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Title: US elections: Obama clarifies remarks on Iraq withdrawal timeline
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/200 ... 3/barackobama.uselections20081
Published: Jul 3, 2008
Author: Daniel Nasaw in Washington
Post Date: 2008-07-03 18:23:13 by angle
Keywords: None
Views: 321
Comments: 28

He had said he plans to have most US combat troops home by the end of his first term.

Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama today said he would "refine" his position on withdrawal from Iraq after meeting with military commanders there this summer, then later insisted he had not softened his commitment to remove US combat forces with 16 months of taking office.

Speaking with reporters at an airport in Fargo, North Dakota, the Illinois senator appeared open to altering his campaign pledge to have US combat troops home from Iraq within 16 months of taking office.

"I am going to do a thorough assessment when I'm there,'' he said. "I'm sure I'll have more information and continue to refine my policy."

The Republican party leapt at the comments and accused Obama of reversing himself, and at a press conference later, Obama sought to clarify his remarks.

"Let me be as clear as I can be: I tend to end this war," he said. "I have seen no information that contradicts the notion that we can bring out troops out safely at a pace of one to two brigades per month," with all out within 16 months. "This is the same position that I had four months ago."

Obama founded his campaign on a strident anti-war message, which dates back to a speech he gave in Chicago in 2002, while still a state senator.

Republican nominee John McCain was an early supporter of the troop surge in Iraq and has backed the war from the beginning.

He said he will keep US forces there to maintain the security gains the surge has facilitated. He has said he plans to have most US combat troops home by the end of his first term.

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#2. To: angle (#0)

Obama clarifies remarks

I can clarify it for you -- he's a lying politician.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-07-03   18:24:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: MUDDOG (#2) (Edited)

he's a lying politician

oxymoron or redundancy?

angle  posted on  2008-07-03   18:27:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: angle (#4)

I wonder if the scales will fall from the eyes of his disciples.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-07-03   18:31:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: MUDDOG (#5)

I wonder if the scales will fall from the eyes of his disciples.

Very difficult to say. It's a big test, imo.

angle  posted on  2008-07-03   18:34:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: angle (#7) (Edited)

Obama is starting to look like the worst betrayal yet.

We've had over a generation of betrayal after betrayal, lie after lie and I thought that a significant segment of the elites of this country had finally realized that they needed to retrench to regain some legitimacy or risk a system-wide collapse. I had hoped that an Obama administration was the means that they had chosen to that end. If Obama goes back on his war promise, I was wrong. It's "fuck you" and "let us steal more of your stuff" for at least another eight years as the country spirals further down the the toilet bowl into the sewer.

If Obama proves to be just one more lying pol in a long succession of lying pols, there will be no retrenchment, no attempt to appease an outraged populous to regain some legitimacy for a failing system. Instead, the elites of this country will have proven for one last time that they are certifiably insane, nihilistic and totally criminal. Should this be once again confirmed by in- your-face betrayals of the coming Obama administration, we will be left with a no-win choice - risk even worse bedlam via the attempted and probably violent overthrow of an irredeemably corrupt and criminal regime or abandon our country to its inevitable destruction in favor of some alien third world backwater/"refuge". Only, every third world backwater/"refuge" is also being systematically plundered by our criminal government, making them no refuge at all. Come to think of it, there is nowhere to run, so we will have no choice. If our elites prove themselves unwilling to change course even now, as the country teeters on the edge of an abyss, we will have no other option but to take our future into our own hands and overthrow them (with violence, if necessary) or die trying.

Arator  posted on  2008-07-03   20:24:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Arator (#9) (Edited)

Obama is starting to look like the worst betrayal yet.

We've had over a generation of betrayal after betrayal, lie after lie and I thought that a significant segment of the elites of this country had finally realized that they needed to retrench to regain some legimitimacy or risk a system-wide collapse. I had hoped that an Obama administration was the means that they had chosen to that end. If Obama goes back on his war promise, I was wrong. It's "fuck you" and "let us steal more of your stuff" for at least another eight years as the country spirals further down the the toilet bowl into the sewer.

If Obama proves to be just one more lying pol in a long succession of lying pols, there will be no retrenchment, no attempt to appease an outraged populous to regain some legitimacy for a failing system. Instead, the elites of this country will have proven for one last time that they are certifiably insane, nihilistic and totally criminal. Should this be once again confirmed by in- your-face betrayals of the coming Obama administration, we will be left with a no-win choice - risk even worse bedlam via the attempted and probably violent overthrow of an irredeemably corrupt and criminal regime or abandon our country to its inevitable destruction in favor of some alien third world backwater/"refuge". Only, every third world backwater/"refuge" is also being systematically plundered by our criminal government, making them no refuge at all. Come to think of it, there is nowhere to run, so we will have no choice. If our elites prove themselves unwilling to change course even now, as the country teeters on the edge of an abyss, we will have no other option but to take our future into our own hands and overthrow them (with violence, if necessary) or die trying.

You just need to get re-focused.

They have planned tediously for a completion of the NAU by 2010.

The mcCain/obama/CFR/Rockefeller/Bilderberg Society are the architects.

They know that our currency must be completely collapsed (our society collapsed) to come out with their new super state / regional currency.

Welcome to the North American Soviet Union / World Order.

Would you like to help us derail it and stall the establishment's plans for us? ;-)

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-03   20:40:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Rotara (#10)

Would you like to help us derail it and stall the establishment's plans for us? ;-)

By "following your heart"? Spare me the diatribe and dish out the goods. My patience is thin on blowhards these days.

angle  posted on  2008-07-03   21:00:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: angle (#12)

Spare me the diatribe and dish out the goods.

Derail and stall? You don't know what that means?

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-03   21:41:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#20. To: Rotara (#16) (Edited)

Derail and stall? You don't know what that means?

What exactly do you mean by it? Last question on this matter.

angle  posted on  2008-07-03 23:13:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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