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Title: Critics Demand Resignation of U.N. Official Who Wants Probe of 9/11 'Inside Job' Theories
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,369122,00.html
Published: Jun 19, 2008
Author: Joseph Abrams
Post Date: 2008-06-19 16:01:21 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 2300
Comments: 150

Critics are calling for the resignation of a U.N. official who publicly supports investigating theories that the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were an "inside job."

Richard Falk, the special rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories, investigates alleged Israeli violations of human rights law for the U.N.'s Human Rights Council.

But the former Princeton professor would also like to investigate whether "some sort of controlled explosion from within" destroyed the Twin Towers, he told FOXNews.com.

"I do think there are questions that haven't been answered, questions about the way the buildings collapsed and the failure to heed a variety of signals that there was danger coming," Falk said.

"I think [his beliefs are] fruitcake city, but among many delegations to the U.N. it's probably the conventional wisdom," said John Bolton, a former U.S. ambassador to the U.N. known for his straight talk on U.N. hypocrisy.

But Hillel Neuer, executive director of U.N. Watch, a non-governmental organization that monitors the U.N., wants Falk removed from his job.

"He should resign," said Neuer, who raised concerns about Falk's ability to be an objective observer. Neuer has also criticized Falk for being biased against Israel.

"If he were a principled person he would recognize the fact that he has very extreme views," Neuer said.

In 2004, Falk wrote the forward to "The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11," a book written by David Ray Griffin, a Sept. 11 conspiracy theorist.

Griffin's book argues that the Twin Towers may have been brought down by a "controlled demolition" — not by two airliners hijacked by Al Qaeda operatives — and that the Pentagon may not have been hit by a plane at all.

Griffin "doesn't take a so-called conspiracy view and he raises questions that haven't been answered," Falk told FOXNews.com. "I think [the book] deserved to be published and I have no regrets about that."

Falk said that while he supports alternative theories behind the World Trade Center attack, he doesn't claim the U.S. government was responsible.

"I'm an agnostic on the issue," he said.

But Bolton is hardly agnostic on the issue of Falk's views.

"It's just an example of the inmates running the asylum," Bolton said. "It's a particularly graphic example for Americans, but this is not an aberration — this is, unfortunately, typical of much of what goes on" at the U.N.

A spokesman for the office of Louise Arbour, the U.N. high commissioner for human rights, declined to comment on Falk.

"As a matter of practice, we do not offer commentaries on individual special rapporteurs," wrote spokesman Rupert Colville in an e-mail to FOXNews.com. "There are some 27 of them in all, and if we started making character judgments on one or two of them, it would never stop. They are mandated to do their work by the Human Rights Council."

But Falk's support for Sept. 11 conspiracy theories isn't the only thing that has critics up in arms.

In an online article for the Transnational Foundation for Peace and Future Research last year, Falk — prior to his appointment as an unbiased human rights investigator — compared Israeli actions in Gaza to the Nazi treatment of Jews. This may have led to his appointment as the rapporteur for the Palestinian territories, Bolton said.

"He was picked for a reason, and the reason is not to have an objective assessment — the objective is to find more ammunition to go after Israel," Bolton said.

Neuer said Falk is not the only special rapporteur to bring a bias to the job. "You have people who are, I would say, a wolf in sheep's clothing who are implementing the agenda of dictatorships," he said.

"It's tragic because there are human rights victims around the world who could greatly benefit from a champion, including in the Middle East. ...

"Many of the rapporteurs do good work, do important work, report on how countries are respecting or not respecting laws around the world," Neuer said.

Falk maintained he was an appropriate choice for the job. "I think I'm an informed observer and I'm unbiased in the sense that I have always done the best to tell the truth as I see it," he said.

Despite his calls for Falk's resignation, Neuer did not expect him to be censured or removed.

"I don't think there's going to be any move in the council to do anything about his appointment," he said.

Falk, asked whether he'd be surprised if further investigations revealed the U.S. government's role in Sept. 11, told FOXNews.com, "Yes, I'd be surprised — not shocked but surprised."

He then reconsidered, and said: "No, I'd be shocked."


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#88. To: FormerLurker (#80) (Edited)

RickyJ: When they have to resort to the "Jew hater" slogan they are losing the argument badly.

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FormerLurker: Who used that phrase on this thread other than you?

FormerLurker: You make this site look like a jew-hating site and cause a casual reader to think this place is nothing more than a whackjob site full of jew-haters.

You DID! Damn, are you really that dense?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-24   0:12:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: christine (#73)
(Edited)

ALL JEWS ARE ZIONISTS AT HEART

99% of "Jews" are obvious Zionists, the other 1% is not accepted by the 99% as true "Jews".

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-24   0:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: FormerLurker (#45)

It has become very obvious over the years that biggest and loudest "anti-semites" are usually Zionists (AIPAC, JINSA, Mossad, Hasbara, and other slime) who use "over the top" anti-Jewish comments to discredit a line of inquiry with outrageous and hate filled sniping.

I think you've nailed it OI. And I think that very much applies to our little friend here, nobody...

Thanks, and I think you nailed "nobody's" schtick.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-06-24   0:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Original_Intent (#90)

Thanks, and I think you nailed "nobody's" schtick.

Unfortunatly, he's not the ONLY one of his kind around here. I think it's quite apparent who I'm talking about, his name begins with Ricky and ends with J.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   0:33:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: FormerLurker (#83)

Do you burn crosses in your yard on the 4th of July and lynch a few niggers just for grins and giggles?

Equating Jews and African-Americans is standard PC BS.

"Jews" are NOT a race, got it?

"Jews" are a sick demented group that follows the Talmud. They worship Lucifer. Jesus told us about them in the New Testament. He didn't lie.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-24   0:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: RickyJ (#89)

99% of "Jews" are obvious Zionists, the other 1% is not accepted by the 99% as true "Jews".

That's like saying 99% of the Christians are members of the KKK, or that 99% of the Muslims are members of Al-Qaeda.

You love to hate people because of their religion, and probably view yourself "on the side of the lord" if you aren't an outright atheist.

Or at least that's the sort of character you're playing here on this forum.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   0:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: RickyJ (#92)

Jesus told us about them in the New Testament

You get the idea that Jesus is God due to the prophecies of the Jewish religion. In fact, Jesus was a Jew. Do you hate him too?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   0:38:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: RickyJ (#92)

They worship Lucifer.

No, the Masons are the ones who worship that entity.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   0:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: RickyJ (#92) (Edited)

Equating Jews and African-Americans is standard PC BS.

"Jews" are NOT a race, got it?

I didn't say that Judaism was a race, it is of course a religion, just as Catholicism is a religion. Catholicism is of course the religion that first put the texts together that are now called the New Testatment.

Regardless, it didn't stop rednecks down south from joining the KKK, who hate not just negroes, but JEWS and CATHOLICS. You'd think they worship satan or something, perhaps they do.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   0:44:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Original_Intent, nobody, FormerLurker, Old Friend, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, christine, angle, Lodwick, Kamala, Buckeye, all (#10)

I don't see any disinformationist/zionists on this thread. I see misunderstanding between what I know so far to be mostly like-minded posters here. As far as 9/11 and Zionists go anyway.

My two cents for what it's worth.

I feel humbled to post at 4um. Alot of great minds.

Some nice links here:

Jewish Opposition to Zionism

Difference between Judaism and Zionism

Judaism is not Zionism

Ten Questions To The Zionists Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT"L Dean of Nitra Yeshiva

THE LIFE OF AN AMERICAN JEW IN RACIST MARXIST ISRAEL (Part 1)

Excerpt: "In Germany, the average Jews were victims of the Zionist elite who worked hand in hand with the Nazis. Many of those same Zionist Jews who, in Germany, had worked with the Nazis, came to Israel and joined hands with the Zionist/Communist Jews from Poland and Russia. It is the two faces of communism and Nazi-style fascism that rule Israel. Democracy is merely an illusion." – Jack Bernstein

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration the Nazis ...

THE JEWS OF IRAQ - TESTIMONY OF A FORMER ZIONIST


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-24   0:46:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: FormerLurker (#91)

"Unfortunately, he's not the ONLY one of his kind around here. I think it's quite apparent who I'm talking about, his name begins with Ricky and ends with J."

Everything Ricky Retardo touches turns to ruin. The best thing one can have is him playing straight man psychopath completely against your advocacy. Having him argue with you on any issue gives it a boost up which has always made me wonder about this guy.

Nobody plays as dumb as him unless they are working an agenda. I've thought much the same about him for quite a while.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-24   0:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: All (#97)

I don't see any disinformationist/zionists on this thread.

Okay, maybe one.


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-24   0:51:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: All (#99)

#100


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-24   0:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: RickyJ (#88)

You DID! Damn, are you really that dense?

Idiot. I didn't call anyone a jew-hater, I said people such as you and nobody make the entire site appear to be jew-haters, more than likely by design.

Although I WILL call you that now, as you DO obviously hate them.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   0:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Ferret Mike (#98)

Nobody plays as dumb as him unless they are working an agenda. I've thought much the same about him for quite a while.

Thanks Mike, it's good to know that I'm not the only one here who has noticed it.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   0:54:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: wudidiz (#97)

It is the two faces of communism and Nazi-style fascism that rule Israel. Democracy is merely an illusion." – Jack Bernstein

Excellent info and links. Thanks.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   0:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: FormerLurker, Original_Intent (#103)

I got the links from one of O_I's posts.


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-24   1:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: FormerLurker (#93)

You love to hate people because of their religion...

When did I say I hate Jews, Muslims, or even PC liberals that believe in global warming?

Not liking what people believe and do is not the same thing as hating them. You are quick to accuse people of being haters. The ADL is also quick to accuse people of being haters.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-24   1:07:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: FormerLurker (#96)

Regardless, it didn't stop rednecks down south from joining the KKK, who hate not just negroes, but JEWS and CATHOLICS. You'd think they worship satan or something, perhaps they do.

Now you are slandering Southerners? Dude, take some medicine and step away from the computer.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-24   1:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: RickyJ (#105)

When did I say I hate Jews, Muslims, or even PC liberals that believe in global warming?

Not liking what people believe and do is not the same thing as hating them. You are quick to accuse people of being haters. The ADL is also quick to accuse people of being haters.

You lump ALL Jews into the web of those who you see as the cause of the world's misery. Is that simply not LIKING Jews because of their ancestry or religious beliefs, or is that downright HATE?

HATE is an irrational emotion that is bred from ignorance. Do you see yourself as an enlightened individual, where you view all Jews as the cause of your woes?

And BTW, neocon smear artists are quick to call an educated person a "PC liberal" if they happen to present information that is contrary to their goals.

Should I say that you LOVE or do you HATE neocon smear artists, RickyJ? Do you LIKE them, or do you DISLIKE them?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   1:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: RickyJ (#97)

Forgot to ping you. Have you seen this stuff?


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-24   1:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: RickyJ (#106)

Now you are slandering Southerners? Dude, take some medicine and step away from the computer.

Where did the KKK originate Ricky? Was it Boston? Ontario?

No, you know it wasn't. Do you know who founded it Ricky? Let me tell you who it was. It was Albert Pike, Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite of Masonry. Yes, he worshipped Lucifer.

Did you know that, Ricky?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   1:17:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: wudidiz (#108)

Forgot to ping you. Have you seen this stuff?

Ricky thinks all Jews are out to get him. He's already posted that he thinks 99% of them are Zionists.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   1:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: FormerLurker (#110)

Well, there's enough there to read that says that's not true.


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-24   1:27:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: RickyJ (#105)

"Not liking what people believe and do is not the same thing as hating them."

Fuck you.

Nobody can read your crap and not see you go off on tangents of hatred of people.

This quote from you is obviously full of crap. You think we cannot figure out what you say and how you do so is marinated in the oil of hatred of folks.

We are smarter then that Ricky, so cut the shit. Stop sniveling out parsed out rhetorical lies like you were some kind of Bill Clinton, you ain't fooling a soul.

You are way more transparent then you know.

Dick head.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-24   8:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: FormerLurker (#101)

You call me a jew hater because I wiped the floor with your zionist-apologist ass.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-24   9:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: FormerLurker (#94)

Jesus was a Jew

Mickey was a mouse. Zippy was a pinhead. Fritz the Cat was a sex maniac.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-24   10:06:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: FormerLurker (#96) (Edited)

it is of course a religion

All organized religion is a fraud magnet growing stronger over time. All religion is a flawed invention of flawed imagination, regardless of how useful it is to the believer.

What's that make me? Would you say that makes me a jew-hater? If so, then so be it.

The only problem with your opinion is most people accept the concept of "secular jews" and I do not know the philosophies of secular jews from a hole in the ground. I have no sense of there being any uniting principles within that scope, thus no reason to have an opinion. I also am suspicious of all strangers.

By the way, you're a lunatic.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-24   10:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Original_Intent (#6)

I suspect Mosad had a hand in helping organize the hijackers.

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.

Critter  posted on  2008-06-24   11:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: nobody (#113)

You call me a jew hater because I wiped the floor with your zionist-apologist ass.

Uh huh. Close your eyes, click your heels, and tell that to yourself three times, maybe it'll come true in your mind at least.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   13:51:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: FormerLurker (#117)

Send this thread to your mom, she'll be so proud of her little boy.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-24   14:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: FormerLurker (#110)

99%?

Must be taken from the last annual report of the ADL. I am tired of correcting that boy and those clowns. Maybe they're right and the surveys are wrong.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-24   15:32:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: nobody, FormerLurker, Wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, christine, Critter, all (#114)

Jesus was a Jew

Mickey was a mouse. Zippy was a pinhead. Fritz the Cat was a sex maniac.

And "nobody" is a Hasbara .

(Hasbara) Israel Reaction Center

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-06-24   23:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: FormerLurker, nobody (#117)

You call me a jew hater because I wiped the floor with your zionist-apologist ass.

Uh huh. Close your eyes, click your heels, and tell that to yourself three times, maybe it'll come true in your mind at least.

Mind?

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-06-25   0:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: christine (#73) (Edited)

Judaism believes in One G-d who revealed the Torah.

If that were the case then they would be Christians today, not still followers of a God they can't even spell his name for fear. No, today's Judaism is a Satanic cult, whether they go by the Talmud or they claim only the Torah. They might not all support a state of Israel at this time, but they do indeed all support a state of Israel at some time.

The state they are looking for is a Earthly kingdom, not the Heavenly Kingdom Jesus told them about. They have rejected Jesus as the Son of God, they are waiting on the Anti-Christ now, thinking he will be their savior. Pretending that all that go by the term "Jew" today are not destined for hell is not doing them any favors.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-25   2:54:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Original_Intent, FormerLurker, nobody, Turtle (#120)

Hasbara .

(Hasbara) Israel Reaction Center

Thank you for the links. Very interesting, I hadn't seen any of that before.

Forgive me, but to the best of my memory, I don't recall 'nobody' seeming like that, though.

Then I just looked over all his/her posts to me and I don't see anything like disinfo style there.

Sorry, I just don't see it. In fact, nobody has thinking similar to both of you as best as I can tell.

Please feel free to correct me if I'm missing something here. Now Turtle. That guy's problematic. hahaha


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-25   3:44:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: RickyJ (#122) (Edited)

If that were the case then they would be Christians today, not still followers of a God they can't even spell his name for fear. No, today's Judaism is a Satanic cult, whether they go by the Talmud or they claim only the Torah. They might not all support a state of Israel at this time, but they do indeed all support a state of Israel at some time.

The state they are looking for is a Earthly kingdom, not the Heavenly Kingdom Jesus told them about. They have rejected Jesus as the Son of God, they are waiting on the Anti-Christ now, thinking he will be their savior. Pretending that all that go by the term "Jew" today are not destined for hell is not doing them any favors.

I disagree. I believe it's dangerous if not counterproductive to over-generalize like that.

Much of the same can be said about many of the members of all religions.

What did you think of those links at #97?


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-25   3:54:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: wudidiz (#123)

The reliance on "argumentum ad hominem" is one and the other being the accusation of everybody being a Zionist.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-06-25   11:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: wudidiz (#123)

nobody has thinking similar to both of you

I don't generate posts that suggest zionists are not at the "top" of the 9/11 conspiracy.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-25   11:18:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: RickyJ (#122)

They have rejected Jesus as the Son of God

And they feel that you have rejected the one true God, and have chosen to worship an idol. You are basically a heathen idol worshipper in their eyes.

You do remember that Jesus' father is God, don't you? If you choose to believe that a man who walked the Earth is God himself, that is your choice. But don't condemn those who choose to believe in God Himself.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-25   11:23:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Original_Intent (#121)

Mind?

True, he'd need one first... LOL


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-25   11:24:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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