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Title: Obama Changes Presidential Seal
Source: Newsmax
URL Source: http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/ob ... 43.html?s=al&promo_code=64B7-1
Published: Jun 23, 2008
Author: Newsmax
Post Date: 2008-06-23 10:39:03 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: Obama, Presidential Seal
Views: 697
Comments: 26

Obama Changes Presidential Seal

Sunday, June 22, 2008 4:53 PM

Sen. Barack Obama has promised "change," and his campaign has already been hard at work changing one of the basic symbols of the nation — the Presidential Seal.

On Friday, the press was abuzz over the new seal, which was unveiled on Obama's podium when he spoke to a group of Democratic governors.

While the Obama seal does include the American bald eagle clutching arrows and an olive branch, the resemblance ends there.

The Latin phrase "E Pluribus Unum," which translates to "Out of many, one," now says "Vero Possumus." Press reports translate the Latin words as "Truly, we are able" — a rough translation of the Obama campaign slogan, "Yes we can."

The deletion of "E Pluribus Unum," long considered the de-facto motto of the United States, is not accidental for multiculturalists, who have long denigrated the concept that immigrants must strip away their old culture in favor of the "oneness" of American civilization.

In the 1990s, such activists promoted the alternative concept of the nation's ethnic "mosaic," rather than a single, overarching metaphor to describe American society. For example, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan has pointedly criticized the "E Pluribus Unum" motto as not reflecting the nation's diversity.

Other Obama changes to the seal include the removal of the shield over the eagle's breast, representing the president's oath to defend the Constitution. The shield has been replaced with the letter "O" — presumably for Obama — and the image of a rising sun.

"This is too serious a contest about too serious of issues for a candidate to be playing make-believe on the trail," Brian Rogers, a spokesman for presumptive Republican nominee Sen. John McCain, told The Los Angeles Times.

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TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-06-23   10:39:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent (#1)

"Other Obama changes to the seal include the removal of the shield over the eagle's breast, representing the president's oath to defend the Constitution. The shield has been replaced with the letter "O" — presumably for Obama — and the image of a rising sun."

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-06-23   10:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

it sounds as though Obama knows he's the selection, doesn't it?

christine  posted on  2008-06-23   11:04:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#3)

it sounds as though Obama knows he's the selection, doesn't it?

Surging Obama sets sights on Republican states

A Newsweek poll released at the weekend shows Senator Obama with a substantial double-digit lead, 51% to 36%, over his Republican rival, John McCain.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-06-23   11:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

"Vero Possumus."

Yep. Sounds like an animal from Africa to me...

Keisha Brown, 21, from Chicago, whose mother has a nightgown with a picture of Obama on it, said, “Everything will be different now.”

Tauzero  posted on  2008-06-23   13:35:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TwentyTwelve, Christine (#0)

"Yes, we can"

"Si, se puede"

and now

"Vero Possumus"

LOL, they're just messin with us now. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-06-23   13:40:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

This guy must be doing coke right now. I thought this was from the onion.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-23   13:47:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: RickyJ (#7)

This guy must be doing coke right now. I thought this was from the onion.

I did, too. Face it. We're fucked.

The only decision you have to make now is the manner in which you will die...and whether or not you go alone or take a few with you.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx

"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx

IndieTX  posted on  2008-06-23   15:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: RickyJ (#7)

This guy must be doing coke right now. I thought this was from the onion.

you mean it's not???

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-23   20:57:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TwentyTwelve (#1)

That's supposed to be a rising sun?

It looks more like a rising moon to me.

"....There are two views of the world which stand eternally and implacably opposed to each other. One view seeks to place everything in the glare of day. Its understanding is bounded by that which can be dissected on the operating table of science. What cannot be seen does not exist. What cannot be brought into the light is not there. This is a world whose symbol is the sun that never waxes or wanes. It is always the same unblinking eye of fire. This is the world that wants to murder the night - to turn it into day.

But there is another world - and another people. A people that counts its seasons by the moon. A people who will emerge out of a deep darkness, just like the new moon that seems to renew itself out of a pitch black sky. A people in its darkest hour just before dawn. A people who lifts its gaze above the fluorescent glare of a world that knows no night.

The month of Tevet is the darkest time of the year. Its days are the shortest of the year and its nights the longest. The tribe associated with Tevet is the tribe of Dan. When the Children of Israel traveled and camped in the desert, they encircled the Holy Ark. The tribe of Dan was the most northerly encampment. The North is a dark cold place. The long nights of Tevet are even longer in the North. The Hebrew word for North - tzafon - is spelled the same as tzafun - which means hidden. The Talmud tells us that one of the names of the yetzer hara - the negative drive - is tzafuni (Succa 52). .....

....righteous people, on whose shoulders this world is standing. "

Seasons of the Moon - the Tribe of Dan

ohr.edu/yhiy/article.php/1401

oh oh. [ www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa009.html#6 ]

ALL IN THE DRAGON FAMILY

THE MEROVINGIAN ANCESTRY OF THE

2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES

http://watch.pair.com/dragon-lineage.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-23   21:20:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: IndieTX (#8)

The only decision you have to make now is the manner in which you will die...and whether or not you go alone or take a few with you.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-06-23   21:43:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Rotara, IndieTX (#11)

"....There are two views of the world which stand eternally and implacably opposed to each other. One view seeks to place everything in the glare of day. Its understanding is bounded by that which can be dissected on the operating table of science. What cannot be seen does not exist. What cannot be brought into the light is not there. This is a world whose symbol is the sun that never waxes or wanes. It is always the same unblinking eye of fire. This is the world that wants to murder the night - to turn it into day.

But there is another world - and another people. A people that counts its seasons by the moon. A people who will emerge out of a deep darkness, just like the new moon that seems to renew itself out of a pitch black sky. A people in its darkest hour just before dawn. A people who lifts its gaze above the fluorescent glare of a world that knows no night.

==================

The only decision you have to make now is the manner in which you will die...and whether or not you go alone or take a few with you.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mal/4/2.html

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze038.html#18 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rom/Rom009.html#6....

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rev/Rev021.html#22,23.....

The Blood Moon Eclipse

http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=75014

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-24   8:16:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#12)

The Blood Moon Eclipse

http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=75014

Gen 49:17 Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.

"biteth"

nashak (Strong's H5391) Hebrew for H5391

1) to bite

a) (Qal) to bite

b) (Piel) to bite

2) to pay, give interest, lend for interest or usury

a) (Qal) to give interest

b) (Hiphil) to make to give interest

"heels"

`aqeb (Strong's H6119) Hebrew for H6119

Outline of Biblical Usage

1) heel, rear, footprint, hinder part, hoof, rear of a troop, footstep

a) heel

b) mark of heel, footprint

c) hinder part, rear

Abraham Lincoln: "I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at the rear is my greatest foe."

Gen 49:18 — I have waited for thy salvation, O LORD.

www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Gen/49/18.html

Act 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, [even] by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

Act 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Act/4/12.html

......Isa 1:14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear [them].

Isa 1:15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Isa 1:16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;

Isa 1:17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

Isa 1:18 ¶ Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Isa 1:19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

Isa 1:20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken [it].

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa001.html#18

Amo 8:4 ¶ Hear this, O ye that swallow up the needy, even to make the poor of the land to fail,

Amo 8:5 Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat, making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit?

Amo 8:6 That we may buy the poor for silver, and the needy for a pair of shoes; [yea], and sell the refuse of the wheat?

Amo 8:7 ¶ The LORD hath sworn by the excellency of Jacob, Surely I will never forget any of their works.

Amo 8:8 Shall not the land tremble for this, and every one mourn that dwelleth therein? and it shall rise up wholly as a flood; and it shall be cast out and drowned, as [by] the flood of Egypt.

Amo 8:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day:

Amo 8:10 And I will turn your feasts into mourning, and all your songs into lamentation; and I will bring up sackcloth upon all loins, and baldness upon every head; and I will make it as the mourning of an only [son], and the end thereof as a bitter day. ......

Amo 8:14 They that swear by the sin of Samaria, and say, Thy god, O Dan, liveth; and, The manner of Beersheba liveth; even they shall fall, and never rise up again.

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Amo/Amo008.html#14

Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, [that] I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Deu/30/19.html

Deu 30:20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, [and] that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he [is] thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Deu/30/20.html

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ........

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Gal 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gal/Gal003.html#16

Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond [nor] free: but Christ [is] all, and in all.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-24   9:26:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Rotara (#13) (Edited)

Gen 50:15 ¶ And when Joseph's brethren saw that their father was dead, they said, Joseph will peradventure hate us, and will certainly requite us all the evil which we did unto him.

Gen 50:16 And they sent a messenger unto Joseph, saying, Thy father did command before he died, saying,

Gen 50:17 So shall ye say unto Joseph, Forgive, I pray thee now, the trespass of thy brethren, and their sin; for they did unto thee evil: and now, we pray thee, forgive the trespass of the servants of the God of thy father. And Joseph wept when they spake unto him.

Gen 50:18 And his brethren also went and fell down before his face; and they said, Behold, we [be] thy servants.

Gen 50:19 And Joseph said unto them, Fear not: for [am] I in the place of God?

Gen 50:20 But as for you, ye thought evil against me; [but] God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as [it is] this day, to save much people alive. [ http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1Cr/1Cr004.html#5 ]

Gen 50:21 Now therefore fear ye not: I will nourish you, and your little ones. And he comforted them, and spake kindly unto them.

=======================

Mat 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

Mat 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

Mat 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Mat 9:6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.

Mat 18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?

Mat 18:22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

......Eze 36:13 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because they say unto you, Thou [land] [***see below] devourest up men, and hast bereaved thy nations;

Eze 36:14 Therefore thou shalt devour men no more, neither bereave thy nations any more, saith the Lord GOD.

Eze 36:15 Neither will I cause [men] to hear in thee the shame of the heathen any more, neither shalt thou bear the reproach of the people any more, neither shalt thou cause thy nations to fall any more, saith the Lord GOD........

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze036.html

*** "..... The United States of America is the nationality that is promised in the prophetic Scriptures to arise in the latter times as Israel Restored. It has long been a favorite theory, both with Jewish and Christian writers, that the nationality to be gathered together in the latter days, was understood to mean the returned or restoration of the scattered sons of Abraham to the land of Palestine.

We are not surprised at the confidence with which this opinion has been entertained from age to age, because it is a legitimate a priori interpretation, seeing this nationality is called "Israel" by the prophets.

In a conversation had with a venerable Bishop of the Episcopal Church, he inquired of us: "Sir, by what construction of language do you make the great nationality, promised to arise in the latter times, to mean the United States? That the Bible authorizes us to expect such a nationality there can be no doubt; but how do you make out that nationality to be the United States of America, as it was promised to be Israel?" To which we replied: "Beloved Bishop, the predictions of the prophets are put up in Hebrew dress; the regalia is Mosaic, the custom is Israelitish. They did not say, friends of civil and religious liberty, Americans, or even Christians; but they used the best terms they had on hand: they said 'Israel.'" ......"

The United States of America Foretold in Prophecy

http://www.originofnations.org/old_bi_literature/Pitts.htm

=================

Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rev/Rev005.html#9

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-24   9:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#14)

"Sir, by what construction of language do you make the great nationality, promised to arise in the latter times, to mean the United States? That the Bible authorizes us to expect such a nationality there can be no doubt; but how do you make out that nationality to be the United States of America, as it was promised to be Israel?" To which we replied: "Beloved Bishop, the predictions of the prophets are put up in Hebrew dress; the regalia is Mosaic, the custom is Israelitish. They did not say, friends of civil and religious liberty, Americans, or even Christians; but they used the best terms they had on hand: they said 'Israel.'" ......"

That's quite a leap IMO. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-06-24   12:03:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: AllTheKingsHorsesWontDoIt (#14)

Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Revelation 5 - The Lion, the Lamb, and THE SCROLL - [Deed to Planet Earth?]

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=82643

Joint heirs with Christ:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rom/Rom008.html#17 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Rom/8/17.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-24   12:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Rotara (#15) (Edited)

"Sir, by what construction of language do you make the great nationality, promised to arise in the latter times, to mean the United States? That the Bible authorizes us to expect such a nationality there can be no doubt; but how do you make out that nationality to be the United States of America, as it was promised to be Israel?" To which we replied: "Beloved Bishop, the predictions of the prophets are put up in Hebrew dress; the regalia is Mosaic, the custom is Israelitish. They did not say, friends of civil and religious liberty, Americans, or even Christians; but they used the best terms they had on hand: they said 'Israel.'" ......"

That's quite a leap IMO. ;-)

Not if you can connect the dots....

2Sa 7:10 Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime,

1Ch 17:9 Also I will ordain a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, and they shall dwell in their place, and shall be moved no more; neither shall the children of wickedness waste them any more, as at the beginning,

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/2Sa/7/10.html

......Eze 34:10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.

Eze 34:11 ¶ For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, [even] I [ http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Isa/9/6.html ], will both search my sheep, and seek them out.

[Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mat/15/24.html ]

Eze 34:12 As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep [that are] scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.

Eze 34:13 And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.

Eze 34:14 I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high mountains of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in a good fold, and [in] a fat pasture shall they feed upon the mountains of Israel.

Eze 34:15 I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down, saith the Lord GOD.

Eze 34:16 I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up [that which was] broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment........

Read all of Ezekiel 34. [ http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze034.html#top ]. It's for the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel [ http://www.geocities.com/Athens/..._Church_Is_Israel_Now.htm ]

Read John 10. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn010.html . Who are the Sheep; who are NOT?

Jhn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if [it were] not [so], I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Jhn 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, [there] ye may be also.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn014.html#2

Compare:

Exd 19:4 Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and [how] I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Exd/Exd019.html#4

Rev 12:13 ¶ And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man [child].

Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.....

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rev/Rev012.html#14

Eze 20:33 ¶ [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:

Eze 20:34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.

Eze 20:35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.

Eze 20:36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD.

Eze 20:37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:

Eze 20:38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD.......

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze020.html#33

Jhn 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

Jhn 19:15 But they cried out, Away with [him], away with [him], crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.

****Battle of the Two Eagles: [Christian America vs. The United States[CorpUSA]/Christianity vs. Judaism/The Word of God vs. The Talmud, the Battle the Lamb Wins: http://www.fixedearth.com/talmud.html ]

Eze 17:1 ¶ And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

Eze 17:2 Son of man, put forth a riddle, and speak a parable unto the house of Israel [ http://www.geocities.com/Athens/..._Church_Is_Israel_Now.htm ];

Eze 17:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; A great eagle with great wings, longwinged, full of feathers, which had divers colours, came unto Lebanon, and took the highest branch of the cedar [ the cedar = The royal and ancient family of David. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Eze/17/3.html ]

Eze 17:4 He cropped off the top of his young twigs, and carried it into a land of traffick; he set it in a city of merchants. [ http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cmlaw13.htm ]

Eze 17:5 He took also of the seed of the land [ http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mat/13/37.html / http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gal/Gal003.html#29 ], and planted it in a fruitful field; he placed [it] by great waters [ SYMBOL: THE CROSS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Henry_Memorial ], [and] set it [as] a willow tree.

Eze 17:6 And it grew, and became a spreading vine of low stature, whose branches turned toward him, and the roots thereof were under him: so it became a vine, and brought forth branches, and shot forth sprigs.

[Jhn 15:1 I AM the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. (First Eagle) .....Mat 15:13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. ]

Eze 17:7 ¶ There was also another great eagle with great wings [ http://www.gemworld.com/us-symbol-1dol.html ] and many feathers: and, behold, this vine did bend her roots toward him, and shot forth her branches toward him, that he might water it by the furrows of her plantation.

Eze 17:8 It was planted in a good soil by great waters, that it might bring forth branches, and that it might bear fruit [ http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn015.html#16 ], that it might be a goodly vine.

Eze 17:9 ¶ Say thou, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Shall it prosper? shall he not pull up the roots thereof, and cut off the fruit thereof, that it wither? it shall wither in all the leaves of her spring, even without great power or many people to pluck it up by the roots thereof.

Eze 17:10 Yea, behold, [being] planted, shall it prosper? shall it not utterly wither, when the east wind toucheth it? it shall wither in the furrows where it grew. [Matthew 15:13]

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The United States of America Foretold in Prophecy

http://www.originofnations.org/old_bi_literature/Pitts.htm

Did you read it?

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-24   13:08:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: All (#17)

Eze 17:2 Son of man, put forth a riddle, and speak a parable unto the house of Israel [ http://www.geocities.com/Athens/..._Church_Is_Israel_Now.htm ];

Eze 17:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; A great eagle with great wings, longwinged, full of feathers, which had divers colours, came unto Lebanon, and took the highest branch of the cedar [ the cedar = The royal and ancient family of David. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Eze/17/3.html ]

Jer 33:15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

Zec 3:8 Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they [are] men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the BRANCH.

Zec 6:12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name [is] The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, **** and he shall build the temple of the LORD: www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Zec/Zec006.html#12 / www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Zec/6/12.html [ 1Cr 3:16 ****Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? ]

Jhn 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

Isa 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Luk/Luk003.html#32 [The genealogy of Mary]

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa011.html#1 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Isa/11/1.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-24   14:09:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#17)

So then, when God says "everlasting covenant" it should include "caveat emptor"?

Too far a stretch for me to grab. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-06-24   14:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Rotara (#19) (Edited)

So then, when God says "everlasting covenant" it should include "caveat emptor"?

God fulfilled the covenant with the House of Israel and the House of Judah. They broke it. He promised a New Covenant.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/c...erlasting+covenant&page=1

Hbr 13:20 ¶ Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

Hbr 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

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Jos 23:14 And, behold, this day I [am] going the way of all the earth: and ye know in all your hearts and in all your souls, that not one thing hath failed of all the good things which the LORD your God spake concerning you; all are come to pass unto you, [and] not one thing hath failed thereof.

Jos 23:15 Therefore it shall come to pass, [that] as all good things are come upon you, which the LORD your God promised you; so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things, until he have destroyed you from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you.

Jos 23:16 When ye have transgressed the covenant of the LORD your God, which he commanded you, and have gone and served other gods, and bowed yourselves to them; then shall the anger of the LORD be kind led against you, and ye shall perish quickly from off the good land which he hath given unto you.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jos/Jos023.html#14

Jer 11:10 They are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers, which refused to hear my words; and they went after other gods to serve them: the house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken my covenant which I made with their fathers.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jer/Jer011.html#10

The words new covenant occur in 4 verses, including 3 exact phrase matches shown first:

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

Jer 31:33 But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Jer/31/34.html

Act 13:38 Be it known unto you therefore, men [and] brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:

Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Hbr 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Hbr 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

Hbr 8:10 For this [is] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Hbr 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

Hbr 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

Hbr 8:13 In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away.

Hbr 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than [that of] Abel.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Hbr/Hbr008.html#10

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Dan/9/27.html

Mat 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament [i.e., covenant], which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mat/26/28.html

Mar 14:24 And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.

Here is the 1 remaining inexact match:

Hbr 8:13 In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away.

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Gal 3:17 And this I say, [that] ***** the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul [i.e., "annul"], that it should make the promise of none effect......

Gal 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Gal/3/16.html

See also Genesis 15:13-14. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gen/Gen015.html#13 . It was given before the law, before the Israelites went into Egypt, where they remained for 430 years to the day, only about 160 of which were they afflicted.

See "The United States is Still a [Judeo]British Colony, Extorting Taxes for the Crown". Think.

edit: see also:

Hoffman reveals: The Forgotten Slaves--Whites in Servitude It reported that White slaves were locked below deck for two weeks while the slaveship was still in port. Once under way, they were "all the way locked up ... www.revisionisthistory.org/forgottenslaves.html

YouTube - They were White and They were Slaves - 1 of 3 Mar 21, 2008 ... Ernst Zundel interviews Michael Hoffman about his book on White slaves. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugo1YxZWWJ8

Christian America is the seed God was talking about in Genesis !5:13-14.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-24   15:39:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#20)

disannul [i.e., "annul"]

Irregardless [i.e., "regardless"], now I feel like pulling out all my hair, eating it and puking. Can you top THAT? Hah???

nobody  posted on  2008-06-24   15:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#20)

a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

Wholly, or partly?

Promises = Good stuff

That much I know.

nobody  posted on  2008-06-24   15:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#20)

a better covenant, which was established upon better promises

Know how much better?

More than one BEEEELion percent!

nobody  posted on  2008-06-24   15:55:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: nobody (#22)

a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

Wholly, or partly?

Promises = Good stuff

:}

good stuff, GREAT stuff, once the bad stuff is wholly behind us.....

2Sa 7:10 Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime,

1Ch 17:9 Also I will ordain a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, and they shall dwell in their place, and shall be moved no more; neither shall the children of wickedness waste them any more, as at the beginning,

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-24   16:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#10)

....righteous people, on whose shoulders this world is standing. "

Seasons of the Moon - the Tribe of Dan

oh oh. [ www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa009.html#6 ]

"...The Obama Messiah Watch

Introducing a periodic feature considering evidence that Obama is the son of God.

By Timothy Noah Posted Monday, Jan. 29, 2007, at 6:23 PM ET

Is Barack Obama—junior U.S. senator from Illinois, best-selling author, Harvard Law Review editor, Men's Vogue cover model, and "exploratory" presidential candidate—the second coming of our Savior and our Redeemer, Prince of Peace and King of Kings, Jesus Christ?

His press coverage suggests we can't dismiss this possibility out of hand. I therefore inaugurate the Obama Messiah Watch, which will periodically highlight gratuitously adoring biographical details that appear in newspaper, television, and magazine profiles of this otherworldly presence in our midst....."

"....“Well, first of all, I believe in an Almighty God, and I believe that all the world, whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God. That’s what I believe. I believe that Islam is a great religion that preaches peace. And I believe people who murder the innocent to achieve political objectives aren’t religious people, whether they be a Christian who does that – we had a person blow up our – blow up a federal building in Oklahoma City who professed to be a Christian, but that’s not a Christian act to kill innocent people.

The Kingdom is surely near. Whats next? Will Obama raise the dead so their right to vote isn’t suppressed?..."

supportbordercontrols.blo...christ-messiah.html#links

"...Barack Obama has a long history of defying the intended morality of scripture. As a state legislator he actively worked to preserve availability of abortion in all nine months of pregnancy. He opposed parental notification. He opposed any and all bans on partial birth abortion (an act that includes delivery of the baby up to the head, the crushing of the baby's brain, the suctioning of the brain matter, and then completed delivery of the child's deflated cranium.) In his run for the U.S. Senate Obama even asked his wife to pen a letter to Illinois voters that reassured them of his commitment to fighting for the right to butcher children in the womb.

Barack Obama has long supported the advance of the radical homosexual activist lobby in their pursuit to destroy traditional marriage. He supported the creation of "special rights" for people who engage in homosexuality for the sole purpose of putting them at the front of the line on issues of employment, housing, and litigation. He has also solidly backed the advancement of all "hate crimes" legislation, which ultimately may be used to silence clergy who believe according to their own convictions that homosexual behavior is wrong and preach so from biblical texts. Barack Obama has a perfect voting record against the defense of marriage.

Barack Obama advocates continued funding for Planned Parenthood clinics in our nation's inner cities which are performing genocide against the populations of African Americans living there.

And most damnable of all, when a brave nurse named Jill Stanek brought about national awareness to a practice at a local hospital in suburban Chicago that allowed the starvation and neglect of newly born children who had survived abortion procedures - Obama opposed her. He opposed the right of those children to be given the chance to live and he advocated against a ban on such procedures - then known as "born alive abortions."....."

"....

The Phoenix Bird The Sign Of Lucifer
Lapel Pin For Obama vs. America's Flag
www.exposingsatanism.org/signsymbols.htm ....."

clifylq.livejournal.com/62126.html

Obama's Abortion Bombshell: Unrestricted Abortion Over Wishes of Individual States a Priority for Presidency

"WASHINGTON, D.C., June 10, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Barack Obama, the presumptive pro-abortion nominee of the Democratic Party, has plans to reward the allies that helped him topple Hillary Clinton from her throne by making total unrestricted abortion in the United States his number one priority as president.

In light of Obama's recently achieved status as the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, Focus on the Family's CitizenLink has decided to remind its supporters that almost one year has passed since Obama made his vows to the Planned Parenthood Action Fund that abortion would be the first priority of his administration.

"The first thing I'd do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act," Obama said in his July speech to abortion advocates worried about the increase of pro-life legislation at the state level.

The Freedom of Choice Act (FOCA) is legislation Obama has co-sponsored along with 18 other senators that would annihilate every single state law limiting or regulating abortion, including the federal ban on partial birth abortion.

The 2007 version of FOCA proposed: "It is the policy of the United States that every woman has the fundamental right to choose to bear a child, to terminate a pregnancy prior to fetal viability, or to terminate a pregnancy after fetal viability when necessary to protect the life or health of the woman."

Obama made his remarks in a question-and-answer session after delivering a speech crystallizing for abortion advocates his deep-seated abortion philosophy and his belief that federal legislation will break pro-life resistance and end the national debate on abortion. (see transcript: lauraetch.googlepages.com...obamabeforeplannedpar...)

"I am absolutely convinced that culture wars are so nineties; their days are growing dark, it is time to turn the page," Obama said in July. "We want a new day here in America. We're tired about arguing about the same ole' stuff. And I am convinced we can win that argument."

Besides making abortion on demand a "fundamental right" throughout the United States, FOCA would effectively nullify informed consent laws, waiting periods, health safety regulations for abortion clinics, etc.

Furthermore, medical professionals and institutions that refused abortions also would lose legal protections. FOCA would expose individuals, organizations, and governments - including federal, state, and local government agencies - to costly civil actions for purported violations of the act.

"Thirty-five years after Roe, abortion supporters, like Senator Obama, are dismayed that abortion remains a divisive issue and that their radical agenda has not been submissively accepted by the American public," states Denise M. Burke, vice president of Americans United for Life.

"Rather than confronting legitimate issues concerning the availability and safety of abortion, they choose to blatantly ignore the concerns and interests of everyday Americans, as well as the growing evidence that abortion hurts women."

Hillary Clinton, once the longtime Democratic front-runner and anticipated abortion president, conceded defeat last Saturday to Obama, who captured the nomination from her after a long and bitter campaign.

Obama has won the crucial endorsement of abortion activist Frances Kissling, who broke from the ranks of other radical feminist leaders earlier this year to endorse Obama, saying Obama, not Clinton, would better use the bully pulpit of the presidency to accomplish their aims and end the culture wars over abortion."

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=82139

. Psa 106:37 Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils,

Psa 106:38 And shed innocent blood, [even] the blood of their sons and of their daughters, whom they sacrificed unto the idols of Canaan: and the land was polluted with blood.

Lev 18:21 And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through [the fire] to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I [am] the LORD.

Lev 20:2 Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever [he be] of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth [any] of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones.

Lev 20:3 And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name.

Lev 20:4 And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not:

Lev 20:5 Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people.

www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Lev/18/21.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-25   10:49:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#25)

How The Jews Have Repaid America Jewish Quote: "We will openly reveal our identity with the races of Asia and Africa." ........ christianparty.net/wm/reward-1.htm

"....What Obama's Church Preaches

Well, well, well, ... In case you missed this little gem, Erik Rush as done a little digging into Barack Hussein Obama's church, Trinity United Church of Christ . This may be more damning to Obama than his Muslim history:

... afrocentric in the extreme would be a gross understatement. It's not simply afrocentric, it's African-centric. In fact, one could argue that this organization worships things African to a far greater degree than they do Christ, and gives the impression of being a separatist "church" in the same vein as do certain supremacist "white brethren" churches – or even Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam.

Shocking? An overstatement? An overreaction?

One can see for oneself on the Trinity United Church website, which is replete with confirmation of what I present here. What follows is an excerpt from their Mission Statement:

"We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

"Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System."

Sound familiar? Of course it is, since it's identical to the 12-point list ... – the one from the theoretical white supremacist candidate's church; the only difference is the substitution of the word "Black" for "White."

That identical 12-point list Mr. Rush refers to was found at the beginning of his article:

How many Americans would vote for a presidential candidate who was the member of a church that professed the following credo?

1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.

The question is rhetorical, of course. The answer is that such a candidate wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected dog catcher (apologies to America's animal rescue and public safety personnel) let alone President, because that candidate would be instantly branded a racist, among the most vile and frightening of white supremacists.

righttruth.typepad.com/ri...7/02/what_obamas_chu.html ...."

clifylq.livejournal.com/62126.html

The Illuminati and The Council on Foreign Relations "We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial-tension. ..... the "Council on Foreign Relations;" the new name under which the Illuminati ... usa-the-republic.com/illuminati/cfr_1.html

".... Pike stated that after World War III is ended; those who will aspire to undisputed world-domination will provoke the greatest social-cataclysm the world has ever known. Quoting his own words taken from the letter he wrote to Mazzini and which letter is now catalogued in the British Museum in London, England; he said:

"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social-cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute-atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world-minority of the world-revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal-manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time."......"

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".... back in 1997, I was researching some things for my catalog and I came across this document. It was in this white paper with no other apparantly related articles. I struck a "chord" when I read the word "Identity" in it. I am going to scan it in in the near future, but for now, here is what it says : A new international order is our national goal and will be achieved in the interest of peace and stability. To further this goal all Earl of Dysart fronts including all identity movements must be protected. Only limited official reaction to these groups must be allowed.

This operation is classified under the highest priority. It must only be referred to as Earl of Dysart.

To appear spontaneous, funding must come from the adherants as much as possible and it must be expanded as a religious movement.

Public media must cooperate under equal access directives.

Earl of Dysart must be protected under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Counter moves must be limited to religious debate and monitored closely.

It sounds to me like "Christian Identity" is in reality, a CIA Intelligence operation in disguise. Most likely, to foment revolution in America, to ignite race wars between whites and jews, blacks and jews, and whites and blacks. Also, most likely, to gather intelligence and information on those in the so called "patriot movement", sovereigns, anti-abortionists and other foes of the "New World Order". It also appears that this could be used to bring about terrorism in order to pass anti-terrorism laws into effect, thereby guaranteeing a more "peaceful and stable" national state. Isn't it a strange coincidence how Rev. Robert Millar (Grandpa), who ran "Elohim City", the christian identity compound where Timothy McVeigh was staying, was exposed in court proceedings as an FBI informant. This was the same man who told the followers that if they didn't do something to strick at the heart of the Federal Government by April 19th, that the government was going to attack them. This man directly encouraged the bombing of the Oklahoma Federal Building by Timothy McVeigh, and he was an FBI informant and he was the head of "Elohim City". ...."

www.freedomdomain.com/Racism/racism.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-25   11:34:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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