PC-wussified West.

'Course you also get tales of disappearing penises, but hey.

Keisha Brown, 21, from Chicago, whose mother has a nightgown with a picture of Obama on it, said, “Everything will be different now.”

Tauzero  posted on  2008-06-16   10:38:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#28)

How can you not see what has happened the past 7 years? How the hell did bush get into the whitehouse and get reelected given his background and his obvious lies during the 2000 campaign and his first term? It is because the media covered up virtually everything he and the neocons have done to destroy our country.

Obama has the same handlers. Meet the future same as the past:

How can you not see what has happened the past four years? How the hell did OBAMA get into the whitehouse and get ELECTED given his background and his obvious lies during the 2000eight campaign and his first term? It is because the media covered up virtually everything he and the neocons have done.

castletrash  posted on  2008-06-16   11:02:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: castletrash (#31)

How can you not see what has happened the past four years? How the hell did OBAMA get into the whitehouse and get ELECTED given his background and his obvious lies during the 2000eight campaign and his first term? It is because the media covered up virtually everything he and the neocons have done.

I liked that.

We can raise the shades and let the sun shine in but there is no hope for partisan believers that follow the rulers Pied Piper.

A Savior has been created from dust by the system for the weak of mind.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-16   11:19:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#28)

It appears that you believe your way is the only way to vote. That the others by voting third party or not voting are enablers of McCain. Has it occurred to you that what you are doing is actually the enabler's position?

You keep playing the same game--voting for D or voting for R. Essentially you're digging in the same hole, deeper each time, and somehow expect that things are gonna be different. Things just keep rumbling along, with no major differences- -there is just the plumping up of the pillows which make the sofa look new.

YOU are the one who is enabling the two-headed single bodied monster party to remain in control--sure, one day the left head prefers french toast while the next day the right head perefers pancakes. BFD. It is the same monster doing the same thing--which is eating!. Voting a different way is voting for the diet the nation needs.

Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-06-16   11:59:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: rowdee (#33)

what is sad is I said the same thing in 2000 that I have said here and not only was I correct, bush and the neocons ended up being worse that I imagined they would be. I guess some Americans have given up and are willing to let the destruction of our country continue. Anybody who believes Obama could get away with a small percentage of what bush has and what McCain will if he is elected doesn't live in the real world. He would have trouble keeping what had for breakfast from the media and the public. I guess some Americans have just given up and are willing to accept the worst candidate no matter what. I am beginning to finally realize that some people really don't care about this country.

The idea of voting for Obama makes me ill but no where near as much as the thought (nightmare) of McCain getting into office. I have repeatedly tried to get McCain to respond to questions via email and at a couple of McCain supporters meetings and all I have gotten is ignored or physically removed. I guess the future of America is headed to the junkpile.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-06-16   21:42:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#34)

You may believe that your voting for the big "O" is going to save the country, or at least it is your attempt to do so; but the reality is, NOTHING ever changes, except for a bit of fluffing the pillows. They have a lock on running the country, and they plan to keep it that way; and in order to do so, they have to give and take--with each other--screw America, so long as they scratch each others' backs and keep it in the family.

I absolutely refuse to play that game, and have refused to do so ever since I ran for office, failed, and spent time working in the state legislature and SAW FOR MYSELF how things really are.

You can declare all you want that I'm sticking my head in the sand and letting the country go to hell--so be it. I've already seen that your attempt at playing the game doesn't work. I maintain that so long as you continue digging the same hole in the same way, you cannot expect any different results.

I sleep fine at night---I didn't vote for the bastard currently in there, nor the last two before him! I don't have to run around apologizing for having voted for them, nor do I have to run around lying about not voting for them.

Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-06-16   22:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#34)

BTW, America is heading for the trashpile of history. I don't believe it is because someone is gonna vote for either the nut or the liar. The people themselves have lost their way; they've allowed government to run everything into the ground, they've lost their principles, their morals, and God only knows what else we've been lax in.

Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-06-16   22:03:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: castletrash (#31)

Obama has the same handlers. Meet the future same as the past:

Yep, it's so obvious!

The same oil-rich plutocrats that bought the White House for the ne're-do-well little faux cowboy, skull and bones, alcoholic, all-American cheerleader, frat boy sat down and said "we got him through two terms (how bout that! HA HA HA!)"

Whose next? "I got one! says one of the movers and shakers!" A half black young guy from IL with a (non-practicing) Muslim father from Kenya who abandoned him when he was two and the flakiest white girl mother from KS since Dorothy ... and, his middle name is Hussein! BLAHAHAHA!

Sounds like a plan agreed the rest of the power brokers. Let's run with it!

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-06-16   22:08:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: rowdee (#35)

I sleep fine at night---I didn't vote for the bastard currently in there, nor the last two before him! I don't have to run around apologizing for having voted for them, nor do I have to run around lying about not voting for them.

Cool!

Just vote for no-chance losers from the get-go, or just stay home, and no regrets, no apologies for you and disaster for your fellow citizens!

Plus you can remain on your sorry ass and keep bitchin.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-06-16   22:15:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: James Deffenbach (#26)

I don't vote for the "lesser of two evils" because, for one thing, you can never be absolutely sure which is the lesser.

You are one exceptional individual.

You patiently waited for the perfect mate, cautiously selected the pefect career, but had no children because you could not get a guarantee of perfect children?

Sounds like quite a life.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-06-16   22:25:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: iconoclast (#38)

Right....I've seen enough of how 'doing it your way' has turned out. :) Regards.

Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-06-16   22:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: rowdee (#36)

BTW, America is heading for the trashpile of history. I don't believe it is because someone is gonna vote for either the nut or the liar. The people themselves have lost their way; they've allowed government to run everything into the ground, they've lost their principles, their morals, and God only knows what else we've been lax in.

I'm afraid you're right.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-06-17   7:13:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: iconoclast (#39)

You are one exceptional individual.

Well hell's bells, you like Obummer so I consider that damning me with faint praise.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-06-17   9:23:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#34)

I guess some Americans have just given up and are willing to accept the worst candidate no matter what.

Yes, it is obvious that some Americans have given up and that is born out by the fact that they will vote for pure scumbags like Obama and McCain. And even tell other people they are going to. Back in the days of the founders people would never have admitted to voting for people like that, they would have been ashamed of it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-06-17   9:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: James Deffenbach (#43)

Yes, it is obvious that some Americans have given up

Just stuck-in-time old farts.

The young people's response to Paul and Obama is exciting.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-06-18   0:44:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: iconoclast (#44)

The young people's response to Paul and Obama is exciting.

Young people, old people, and people of all ages who have been conned by Obama only prove Barnum's wise adage that there is a sucker born every minute.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-06-18   9:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: James Deffenbach, Iconoclast (#45) (Edited)

The young people's response to Paul .... is exciting.

FARRRRR - More than Paul's response to his constituents ... IMHO.

Anyone that promotes the current State of Israel is either a fascist zionazi, a rapture nutter or simply too stupid to be considered.

noone222  posted on  2008-06-18   9:15:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: James Deffenbach (#45)

You don't live in the real world do you? You can't name a politician that is not influenced or controlled by the elite. The difference between you and those who see what is happening is we don't lock ourselves away in some little fantasy world and pat ourselves on the back for being idealistic. We see what is happening and are willing to do things that will slow or hopefully stop the destruction of America.

Go off to your little dream world and wait for the toothfairy, Easter Bunny and Santa. The rest of us will continue to work to try and deal with reality and undermine the damage being done by the politicians and those like yourself.

Here are a couple of sites that you can probably spend most of your time on.

www.conspiracyarchive.com/

www.illuminati-news.com/moriah.htm

skepdic.com/illuminati.html

www.illuminati.org/index.php/Main_Page

www.illuminati-news.com/

www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/illumin.htm

www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-illuminati.htm

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-06-18   10:03:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#47)

You can't name a politician that is not influenced or controlled by the elite.

You're right, chuckles, I can't name a politician who isn't controlled by the elite and that would include your boy, Obummer. I can name a STATESMAN who isn't controlled by them and that is Ron Paul. And if you think that your boy is going to slow down or stop the destruction the elite has planned for this country you are the one who lives in a dream world and whose sky is probably not the same color as everyone else's.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-06-18   12:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: noone222 (#46)

The young people's response to Paul .... is exciting.

FARRRRR - More than Paul's response to his constituents ... IMHO.

Ah, once more petty peevishness trumps reality, and slouches back to its cynical retreat.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-06-18   19:58:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: James Deffenbach (#45)

a sucker born every minute.

And a tired old man with a bitter old heart dies ever minute.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-06-18   20:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Horse (#0)

Malik Obama confirms his half-brother Barack grew up a Muslim

Thanks for the post, Horse, but it was unnecessary.

I'm sure few of us make political decisions without consulting the israelinsider.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-06-18   20:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: James Deffenbach (#48)

So when Ron Paul moves into the whitehouse in January, you think things will change?

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-06-18   20:53:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: iconoclast (#50)

And a tired old man with a bitter old heart dies ever minute.

I bet he gets tired of that $#it, that dying every minute.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-06-18   21:00:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: James Deffenbach (#53)

I bet he gets tired of that $#it, that dying every minute.

Your name is legion.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-06-18   22:00:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: iconoclast (#51)

Statements are either true or false and do not depend upon the publication source.

I would be more likely to vote for Obama if he were a practicing Muslim.

But I will not vote for anyone who lies about every detail of his life.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2008-06-18   23:11:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: christine (#22)

nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

there it is in bold print. i get your point. the majority of government officials only invoke the constitution when it is politically or economically expedient to do so and for We the People, it's just a "GD'ed piece of paper."

welcome to 4um, Jeffersonish.

Thanks christine,

It took me a post or two to realize I needed to add some formatting to my tagline which must have seemed like a non-sequitor in relation to the rest of my post here. At any rate, I did mean that question about the fifth amendment to be rhetorical.

Thank you for your reference attributed to Bush about the Constitution being just a GD'ed piece of paper. I became a rabid activist for liberty not long BEFORE I read that one, but that and Gonzales' refutation of the right to habeas corpus, and the passing of the PATRIOT Act were things that stoked the fire of rebellion -- peaceful of course ;-) -- deep into my heart. I now realize how foolhardy we have been collectively to let the government gain more and more control not only during the Bush administration, but for the span of my lifetime and for many years prior.

And Thanks for the welcome -- Glad to be here.

When the government wants to take your life (capital punishment), they must first convict you of a crime, thus fulfilling the due process clause of the 5th amendment. When they want to take your liberty (imprisonment), they must first convict you of a crime, thus fulfilling the due process clause of the fifth amendment. When they want to take your property, they must hold a city council meeting, condemn your property via eminent domain, and convict you of nothing other than having property someone else is wants to develop. So when exactly did we pass that amendment striking the word property from the due process clause of the fifth amendment? - Brian Jones

Jeffersonish  posted on  2008-06-18   23:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: iconoclast (#49)

Ah, once more petty peevishness trumps reality, and slouches back to its cynical retreat.

Go beat your wife or little sister fuck-head.

Anyone that promotes the current State of Israel is either a fascist zionazi, a rapture nutter or simply too stupid to be considered.

noone222  posted on  2008-06-19   18:35:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: noone222 (#57)

Go beat your wife or little sister fuck-head.

Took you almost 23 hours to come up with that highly intellectual and adult retort? (snort)

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-06-19   19:57:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#2)

When are you going to wake up and stop posting propaganda. You're falling right into the neocon Hegelian dialectic trap.

Claim: Illinoise Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-07   17:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Horse, Jethro Tull (#0)

Instead of attacking the source we ought to come to grips with the fact that Mr Obama lies a lot.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-07   17:59:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Old Friend (#59)

Like I said before, this is an edited version. This is not what was said. It was twisted to take it out of context. Do you really fall for the neocon propaganda crap? If so, I pray most Americans have more common sense.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-09-08   21:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#2)

It's funny how Jethro and his friends are all too happy to quote some Israeli paper bashing Obama - because they really, really want McCain in the WH - while accusing Obama of being a tool of the Jews.

How stupid is THAT?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-08   21:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Jeffersonish (#21)

I consider voting for most Republicans and Democrats to be worse than wasting my vote. By voting for them, I am saying, "OUCH! Please Sir, may I have another."

Exactly.

AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/NAACP/FEDERAL RESERVE/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA & HOLLYWOOD: Oh, those Islamofascists.

wbales  posted on  2008-09-08   21:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: James Deffenbach (#43) (Edited)

Yes, it is obvious that some Americans have given up and that is born out by the fact that they will vote for pure scumbags like Obama and McCain.

Scientific fact.

Only idiots will vote for Obama.

Only idiots will vote for McCain.

AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/NAACP/FEDERAL RESERVE/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA & HOLLYWOOD: Oh, those Islamofascists.

wbales  posted on  2008-09-08   22:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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