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Title: Obama Supporters Take His Middle Name as Their Own
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URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/u ... 4746870-UedKHACvTaDEAQzkbY+BwA
Published: Jun 29, 2008
Author: NYT
Post Date: 2008-06-29 09:53:04 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 553
Comments: 62

Emily Nordling has never met a Muslim, at least not to her knowledge. But this spring, Ms. Nordling, a 19-year-old student from Fort Thomas, Ky., gave herself a new middle name on Facebook.com, mimicking her boyfriend and shocking her father.

With her decision, she joined a growing band of supporters of Senator Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, who are expressing solidarity with him by informally adopting his middle name.

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#14. To: Old Friend (#12) (Edited)

"Dead? What are you talking about? It is up and running."

Really, sorry Charlie Brown, I see as much movement in there as with a dead possum with a bad case of maggots. The only movement in your place is minor, and stinks like rot.

It runs as well as an Olympic Games for people a hundred years or older would.

"Now answer this. Why would you vote for someone who supports murdering babies? I guess just as long as it isn't your skin it doesn't matter. The only ones in favor of abortion are those who have been born. A vote for Obama is a vote for murder. A vote to continue in Iraq. A vote to attack Iran. All of which you will have given the green light to with your sickening vote."

You are shrill and bloated with hyperbole. Bush is for a spare the stem cell but cluster bomb the Iraqi child. Don't murder the unborn, but execute as many criminals as you can to pander for votes.

I see horrible results from this 'pro-life' POTUS. More people have been maimed and killed and had their lives ruined then would have if any of a good many pro- abortion candidates of the day had gotten his office instead of him.

I don't agree with Obama's stand on abortion, but in him I see a total picture of a man who respects human life and human dignity.

I will take one Barack Obama over a hundred of either Bush presidents, or a John McCain any day of the week.

Your pitch is fueled by illogic and high emotion; no sale here.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-29   11:14:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ferret Mike (#14)

You are shrill and bloated with hyperbole. Bush is for a spare the stem cell but cluster bomb the Iraqi child. Don't murder the unborn, but execute as many criminals as you can to pander for votes.

I don't agree with Obama's stand on abortion, but in him I see a total picture of a man who respects human life and human dignity.

Hey dweeb I am not a Bush supporter. There is little difference between the two sociopathic globalists.

The total picture of Obama is a dark ugly one. It is war with Iran. No troops leave Iraq by the end of his first term. It is a kill all the babies you want to and even have the taxpayers subsidize them. A very dark ugly picutre.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-06-29   11:28:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ferret Mike (#13)

You better learn to speak Chinese and buy a yellow crayon.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-29   12:09:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Old Friend (#15)

I don't agree with Obama's stand on abortion, but in him I see a total picture of a man who respects human life and human dignity.

You can't believe a single word that a obama/mcCain supporter says, not about anything and at no particular time nor for any particular reason! ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-06-29   12:26:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Ferret Mike (#13)

Breeding mixes, and mixing is healthy.

If that BS were true, Latin American countries would be the most prosperous in the world. They're not, especially when you compare them to "unmixed" places like Finland or Japan.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-06-29   12:40:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Rotara (#17) (Edited)

You can't believe a single word that a obama/mcCain supporter says, not about anything and at no particular time nor for any particular reason!

Weren't you Obama's #1 Fan on this site until you started spelling your screen name backwards?

Why the change of heart (not that it isn't a change of heart for the better)?

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-06-29   12:41:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

If this hardy group is America's future,

Lotsa thoughts come to mind as to possibilities for completing that sentence.

Holy moley - what a bunch of hopeless hapless yutes!

scrapper2  posted on  2008-06-29   12:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Rotara (#19)

Weren't you Obama's #1 Fan on this site until you started spelling your screen name backwards?

Good catch, rupert, if true. But surely this is a coincidence, Rotara, yes?

scrapper2  posted on  2008-06-29   12:45:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#19)

Weren't you Obama's #1 Fan on this site until you started spelling your screen name backwards?

Haaaaaahahahaha!

NO

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-06-29   12:45:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: scrapper2 (#21)

Good catch, rupert, if true. But surely this is a coincidence, Rotara, yes?

I don't know about coincidence, but I do know rupert didn't catch anything. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-06-29   12:46:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: scrapper2 (#20)

Holy moley - what a bunch of hopeless hapless yutes!

Hapless is an ideal word. The four guys? At 58 y/o I'm totally confident I could still kick the crap out of all of them, together. The girl? needs Atkins badly and immediately. These five are hapless, useless and totally PC'd at our expense. The need an America First reeducation camp.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-29   12:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

With her decision, she joined a growing band of supporters of Senator Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, who are expressing solidarity with him by informally adopting his middle name.

As far as I know even the most commited of FReekers never named themselves or their kids after their clay footed idol. This maddness is starting to reach Chairman Mao levels of personality cults.

I'm getting to the point now where I think this nation is lost and the only thing left to do is laugh like a lunatic as the whole things comes crumbling down. The Obama cult falling apart alone will reach pay-per-view levels of entertainment.

When that happens I'll re-bottle lighter fluid and label it as 'POJ's Obama 08 Bumper sticker removal solution - You can't wash away the shame, but you can wash away the evidence.' I'll make millions.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.

"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-06-29   13:18:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#25)

The largest Kool Aid overdose in modern history.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-06-29   13:22:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Old Friend (#15)

"Hey dweeb I am not a Bush supporter. There is little difference between the two sociopathic globalists."

No you are not a Bush supporter, but damn if you are not as stupid and needlessly vindictive a dick head as I have ever seen in any political forum. I mean, if stupidity was painful, you would be rolling around screaming out of that wart on your shoulders pretty damn loud.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-29   13:23:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#25)

I'm getting to the point now where I think this nation is lost and the only thing left to do is laugh like a lunatic as the whole things comes crumbling down. The Obama cult falling apart alone will reach pay-per-view levels of entertainment.

It is lost, just look at the drones in the picture. They are fully inculcated w/both multiculturalism and political correctness. The only thing dopier than these college cultists are adults, who at one point in time knew better. All I can do is repeat the words of Geraldine Ferraro; if Obama weren't black, he wouldn't be where he is. See white guilt for more details.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-29   13:28:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#18)

"If that BS were true..."

Why it is true. Ask any genetics savvy person why hybrids are so vigorous.

I was married to a woman of African heritage and our son and grand kids are smart and very healthy flourishing. And this next century's end will see many more people of mixed racial heritage and a people past the tipping point of caring about the irrational viewpoint you express here about the fact that there will be,

Race is a minor aspect about a person. I don't give a rip about color or other trappings of race, I care about what kind of person they are overall.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-29   13:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#25)

When that happens I'll re-bottle lighter fluid and label it as 'POJ's Obama 08 Bumper sticker removal solution - You can't wash away the shame, but you can wash away the evidence.' I'll make millions.

i'll take the Austin market. ;) lots of obama stickers and signs here and i've yet to see one mcCain.

christine  posted on  2008-06-29   13:30:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#16)

"You better learn to speak Chinese and buy a yellow crayon."

I know French, and am learning Spanish. Chinese just doesn't interest me.

Though I would sure like to know some anti whaling insults in Japanese. If you know a few, I'm all ears.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-29   13:33:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ferret Mike (#31)

Though I would sure like to know some anti whaling insults in Japanese. If you know a few, I'm all ears.

Mac ahoy ding-ding

(yellow sailor suck my.....)

It worked like a charm at the Chinese laundry on Flatbush Ave in 1958.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-29   13:38:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull (#32) (Edited)

You know, it is awful hard to say you would do better then another man in a given situation; but I do know one thing.

In 1980 when activists discovered Japanese fishermen on Iki Island butchering bottle nosed dolphins for having the audacity to eat fish like they had been doing for centuries, one angrily bullied one of them to take a machete and whack at a dying cetacean in order to save his hide from the wrath of these angry, self righteous and greedily blood thirty swine.

He complied, and saved his ass.

I would of made the guy handing me the machete shorter with his body starting at the knee joints instead of his smelly feet. I have no doubt about that at all.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-29   13:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Ferret Mike (#33)

I think I'll hold back on my Flipper joke for another time :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-29   13:51:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Ferret Mike (#33)

In 1980 when activists discovered Japanese fishermen on Iki Island butchering bottle nosed dolphins for having the audacity to eat fish like they had been doing for centuries

Dolphins suffer at the hands of Japanese fisherman, it is true. But I also hold Canadian East Coast commercial "hunters" in great contempt for their annual slaughter of 300,000 baby seals. And the Canadian gubment does ZERO to stop this monumental travesty in inhumanity.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-06-29   14:08:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: scrapper2 (#35)

I fully agree. We had someone shoot Sea Lions that had been snared in a live trap near a fish ladder where they had been feeding to move them.

This was some kind of a "real man" to use a high powered rifle to break Federal law regarding this endangered species.

Not to mention, a species of seal was just recently declared extinct:

LINK: It's official: Caribbean monk seal is extinct


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-29   14:16:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ferret Mike (#29)

I see that you carefully avoided the question of why mixed race countries like those in most of Latin America are shitholes while racially pure countries like Finland and Japan are the wealthiest and most technologically advanced. If racial mixing worked the wonders that you say that it does, you'd think it would be the other way around.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-06-29   14:48:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ferret Mike (#33) (Edited)

In 1980 when activists discovered Japanese fishermen on Iki Island butchering bottle nosed dolphins for having the audacity to eat fish like they had been doing for centuries, one angrily bullied one of them to take a machete and whack at a dying cetacean in order to save his hide from the wrath of these angry, self righteous and greedily blood thirty swine.

It's always seemed to me that there's nothing more self-righteous than an animal rights activist. They think they're so damned morally superior to the rest of us because they don't kill animals and don't eat meat.

Human beings are the most highly evolved creatures on earth, and that gives us every right to kill lower life forms for food, or because they stand in our way. I support conservation from the standpoint of sustaining our natural resources (I'm all for preventing overfishing or clear-cutting so that there will be fish and timber for the next generation), but not because other animals have any "rights."

Being at the top of the evolutionary ladder ought to give us some perks.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-06-29   14:57:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#38) (Edited)

Tursiops truncatus (also T. aduncus), which is the bottle nosed dolphin has a larger brain with more cortical surface area then we have. The brain is tucked and folded because the outer part of the neocortex us the thinking part of this newest part of the brain evolutionarily speaking.

They remember 12 to 14 nonsense syllables to the human 6 to 3, can gage each other's emotion using radar to check out physiological factors that change with emotional states, which is different then us as we use facial recognition to do this.

Sorry bud, they are as intelligent or more intelligent then us little old opposing thumb primates. We have hands and our younger species has been effective thriving and grabbing as much of the planet they can, but we have no call to kill FELLOW animals this smart and this evolved.

You are full of shit.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-29   16:22:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#38)

These people have so badly polluted half their continental shelf, many dolphin pods live and compete with fishermen crowded into what is still habitable for cetacean and fish. They herded these dolphins into Iki Island harbor and waded into them hacking and clubbing. The dolphins - with 188 sharp, conical teeth - never attacked their attackers. Ethical reasons? Hard to say, we don't have a language interface with them yet. And they do have one.

These Japanese fishermen ground up their fish competitors for dog food. They still murder dolphins, and this will stop.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-29   16:37:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Ferret Mike (#39) (Edited)

You're right. Dolphins must be as smart or smarter than we are. All of this time, I've been missing out on all of those dolphin cities, dolphin spacecraft, and dolphin computers. Silly me.

As far as I can see, Japanese making dolphin burgers are no different from me cooking pork chops for dinner tonight. They say pigs are pretty smart too.

So you can take your holier than thou animal rights crap to someone who gives a damn. I'm not stopping you from eating your tofu (what's it to me how you live your life), so who are you to tell some guy in Japan (or me) what he can or can't eat? You started out by calling the Japanese fishers self-righteous, well, my definition of self-righteous is someone who tells other people what to do or how to live.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-06-29   16:37:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Ferret Mike (#40) (Edited)

murder dolphins,

"Murder" dolphins? Do dolphins "murder" mackerel? What dictionary definition of murder are you using, other than PETA's?

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-06-29   16:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#41)

I go bow hunting most every year bubba, and I eat meat. I have studied cetaceans and agree with Dr. John C. Lilly's cutting edge work on their intelligence.

If the Chinese had jealously guarded their invention of gunpowder and been ruthlessly imperialistic, one could then postulate that Han Chinese are inherently superior to all other races as they rule so much of the Earth. Yours' is a false premise.

You are correct, they do not have hands, but they have been documented using tools and the physics of water in an incredibly intuitive way.

That you are so specio-centric you cannot see farther off the end of your nose then a flat Earther once did is no concern of mine. That is your problem.

Lilly's website is still up and running, and I recommend any of several books and research papers by him for a truly enlightened idea about why dolphins are peers, not prey.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-29   16:46:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#42)

""Murder" dolphins? Do dolphins "murder" mackerel? What dictionary definition of murder are you using, other than PETA's?"

Obviously I cannot not view the deliberate destruction of intelligent mammals as smart or smarter the man as anything less then cold blooded murder of beings with the warmest blood in the sea.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-06-29   16:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#41)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-29   16:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Obama will never be President.

It is impossible to decutify me.

Turtle  posted on  2008-06-29   16:52:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Turtle (#46)

I terribly underestimated the huge amounts of money "available" to Obama and the large number of white guilters that despise their own race.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-29   16:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Turtle (#46)

Don't go there Turtle. Some scum lawyers got all huffy with me the last time I suggested he was the next JFK.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-29   16:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Jethro Tull (#48)

Scum "shysters". There are a few honest lawyers, the rest are bottom feeders on the human chain.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-29   16:56:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Cynicom (#49)

I know many fine lawyers. I hire fine lawyers when needed. These aren't fine lawyers. They're scum.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-06-29   16:58:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Jethro Tull (#50)

Since some of our shysters "departed", the 4um janitor reports much less cleaning to do at nite.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-06-29   17:00:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Ferret Mike (#43) (Edited)

I go bow hunting most every year bubba, and I eat meat

In that case, I apologize for making that unwarranted assumption. I was under the false impression that you were a PETA type who wanted to enforce vegetarianism on the rest of us.

You are correct, they do not have hands, but they have been documented using tools and the physics of water in an incredibly intuitive way.

Ravens, finches, and vultures use tools too. That doesn't make them the mental equals of humans. I once read an article about how even sharks could figure out that when they swim up to grab seagulls from the surface of the water, the force of the water pushes the bird away, and so adjust their aim to compensate after a few trial and error misses. Does that make sharks our "peers" too?

If the Chinese had jealously guarded their invention of gunpowder and been ruthlessly imperialistic, one could then postulate that Han Chinese are inherently superior to all other races as they rule so much of the Earth. Yours' is a false premise.

The Chinese invented gunpowder, sure. But it was Europeans who saw that it had real practical applications. Besides, I have no problem with the notion that northern Asians are as smart or smarter in certain ways than Europeans. IQ studies seem to support this (so much for IQ tests being "Eurocentric" if Japanese, Chinese, and Koreans do as well or better than we do), and their kids seem to do a hell of a lot better in school than ours do.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-06-29   17:03:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Cynicom (#47)

I terribly underestimated the huge amounts of money "available" to Obama and the large number of white guilters that despise their own race.

I betcha they can pour all the money they want over him and he'll still never be President.

It is impossible to decutify me.

Turtle  posted on  2008-06-29   17:03:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Turtle (#53)

I betcha they can pour all the money they want over him and he'll still never be President.

That would be good news, except for the fact that the alternative isn't any better.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-06-29   17:06:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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