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Title: Obama Changes Presidential Seal
Source: Newsmax
URL Source: http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/ob ... 43.html?s=al&promo_code=64B7-1
Published: Jun 23, 2008
Author: Newsmax
Post Date: 2008-06-23 10:39:03 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: Obama, Presidential Seal
Views: 799
Comments: 26

Obama Changes Presidential Seal

Sunday, June 22, 2008 4:53 PM

Sen. Barack Obama has promised "change," and his campaign has already been hard at work changing one of the basic symbols of the nation — the Presidential Seal.

On Friday, the press was abuzz over the new seal, which was unveiled on Obama's podium when he spoke to a group of Democratic governors.

While the Obama seal does include the American bald eagle clutching arrows and an olive branch, the resemblance ends there.

The Latin phrase "E Pluribus Unum," which translates to "Out of many, one," now says "Vero Possumus." Press reports translate the Latin words as "Truly, we are able" — a rough translation of the Obama campaign slogan, "Yes we can."

The deletion of "E Pluribus Unum," long considered the de-facto motto of the United States, is not accidental for multiculturalists, who have long denigrated the concept that immigrants must strip away their old culture in favor of the "oneness" of American civilization.

In the 1990s, such activists promoted the alternative concept of the nation's ethnic "mosaic," rather than a single, overarching metaphor to describe American society. For example, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan has pointedly criticized the "E Pluribus Unum" motto as not reflecting the nation's diversity.

Other Obama changes to the seal include the removal of the shield over the eagle's breast, representing the president's oath to defend the Constitution. The shield has been replaced with the letter "O" — presumably for Obama — and the image of a rising sun.

"This is too serious a contest about too serious of issues for a candidate to be playing make-believe on the trail," Brian Rogers, a spokesman for presumptive Republican nominee Sen. John McCain, told The Los Angeles Times.

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#7. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

This guy must be doing coke right now. I thought this was from the onion.

RickyJ  posted on  2008-06-23   13:47:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: RickyJ (#7)

This guy must be doing coke right now. I thought this was from the onion.

I did, too. Face it. We're fucked.

The only decision you have to make now is the manner in which you will die...and whether or not you go alone or take a few with you.

IndieTX  posted on  2008-06-23   15:28:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: IndieTX (#8)

The only decision you have to make now is the manner in which you will die...and whether or not you go alone or take a few with you.

Rotara  posted on  2008-06-23   21:43:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Rotara, IndieTX (#11)

"....There are two views of the world which stand eternally and implacably opposed to each other. One view seeks to place everything in the glare of day. Its understanding is bounded by that which can be dissected on the operating table of science. What cannot be seen does not exist. What cannot be brought into the light is not there. This is a world whose symbol is the sun that never waxes or wanes. It is always the same unblinking eye of fire. This is the world that wants to murder the night - to turn it into day.

But there is another world - and another people. A people that counts its seasons by the moon. A people who will emerge out of a deep darkness, just like the new moon that seems to renew itself out of a pitch black sky. A people in its darkest hour just before dawn. A people who lifts its gaze above the fluorescent glare of a world that knows no night.

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The only decision you have to make now is the manner in which you will die...and whether or not you go alone or take a few with you.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mal/4/2.html

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze038.html#18 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rom/Rom009.html#6....

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rev/Rev021.html#22,23.....

The Blood Moon Eclipse

http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=75014

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-24   8:16:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#12)

The Blood Moon Eclipse

http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=75014

Gen 49:17 Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.

"biteth"

nashak (Strong's H5391) Hebrew for H5391

1) to bite

a) (Qal) to bite

b) (Piel) to bite

2) to pay, give interest, lend for interest or usury

a) (Qal) to give interest

b) (Hiphil) to make to give interest

"heels"

`aqeb (Strong's H6119) Hebrew for H6119

Outline of Biblical Usage

1) heel, rear, footprint, hinder part, hoof, rear of a troop, footstep

a) heel

b) mark of heel, footprint

c) hinder part, rear

Abraham Lincoln: "I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at the rear is my greatest foe."

Gen 49:18 — I have waited for thy salvation, O LORD.

www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Gen/49/18.html

Act 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, [even] by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

Act 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Act/4/12.html

......Isa 1:14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear [them].

Isa 1:15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Isa 1:16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;

Isa 1:17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

Isa 1:18 ¶ Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Isa 1:19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

Isa 1:20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken [it].

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa001.html#18

Amo 8:4 ¶ Hear this, O ye that swallow up the needy, even to make the poor of the land to fail,

Amo 8:5 Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat, making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit?

Amo 8:6 That we may buy the poor for silver, and the needy for a pair of shoes; [yea], and sell the refuse of the wheat?

Amo 8:7 ¶ The LORD hath sworn by the excellency of Jacob, Surely I will never forget any of their works.

Amo 8:8 Shall not the land tremble for this, and every one mourn that dwelleth therein? and it shall rise up wholly as a flood; and it shall be cast out and drowned, as [by] the flood of Egypt.

Amo 8:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day:

Amo 8:10 And I will turn your feasts into mourning, and all your songs into lamentation; and I will bring up sackcloth upon all loins, and baldness upon every head; and I will make it as the mourning of an only [son], and the end thereof as a bitter day. ......

Amo 8:14 They that swear by the sin of Samaria, and say, Thy god, O Dan, liveth; and, The manner of Beersheba liveth; even they shall fall, and never rise up again.

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Amo/Amo008.html#14

Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, [that] I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Deu/30/19.html

Deu 30:20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, [and] that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he [is] thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Deu/30/20.html

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ........

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Gal 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gal/Gal003.html#16

Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond [nor] free: but Christ [is] all, and in all.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-24   9:26:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Rotara (#13) (Edited)

Gen 50:15 ¶ And when Joseph's brethren saw that their father was dead, they said, Joseph will peradventure hate us, and will certainly requite us all the evil which we did unto him.

Gen 50:16 And they sent a messenger unto Joseph, saying, Thy father did command before he died, saying,

Gen 50:17 So shall ye say unto Joseph, Forgive, I pray thee now, the trespass of thy brethren, and their sin; for they did unto thee evil: and now, we pray thee, forgive the trespass of the servants of the God of thy father. And Joseph wept when they spake unto him.

Gen 50:18 And his brethren also went and fell down before his face; and they said, Behold, we [be] thy servants.

Gen 50:19 And Joseph said unto them, Fear not: for [am] I in the place of God?

Gen 50:20 But as for you, ye thought evil against me; [but] God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as [it is] this day, to save much people alive. [ http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1Cr/1Cr004.html#5 ]

Gen 50:21 Now therefore fear ye not: I will nourish you, and your little ones. And he comforted them, and spake kindly unto them.

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Mat 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

Mat 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

Mat 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Mat 9:6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.

Mat 18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?

Mat 18:22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

......Eze 36:13 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because they say unto you, Thou [land] [***see below] devourest up men, and hast bereaved thy nations;

Eze 36:14 Therefore thou shalt devour men no more, neither bereave thy nations any more, saith the Lord GOD.

Eze 36:15 Neither will I cause [men] to hear in thee the shame of the heathen any more, neither shalt thou bear the reproach of the people any more, neither shalt thou cause thy nations to fall any more, saith the Lord GOD........

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze036.html

*** "..... The United States of America is the nationality that is promised in the prophetic Scriptures to arise in the latter times as Israel Restored. It has long been a favorite theory, both with Jewish and Christian writers, that the nationality to be gathered together in the latter days, was understood to mean the returned or restoration of the scattered sons of Abraham to the land of Palestine.

We are not surprised at the confidence with which this opinion has been entertained from age to age, because it is a legitimate a priori interpretation, seeing this nationality is called "Israel" by the prophets.

In a conversation had with a venerable Bishop of the Episcopal Church, he inquired of us: "Sir, by what construction of language do you make the great nationality, promised to arise in the latter times, to mean the United States? That the Bible authorizes us to expect such a nationality there can be no doubt; but how do you make out that nationality to be the United States of America, as it was promised to be Israel?" To which we replied: "Beloved Bishop, the predictions of the prophets are put up in Hebrew dress; the regalia is Mosaic, the custom is Israelitish. They did not say, friends of civil and religious liberty, Americans, or even Christians; but they used the best terms they had on hand: they said 'Israel.'" ......"

The United States of America Foretold in Prophecy

http://www.originofnations.org/old_bi_literature/Pitts.htm

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Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rev/Rev005.html#9

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-24   9:55:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#15. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#14)

"Sir, by what construction of language do you make the great nationality, promised to arise in the latter times, to mean the United States? That the Bible authorizes us to expect such a nationality there can be no doubt; but how do you make out that nationality to be the United States of America, as it was promised to be Israel?" To which we replied: "Beloved Bishop, the predictions of the prophets are put up in Hebrew dress; the regalia is Mosaic, the custom is Israelitish. They did not say, friends of civil and religious liberty, Americans, or even Christians; but they used the best terms they had on hand: they said 'Israel.'" ......"

That's quite a leap IMO. ;-)

Rotara  posted on  2008-06-24 12:03:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: AllTheKingsHorsesWontDoIt (#14)

Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Revelation 5 - The Lion, the Lamb, and THE SCROLL - [Deed to Planet Earth?]

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=82643

Joint heirs with Christ:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rom/Rom008.html#17 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Rom/8/17.html

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-24 12:06:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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