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Title: Indict Michael Reagan, Applaud Senator Karen Johnson
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URL Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd369.htm
Published: Jun 16, 2008
Author: Devvy Kidd
Post Date: 2008-06-16 09:24:45 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 780
Comments: 49

“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.” Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s Minister of Propaganda

It takes a lot to shock me anymore, but indeed, shock is what registered when I listened to talk show host, Michael Reagan, blast these words during the second hour of his show, June 10, 2008:

Partial transcript of Reagan’s statements which can be heard here (3:12 minutes):

“Excuse me folks, I'm going to say this. We ought to find the people who are doing this, take them out and shoot them. Really. You take them out, they are traitors to this country, and shoot them. You have a problem with that? Deal with it. You shoot them. You call them traitors, that's what they are, and you shoot them dead. I’ll pay for the bullets. ”Reagan adds, “How about you take Mark Dice out and put him in the middle of a firing range. Tie him to a post, don't blindfold him, let it rip and have some fun with Mark Dice.”

At the end when Reagan says "...these people are just outrageous," I assume it's Reagan's engineer says, "Now you know where the Ron Paul supporters went."

I don't listen to Michael Reagan's show. Like so many others, to me it's just more noise because the serious questions never get asked. The real discussions about issues like the privately owned Federal Reserve, the mis application of the federal income tax, his father's role in the cover up of what really happened to KAL Flight 007, will never happen on his show. He's just another useful fool with his partisan politics. Here and there I've seen Michael Reagan on gab fest programs like Shallow Sean Hannity (FAUX News Network) and never found him to be very intelligent. Fate dealt him a good hand when he was adopted by a popular movie star and future U.S. president.

When I first listened to this segment from his show, I thought, if I said the same thing about Dick Cheney on the air, the FBI would be at my door before the next commercial break. What else can you call what Reagan specifically outlined but solicitation for murder? He's telling his listening audience to go hunt down people who question the government's version of 911 and when you find them, shoot them. Shoot them dead. This wasn't satire. Michael Reagan went so far over the line, he shouldn't just be reprimanded by his boss, he should be charged and indicted.

Who is Mark Dice? I had never heard of him until this happened. It appears he's a 911 activist who has joined with others in a project to present information about 911 to the troops in Iraq. These packages going to active duty soldiers in a war zone was covered on FOX in a 5:12 minute interview with Dice and Megyn Kelly. You can watch this short video here. This is very reminiscent of what happened a long time ago which resulted in what became known as the 'Great Sedition Trial of 1944,' where the defendants were charged with trying to incite mutiny within the troops during WWII; they were not convicted. Dice has filed a report with the FBI.

911 is a very divisive issue and the raw hatred spewed by those who believe the government's version of events, whether their political loyalty is the "right" or "left" is thick as molasses in this country. Michael Reagan's soliciting the murder of Americans for exercising their First Amendment Right (not privilege) is by far and away the most extreme example to date. Americans who do take the time to investigate for themselves the credible research on this issue have found the government's version lacking, including family members who lost loved ones that day. I suppose if the "Jersey Girls" sent their DVD to the troops in Iraq (and Afghanistan), Michael Reagan would include these widows on his list of Americans to be hunted down, killed and he'll pay for the bullets.

One thing I find astounding is the absolute black out of ANY media coverage on Reagan's death threats and solicitation of murder. When I submitted this column two days ago to NWVs, I had been checking all the web sites that are popular, "left" and "right": Huffington Post, Truthout.org, Drudge, Worldnetdaily, FOX, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, etc. Nothing. The exposure has been on independent Internet web sites as well as Dice's, but not a single word has been said about Michael Reagan's call to kill Americans from any "mainstream" media source. Where is the condemnation from any of the MSM and all those web sites? They didn't know about it? Bollocks! It was broadcast live to a huge listening audience. Because Reagan is the son of a former president? That does not excuse what he's done and this is not "protected speech" under the First Amendment, which I fiercely defend even if I disagree with it.

A remarkable woman steps forward on 911

Senator Karen Johnson has served in the Arizona State Legislature for almost two decades. She is retiring at the end of this session. It has been my honor and privilege to know Senator Johnson. Back in April 2008, Karen was pummeled by the press in Arizona because she dared speak about 911 with some pointed observations and questions. On April 24, 2008, The Arizona-Republic, published a hit piece on her. This piece of drivel is titled, 'Drinking the 9/11 Kool-Aid.' As you can see by reading it, the author believes that no elected official should question any aspect of the Bush Administration's fairy tale of the events about September 11, 2001. This has been the prevailing attitude of the so-called mainstream media, including cable "news" networks since that day. Anyone questioning the hoax perpetrated on the American people is a Kool-Aid drinker or a traitor.

On June 10, 2008, Karen gave a floor speech on 911. She reinforced that millions, not a few "Bush haters," but millions of Americans want a real investigation into 911. She did not exaggerate. I hope you will take ten minutes to watch this amazing woman do what thousands of cowards in public service won't do: Demand a real investigation into the 911 crimes. Before she began her speech, Karen made a packet of information available to every member in the senate. She sincerely and politely asked them to take the time to look at the documentation. She asked them to open their eyes. Such an entreaty was also given by Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775:

"It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a paintful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous strugle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who having eyes seen not, and having ears hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth -- to know the worst and to provide for it."

In Michael Reagan's eyes, this courageous woman is a traitor to this country for questioning 911 and asking for a real investigation. She explains in her speech why a new investigation is needed and it's based on facts, not conspiracy theories. If questioning our government, even during a war based on nothing but lies, is considered an act of treason and we should all be hunted down and shot, then millions of Americans, me included, are guilty. We demand the truth and we will continue to fight for the truth. Senator Karen Johnson deserves our thanks and respect. Michael Reagan deserves our contempt and jail time.

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#3. To: christine (#0)

Michael Reagan went so far over the line, he shouldn't just be reprimanded by his boss, he should be charged and indicted.

No but HELL no.

That would be going down the same path as Reagan. We either have freedom of speech or we do not.

We have already compromised "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" far too much to accommodate the PC people of this country.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-16   9:33:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

You confuse freedom of speech with responsible speech need to do a little more book learning.

robnoel  posted on  2008-06-16   9:38:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robnoel (#4)

You confuse freedom of speech with responsible speech need to do a little more book learning.

Perhaps.

When the "government" decides what is responsible speech, we have a problem. The reason being is that a small minority decides the issue for all. This Country got along very well until the government became the master and decided what was best for all.

Your book learning remark is well taken as to your attitude towards others.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-16   10:05:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#8)

I'm in the business and I take my responsibility to my listeners very seriously advocating violence to achive a political outcome is sinking to the level of blacks in Africa ie

In March 1992, Radio Rwanda was first used in directly promoting the killing of Tutsi in a place called Bugesera, south of the national capital. On 3 March, the radio repeatedly broadcast a communiqué supposedly sent by a human rights group based in Nairobi warning that Hutu in Bugesera would be attacked by Tutsi. Local officials built on the radio announcement to convince Hutu that they needed to protect themselves by attacking first. Led by soldiers from a nearby military base, Hutu civilians, members of the Interahamwe, a militia attached to the MRND party, and local Hutu civilians attacked and killed hundreds of thousands of Tutsi

I do find it interesting that left-wing talk show hosts get yanked for saying far less than the likes of Savage and Regan!

robnoel  posted on  2008-06-16   10:16:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: robnoel (#11)

People are free to listen to whomever they desire.

With that comes the freedom to speak ones own mind, regardless of offense. We have already started down that path with our "hate speech", forced upon the majority by a small minority. Allowing the government to decide what is acceptable and what is not is best illustrated by one of the very first laws promulgated by the Jews in Russia, post 1918, making spoken or written anti-semitism a felony, punishable by hanging.

And hang they did, untold numbers of the majority were hung by a tiny minority.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-16   11:41:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#19)

Don't mix up advocating violence with freedom of speech I agree with you that the soon to be passed "hate speech" legislation meets your "forced upon the majority by a small minority" however as one who speaks out about the effects of"zionism" both Jewish and Christian my experience is one tends to attract more bees with honey as opposed to vinegar

robnoel  posted on  2008-06-16   11:59:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: robnoel (#23)

Don't mix up advocating violence with freedom of speech

Once again you are willing to have the government decide which is which.

You are either for freedom of speech or total government control, we cannot have both.

I am well olde enough to remember this would have been a discussion of scorn by all Americans. Now people are willing to take this away, and take that away, let others decide what is free speech and what is violence.

The extreme has been with us for some time, to threaten the life of the President is illegal but the reverse is NOT true. He may say anything he likes with no recourse.

Erosion of free speech goes steadily on, day after day, because too many people are willing to do away with this or that speech that offends them. When Reagan shoots whomever, actually does the deed then the government is involved.

Squelching his free speech does not stop him from shooting anyone. Presidents are sitting ducks, always, but look how many come under the gun.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-16   12:12:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#24)

You are either for freedom of speech or total government control, we cannot have both.

I don't see where all the sudden its one or the other.

Society governs speech in many ways. Ever tell a teacher to go to hell? How'd your

mom Take it when you sassed her? Do you really tell your boss what you think? Some thoughts

need to be censored, expressed only in proper venues and if not than you accept responsibility.

castletrash  posted on  2008-06-16   12:42:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: castletrash (#27)

I don't see where all the sudden its one or the other.

Society governs speech in many ways. Ever tell a teacher to go to hell? How'd your

mom Take it when you sassed her? Do you really tell your boss what you think? Some thoughts

need to be censored, expressed only in proper venues and if not than you accept responsibility.

It has always been..Freedom of Speech...slowly but surely the people themselves found JUST CAUSE to give it away, a piece at a time. One is either for it or not.

"Society governs speech in many ways. Ever tell a teacher to go to hell? Saw it and heard it happen many times in the 1930s/40. One took a swing at a teacher, teacher decked him, no cops, no law, nothing. He was expelled for three days.

" How'd your mom Take it when you sassed her? She smacked me a good one aside the melon, no cops, nothing. That was BEFORE the goodie two shoes decided parents had no rights, remember?

" Do you really tell your boss what you think? DID many times and people still do, not yet illegal but soon will be if people keep on giving.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-16   18:13:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#28)

Evidently the impotent little whine-asses in this country aren't going to let this go until the 1st Amendment is stomped as dead as that baby on the side of the road.

For Christ sakes, he was just talking shit, nobody was hurt or killed. The idiots are playing right into the government's hand.

Esso  posted on  2008-06-16   18:29:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Esso (#29)

The idiots are playing right into the government's hand.

Amen...

When words become weapons of violence as defined by the "government" we are all in deep trouble.

One day we will wake up with NO free speech and wonder where it went and who took it.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-16   19:35:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#30) (Edited)

When words become weapons of violence as defined by the "government" we are all in deep trouble.

Don't be ridiculous. The government is practically the one making the threats.

Reagan should be permanently shit-canned, banned from radio, but that's unlikely to happen. The reason for that is because this country is governed by the rule of ZOG and ZOGbot Reagan's programmed for carrying ZOG's water here.

Besides, zionists enjoy issuing death threats, and following through on them, too much to be stopping now.

So, the classic ZOG-plant move here or elsewhere would be to sucker people into making death threats by suggesting that death threats are not designed to shut people up permanently.

ZOGdog Reagan's only worry might be if ZOG, through the FCC, decides they want to pretend they aren't ZOG for a while, in which case some offical ZOGbots most likely would be able to secretly assure him beforehand that it's all for show and he's not really in trouble. Of course that's probably what they told Tim Osman...

nobody  posted on  2008-06-16   21:07:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: nobody (#31)

Reagan should be permanently shit-canned, banned from radio, but that's unlikely to happen.

Fine with me, except if you reread the article, there is a call for arrest, indictment and jail for running his mouth.

We wither protect free speech or we do not.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-16   22:03:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#34. To: Cynicom (#33) (Edited)

arrest, indictment and jail

All the FCC can do is fine his employer and take him off the air.

People are already saying it's not a credible threat, which would be a decisive issue from the criminal law viewpoint if accepted, but not decisive to the FCC, theoretically, because they have additional licensing-type standards.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-16 22:10:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#33)

Many years ago Claire Wolfe said ...America's at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.....and World Net Daily dropped her in a heart beat...this is her last known web page

www.billstclair.com/clairewolfe.com/blog.html

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