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Title: Federal team arrives to police massive Rainbows gathering (Gestapo U.S.A.)
Source: www.casperstartribune.net
URL Source: http://www.casperstartribune.net/ar ... 285d8608a68725747000006b71.txt
Published: Jun 25, 2008
Author: CHRIS MERRILL
Post Date: 2008-06-25 01:49:52 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 2514
Comments: 39

RIVERTON -- They come from every region of the United States. They drive or fly in -- just as they have to this central Wyoming city -- about 40 of them toting dogs, guns, cuffs and federal badges.

Their job from now to the first half of July will be to follow and police a massive group of counterculture campers who advocate peace and love for the planet earth, and who assemble annually on federal lands -- somewhere.

Just like the officers, the campers also come from all over America.

This year, as it has done for the past 11 years, the federal government has assembled a highly specialized force under the generic title, "Incident Management Team," to patrol the Rainbow Family of Living Light.

The Rainbow Family has assembled on public lands every year, somewhere in the United States, since 1972, and the events occasionally draw up to 25,000 participants. The family has no official leadership structure, and all decisions regarding the gathering and its location are always made spontaneously by a consensus of influential participants.

While those participants claim a constitutional right to assemble for "peaceable" purposes on federal lands with or without a permit, officials with the U.S. Forest Service cite a legal obligation to protect the natural and cultural resources under their care.

Up until this year, the team has generally approached the get-together as a technically illegal event. This year, however, as the Rainbows start to gather near Big Sandy in the Wind River Mountains, the federal government is trying what USDA Undersecretary Mark Rey described as an "experiment."

The Forest Service is attempting to work collaboratively with the Rainbow Family, under an operating plan, in recognition of the agency's inability to stop the event -- but also in an attempt to better protect the forest from the impact of tens of thousands of people, their vehicles, movements and waste.

The gathering will be in full swing in the Bridger-Teton National Forest July 1-7, although possibly more than 1,000 participants have already arrived and begun setting up camps, rest room facilities and water delivery systems.

Incident Commander Gene Smithson, a senior special agent with the Forest Service, has worked on the federal management team for Rainbow gatherings for the past four years. A good portion of his year-round job since he took over command has been to track Rainbow get-togethers, advise and consult with local authorities for smaller, regional gatherings that take place sporadically, and coordinate efforts to minimize the impacts of the assemblies whenever and wherever they happen, he said.

The Rainbow Family is a loosely affiliated jamboree of craft-trading, music-playing, dancing, juggling, often pot-smoking and sometimes semi-clad folks, many of whom reject some of the federal and state laws the officers are sworn to uphold.

Especially those laws that criminalize the possession and illicit use of controlled substances.

"There's a lot of drug use," Smithson said. "Marijuana, LSD, methamphetamines, mushrooms, cocaine, prescription pain meds. Just about everything."

Because of the sheer size of the gathering, and because the Family has no real membership structure, the gatherings inevitably draw not only those who subscribe to the basic tenets of the Rainbow philosophy -- which are centered on peace and a gentle existence -- but also draw known criminals, as well as violent and troubled individuals.

During last year's Arkansas gathering, officers arrested about 100 participants for a wide variety of offenses, including disorderly conduct and crimes related to alcohol abuse, Smithson said.

Federal authorities also often must respond to outbreaks of communicable diseases and maladies, such as tuberculosis, scabies and even dangerous bacterial infections, Smithson said.

The Rainbows operate their own medical treatment center at the camp site, he said, but they can't handle all types of medical ailments and emergencies.

At a recent Rainbow gathering, there was an outbreak of potentially deadly meningitis, Smithson said. Local health authorities had to scramble to treat dozens of participants.

The Forest Service is attempting to work as collaboratively as possible with the Rainbow Family, Smithson said, in order to better protect not only the forest but the people in and around the event.

Environment reporter Chris Merrill can be reached at chris.merrill@trib.com or at (307) 267-6722.


Poster Comment:

The bottom line folks is your right to assemble is extremely scary and inconvenient for the powers that be.

Without these twig pigs all that would happen is people would gather peacefully in the woods then go home. What is intimidating and unhealthy is not people exercising Constitutional Rights in a way that does not consume and buy event infrastructure services and insurance, but pigs intimidating unarmed people with automatic rifles, tasers, pepper spray, field court room set-ups to adjudicate harassment tickets on the spot to try to intimidate people into leaving.

I know people who have been beat up and arrested for merely going out to the woods with friends once a year.

The gathering peaks on July 4th, let's see what happens with it for all this garbage bullshit they have repackaged to try to sell this as kinder, gentler fascism we all need to protect ourselves from ourselves.

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#1. To: All, christine (#0)

Ping


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-25   1:50:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ferret Mike, ThreeShoesPosse (#1)

thanks, Mike. i've sent Deb a link to this.

christine  posted on  2008-06-25   1:53:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

but also draw known criminals, as well as violent and troubled individuals.

During last year's Arkansas gathering, officers arrested about 100 participants for a wide variety of offenses, including disorderly conduct and crimes related to alcohol abuse, Smithson said.

Federal authorities also often must respond to outbreaks of communicable diseases and maladies, such as tuberculosis, scabies and even dangerous bacterial infections, Smithson said.

omg, they're really reaching there.

christine  posted on  2008-06-25   1:56:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

pigs intimidating unarmed people with automatic rifles, tasers, pepper spray, field court room set-ups to adjudicate harassment tickets on the spot to try to intimidate people into leaving.

They have the 'Rainbow' Gathering up here every Summer. Bunch of hippies smoking weed and beating on bongo drums. No cops though. At least not harassing them. Yet.

I like hippies.

Been called one myself at least once.


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-25   2:05:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: wudidiz, christine (#3)

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Excellent footage of Rainbow hippies overpowering the cops' attempt at a roadblock. Hilarious. Taken at this year's gathering north of Steamboat Springs in Colorado.

Check this out. It will give you an idea of what Bush's America really wants to do with people who dare to enjoy constitutional rights.

They would of just loved to kill and imprison these people, make no mistake about it.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-25   2:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

They would of just loved to kill and imprison these people, make no mistake about it.

i believe it, but it's evident also that those cops were terrified of these people standing up to them.

i liked when the one guy said to the gestapo, "i'd like to hang every one of you MF'ers."

christine  posted on  2008-06-25   2:22:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine (#6)

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Officially I was charged with "Impeding a Forest Officer". In other words for getting in their way. Only I was aprox. Twenty Feet from where the arrest was taking place. The four gentlemen in this video where being detained and harassed over the suspicion they were smoking pot. (Although of the four only one was found in possession [of paraphernalia]) All four were handcuffed and un-consentingly searched. When I arrived "on the scene", I hit record and in only a few seconds Officer Willet, the arresting officer, yelled for me to get away.

I stood ground momentarily, but as he began to come toward me and threaten me with arrest, I started to back up but continue to record. Officer Willet then reached out while advancing and took, then dropped my camera to the ground. In the background you hear Sidd asking how they can do this. I asked for him to take my camera and the officer said "no, it's mine".

He then kept the camera and I had to either pay the 325 dollars for the ticket, or I could fight it and be forced to return to Florida as many times as it took to fight it. I paid the fine, wishing I lived closer. I also had to have a friend in Florida pick up the camera (from the NFS office)once I had paid off the ticket. And now I have this video and my camera. Surprisingly they did not delete the memory card.... As you can see, I was not impeding, I did not disrupt the scene, and I was only spectating which is perfectly legal.

They are good at inspiring anger in Rainbow Gatherings. When pigs come through, the cry goes up, "GUNS IN THE CHURCH!" This is a religious as well as a lawful congregation of people meeting to socialize and associate freely as is our right to under the U.S. Constitution. The Gathering is used to focus human consciousness on the concept of world peace.

Truly, when dealing with 'subversive internal dissidents' like these, they are loathe to not ultimately win by their terms.

Therein lies the problem. And another a great example of many existing reasons to return to Constitutional law and get rid of the tyranny being built up around us.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-25   2:41:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine (#6)

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Dressed in flak jackets and armed with handguns and several semi-automatic rifles, Rio Arriba County sheriff's deputies and Forest Service Law Enforcement officers raid a regional Rainbow Family gathering because the group's size dictates the needs for a special permit.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-25   2:45:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#6)

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also known as Jessicas video.. Was taken at this years rainbow gathering in Colorado.. This video was taken prior to the other one on youtube that was uploaded that showed the rainbows making a circle around the LEOS.. These unlawful roadblocks were occurring all the time and this is the only video to survive... Pass it out.

These Freddies are an interesting bunch. They have special training with foreign and domestic police agencies. Forest Activists who have dealt with them call them "Super Freddies."

They can be particularly dangerous and vicious.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-25   2:54:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ferret Mike, christine (#5)

I found some pictures of where they have it here. Sorry no hippies. No cops either. ;-)


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-25   3:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#6)

Rainbow Family of Living Light Unofficial Home Page

Legal Stuff section of this site


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-25   3:01:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

Excellent footage of Rainbow hippies overpowering the cops' attempt at a roadblock. Hilarious. Taken at this year's gathering north of Steamboat Springs in Colorado.

Holy **** Hahahaha!


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-25   3:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

Officially I was charged with "Impeding a Forest Officer"....

Whoah.


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-25   3:15:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ferret Mike (#9)

Jessicas video...

These Freddies are an interesting bunch. They have special training with foreign and domestic police agencies. Forest Activists who have dealt with them call them "Super Freddies."

They can be particularly dangerous and vicious.

Yikes.

Gestapo techniques.

Creepy.


"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-06-25   3:22:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#6)

i liked when the one guy said to the gestapo, "i'd like to hang every one of you MF'ers."

maybe we should have started a long time ago.

Shenandoah Trail of Tears

www.usgennet.org/usa/va/shenan/trail_of_tears.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-25   11:56:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#15)

went looking for and found this article and pics:

Anger in Appalachia

" Researchers Fighting to Open Records on 1930s Shenandoah Park Resettlement

By Leef Smith
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, March 6, 2000; Page B01

MADISON, Va.—The government forced Harold Woodward Jr.'s grandparents from their mountain cabin in Virginia's Blue Ridge.

Like hundreds of other families rooted in the land that was to become Shenandoah National Park, the Woodwards were ordered off their 198-year-old farm in the 1930s to make way for the new tourist destination.

Most visitors to the sprawling 196,800-acre park are unaware of the pain and resentment caused by its creation. Families that could prove ownership of their property were paid an average of $6 an acre and were unceremoniously moved off the mountain, their houses and chestnut cabins burned or torn down to make sure no one returned. The few who declined to leave were dragged from their homes, according to newspaper accounts......"

"....ALRA ADDITIONAL NOTE: Authorities removed this woman, who was five months pregnant, from her home. All the family’s belongings were piled on horse-drawn wagons and the chimney of their home was pulled down so they would not return, having lost their only source of heat. (This note was not a part of the Washington Post article)...." www.landrights.org/OCS/shenandoah.WashPost.htm

Ezekiel 38:10-13/Gen. 15:13-14.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-06-25   12:50:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

I have to speak up and say that they DO violate many of the laws and regulations that I have to obey when I go hunting on the Caddo National Grasslands with their pot-smoking, nudity, gathering in numbers that require special permits, etc.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-06-25   13:21:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

a wide variety of offenses, including disorderly conduct and crimes related to alcohol abuse, Smithson said.

Oh NO! Not THAT!

angle  posted on  2008-06-25   13:52:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: christine (#3)

even dangerous bacterial infections

Even THAT? Oh NO! Quick get 'em to a hospital...What? They have Dangerous Bacterial Infections in hospitals? Who knew?

angle  posted on  2008-06-25   13:55:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#15)

maybe we should have started a long time ago.

no doubt about it

christine  posted on  2008-06-25   14:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

often pot-smoking

That's it! They're EEEVIL!!!! :_) OMG I hate the press.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx

"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx

IndieTX  posted on  2008-07-05   17:29:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: IndieTX, christine (#21)

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Peace loving hippies gather at Maurie Jacobs park to drum, dance, and barter in the summer of 1995. Eugene police arrive to ruin the vibe and drive these loveable folks into a frenzied mass.

Here is a typical Cop/Eugene Oregon Whiteaker community confrontation from the 1990s. Enjoy.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-07-07   23:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: IndieTX. christine (#21)

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The infamose Eugene Tree Riot of June 1st 1997.

I was involved and heavily pepper sprayed and assaulted during this event, the biggest story of the year that year here.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-07-07   23:29:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

i don't mind telling you that i hate these guys.

christine  posted on  2008-07-07   23:30:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: IndieTX (#21)

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The latest Cop outrage, the recent tasering of a non-violent protester at Ken Kesey free speech plaza at Willamette and Broadway.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-07-07   23:37:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike (#23) (Edited)

did you and the others involved ever receive remuneration? probably not since your mayor claimed that he thought the police officers handled the situation appropriately....and, btw, seeing those tree stumps absolutely sickened me.

christine  posted on  2008-07-07   23:40:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: christine (#26)

Yeah, we got no satisfaction, as usual.

The man who is posting these videos is our very own Mr. Cop Watch Tim Lewis. Picture Eugene should have some good ones going up on You Tube this summer. The man you see trying to get his clothing cut legs away from the Pepper Spray, Jim Flynn was severely tortured.

They used really heavy pain compliance and if you notice how his pant legs are cut to his crotch, this was to be sure to get his genitals with the Capsium really well.

After dosing his right leg, they cut up his left pants leg and with his eyes welded shut in agony he jumped from one trunk lateral to another forty five feet above the pavement based on his desire to avoid the agony with only a rough idea where the lateral was.

We are lucky he did not fall and die. He gave up only when in backing up the cherry picker with a cable around his waist to pull on his body he feared blacking out.

The police had a huge waste can full of empty pepper spray containers at the end of this, and were terrified for their lives. We didn't know how terrified they were until we heard them tell each other in their videos to hole up n locked cop cars if we turned violent, which we never did.

Although, Smurf - a friend of mine got a righteous kick to the face of the cop spraying him sweeping off the oinker's mask. The State Police arrested him later.

Eugene Weekly's archive link to a sorty on this event


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-07-08   0:01:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ferret Mike (#25)

The latest Cop outrage, the recent tasering of a non-violent protester at Ken Kesey free speech plaza at Willamette and Broadway

You have some freak in a suit going around spraying an unknown substance. I don't usually agree with the pigs. But this seems justified. I watched over half the video but got bored. They guy was looking for trouble. Were you in this video?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-07-08   0:12:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: christine (#26)

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Picture Eugene - "Ain't on your Leash" Part 1

Picture Eugene - "Ain't on your Leash" Part 2

Here are some dear friends being themselves at the downtown election HQ then having fun at Election Central at the Lane Couty Fair Grounds in 2004.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-07-08   0:16:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Old Friend (#28)

It was obviously water. The pigs have a directive to disrupt any political activity we do. The Tasering was unwarranted, and was geared at not promoting public safety, but at disrupting political activity of people who hate the status quo.

I don't know if Tim has posted any video with me in it, I have not watched all he has posted. If I see one with me in it, I'll let you know.

Personally I think I am very articulate and photogenic. ;-)


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-07-08   0:22:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Ferret Mike (#30)

Maybe it was obviously water. I wasn't there so I can' really tell. But from what I saw of the video in todays climate (which I think was staged 911 etc) a police officer seeing a guy going around in a white suit spraying a clear substance would probably be alarming. There are other clear liquids that have no odor that aren't water. Do you see how a cop would possibly be alarmed by that behavior? Even it it didn't rise to the level of tazering someone. I personally think tazers should be banned. I think if someone is assaulted with a tazer they would be correct to view it as an attempt on their life and to act accordingly.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-07-08   0:28:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Old Friend (#28)

they attacked Ian when he was listening to a speaker with the water container on the ground next to him. two cops dragged him off, threw him on the ground, and tasered him. there is no justification whatsoever for handling a 140 lb young man who was NON THREATENING in that abusive manner.

christine  posted on  2008-07-08   0:34:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine (#32)

Maybe I didn't watch it close enough. Just seeing a guy in a white suit walking around spraying is what I got out of it. Me and you and others may know/believe that 911 was an inside job, and that this terrorist shit is a bunch of hype. But every cop on the beat may not know that. I assume that there are some good cops. I hope so anyway.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-07-08   0:37:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Old Friend (#31) (Edited)

For the Trees Tree-sitter, protester and activist Michael McCarthy, perched in a sweetgum in front of Shelton-McMurphey-Johnson (SMJ) House this week, says he "woke up to the sound of chainsaws."


An estimated 30 police officers stop and question about 10 protesters April 22 on their way to SMJ House.

Volunteer tree cutters contracted by SMJ House arrived at 6 am April 28 to cut down five trees. "The reason we want to remove the trees is to restore the historic landscape," says Rene Grube, director of Recreational Services. "We don't want anyone to get hurt."

At the sound of the chainsaws, McCarthy traversed from his sweetgum post to a nearby incense cedar, protecting both trees from the cut. McCarthy says he was told by one of the tree cutters, "I'd just as soon cut the tree with you in it." McCarthy claims he was threatened by one of the workers who mentioned "a gun in the truck." No stranger to tree-sits, McCarthy was seriously injured in a fall from a downtown tree during a protest in July 1998.

Kathleen Larson, director of the SMJ House, was not present during the cut and could not confirm nor deny the threats claimed by McCarthy. However, Larson says, "The policy we maintain with all SMJ House volunteers is that they should have no contact with McCarthy." She also says that it has been made clear among volunteers that they should do no harm to the protester. When the volunteer cutters were able to cut only three of the five marked trees, they called Larson, who said simply, "Let's just leave it at that."

Six days earlier, on the afternoon of Tuesday, April 22, individuals headed to support McCarthy's tree-sit were blocked by a sizeable show of police force on 4th Ave., between Pearl and High streets. According to observer Leeanne Siart, there were about 14 police cars, eight police motorcycles and 30 police officers to the 10 protesters cited with disorderly conduct. (Two protesters were ultimately arrested.)

Chuck Fee, who also witnessed the events from his Oregon Social Learning Center (OSLC) workplace, says, "Work ground to a halt — we felt like the SWAT team was here."

Tim Lewis of Eugene Copwatch says, "It was all very mellow, not a confrontational critical mass at all … It seemed the main goal of the police was to ID people who they are suspicious of." Lewis and Siart both witnessed police officers asking protesters for their Social Security numbers, which, says Lewis, "They aren't allowed to do." — BW

http://www2.eugeneweekly.com/2003/050103news.html

What you don't see is the 'Tom and Jerry' aspect of the game at that particular action. The cops sniff in and figure out what they think they can get away with, they knew exactly what was going on, as they had informants involved in this event. Nobody in or around this action actually feared the street theater or had any doubt that the contents of the container was water.

Above is a story of a sit I did at the SMJ house, Eugene's only museum.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-07-08   0:38:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Ferret Mike (#34)

Who owned the tree? Did you have permission to be in that tree?

I like trees. They are beautiful. I work with wood being a contractor and all. I preserve wood. I have so much scrap wood that I have saved over the years that I will likely never use it all. But I have saved it and didn't throw it away. Part of what I do is historical restoration. I think things like the redwoods should be preserved as best as possible. All the old growth trees aren't going to be to be saved. They eventually die and should be used. Trees are a renewable resource. They can be replanted and will grow again. I have used redwood many times. (i'm not saying you were sitting in a redwood i'm just using it as an example). A balance should be struck so that some trees can be harvested and replanted while others preserved so our children and grandchildren and future decedents can see those and other great trees. But there are also private property rights. Do you believe in private property?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-07-08   0:48:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine (#32)

The National Emergency Crowbar and The War On Crime


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Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-07-08   0:51:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Old Friend (#35) (Edited)

The sweet gum and other trees which were cut at the SMJ House was on public land owned by the City of Eugene, Oregon. I have yet to do a sit on privately owned land.

Well, of course except for the one in which I was only banner hanging in an incense cedar where the Eugene Nike Store was built on 24 July 1998 in which a kind security guard helped precipitate me falling.

That will be 10 years ago in a couple of weeks.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-07-08   0:53:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ferret Mike (#37)

The sweet gum and other trees which were cut at the SMJ House was on public land owned by the City of Eugene, Oregon. I have yet to do a sit on privately owned land.

Just wondered.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-07-08   0:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

HOLY SHIT! That makes me want to come out there and sit in a tree...with a rifle. Freeking bastards.

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