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Title: FBI Chief Criticizes Supreme Court's Gun Ruling
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.nysun.com/national/fbi-c ... preme-courts-gun-ruling/80965/
Published: Jul 1, 2008
Author: AP
Post Date: 2008-07-01 13:12:36 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 254
Comments: 18

FBI Chief Criticizes Supreme Court's Gun Ruling

By Associated Press

June 30, 2008

HARTFORD, Conn. — Last week's landmark U.S. Supreme Court ruling that upheld a constitutional right to own guns for self-defense and hunting may harm efforts to deter violent crime in communities and college campuses, the FBI Director, Robert Mueller, said today.

Speaking at a convention of the International Association of Campus Law Enforcement Administrators at Hartford, Mr. Mueller criticized the ruling, which he said "does throw a lot of things up in the air."

Last year, a gunman killed 32 people at Virginia Tech in the nation's worst mass shooting in modern history, prompting some states to consider new laws to tighten campus security. Earlier this year, a gunman killed five people at Northern Illinois University.

By a 5-4 vote last week, the nation's highest court struck down the District of Columbia's 32-year-old ban on handguns, the first major pronouncement on gun rights in history. It upheld the right for communities to license guns.

Mr. Mueller said communities will have to determine their own license programs. As a former Marine who served in Vietnam, he said "I tend to believe weapons harm people and more often than not they harm the people carrying them."

With his grandchildren going to college, Mr. Mueller said he hopes "those campuses will be weapons free."

Mr. Mueller said the FBI's top priority remains counterterrorism, counter-intelligence, and protecting the secrets of America.

He said college campuses and small communities could be "potential incubators of terrorism" even while major cities such as New York and Los Angeles remain primary targets for terrorists.

"The fact is we can't rule out any community in the United States as a potential incubator of terrorism," Mr. Mueller said.


Poster Comment:

Mr. Mueller....your FBI has become a "potential incubator of terrorism."

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

As a former Marine

Why are former Marines the worst pieces of shit to live in America??? From Robert Mueller to John Glenn to Murtha, they seem to be a pestilence upon America. Maybe we should ban former Marines to live on Guam 'til they die.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-07-01   13:18:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

"The fact is we can't rule out any community in the United States as a potential incubator of terrorism," Mr. Mueller said.

Except Government, of course. That would be pure kookery. Now keep checking under the bed to make sure Al-CIA-duh terrorists won't slit your throat in your sleep.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.

"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-07-01   13:19:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Mr. Mueller said the FBI's top priority remains counterterrorism, counter-intelligence, and protecting the secrets of America.

And doing a damn poor job at all of them.

I would not trust any FBI person, never ever. There may be some honest ones but as a whole, they need to be disbanded and start over again.

Mueller and his friends never mention that a Russian spy sat in FBI HQ for fifteen long years and they knew nothing. Fifteen long years rubbing elbows with the very top people.

So much for Mueller and the FBI credibility at doing anything.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-07-01   13:21:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pissed Off Janitor, X-15. Cynicom, all (#2)

Have any of you seen one politician celebrate the decision? Why are they quick to condemn us for questioning rulings and law, but they themselves despise it? Never mind, silly question. Lets go w/X-15s solution and ban all Marines to some isolated atoll until they prove they can live in a civilized society.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-07-01   13:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Last year, a gunman killed 32 people at Virginia Tech in the nation's worst mass shooting in modern history, prompting some states to consider new laws to tighten campus security. Earlier this year, a gunman killed five people at Northern Illinois University.

mueller is a phucking waste of carbon. What a POS.

I wonder how many lives could have been spared at VA Tech had only ONE student in each class on that campus been responsible enough to pack some heat in their bags.

mueller needs to arrest the thugs that brought us the "Global War on Terror". After all, he knows them very well.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-01   13:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Mr. Mueller....your FBI has become a "potential incubator of terrorism."

You seem to have a serious attitude problem Citizen Tull.

Get out your 3M* kneepads and do some head-bobbing pennance or face the consequences.

* Magnificent Majik Messiah

Esso  posted on  2008-07-01   13:40:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Rotara (#5)

I wonder how many lives could have been spared at VA Tech had only ONE student in each class on that campus been responsible enough to pack some heat in their bags.

The kids here at Penn St are pussies, at least the ones I interact w/on the football board. I suggested this, and they cringed in fear. F**k em. My kids are out of college; god help those who have yet to put theirs thru these PC Ivy towers

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-07-01   14:06:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Esso (#6)

Must I engage myself, or is it OK if I simply applaud those who 'do' the Saviour?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-07-01   14:08:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#7)

Anyone that voluntarily gives up their ability to defend themselves is not only a pu**y but a dead man walking. IMO ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-01   14:18:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

"I tend to believe weapons harm people and more often than not they harm the people carrying them."

Totally true. I mean go to any shooting range in Texas or any city street where people can carry concealed or unconcealed weapons and you can see dead bodies everywhere from people carrying and shooting themselves. Just horrible.

echo5sierra  posted on  2008-07-01   14:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: echo5sierra (#10)

I wonder how many people fend off a car jacking, attempted sexual assault, mugging, burglary, etc. but never report it. For one reason or another. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-01   15:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Rotara (#11)

I wonder how many people fend off a car jacking, attempted sexual assault, mugging, burglary, etc. but never report it. For one reason or another. ;-)

About two million times per year, according to the Lott Study.

Of course law enforcement stats won't reflect the socially redeeming value of firearms in the hands of law abiding folks.

Citizens shoot ten times the number of felons as the police, but with each lawful use of deadly force we're treated to a news story that says "The grand jury won't indict" and make it appear that the citizen just barely missed being indicted for some unspecified crime. The message from the media is, "self defense is legal but we wish it weren't so."

"I can feel it coming in the air tonight, oh lord

Ive been waiting for this moment, all my life, oh lord

Can you feel it coming in the air tonight, oh lord, oh lord"

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-07-01   15:41:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: X-15 (#1)

Why are former Marines the worst pieces of shit to live in America??? From Robert Mueller to John Glenn to Murtha, they seem to be a pestilence upon America. Maybe we should ban former Marines to live on Guam 'til they die.

Eat shit and die. We are not all like that X-15...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-07-01   15:55:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

As a former Marine who served in Vietnam, he said "I tend to believe weapons harm people and more often than not they harm the people carrying them."

Then for safety reasons, Mueller should order all of his agents to turn in their weapons.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-07-01   15:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

After the FBI got their asses trimmed at Wounded Knee and their clocks cleaned in Miami, they have good reason to fear armed and determined people on a mission.

"I can feel it coming in the air tonight, oh lord

Ive been waiting for this moment, all my life, oh lord

Can you feel it coming in the air tonight, oh lord, oh lord"

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-07-01   16:17:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: FormerLurker (#14)

Then for safety reasons, Mueller should order all of his agents to turn in their weapons.

Ah, the very obvious was overlooked.....well done. I'll forward this to Bob M ASAP!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-07-01   17:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: FormerLurker (#14)

As a former Marine who served in Vietnam, he said "I tend to believe weapons harm people and more often than not they harm the people carrying them."

Then for safety reasons, Mueller should order all of his agents to turn in their weapons.

Why stop there? Let's order the whole US military to disarm and trade their rifles in for wiffle bats. I bet US losses in Iraq would go down to zero after that.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.

"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-07-01   17:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: FormerLurker (#13)

Eat shit and die. We are not all like that X-15...

Then what the hell is wrong with all the Marines who hold office?? Every last one is completely oblivious to the Constitution that they swore an oath to, not once, but TWICE.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-07-01   21:06:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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