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Title: Critics Demand Resignation of U.N. Official Who Wants Probe of 9/11 'Inside Job' Theories
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,369122,00.html
Published: Jun 19, 2008
Author: Joseph Abrams
Post Date: 2008-06-19 16:01:21 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 2026
Comments: 150

Critics are calling for the resignation of a U.N. official who publicly supports investigating theories that the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were an "inside job."

Richard Falk, the special rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories, investigates alleged Israeli violations of human rights law for the U.N.'s Human Rights Council.

But the former Princeton professor would also like to investigate whether "some sort of controlled explosion from within" destroyed the Twin Towers, he told FOXNews.com.

"I do think there are questions that haven't been answered, questions about the way the buildings collapsed and the failure to heed a variety of signals that there was danger coming," Falk said.

"I think [his beliefs are] fruitcake city, but among many delegations to the U.N. it's probably the conventional wisdom," said John Bolton, a former U.S. ambassador to the U.N. known for his straight talk on U.N. hypocrisy.

But Hillel Neuer, executive director of U.N. Watch, a non-governmental organization that monitors the U.N., wants Falk removed from his job.

"He should resign," said Neuer, who raised concerns about Falk's ability to be an objective observer. Neuer has also criticized Falk for being biased against Israel.

"If he were a principled person he would recognize the fact that he has very extreme views," Neuer said.

In 2004, Falk wrote the forward to "The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11," a book written by David Ray Griffin, a Sept. 11 conspiracy theorist.

Griffin's book argues that the Twin Towers may have been brought down by a "controlled demolition" — not by two airliners hijacked by Al Qaeda operatives — and that the Pentagon may not have been hit by a plane at all.

Griffin "doesn't take a so-called conspiracy view and he raises questions that haven't been answered," Falk told FOXNews.com. "I think [the book] deserved to be published and I have no regrets about that."

Falk said that while he supports alternative theories behind the World Trade Center attack, he doesn't claim the U.S. government was responsible.

"I'm an agnostic on the issue," he said.

But Bolton is hardly agnostic on the issue of Falk's views.

"It's just an example of the inmates running the asylum," Bolton said. "It's a particularly graphic example for Americans, but this is not an aberration — this is, unfortunately, typical of much of what goes on" at the U.N.

A spokesman for the office of Louise Arbour, the U.N. high commissioner for human rights, declined to comment on Falk.

"As a matter of practice, we do not offer commentaries on individual special rapporteurs," wrote spokesman Rupert Colville in an e-mail to FOXNews.com. "There are some 27 of them in all, and if we started making character judgments on one or two of them, it would never stop. They are mandated to do their work by the Human Rights Council."

But Falk's support for Sept. 11 conspiracy theories isn't the only thing that has critics up in arms.

In an online article for the Transnational Foundation for Peace and Future Research last year, Falk — prior to his appointment as an unbiased human rights investigator — compared Israeli actions in Gaza to the Nazi treatment of Jews. This may have led to his appointment as the rapporteur for the Palestinian territories, Bolton said.

"He was picked for a reason, and the reason is not to have an objective assessment — the objective is to find more ammunition to go after Israel," Bolton said.

Neuer said Falk is not the only special rapporteur to bring a bias to the job. "You have people who are, I would say, a wolf in sheep's clothing who are implementing the agenda of dictatorships," he said.

"It's tragic because there are human rights victims around the world who could greatly benefit from a champion, including in the Middle East. ...

"Many of the rapporteurs do good work, do important work, report on how countries are respecting or not respecting laws around the world," Neuer said.

Falk maintained he was an appropriate choice for the job. "I think I'm an informed observer and I'm unbiased in the sense that I have always done the best to tell the truth as I see it," he said.

Despite his calls for Falk's resignation, Neuer did not expect him to be censured or removed.

"I don't think there's going to be any move in the council to do anything about his appointment," he said.

Falk, asked whether he'd be surprised if further investigations revealed the U.S. government's role in Sept. 11, told FOXNews.com, "Yes, I'd be surprised — not shocked but surprised."

He then reconsidered, and said: "No, I'd be shocked."


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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0) (Edited)

More proof that zionists are hideously, murderously, absolutely insane, especially when it comes to covering up their false flags.

Zionists even made the son of the zionist who covered up the botched USS Liberty false flag attack a candidate for president after he did the forward for the Popular Mechanics hatchet job attack on 9/11 truth.

Zionists are truly second to none when it comes to despising the truth.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-19   16:35:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

www .prisonplanet.com/arti...8/062008_smear_attack.htm

"The BBC is set to launch another savage smear attack on the 9/11 truth movement with two documentaries about the September 11 attacks and the 7/7 bombings that attempt to debunk evidence of government complicity and smear doubters of the official story as holocaust deniers, Neo-Nazis, and crop circle fanatics. ....."

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The BBC again takes advantage of the poorly written (and re-written, and re-written ...) "Loose Change" to the detriment of the truth.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   1:24:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull, *9-11* (#0)

Joseph Abrams

This article is just more evidence that the Jews did 9/11.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-23   1:29:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

The perps are getting nervous. They crank up the attack machine whenever a public figure talks about the obvious: 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB.

As well we have all the usual suspects: The Israel Firsters who are absolutely panicked that Israel will be tied to the falling apart cover-up of the 911 False Flag Terrist' attack.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-06-23   1:36:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

"It's just an example of the inmates running the asylum," Bolton said.

He's really the best zionist crackpot reality suckpoop out in the field. The walrus mustache probably helps there.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   1:40:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: RickyJ, TwentyTwelve (#3)

This article is just more evidence that the Jews did 9/11.

No. Certainly it would seem that a circumstantial case can be made for Israeli, not the generic "Jews", participation in the 911 PsyOp False Flag Terra' event but they did not have the reach or control to get inside the Oval Orofice, or into Cheney's sick and twisted mind. No, the Israelis knew about it and it is likely that Israeli/American Zionists were involved but they did not pull this op off - there were merely participants under someone else's control.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-06-23   1:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#6) (Edited)

it is likely that Israeli/American Zionists were involved but they did not pull this op off - there were merely participants under someone else's control.

Pull it, he said.

This "someone else" (as if it's one person), he wouldn't by any chance be a zionist, would he?

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   1:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: RickyJ (#3)

You're a Jew rick.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-06-23   8:39:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Old Friend, RickyJ, christine, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, Jethro Tull, Lodwick, angle, HOUNDDAWG, all (#8)

You're a Jew rick.

Exactly. It has become very obvious over the years that biggest and loudest "anti-semites" are usually Zionists (AIPAC, JINSA, Mossad, Hasbara, and other slime) who use "over the top" anti-Jewish comments to discredit a line of inquiry with outrageous and hate filled sniping. The reality is that the Zionists WANT TO CREATE anti-semitism to drive a wedge between well-meaning Jews and anyone who is critical of Zionist criminality and the genocidal racist policies and State Sanctioned murder of the Zionist clique running Israel Sodom and Gomorrah.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-06-23   12:47:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: nobody, Old Friend, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, christine, angle, Lodwick, Kamala, Buckeye, all (#7)

Thank you. Each post you make adds to the pattern and allows me to analyse who you work for.

So, narrowing it down it is likely AIPAC, JINSA, Some Military or Intel Agency, or you are simply another hate filled Hasbara sowing disinformation and attempting to create flame wars and other disruptions.

In any event you clearly identify yourself for what you are.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-06-23   12:53:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent (#10)

it is likely that Israeli/American Zionists were involved but they did not pull this op off - there were merely participants under someone else's control.

Gee, it's like you're trying to give people the impression that zionists weren't running the 9/11 show. What a surprise.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   16:04:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: nobody (#11)

Gee, it's like you're trying to give people the impression that zionists weren't running the 9/11 show. What a surprise

It was more than likely the work of not JUST Zionists, but also of multi- national corporations and political bodies who are not only staging false flag events for profit and gain, but to lead us onto a path for a true police state, which WILL lead us to a New World Order..

So it goes BEYOND simple Zionsim, where in fact, if those behind the scenes get their wish and manage to provoke a war with Iran, it will be Israel's downfall as it is caught in a cloud of lethal radioactive fallout from tactical and/or strategic thermonuclear weapons launched by the likes of Pakistan, Russia, and/or China, or even the US if Iran were to sink US carrier fleets within its reach.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   16:12:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: FormerLurker (#12)

It was more than likely the work of not JUST Zionists

Well sure, the Chinese probably said "great, have a good time fucking yourselves on 9/11."

Without the zionists, it's NOTHING. It's deader in the water than the USS Liberty. It's "pull it" dead. Financial geniuses, how do we get rid of all this asbestos? Lightning?

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   16:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: nobody (#13)

When Israel is glowing green for several million years after the NWO manages to start a nuclear war in the Middle East, tell me how the Zionists have benefitted from it.

I think simple greed and ignorance has motivated MANY true Zionists to go along with the 9/11 attacks and perhaps the Mossad was operationally involved, but I don't see them as the true puppeteers in all of this. There are others who don't give a damn about Zionism or Israel, and they are the ones who know the real agenda and are the REAL threats to the world as we know it.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   16:28:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: FormerLurker (#14)

When Israel is glowing green for several million years after the NWO manages to start a nuclear war in the Middle East

Oh, you're a prophet of Biblical proportions, are you?

I thought zionists were more worried about Iran hitting them first. You telling me I've got it all wrong?

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   16:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: nobody (#13)

Well sure, the Chinese probably said "great, have a good time fucking yourselves on 9/11."

I do see them as a player in this, for the simple fact they appear to be following the teachings of Sun Tzu to the letter.

Add to that notion the fact that multi-national corporations have set up shop throughout that country and have closed their US facilities.

I think people such as Kissinger might be more aware of what the real deal is than many, and is obviously part of the scheme, but I also think that even HE takes orders from those he might not even know.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   16:33:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: nobody (#15)

Oh, you're a prophet of Biblical proportions, are you?

You don't need to be a prophet to envision what the US would do if Iran were to sink one or more US aircraft carriers in retaliation for a US or Israeli attack.

And they very much CAN sink US aircraft carriers with their Russian/Chinese supplied Sunburn and Yakhont anti-ship missles.

I thought zionists were more worried about Iran hitting them first. You telling me I've got it all wrong?

Huh?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   16:36:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: FormerLurker (#14)

I think simple greed and ignorance has motivated MANY true Zionists to go along with the 9/11 attacks and perhaps the Mossad was operationally involved, but I don't see them as the true puppeteers in all of this.

Hilarious. Lobotomy outpatient, definitely. How you can leave it hanging like that? Amazingly cartoonish.

Was it the Queen of England's evil non-zionist suckup twin, on the bat-phone to the Black Pope, via the jesuits, to the Rockefellers' evil, non-zionist-suckup twins?

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   16:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Original_Intent (#9)

well-meaning Jews

Very funny. Kind of like a well meaning mafia member.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-23   16:45:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: FormerLurker (#17)

I'm assuming zionists aren't going to be convinced they have their priorities as upside down as you claim they are. I'm attributing free will to what they do.

You're claiming that something isn't in zionist interest, and I'm claiming zionists find your concerns invalid, regardless of my opinion on the merit (or lack thereof) of your views. It's only complicated if you're slow.

I'd have an easier time believing all the muzzie fundie nuts and Ahmadinnerjob are on the payroll.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   16:50:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: FormerLurker (#17)

So you're saying Israelis and zionists are being duped by the non-zionist elite into thinking that Iran must be attacked, when actually zionists and Israelis should be diametrically opposed to attacking Iran because it would be suicidal to do so.

It's the "zionists are too stupid to know any better so you can't blame them" excuse, right?

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   17:04:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: nobody (#21)

So you're saying Israelis and zionists are being duped by the non-zionist elite into thinking that Iran must be attacked, when actually zionists and Israelis should be diametrically opposed to attacking Iran because it would be suicidal to do so.

Exactly. Fear and propaganda have been used to rile them up and make them think that they HAVE to deal with Iran now or face anhilation at some later date.

That the outcome will be the exact thing that they wish to avoid hasn't dawned on the majority I suppose, just as how war with Iran will be OUR downfall , yet that hasn't dawned on the drooling tards who are begging Bush, McCain, and/or Obama to bomb that country back to the stone age.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   17:13:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: nobody (#18)

Was it the Queen of England's evil non-zionist suckup twin, on the bat-phone to the Black Pope, via the jesuits, to the Rockefellers' evil, non-zionist-suckup twins?

To you the average Jew is your arch enemy and Satan incarnate, correct?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   17:14:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: FormerLurker (#16)

Kissinger might be more aware of what the real deal is than many, and is obviously part of the scheme, but I also think that even HE takes orders from those he might not even know

Right, and CFR/Bilderberg/Trilateral is a hotbed of dead nazis like Prescott Bush.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   17:19:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: FormerLurker (#23)

To you the average Jew is your arch enemy and Satan incarnate, correct?

You out of zionist coverup bullshit already?

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   17:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: nobody (#25)

You out of zionist coverup bullshit already?

Why don't you lay off the crack and go find some real people to play with...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   17:29:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: FormerLurker (#22)

Fear and propaganda have been used to rile them up and make them think that they HAVE to deal with Iran now or face anhilation at some later date.

Gosh, who knew it was so simple to f*ck with the minds of zionists. Maybe I can get one to white-wash my fence.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   17:29:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: FormerLurker (#22) (Edited)

Fear and propaganda have been used to rile them up and make them think that they HAVE to deal with Iran now or face anhilation at some later date.

Thus zionists were not the heart and soul of 9/11, they were just innocent zombies of the nazi-like oil-hungry pro-life Reagan-Texas-sized-apocalyptic-gas-guzzler international elite.

Again, it's apparently easier to put Ahmadinnerjob on the payroll and have him mess with the stock market on cue.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   17:34:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: FormerLurker (#26)

Fear and propaganda have been used to rile them up and make them think that they HAVE to deal with Iran now or face anhilation at some later date.

Ohhh. So, should I stop saying that 9/11 was a zionist inside job then?

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   17:40:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: FormerLurker (#26)

Why don't you lay off the crack

You and your porcine flow....

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   17:42:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: FormerLurker (#23)

To you the average Jew is your arch enemy and Satan incarnate, correct?

You're more of a complete jackass, really.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   17:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: nobody (#31)

Let's see what makes nobody tick;

A) Anyone who comments on 9/11 is a zionist.

B) Anyone who came from LP is a zionist.

C) Anyone who gives nobody a hard time is a zionist.

D) Zionists are out to get nobody, and hide under his bed at night.

Yep, that pretty much defines what nobody is all about.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   19:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: nobody (#31)

You're more of a complete jackass, really.

And you're a raving nutjob who probably has NO friends in real life and spends his waking hours on a forum where he thinks everyone is a zionist who's out to get him.

If you weren't such a raging asshole you might possibly have a friend or two.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   19:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: FormerLurker (#33)

you're a raving nutjob

That's nice, and a hot one, zionist loser lousy-cover cretin.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   19:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: FormerLurker (#33)

I'm not here to make friends, especially not with zionist apologist artificial jew-baiting complete farging morons like you. I'm here to discuss facts and occasionally tell jokes, especially when morons like you annoy me.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   19:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: nobody (#35)

And I think you're either a total complete idiot, nutjob, and asshole, or are just getting paid to pretend you are.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   19:22:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: FormerLurker (#33)

you're a raving nutjob who probably has NO friends in real life

... and zionists have tons of friends. Woe is lonely old me.

ROFL. You missed the toilet again.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   19:23:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: FormerLurker (#36)

Imagine my surprise at once again seeing no cogent response to either my substantive criticisms of Nimmo or of your ridiculous "the zionism stops up here at the neck" spinal analysis of the 9/11 job. Kudos on suggesting mossad was involved anyway, regardless.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   19:30:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: nobody (#37)

Yeah, I'm a "zionist" who posts info contradicting the official 9/11 legend, including what led up to the incident in terms of Unocal wanting to build the Trans-Afghan pipeline, have battled REAL zionazis on LP that jumped for joy when Israel was killing kids in Lebanon (getting me banned there), and am against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, as support Ron Paul for President.

Yeah sure, I'm a real zionist. You make this site look like a jew-hating site and cause a casual reader to think this place is nothing more than a whackjob site full of jew-haters.

You AID the zionists in bringing ridicule to this forum and its sincere posters, and are more than likely WORKING for the very people you claim to hate so much.

Nice try nobody, but your shit don't stick.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   19:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: nobody (#38)

Imagine my surprise at once again seeing no cogent response to either my substantive criticisms of Nimmo

You called the guy an idiot. Is that supposed to be a "substantive criticism"?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   19:32:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: FormerLurker (#39) (Edited)

You make this site look like a jew-hating site and cause a casual reader to think this place is nothing more than a whackjob site full of jew-haters.

.......

Nice try nobody, but your shit don't stick.

You're just another embarrassed undercover zionist a-hole.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   19:35:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: FormerLurker (#40)

You called the guy an idiot. Is that supposed to be a "substantive criticism"?

You quoted the nonsubstantive part. Is that supposed to be a "substantive criticism"? Are you done being a prize jackass yet?

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   19:37:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: FormerLurker (#40) (Edited)

Hey piglet. On this thread, I see only you trying to confuse "jews" with "zionists." That's when you went all cultnutty and invited me to sip some of your koolaide, remember, Jimmy?

Besides that, you had some halfway decent reasons for why so many jews probably resent zionists, I suppose.

The problem is those reasons don't let zionists off the hook for running the 9/11 show and your "zionists are too stupid to be responsible for doing 9/11 because they were duped into doing it" excuse is worthless.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   19:42:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: nobody (#43)

Why don't you go back to stroking off in front of the mirror nobody, and stop being such a fucktard to those who try to speak to you with some degree of civility.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   19:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Original_Intent, nobody (#9)

It has become very obvious over the years that biggest and loudest "anti-semites" are usually Zionists (AIPAC, JINSA, Mossad, Hasbara, and other slime) who use "over the top" anti-Jewish comments to discredit a line of inquiry with outrageous and hate filled sniping.

I think you've nailed it OI. And I think that very much applies to our little friend here, nobody...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   19:49:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: FormerLurker (#44) (Edited)

You missed the toilet again, a-hole.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   19:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: FormerLurker (#45) (Edited)

You two perpetually-bullshitting undercover zionist fu**tards have fun, now, y'hear?

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   19:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: nobody (#46)

So do you work for AIPAC, or are you a little Mossad chick who posed for "Chicks of the IDF"?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   19:56:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: FormerLurker (#39)

You make this site look like a jew-hating site and cause a casual reader to think this place is nothing more than a whackjob site full of jew-haters.

You AID the zionists in bringing ridicule to this forum and its sincere posters

Spoken like a true undercover zionist piece of crap.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   20:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: nobody (#49)

So which is it nobody, are you working for the Mossad/AIPAC/ADL, or are you just a complete idiot that loves to cause trouble on forums?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   20:12:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: FormerLurker (#48)

You make this site look like a jew-hating site and cause a casual reader to think this place is nothing more than a whackjob site full of jew-haters.

Can you provide a few quotes, to show that?

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   20:12:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: nobody (#51)

Can you provide a few quotes, to show that?

I don't need to. Pretty much anything you post reflects what I claim.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   20:13:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: FormerLurker (#52)

I don't need to.

Your pick of my two worst on this thread then, by number.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   20:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: nobody (#53)

I'll let the readers browse through the thread and decide which ones they are..


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   20:22:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: FormerLurker (#48)

Yeah, I'm a "zionist" who posts info contradicting the official 9/11 legend, including what led up to the incident in terms of Unocal wanting to build the Trans-Afghan pipeline, have battled REAL zionazis on LP that jumped for joy when Israel was killing kids in Lebanon (getting me banned there), and am against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, as support Ron Paul for President.

Yeah sure, I'm a real zionist. You make this site look like a jew-hating site and cause a casual reader to think this place is nothing more than a whackjob site full of jew-haters.

You AID the zionists in bringing ridicule to this forum and its sincere posters, and are more than likely WORKING for the very people you claim to hate so much.

Nice try nobody, but your shit don't stick.

.......

Why don't you go back to stroking off in front of the mirror nobody, and stop being such a fucktard to those who try to speak to you with some degree of civility.

.......

So do you work for AIPAC, or are you a little Mossad chick who posed for "Chicks of the IDF"?

............

To you the average Jew is your arch enemy and Satan incarnate, correct?

Lurker's greatest self-hating undercover zionist misses.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   20:24:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: nobody (#55) (Edited)

I can only see several possibilities here.

A) You are a drunken fool who really IS a nobody, and you enjoy pissing all over people on forums such as this for simple enjoyment. Perhaps a former Clowne Posse member, perhaps just a lone dork.

B) You have lost your mind and attack those who have agreed with anything you've said in the past. You need professional help if either A) or B) are true.

C) You are a paid shill, working for the Mossad/AIPAC/ADL or possibly some alphabet soup agency whose mission is to disrupt any forum where people might be touching upon the truth, and who have had an increasing number of readers as of late..


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   20:40:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: FormerLurker (#32)

Let's see what makes nobody tick;

A) Anyone who comments on 9/11 is a zionist.

B) Anyone who came from LP is a zionist.

C) Anyone who gives nobody a hard time is a zionist.

D) Zionists are out to get nobody, and hide under his bed at night.

Yep, that pretty much defines what nobody is all about.

But it really does sound like you are defending Zionists there and painting nobody with a rather large leap in logic lacking factual basis, doesn't it?

Through numerous threads on many forums, I have decided whomever throws out the "Jew Hater" and/or "anti-semite" characterization/labels loses all credibility.

I attempt to no longer engage in unprovable agent provocateur conundrums.

Therefore, I shall now move on to the issue of this thread:

Anyone seeking to discredit/destroy/silence a critic of Amerisreal's verison of 09/11, is the enemy of America and Americans. But for Isreal, the World Trade Centers would still be standing.

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.

wbales  posted on  2008-06-23   21:00:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: wbales (#57)

But it really does sound like you are defending Zionists there and painting nobody with a rather large leap in logic lacking factual basis, doesn't it?

Huh? Have you read more than just that one post here?

Where the hell am I defending zionists? If anything, your pal nobody works for the Mossad.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   21:12:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: FormerLurker (#58)

Where the hell am I defending zionists?

You essentially said zionists were foolish puppets of non-zionists and thus not in control of what happened on 9/11.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   21:15:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: wbales, nobody (#57)

Anyone seeking to discredit/destroy/silence a critic of Amerisreal's verison of 09/11, is the enemy of America and Americans.

So then you must view nobody as an of enemy of America and Americans, right?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   21:16:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: FormerLurker (#60)

He said "critic" not "apologist."

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   21:17:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: nobody (#59)

You essentially said zionists were foolish puppets of non-zionists and thus not in control of what happened on 9/11.

I didn't say that. I said that there were not ONLY zionists behind the attacks.

There is evil beyond simple thirst for land and money. You appear to be blinded by it, if you are at all sincere with anything you write, or are just playing along.

I'd take a wild guess and say that you know exactly what you are doing, and that is discrediting anyone or anything that might uncover the truth behind 9/11 and other matters.

If you are an American, you are a traitor, no better than those that were actually complicit with the attacks.

I didn't start shit with you, I simply pointed out that Original_Intent has certainly NOT been a friend of the zionists, but you thought it fun to start a pissing contest with me. You get too much enjoyment out of this to be sincere, you appear to be a Clowne who's lost his Posse.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   21:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: FormerLurker (#62)

there were not ONLY zionists behind the attacks

.... except at the top, where there were none, because they're crazy with the altitude and want to turn Israel into a glowing lake.... virtually according to you, anyway. So like who else was involved below the top and who was at the top? Top secret?

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   21:29:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: nobody (#59)

You essentially said zionists were foolish puppets of non-zionists and thus not in control of what happened on 9/11.

Actually, I think puppet is too strong of a word. I think they were led to believe that it would work to their advantage and offered whatever assistance they could. There is a reason why they were allowed to do so however, and goes beyond the existance of the state of Israel or the concept of Zion.

It has more to do with the Illuminati than anything, but of course you'll jump all over that and call me a zionist apologist or something to that effect.

If you really believe what you write, I feel sorry for you, as you'll NEVER learn or see anything past your hate and contempt. If you know what you are saying is totally opposite of the truth, then I despise you, but know that Karma WILL find its way into your life.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   21:32:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: FormerLurker (#64)

Karma WILL find its way into your life.

You're a zionist apologist in denial here, that much is awfully clear. Try the "it's war for oil" bit, you know you want to.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   21:42:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: nobody (#65)

I'm done with you. Go kick your dog if it'll make you feel better, just consider the fact he might be sick of it and decide to take your leg off this time.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   21:44:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: nobody (#65) (Edited)

And BTW, keep up the good work for AIPAC, as you really DO make us all look like a bunch of whackjobs, and I'm sure that IS your true intent here.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   21:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: nobody (#65)

Try the "it's war for oil" bit, you know you want to.

I'll say this much. He who controls the planet's energy supply controls the planet. So it's not specifically about oil, it's about total absolute power over the Earth and its inhabitants.

Go on thinking it's all the work of the dastardly zionist boogeyman, that is of course the goal of those who wish for the truth to remain concealed.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   21:53:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: FormerLurker (#22)

Exactly. Fear and propaganda have been used to rile them up and make them think that they HAVE to deal with Iran now or face anhilation at some later date.

Yeah, them stupid Zionists can be controlled so easily. LOL! Just rile those suckers up and they will do exactly what you want them to do. Those are mighty powerful drugs you are on.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-23   21:59:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: FormerLurker (#68)

Tell me zionists don't control the republican and democrat parties, that it's really run by big oil. You know, the big oil that fools zionists into doing big oil's bidding by rigging wars. Poor zionists. Seem to be really into it, though. Hey, I know, it's not big oil, it's radical muslims, big oil controls radical muslims and bush the secret nazi spy family guy runs the big machine for the Nazifellers! Now it's okay!

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   22:04:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: FormerLurker (#39)

You make this site look like a jew-hating site and cause a casual reader to think this place is nothing more than a whackjob site full of jew-haters.

Holy crap! You are freaking "Jew" lover. Well I guess that explains your "ignorance" of CO2's insignificant role in the 18 year warm up which ended in 1998!

"Jews" and Zionists are one and the same. Don't think so, then you don't know what a "Jew" is then.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-23   22:09:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: RickyJ (#71) (Edited)

"Jews" and Zionists are one and the same.

I wouldn't use all those extra letters if that was the case. Abe Foxman says the same thing you say about that. You both calling me stupid? Of course there's a difference. One is a definitely powerful nationalistic supremacist political movement, the other a person can be born as.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   22:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: RickyJ (#71)

"Jews" and Zionists are one and the same

That's not my understanding, Ricky.

www.nkusa.org/ AboutUs/Zionism/judaism_v_zionism.cfm

Judaism believes in One G-d who revealed the Torah. It affirms Divine Providence and, accordingly, views Jewish exile as a punishment for sin. Redemption may be achieved solely through prayer and penance. Judaism calls upon all Jews to obey the Torah in its entirety including the commandment to be patriotic citizens.

Zionism rejects the Creator, His Revelation and reward and punishment. Among its fruits are the persecution of the Palestinian people and the spiritual and physical endangering of the Jewish people. It encourages treasonous, dual loyalty among unsuspecting Jews throughout the world. At its root Zionism sees reality as barren and desacralized. It is the antithesis of Torah Judaism.

christine  posted on  2008-06-23   22:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: FormerLurker (#68)

Go on thinking it's all the work of the dastardly zionist boogeyman, that is of course the goal of those who wish for the truth to remain concealed.

AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/NAACP/JINSA/ACLU/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA & HOLLYWOOD.

Boogeyman?!? Wow.

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.

wbales  posted on  2008-06-23   22:23:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: FormerLurker (#68) (Edited)

I know what the deal is here ... liking zionism is a lot like liking ice cream. I'm blaming a bunch of people for what merely amounts to the same thing as liking ice cream! And it's probably a lot like super vanilla-cream ice cream! Dang, I'm going to have to re-figure all this....

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   22:30:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: christine (#73)

Being anti-zionist and, thus, an ally of mine, the NK Jews do deserve a disclaimer. And although pro-Israel, the JPFO earn an exception from me as well. It remains, however, that the VAST majority of Jews are pro- Israel/Zionist and proponents of the alphabet soup I referenced above which is instrumental in destroying American society and culture and directing American foreign policy for the sole benefit of Israel.

This thread is such so deja vu (if you know what I mean).

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.

wbales  posted on  2008-06-23   22:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: wbales (#57)

Through numerous threads on many forums, I have decided whomever throws out the "Jew Hater" and/or "anti-semite" characterization/labels loses all credibility.

When they have to resort to the "Jew hater" slogan they are losing the argument badly.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-23   22:37:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: RickyJ (#77) (Edited)

When they have to resort to the "Jew hater" slogan they are losing the argument badly.

That has been my experience/observation.

Long ago on LP, I posted ten reasons why Israel was a strategic threat to America. It got me called a Jew-Hater. Oh well.

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.

wbales  posted on  2008-06-23   22:40:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: nobody, RickyJ (#70)

Tell me zionists don't control the republican and democrat parties, that it's really run by big oil.

Was LBJ a zionist, or does it go further than that? Do Skull and Bones members worship Israel, or some other entity?

Do Bohemian Grove participants read the Torah, or do they indulge in rituals of a different type?

One might ask, what about apparent blatent acts of the Mossad, such as the dancing Israelis on 9/11, are they truly as they seem, or are they simply diversions designed to lead the gullible on paths meant to confuse and obfuscuate? Do you REALLY think the Mossad would be so careless as to send its agents out in plain view where they'd be dancing like idiots at the sight of the WTC towers collapsing?

Do you think the Shah of Iran was installed into place because of zionists? Do you think the Bush family smooches with the Saudi Royal family because they are zionists?

Wake up and smell the f'ing coffee, if you truly believe the stuff you write.

Certainly there are zionists who are part of the problem, or perhaps they portray themselves as such simply for the shock value.

Do you think the images of US troops torturing naked muslims is something that would benefit zionists? If anything, it'd cause even more hatred of the US and Israel in the Middle East.

Who created the State of Israel? Who created the UN? Who profitted from the opium trade back when the East India Trading Company sailed the globe with it's cargo of raw opium?

The name of the game is control. Those that become dependent on a substance for their very survival are at the mercy of those who control that substance, whether it be opium or oil. Oil is in fact the world's opium as we have been forced to become dependent on it over the last century.

It doesn't just run our cars, it is used to create textiles, plastics, tires, and medicines. Whoever has total control of the oil supply, controls the modern world.

That is why there are those who don't wish to see viable alternatives see the light of day, and do everything they can to discredit those alternatives.

It's not a group of zionsists that have done all that, it is those that are far more evil than anything you might imagine.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   23:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: RickyJ (#77)

When they have to resort to the "Jew hater" slogan they are losing the argument badly.

Who used that phrase on this thread other than you?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   23:31:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: wbales (#78)

Long ago on LP, I posted ten reasons why Israel was a strategic threat to America. It got me called a Jew-Hater. Oh well.

I've posted how Israel was possibly behind the bombing of the US Marines in Lebanon. I've posted about the USS Liberty. I've posted MANY things that some on LP might have used to portray me as a "Jew Hater", so don't be trying to tell me how I'm a zionist because I don't kiss the ass of either nobody or RickyJ.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   23:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: wbales (#74)

Boogeyman?!? Wow.

I said ALL of the work.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   23:36:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: RickyJ (#71)

"Jews" and Zionists are one and the same. Don't think so, then you don't know what a "Jew" is then.

Do you burn crosses in your yard on the 4th of July and lynch a few niggers just for grins and giggles?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   23:38:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: christine (#73)

Thanks for trying to set a few characters straight here christine.

I guess I really didn't know some people here as well as I thought I did. I can see how the shills on LP get the ammo to call all of us here anti-semites, as there ARE some here that truly have earned that name and make the rest of us look bad.

Perhaps that is the main idea, or perhaps they truly believe what they write. In the end, it achieves the same result...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   23:42:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: nobody (#70) (Edited)

And like I said earlier, how does it benefit Israel to incite a nuclear war in the Middle East? Are you too fucking stupid to understand that Israel is ALSO in the Middle East, and that it would be radioactive virtually forever?

People living under constant fear might not be rational enough to think that far, but those at the top of the food chain certainly know.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-23   23:50:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: FormerLurker (#85)

Are you too fucking stupid to understand that Israel is ALSO in the Middle East, and that it would be radioactive virtually forever?

It is a bit over my head. Maybe you should try to convince zionists.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-23   23:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: wbales (#76)

This thread is such so deja vu (if you know what I mean).

i know what you mean.

christine  posted on  2008-06-24   0:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: FormerLurker (#80) (Edited)

RickyJ: When they have to resort to the "Jew hater" slogan they are losing the argument badly.

--------------------

FormerLurker: Who used that phrase on this thread other than you?

FormerLurker: You make this site look like a jew-hating site and cause a casual reader to think this place is nothing more than a whackjob site full of jew-haters.

You DID! Damn, are you really that dense?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-24   0:12:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: christine (#73) (Edited)

ALL JEWS ARE ZIONISTS AT HEART

99% of "Jews" are obvious Zionists, the other 1% is not accepted by the 99% as true "Jews".

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-24   0:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: FormerLurker (#45)

It has become very obvious over the years that biggest and loudest "anti-semites" are usually Zionists (AIPAC, JINSA, Mossad, Hasbara, and other slime) who use "over the top" anti-Jewish comments to discredit a line of inquiry with outrageous and hate filled sniping.

I think you've nailed it OI. And I think that very much applies to our little friend here, nobody...

Thanks, and I think you nailed "nobody's" schtick.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-06-24   0:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Original_Intent (#90)

Thanks, and I think you nailed "nobody's" schtick.

Unfortunatly, he's not the ONLY one of his kind around here. I think it's quite apparent who I'm talking about, his name begins with Ricky and ends with J.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   0:33:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: FormerLurker (#83)

Do you burn crosses in your yard on the 4th of July and lynch a few niggers just for grins and giggles?

Equating Jews and African-Americans is standard PC BS.

"Jews" are NOT a race, got it?

"Jews" are a sick demented group that follows the Talmud. They worship Lucifer. Jesus told us about them in the New Testament. He didn't lie.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-24   0:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: RickyJ (#89)

99% of "Jews" are obvious Zionists, the other 1% is not accepted by the 99% as true "Jews".

That's like saying 99% of the Christians are members of the KKK, or that 99% of the Muslims are members of Al-Qaeda.

You love to hate people because of their religion, and probably view yourself "on the side of the lord" if you aren't an outright atheist.

Or at least that's the sort of character you're playing here on this forum.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   0:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: RickyJ (#92)

Jesus told us about them in the New Testament

You get the idea that Jesus is God due to the prophecies of the Jewish religion. In fact, Jesus was a Jew. Do you hate him too?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   0:38:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: RickyJ (#92)

They worship Lucifer.

No, the Masons are the ones who worship that entity.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   0:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: RickyJ (#92) (Edited)

Equating Jews and African-Americans is standard PC BS.

"Jews" are NOT a race, got it?

I didn't say that Judaism was a race, it is of course a religion, just as Catholicism is a religion. Catholicism is of course the religion that first put the texts together that are now called the New Testatment.

Regardless, it didn't stop rednecks down south from joining the KKK, who hate not just negroes, but JEWS and CATHOLICS. You'd think they worship satan or something, perhaps they do.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   0:44:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Original_Intent, nobody, FormerLurker, Old Friend, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, christine, angle, Lodwick, Kamala, Buckeye, all (#10)

I don't see any disinformationist/zionists on this thread. I see misunderstanding between what I know so far to be mostly like-minded posters here. As far as 9/11 and Zionists go anyway.

My two cents for what it's worth.

I feel humbled to post at 4um. Alot of great minds.

Some nice links here:

Jewish Opposition to Zionism

Difference between Judaism and Zionism

Judaism is not Zionism

Ten Questions To The Zionists Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT"L Dean of Nitra Yeshiva

THE LIFE OF AN AMERICAN JEW IN RACIST MARXIST ISRAEL (Part 1)

Excerpt: "In Germany, the average Jews were victims of the Zionist elite who worked hand in hand with the Nazis. Many of those same Zionist Jews who, in Germany, had worked with the Nazis, came to Israel and joined hands with the Zionist/Communist Jews from Poland and Russia. It is the two faces of communism and Nazi-style fascism that rule Israel. Democracy is merely an illusion." – Jack Bernstein

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration the Nazis ...

THE JEWS OF IRAQ - TESTIMONY OF A FORMER ZIONIST


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-24   0:46:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: FormerLurker (#91)

"Unfortunately, he's not the ONLY one of his kind around here. I think it's quite apparent who I'm talking about, his name begins with Ricky and ends with J."

Everything Ricky Retardo touches turns to ruin. The best thing one can have is him playing straight man psychopath completely against your advocacy. Having him argue with you on any issue gives it a boost up which has always made me wonder about this guy.

Nobody plays as dumb as him unless they are working an agenda. I've thought much the same about him for quite a while.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-24   0:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: All (#97)

I don't see any disinformationist/zionists on this thread.

Okay, maybe one.


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-24   0:51:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: All (#99)

#100


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-24   0:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: RickyJ (#88)

You DID! Damn, are you really that dense?

Idiot. I didn't call anyone a jew-hater, I said people such as you and nobody make the entire site appear to be jew-haters, more than likely by design.

Although I WILL call you that now, as you DO obviously hate them.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   0:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Ferret Mike (#98)

Nobody plays as dumb as him unless they are working an agenda. I've thought much the same about him for quite a while.

Thanks Mike, it's good to know that I'm not the only one here who has noticed it.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   0:54:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: wudidiz (#97)

It is the two faces of communism and Nazi-style fascism that rule Israel. Democracy is merely an illusion." – Jack Bernstein

Excellent info and links. Thanks.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   0:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: FormerLurker, Original_Intent (#103)

I got the links from one of O_I's posts.


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-24   1:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: FormerLurker (#93)

You love to hate people because of their religion...

When did I say I hate Jews, Muslims, or even PC liberals that believe in global warming?

Not liking what people believe and do is not the same thing as hating them. You are quick to accuse people of being haters. The ADL is also quick to accuse people of being haters.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-24   1:07:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: FormerLurker (#96)

Regardless, it didn't stop rednecks down south from joining the KKK, who hate not just negroes, but JEWS and CATHOLICS. You'd think they worship satan or something, perhaps they do.

Now you are slandering Southerners? Dude, take some medicine and step away from the computer.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-24   1:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: RickyJ (#105)

When did I say I hate Jews, Muslims, or even PC liberals that believe in global warming?

Not liking what people believe and do is not the same thing as hating them. You are quick to accuse people of being haters. The ADL is also quick to accuse people of being haters.

You lump ALL Jews into the web of those who you see as the cause of the world's misery. Is that simply not LIKING Jews because of their ancestry or religious beliefs, or is that downright HATE?

HATE is an irrational emotion that is bred from ignorance. Do you see yourself as an enlightened individual, where you view all Jews as the cause of your woes?

And BTW, neocon smear artists are quick to call an educated person a "PC liberal" if they happen to present information that is contrary to their goals.

Should I say that you LOVE or do you HATE neocon smear artists, RickyJ? Do you LIKE them, or do you DISLIKE them?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   1:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: RickyJ (#97)

Forgot to ping you. Have you seen this stuff?


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-24   1:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: RickyJ (#106)

Now you are slandering Southerners? Dude, take some medicine and step away from the computer.

Where did the KKK originate Ricky? Was it Boston? Ontario?

No, you know it wasn't. Do you know who founded it Ricky? Let me tell you who it was. It was Albert Pike, Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite of Masonry. Yes, he worshipped Lucifer.

Did you know that, Ricky?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   1:17:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: wudidiz (#108)

Forgot to ping you. Have you seen this stuff?

Ricky thinks all Jews are out to get him. He's already posted that he thinks 99% of them are Zionists.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   1:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: FormerLurker (#110)

Well, there's enough there to read that says that's not true.


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-24   1:27:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: RickyJ (#105)

"Not liking what people believe and do is not the same thing as hating them."

Fuck you.

Nobody can read your crap and not see you go off on tangents of hatred of people.

This quote from you is obviously full of crap. You think we cannot figure out what you say and how you do so is marinated in the oil of hatred of folks.

We are smarter then that Ricky, so cut the shit. Stop sniveling out parsed out rhetorical lies like you were some kind of Bill Clinton, you ain't fooling a soul.

You are way more transparent then you know.

Dick head.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-24   8:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: FormerLurker (#101)

You call me a jew hater because I wiped the floor with your zionist-apologist ass.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-24   9:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: FormerLurker (#94)

Jesus was a Jew

Mickey was a mouse. Zippy was a pinhead. Fritz the Cat was a sex maniac.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-24   10:06:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: FormerLurker (#96) (Edited)

it is of course a religion

All organized religion is a fraud magnet growing stronger over time. All religion is a flawed invention of flawed imagination, regardless of how useful it is to the believer.

What's that make me? Would you say that makes me a jew-hater? If so, then so be it.

The only problem with your opinion is most people accept the concept of "secular jews" and I do not know the philosophies of secular jews from a hole in the ground. I have no sense of there being any uniting principles within that scope, thus no reason to have an opinion. I also am suspicious of all strangers.

By the way, you're a lunatic.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-24   10:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Original_Intent (#6)

I suspect Mosad had a hand in helping organize the hijackers.

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.

Critter  posted on  2008-06-24   11:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: nobody (#113)

You call me a jew hater because I wiped the floor with your zionist-apologist ass.

Uh huh. Close your eyes, click your heels, and tell that to yourself three times, maybe it'll come true in your mind at least.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-24   13:51:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: FormerLurker (#117)

Send this thread to your mom, she'll be so proud of her little boy.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-24   14:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: FormerLurker (#110)

99%?

Must be taken from the last annual report of the ADL. I am tired of correcting that boy and those clowns. Maybe they're right and the surveys are wrong.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-24   15:32:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: nobody, FormerLurker, Wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, christine, Critter, all (#114)

Jesus was a Jew

Mickey was a mouse. Zippy was a pinhead. Fritz the Cat was a sex maniac.

And "nobody" is a Hasbara .

(Hasbara) Israel Reaction Center

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-06-24   23:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: FormerLurker, nobody (#117)

You call me a jew hater because I wiped the floor with your zionist-apologist ass.

Uh huh. Close your eyes, click your heels, and tell that to yourself three times, maybe it'll come true in your mind at least.

Mind?

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-06-25   0:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: christine (#73) (Edited)

Judaism believes in One G-d who revealed the Torah.

If that were the case then they would be Christians today, not still followers of a God they can't even spell his name for fear. No, today's Judaism is a Satanic cult, whether they go by the Talmud or they claim only the Torah. They might not all support a state of Israel at this time, but they do indeed all support a state of Israel at some time.

The state they are looking for is a Earthly kingdom, not the Heavenly Kingdom Jesus told them about. They have rejected Jesus as the Son of God, they are waiting on the Anti-Christ now, thinking he will be their savior. Pretending that all that go by the term "Jew" today are not destined for hell is not doing them any favors.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-25   2:54:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Original_Intent, FormerLurker, nobody, Turtle (#120)

Hasbara .

(Hasbara) Israel Reaction Center

Thank you for the links. Very interesting, I hadn't seen any of that before.

Forgive me, but to the best of my memory, I don't recall 'nobody' seeming like that, though.

Then I just looked over all his/her posts to me and I don't see anything like disinfo style there.

Sorry, I just don't see it. In fact, nobody has thinking similar to both of you as best as I can tell.

Please feel free to correct me if I'm missing something here. Now Turtle. That guy's problematic. hahaha


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-25   3:44:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: RickyJ (#122) (Edited)

If that were the case then they would be Christians today, not still followers of a God they can't even spell his name for fear. No, today's Judaism is a Satanic cult, whether they go by the Talmud or they claim only the Torah. They might not all support a state of Israel at this time, but they do indeed all support a state of Israel at some time.

The state they are looking for is a Earthly kingdom, not the Heavenly Kingdom Jesus told them about. They have rejected Jesus as the Son of God, they are waiting on the Anti-Christ now, thinking he will be their savior. Pretending that all that go by the term "Jew" today are not destined for hell is not doing them any favors.

I disagree. I believe it's dangerous if not counterproductive to over-generalize like that.

Much of the same can be said about many of the members of all religions.

What did you think of those links at #97?


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-25   3:54:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: wudidiz (#123)

The reliance on "argumentum ad hominem" is one and the other being the accusation of everybody being a Zionist.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-06-25   11:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: wudidiz (#123)

nobody has thinking similar to both of you

I don't generate posts that suggest zionists are not at the "top" of the 9/11 conspiracy.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-25   11:18:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: RickyJ (#122)

They have rejected Jesus as the Son of God

And they feel that you have rejected the one true God, and have chosen to worship an idol. You are basically a heathen idol worshipper in their eyes.

You do remember that Jesus' father is God, don't you? If you choose to believe that a man who walked the Earth is God himself, that is your choice. But don't condemn those who choose to believe in God Himself.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-25   11:23:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Original_Intent (#121)

Mind?

True, he'd need one first... LOL


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-25   11:24:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: FormerLurker (#81)

I've posted about the USS Liberty.

Were zionists also not at the "top" of the decision to try to sink the USS Liberty, just as you say they were not at the "top" on running 9/11?

nobody  posted on  2008-06-25   11:25:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: nobody (#129)

Who ordered the attack, and why did LBJ allow it? You like to simply things by falling to the usual, "they did it because they are zionists", but more often than not it's not quite that simple.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-25   11:29:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: FormerLurker (#130) (Edited)

So, zionists were at the "top" of both attacks, the USS Liberty and 9/11, yet they didn't do these things because they were zionists but for some other reason(s)?

The other reason(s), are they supposedly benelovent?

I just don't have much patience for this psychobabbly touchy-feely get-inside-their-minds stuff you appear to be selling.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-25   11:33:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: FormerLurker (#130)

Name one good zionist.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-25   11:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: nobody (#131)

Name the people that ordered 9/11, and name the people that ordered the attack on the USS Liberty.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-25   11:42:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: FormerLurker (#133)

All zionists, doing it for zion. Name one good vocal zionist.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-25   11:45:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: FormerLurker (#133)

Do you believe Israeli forces attempted to sink the USS Liberty so that it could be blamed on someone else?

nobody  posted on  2008-06-25   11:49:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: FormerLurker (#133)

Name the people that ordered 9/11, and name the people that ordered the attack on the USS Liberty.

The USS Liberty was attacked by Israelis on orders from Israelis. Need actual names to make a point?

nobody  posted on  2008-06-25   11:52:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: FormerLurker (#133)

the people that

the people who

nobody  posted on  2008-06-25   11:55:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: FormerLurker (#133)

Name the people that ordered 9/11, and name the people that ordered the attack on the USS Liberty.

I won't say these are not good questions. My opinion is there was no significant involvement of US officials, at least not very high up the command chain, in the planning itself of the attack on the USS Liberty. I do not believe it was initially an accident and any questions as to the loyalties of those Israelis who planned and carried it out are not worth considering. Involvement, or at least culpability, of zionist-oriented US officals in 9/11 goes practically to the top.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-25   12:12:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: FormerLurker (#133) (Edited)

I do not wish to give the impression that in these cases I believe the plannings are so much more significant an offense than are the coverups, by the way. Zionists on both ends, nonetheless.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-25   12:19:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Original_Intent (#125)

Yes, okay, thank you.


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-25   21:08:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: nobody (#126)

Yes, okay, thank you.


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-25   21:10:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: wudidiz, Original_Intent, nobody (#123)

Sorry, I just don't see it. In fact, nobody has thinking similar to both of you as best as I can tell.

nobody was calling Original_Intent and myself zionists, zionist apologists, and other such things. He also likes to call anyone reporting any recent developments on 9/11 similar names.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-25   21:16:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: FormerLurker (#142)

He also likes to call anyone reporting any recent developments on 9/11 similar names.

Figure out another way to bump this, I'm tired of your baseless baloney.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-25   22:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: FormerLurker, Original_Intent, nobody, all (#142)

Out for now.


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-25   22:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: FormerLurker (#142) (Edited)

nobody was calling Original_Intent and myself zionists, zionist apologists

Let's say I believe you've both shown yourselves to be easy prey to someone wishing to use you to assist the zionist agenda.

Part of that is your incorporation of religious beliefs into your posts. I don't want to see my miracles mixed in with my physics, you know what I mean?

There seems to be a pattern that spreads beyond that, however. Perhaps it is innate orneryness there, coupled with a resentment of secular views. I doubt it, though. No, you guys seem to be on a mission from the unsaid. Stupidity vs. cupidity, who knows why you're all so messed up here. Not me. You could be trolling for thread bumps in the spirit of keeping hope alive for all I know. It's not going to be enjoyable if you want to keep me involved.

You certainly don't make a good apologist where you want to suggest mossad was probably involved. But then, you have to have some cover to use to your advantage here, and you've apparently not sacrificed any supposed "string pullers," in any way, in the process of gaining it.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-25   23:09:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: nobody (#145)

Part of that is your incorporation of religious beliefs into your posts. I don't want to see my miracles mixed in with my physics, you know what I mean?

Where have I ever done that? You are the one that frequently uses the term zionist, which is a person who seeks to build up Israel founded upon religious/political beliefs.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-25   23:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: FormerLurker (#146) (Edited)

I'm talking about pro-religious beliefs being the problem and talking about all your posts, not just this thread. You've already asked me about "spawn of satan" or some such stuff, on this thread. Many of your posts on this thread incorporate religious topics needlessly or overbroadly, it seems. I think it's been worse on other threads. It's pathetic, really. Your pal is even more tedious.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-25   23:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: FormerLurker (#146) (Edited)

You are the one that frequently uses the term zionist, which is a person who seeks to build up Israel founded upon religious/political beliefs.

Completely aside from the joys of mixing politics with religion, your opinion on what zionism is isn't shared by all Israelis, which, now that I think of it, alleviates part of the alleged joy. But anyway, religious or secular, it doesn't matter too much when the politics and the acts are the problem.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-25   23:59:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: nobody (#147)

Many of your posts on this thread incorporate religious topics needlessly or overbroadly, it seems. I think it's been worse on other threads. It's pathetic, really.

You know you're full of it and that you're the that has been dragging your religious terminology from thread to thread, not I. You are simply projecting your own faults onto others.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-06-26   15:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

911 Memorial Service

No Longer Available on Google.

"911 changed everything. and they loved it... The neocons believed they should be world conquerers.. 20 or 30 people who hijack our domestic civil liberties policy, economic policy, foreign policy..

...and thats what they wanted." - Ron Paul

angle  posted on  2008-06-28   16:57:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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