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Title: Western society's war within
Source: The Australian
URL Source: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.a ... /0,25197,23984418-7583,00.html
Published: Jul 8, 2008
Author: Brett Mason
Post Date: 2008-07-09 00:46:14 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 265
Comments: 8

Font Size: Decrease Increase Print Page: Print Brett Mason | July 08, 2008 IT may begin with a chuckle, but it could easily end in tears. At least, if we are not careful. One may be tempted to scoff at the demand to legalise polygamy made recently by Khalil Chami of Sydney's Islamic Welfare Centre. But with the recent announcement by Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams that the adoption of sharia law in Britain seems unavoidable, the joke may turn out to be on us.

Britain provides an instructive lesson on the interaction between increasingly radicalised sections of the Muslim diaspora community and its Western host society.

From Dundee to Dover, traditional British values, already weakened to the point of collapse by a decades-long elite infatuation with mushy multiculturalism and cultural relativism, cannot provide resistance against the growing tide of extreme demands by radical self-styled community spokesmen.

The same way that the claim of racism has been used to shut down any debate on cultural identity, immigration and social cohesion, so is Islamophobia increasingly used to silence dissent. To merely raise certain issues is to give offence, and offending sensibilities is a hanging offence in our postmodern times.

While radicals agitate, a politically correct establishment, at pains to prove how enlightened and tolerant it is, even if it means tolerating the intolerance of others, usually stands on the sidelines, if not actively cheering on another challenge to the ostensibly oppressive, hegemonic Western culture and polity.

In January last year, Britain's Channel 4 television broadcast a documentary on jihadi incitement in mosques throughout England. The material revealed by this undercover investigative report was quite incendiary in nature. One Saudi-trained imam called for British Muslims to "dismantle democracy" by "living as a state within a state" until they are "strong enough to take it over".

Another Islamic radical praised the Taliban for killing British soldiers and argued that women who declined to wear the burka should be beaten into submission.

After the program was aired, British authorities wasted no time springing into action. The West Midlands Police lodged criminal charges, not against the extremist imams but against the TV network. Responding to a complaint by the Muslim Association of Britain, the police accused Channel 4 of inciting racial hatred by means of an ostensibly distorted documentary that demonised Islam. When the Crown Prosecution Service ultimately declined to pursue the matter, police referred the complaint to the British government broadcast oversight agency, OFCOM.

Earlier this year, an officer from the Wiltshire Police ordered a motorist to remove England's flag of St George from his automobile because it was "racist towards immigrants".

Stand-up comedian Ben Elton recently asserted that fear of "provoking the radical elements of Islam" caused the BBC to censor jokes about Muslim clerics. "There's no doubt about it," Elton said, "the BBC will let vicar gags pass but they would not let imam gags pass."

This comes on the heels of a legion of other examples of often pre-emptive surrenders to yet unvoiced radical demands, such as some British banks withdrawing toy piggy banks or public institutions turning Christmas into an amorphous Winter Festival, all for the fear of offending Muslim sensibilities.

All this is rather ironic, since under the twin dogmas of multiculturalism and cultural relativism, all cultures and beliefs are meant to be equal. Like George Orwell's animals, however, some seem to be more equal than others. Commitment to cultural diversity all too often seems to disguise contempt for the dominant national culture that historically bound the society.

No wonder such large sections of the British establishment don't offer any resistance to the claims of fundamentalist radicals.

The case against Channel 4 was ultimately dismissed and the broadcaster won a pound stg. 100,000 ($206,000) civil judgment against the West Midlands Police. But even if sanity prevailed after much time and expense, the totalitarian echoes of this affair clearly have a chilling effect on freedom of expression. While a TV network has the requisite resources to wage a vigorous legal defence, less well-heeled victims of the thought police would be in real strife.

All this is worrying to the silent majority of Muslims who are not interested in political agitation but simply want to rear their families in peace, freedom and prosperity, so often lacking in countries where they or their ancestors have come from. It's hard to blame the moderates within the Muslim community for not speaking out more against the extremists when they see the establishment and the authorities so often and so easily buckling to radicals.

In Australia, federal Attorney-General Robert McClelland summarily dismissed Chami's demand for the legalisation of polygamy. But lest we feel too comfortable, it should be noted that the example of Britain demonstrates how quickly a national sense of cultural self-confidence can erode. Britain serves as a cautionary tale about the dangers of unrestrained political correctness and cultural relativism.

After all, if Westminster democracy and Wahhabi theocracy are ethically equal, there is no reason to resist when freedom comes under assault from feudalism.

The essential question we face is not about the rule of law but about which law is to rule. Events in Britain teach us that Chami's proposal represents the thin end of the wedge in the creeping campaign to introduce Islamic jurisprudence into our legal system.

A nation with two legal systems, reflecting conflicting social and political philosophies, is a house divided and, as history shows, it cannot stand.

We must be culturally self-confident enough to assert that the monopoly status of common law and democracy in Australia is entirely non-negotiable. As Peter Costello said not so long ago: "If a person wants to live under sharia law, there are countries where they may feel at ease, but not Australia."

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#1. To: X-15 (#0)

Earlier this year, an officer from the Wiltshire Police ordered a motorist to remove England's flag of St George from his automobile because it was "racist towards immigrants".

And no talking about the white cliffs of Dover.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-07-09   0:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: MUDDOG (#1)

And no talking about the white cliffs of Dover.

English school children could "volunteer" to apply copious amounts of organic, non-toxic food coloring to turn them into the "Rainbow Cliffs of Freedom!!TM"

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-07-09   1:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: X-15 (#0)

Commitment to cultural diversity all too often seems to disguise contempt for the dominant national culture that historically bound the society.

True.

Cultural relativism is actually correct though, IMO, however much it may have been abused by largely Jewish anthropologists in the service of Jewish ( and other white competitive altruist) interests.

Strictly speaking, cultural relativism does not hold that one's particular ethnocentric preferences and judgements are false or ought to be discarded, it simply rejects claims of universality.

The topic of racial variation is admittedly disturbing, and in an ideal world might be passed over in silence, but accusations against whites have made such discretion impossible. The right of the accused to present his case includes the right to raise issues that distress his accuser. A plaintiff demanding damages for a broken leg cannot ask at the same time that his leg not be talked about, nor take offense when the defendant presents evidence that the injury was congenital. By claiming harm he opens up the question of why his leg is game. Claiming racial harm has opened the topic of racial differences.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-07-09   1:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: X-15 (#0)

Britain serves as a cautionary tale about the dangers of unrestrained political correctness and cultural relativism.

After all, if Westminster democracy and Wahhabi theocracy are ethically equal, there is no reason to resist when freedom comes under assault from feudalism.

The essential question we face is not about the rule of law but about which law is to rule. Events in Britain teach us that Chami's proposal represents the thin end of the wedge in the creeping campaign to introduce Islamic jurisprudence into our legal system.

A nation with two legal systems, reflecting conflicting social and political philosophies, is a house divided and, as history shows, it cannot stand.

Saudis, Wahabis, polygamy, Sharia.....can you say "Jewish"?

BY DECEPTION THOU SHALT DO WAR.

"THE SAUDI DYNASTY: FROM WHERE IS IT? AND WHO IS THE REAL ANCESTOR OF THIS FAMILY?

RESEARCH AND PRESENTATION OF: MOHAMMAD SAKHER , who was ordered killed by the Saudi Regime for the following findings:

1. Are the Saudi Family members belonging to the Tribe of ANZA BEN WA'EL as they allege to be?
2. Is Islam their actual religion?
3. Are they of an ARAB ORIGIN at all?

In the year 851 A.H. a group of men from AL MASALEEKH CLAN, which was a branch of ANZA Tribe, formed a caravan for buying cereals (wheat and corn) and other food stuff from IRAQ, and transporting it back to NAJD. The head of that group was a man called SAHMI BIN HATHLOOL. The caravan reached BASRA, where the members of the group went to a cereal merchant who was a Jew, Called MORDAKHAI BIN IBRAHIM BIN MOSHE'. During their bargaining with that merchant, the Jew asked them : "Where are you from?" They answered: "From ANZA TRIBE; a clan of AL MASALEEKH." Upon hearing that name, the Jew started to hug so affectionately each one of them saying that he, himself, was also from the clan of AL MASALEEKH, but he had come to reside in BASRA (IRAQ) in consequence to a family feud between his father and some members of ANZA Tribe.

After he recounted to them his fabricated narrative, he ordered his servants to load all the camels of the clan's members with wheat, dates and tamman; a remarkable deed so generous that astonished the MASALEEKH men and aroused their pride to find such an affectionate (cousin) in IRAQ- the source of their sustenance; they believed each word he said , and , because he was a rich merchant of the food commodities which they were badly in need, they liked him (even though he was a Jew concealed under the garb of an Arab from AL MASALEEKH clan).

When the caravan was ready to depart returning to NAJD, that Jewish Merchant asked them to accept his company, because he intended to go with them to his original homeland, NAJD. Upon hearing that from him, they wholeheartedly welcomed him with a very cheerful attitude.

So that (concealed) Jew reached NAJD with the caravan. In NAJD, he started to promulgate a lot of propaganda for himself through his companions (his alleged cousins), a fact, which gathered around him a considerable number of new supporters; but, unexpectedly, he confronted a campaign of opposition to his views led by SHEIKH SALEH SALMAN ABDULLA AL TAMIMI, who was a Muslem religious preacher in AL-QASEEM. The radius of his preaching area included Najd, Yemen, and Hijaz, a fact which compelled the Jew (the Ancestor of the present SAUDI FAMILY to depart from AL QASEEM to AL IHSA, where he changed his name (MORDAKHAI) To MARKHAN BIN IBRAHIM MUSA. Then he changed the location of his residence and settled at a place called DIR'IYA near AL-QATEEF, where he started to spread among the inhabitants a fabricated story about the shield of our Prophet MOHAMMAD (p.b.u.h), that it was taken as a booty by an Arab Pagan in consequence of OHOD Battle between the Arab pagans and the Muslems. "That shield, he said, was sold by the Arab Pagan to a Jewish Clan called BANU QUNAIQA' who preserved it as a treasure! He gradually enhanced his position among the Bedouins through such stories which indicated how the Jewish clans in Arabia were so influential and deserved high esteem. He gained some personal importance among the Bedouins, and decided to settle permanently there, at DIR'IYA town, near AL QATEEF, which he decided to be his (Capital) on the Persian Gulf. He aspired to make it his spring board for establishing a Jewish Kingdom in Arabia.

In order to fulfill his ambitious scheme, he started to approach the desert Arab Bedouins for support of his position, them gradually, he declared himself as their king!

At that juncture, AJAMAN Tribe together with BANU KHALED Tribe became fully aware of that Jewish cunning plan after they had verified his true identity, and decided to put an end to him. They attacked his town and conquered it, but before arresting him he had escaped by the skin of his teeth.

That Jewish Ancestor of the SAUDI FAMILY, (MORDAKHAI), sought shelter in a farm called at that time AL-MALIBEED-GHUSAIBA near AL-ARID, which is called at our present time : AL-RIYADH.

He requested the owner of that farm to grant him an asylum. The farmer was so hospitable that he immediately gave him sanctuary. But that Jew (MORDAKHAI), no longer than a month had he stayed there, when he assassinated the land lord and all members of his family, pretending that all were killed by an invading band of thieves. Then he pretended that he had bought that real estate from them before that catastrophe happened to them! Accordingly, he had the right to reside there as a land lord. He then gave a new name to that place: He named it AL-DIRIYA - the same name as that he had lost.

That Jewish Ancestor of the SAUDI FAMILY (MORDAKHAI), was quick to establish a "GUEST HOUSE" called "MADAFFA" on the land he usurped from his victims, and gathered around him a group of hypocrites who started to spread out false propaganda for him that he was a prominent Arab Sheikh. He plotted against Sheikh SALEH SALMAN ABDULLA AL TAMIMI, his original enemy, and caused his assassination in the mosque of the town called (AL-ZALAFI).

After that, he felt satisfied and safe to make (AL-DIRIYA) his permanent home. There he practiced polygamy at a wide scale, and indeed, he begot a lot of children whom he gave pure Arab names.

Eversince his descendants grew up in number and power under the name of SAUDI CLAN, they have followed his steps in practicing under ground activities and conspiracies against the Arab Nation. They illegally seized rural sectors and farm lands, and assassinated every person who tried to oppose their evil plans. They used all kinds of deceit for reaching their goals: they bought the conscience of their dissidents; they offered their women and money to influential people in that area, particularly to those who started to write the true biography of that Jewish Family; they bribed writers of history in order to purify their ignominious history, and make their lineage related to the most prominent Arab Tribes such as RABI'A, ANZA and ALMASALEEKH.

A conspicuous hypocrite in our era whose name is MOHAMMAD AMIN AL TAMIMI- Director/Manager of the contemporary Libraries of the SAUDI KINGDOM, made up a genealogical tree (FAMILY TREE) for this JEWISH FAMILY (THE SAUDIS), connecting them to our Great Prophet, MOHAMMAD (P.B.U.H) For his false work, he received a reward of 35 (THIRTY FIVE) THOUSAND EYPTIAN POUNDS from the then SAUDI AMBASSADOR TO CAIRO, EGYPT, in the year 1362 AH.- 1943 A.D. The name of that Ambassador is : IBRAHIM AL-FADEL.

As aforementioned, the Jewish Ancestor of the SAUDI FAMILY, (MORDAKHAI), practiced polygamy by marrying a lot of Arab women and begot many children; his polygamous practice is, at the present time, being carried out " to the letter" by his descendants; they cling to his marital heritage!

One of MORDAKHAI'S sons called AL-MAQARAN, arabized from the Jewish root (MACK-REN) begot a son called Mohammad, then another son called SAUD, which is the name of the present day SAUDI DYNASTY.

Descendants of SAUD (the present day SAUDI FAMILY )started a campaign of assassination of the prominent leaders of the Arab Tribes under the pretence that those leaders were apostates; renegading from the Islamic Religion, and deserting their Koranic doctrines; so they deserved the SAUDI condemnation and slaughter!

In the History Book of the SAUDI FAMILY pages (98-101), their private family historian declares that the SAUDI DYNASTY considers all the people of NAJD blasphemous; so their blood must be shed, their properties confiscated, and their females be taken as concubines; no muslem is authentic in his /her belief unless he/she belongs (affiliates) to the sect of MOHAMMAD BIN ABDUL WAHAB, (whose origins are also Jewish from TURKEY.) His doctrines give authority to the SAUDI FAMILY to destroy the villages with all their inhabitants-males including children, and to sexually assault their women; stab the bellies of the pregnant, and cut off the hands of their children, then burn them! They are further authorized by such a BRUTAL DOCTRINE to plunder all the properties of whom they call renegades (not following their Wahabi Sect).

Their hideous Jewish Family has, in fact, done all that kind of atrocities in the name of their false religious sect (the Wahabi), which has actually been invented by a Jew so as to sow the seeds of terror in the hearts of people in towns and villages. This Jewish Dynasty has been committing such brutal atrocities eversince 1163 A.H. They have named the whole Arabian Peninsula after their family name (SAUDI ARABIA) as if the whole region is their own personal real estate, and that all other inhabitants are their mere servants or slaves, toiling day and night for the pleasure of their masters (THE SAUDI FAMILY).

They are completely holding the natural wealth of the country as their own property. If any poor person from the common people raises his/her voice complaining against any of the despotic rules of this Jewish Dynasty, (the Dynasty) cuts off his/her head in the public square. A princess of theirs once visited FLORIDA, USA, with her retinue; she rented 90 (NINETY) Suite rooms in a Grand Hotel for about One Million Dollars a night! Can anyone of their subjects comment about that extravagant event If he/she does, his/her fate is quite known: DEATH WITH THE EDGE OF THE SAUDI SWORD IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE!!!!!!

Witnesses on the Jewish Ancestry of this Saudi Family:

In the 1960's the "SAWT AL ARAB" Broadcasting Station in Cairo, Egypt, and the YEMEN Broadcasting Station in SANA'A confirmed the Jewish Ancestry of the SAUDI Family.

King FAISAL AL-SAUD at that time could not deny his family's kindred with the JEWS when he declared to the WASHINGTON POST on Sept. 17, 1969 stating: "WE, THE SAUDI FAMILY, are cousins of the Jews: we entirely disagree with any Arab or Muslem Authority which shows any antagonism to the Jews; but we must live together with them in peace. Our country (ARABIA) is the Fountain head from where the first Jew sprang, and his descendants spread out all over the world." That was the declaration of KING FAISAL AL-SAUD BIN ABDUL AZIZ!!!!!

HAFEZ WAHBI, The SAUDI Legal Adviser, mentioned in his book entitled: "THE PENINSULA OF ARABIA" that KING ABDUL AZIZ AL-SAUD, who died in 1953, had said : "Our Message (SAUDI MESSAGE) encountered the opposition of all Arab Tribes; my grandfather, SAUD AWAL, once imprisoned a number of the Sheikhs of MATHEER Tribe; and when another group of the same tribe came to intercede for the release of the prisoners, SAUD AWAL gave orders to his men to cut off the heads of all the prisoners, then, he wanted to humiliate and derogate the interceders by inviting them to eat from a banquet he prepared from the cooked flesh of his victims whose cut off heads he placed on the top of the food platters!! The interceders became so alarmed and declined to eat the flesh of their relatives; and, because of their refusal to eat, he ordered his men to cut off their heads too. That hideous crime was committed by that self imposed king to innocent people whose guilt was their opposition to his most cruel and extremely despotic rules.

HAFEZ WAHBI, states further that King ABDUL AZIZ AL-SAUD related that bloody true story to the Sheikhs of the MATHEER Tribe, who visited him in order to intercede for their prominent leader at that time, FAISAL AL DARWEESH, who was the king's prisoner. He related that story to them in order to prevent them from interceding for the release of their Sheikh; otherwise, they would face the same fate; He killed the Sheikh and used his blood as an ablution liquid for him just before he stood up for his prayer (after the false sect doctrine of the Wahabi); The guilt of FAISAL DARWEESH at that time was that he had criticized King ABDUL AZIZ AL-SAUD when the king signed the document which the English Authorities prepared in 1922 as a declaration for giving PALESTINE to the Jews; his signature was obtained in the conference held at AL AQEER in 1922.

That was and still is the system of this Regime of the JEWISH FAMILY (SAUDI FAMILY): All its goals are : plundering the wealth of the country, robbing, falsifying, and committing all kinds of atrocity, iniquity, and blasphemy-all are executed in compliance with their self invented Wahabi Sect which legalizes the chopping of the heads of their opposing subjects.

http://www.fortunecity.com/boozers/bridge/632/history.html

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self invented Wahabi Sect which legalizes the chopping of the heads of their opposing subjects. [i.e., Sharia]

vs.

NOAHIDE LAWS: 16) "That the court is to administer the death penalty by the sword [i.e., decapitation]." (Positive 226)

Merry Christmas and Off With Your Head

http://www.public-action.com/christmas.html

Sharia law, aka Noahide Law was presented to the Supreme Court as a brief on Capital Punishment.

Nathan Lewin, in his brief to the US Supreme Court, echoes the words of Rabbi Justice Elon: "Jewish Law was particularly insistent on the preservation of even a criminal's rights and dignity during the course of punishment."

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was nominated to the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit by President Jimmy Carter and sworn in June 30,1980. She was nominated Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States by President Bill Clinton and sworn in August 10, 1993. Along with Justices Scalia and Breyer, Justice Ginsburg attended the kosher dinner held at the Supreme Court building on November 5, 2002, to mark the founding of the Washington-based National Institute for Judaic Law.(1) Justice Ginsburg received the American Jewish Committee Award for Distinguished Jewish American and Israeli Feminists in January 2000 at a ceremony in the Israeli Knesset. See And So a Talmud Marriage Ends (40)

Supreme Court Justice Stephen G. Breyer was nominated Judge, United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit by President Jimmy Carter, December 10, 1980 and held Chief Judge, 1990-1994. He was nominated Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States by President Bill Clinton, and sworn in August 3, 1994. Along with Justices Ginsburg and Scalia, Justice Breyer attended the kosher dinner held at the Supreme Court building on November 5, 2002, to mark the founding if the Washington-based National Institute for Judaic Law.(1)

Does Judge Breyer know about the 1991 Congressional Noahide declaration? (See America's New Government Church) Does he believe the Noahide Laws were the basis "upon which our great Nation was founded"? If so, he must wonder why he was asked to swear an oath to the US Constitution and Bill of Rights before taking office.

Justice Antonin Scalia was nominated to United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit by President Ronald Reagan and sworn in August 17, 1982. He was nominated Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States by President Reagan and sworn in September 26, 1986. Along with Justices Ginsburg and Breyer, Justice Scalia attended the Kosher dinner held at the Supreme Court building on November 5, 2002, to mark the founding if the Washington-based National Institute for Judaic Law. According to the Jerusalem Post, "Scalia, in a letter to the institute's founder, Noson Gurary, wrote that 'Jewish law is certainly one of the oldest and most highly developed systems' and explained why the comparative study of legal traditions was beneficial."(1)

Has Justice Scalia's pen pal, Rabbi Noson Gurary, tipped him off about the Noahide Laws? Does Justice Scalia know he will soon have to stop calling himself a "devout Catholic," or lose his head? See America's New Government Church...."

Death Penalty and Talmud Law 2.

http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/capunish_2.html

Supreme Court brief here: http://jlaw.com/Briefs/capital2.html

I found it interesting that the name of the Jew that started it all was MORDAKHAI, the same name of the fiend written about in the book of Esther, which a lot of us do not believe was inspired by God.

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Est/Est002.html#5

Mordecai = "little man" or "worshipper of Mars"

1) cousin and adoptive father of queen Esther; son of Jair of the tribe of Benjamin; deliverer under Divine providence of the children of Israel from the destruction plotted by Haman the chief minister of Ahasuerus; institutor of the feast of Purim

2) a Jew who returned from exile with Zerubbabel

cf.blueletterbible.org/la....cfm?Strongs=H04782&t=kjv

I also think it interesting about Scalia, who is supposed to be Catholic. [See How the Vatican Invented Islam; and Mystery Babylon the Great: Catholic or Jewish? http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=83300&Disp=50#C50 ]. Now that I think about it, he looks as if he could pass for one of the Saudi royal family.

He gained some personal importance among the Bedouins, and decided to settle permanently there, at DIR'IYA town, near AL QATEEF, which he decided to be his (Capital) on the Persian Gulf. He aspired to make it his spring board for establishing a Jewish Kingdom in Arabia.

Just a thought: Al Qateef = Al Qaeda, the BASE???

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-07-09   10:36:05 ET  (5 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4)

Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat023.html#15 / www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mat/23/15.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-07-09   10:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: X-15 (#4)

related:

Saudi School Head Charged [on the Islamic Saudi Academy] - critics allege school's textbooks teach violence and hate [Alexandria, Virginia]

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=83396

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-07-09   19:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#5) (Edited)

Saudi ordered to pay back $1.16 billion in BCCI case ..

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A federal judge has ordered a retired Saudi government official to pay $1.16 billion in damages to the court-appointed liquidators of BCCI, a now-defunct foreign bank that was at the center of an international scandal. U.S. District Judge Joyce Hens Green ruled that Abdul Raouf Hasan Khalil, a Saudi businessman who was believed to be the biggest depositor in the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, conspired with bank officials in a fraudulent scheme that resulted in big losses to the Third World bank.

Green found that Khalil allowed BCCI to use his name and reputation as a shareholder in exchange for a payment of millions of dollars. The scheme allegedly included siphoning off more than $250 million from BCCI to Capcom Financial Services Ltd., a brokerage company partly owned by Khalil.

Khalil's attorneys, James Linn and Stephen Johnson, didn't return telephone calls Thursday seeking comment. Khalil is retired and living in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, according to the liquidators.

"We are pleased that the court has recognized the significant loss to BCCI caused by the activities of Mr. Khalil," said Stephen Akers, a partner in the accounting firm Deloitte & Touche, who is one of the liquidators. "We intend to enforce this judgment aggressively so that additional funds can be repaid to the innocent victims of BCCI as soon as possible." The liquidators have said the victims include depositors and other creditors of the bank who were owed some $10.5 billion.

The ruling family of the Persian Gulf emirate of Abu Dhabi owned 77 percent of BCCI before it collapsed amid allegations of arms smuggling, drug money laundering and financing of terrorists. At its peak, the bank had 1.3 million depositors and operations in 70 countries.

BCCI pleaded guilty in December 1991 to federal fraud charges and forfeited a record $550 million in assets. In a plea bargain, BCCI acknowledged its secret, illegal ownership of four U.S. banks, including First American Bankshares, then the biggest bank holding company in Washington.

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Saudi - Israeli Relations

Relations between the House of Saud and the Israel is not new, in spite of the official Arab embargo against the Zionist State. Sadat opened the way, not to a peace process, but to what amounts to a mere submission to Zionist hegemony. A hegemony constantly nurtured and skilfully maintained by the United States against the will of 200 million Arabs. Sadat, however, simply embodied openly a surrendering to global arrogance, which had started already with King Hassan of Morocco and Tunisias Bourguiba in the sixties. The House of Saud, a sisterly entity to the Moroccan monarchy, and with close ties with Rabat, had therefore a natural, albeit interested, inclination to close ranks with the Israelis.

Another article will be published at a later date detailing intelligence and think-tank sources.

At the level of the political and intelligence contacts between Israel and the House of Saud, news became more precise from the seventies onwards. In 1976 Saudi Arabia sent a written message to Tel Aviv offering it a huge amount of money in return for giving up the Arab territories occupied in June 1967 (Haulam Hizza 26/10/1980). The letter which was secretly carried to the Israelis by Tunisian Foreign Minister Mohammed Masmoudi, contained three main ideas. These included Israels withdrawal from the occupied territories and its agreement on the setting up of an Palestinian State headed by the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO); all the Arab States would recognize Israel and would sign a peace treaty with it; finally, the Saudi regime would grant the Zionist State the sum of three billion dollars.

Meanwhile, a number of close aides of the late Shimon Perez secretly met with two Saudi envoys in Morocco(Dafar 12/02/1986). At the meeting which was arranged by Rabats Interior Minister, the Israeli officials handed over to the Saudis information over a plan to assassinate a number of members of the House of Saud.

On behalf of the House of Saud, the Saudi ambassador in Washington, Prince Bandar bin Sultan was the most prominent contact with world Jewry and the Zionist officials, using the American capital as well as New York as the venue of his secret contacts, away from any Arab peoples suspicion. In an important meeting which took place in New York in November 1991, Prince Bandar said that the rulers of Arabia had brought pressure to bear on the PLO, and in particular on its leader Yassir Arafat, to issue a communiqu33;33; recognizing Israel, a move which Arafat is known to have later made. The Israeli daily Haaretz which reported the news of the meeting said that Bandar indicated that Riyadh had advised Arafat to issue the above-mentioned communiqu33;33; within the UN resolution no. 181. According to a detailed report of the meeting, Bandar said that his government would not accept a Palestinian solution based on the setting up of an independent Palestinian State, but that it would favour a federation with Jordan. The report stated also that the Israeli delegation present at the meeting were under the impression that Riyadh believed that by postponing the negotiations and a settlement they would radicalize the PLO.

He further told them that if Israel took the initiative to stop the settlement policy in the Arab occupied territories, the Saudi regime would make sure that the Arab States would agree to put an end to their economic embargo. Even more interesting, Bandar informed them that his government would also strive to have the intifada containedan indication, as the French daily Le Monde said at the time, that it was the intifada that worried the Israelis, not the PLO.

According to Israeli radio (Nov.19 91), Bandar met Jewish leaders as a representative of King Fahd himself. Bandar reportedly also pointed out that the Syrians would follow up their bilateral talks with the Israel, while he also did not eliminate the likelihood of Damascus participating in multilateral regional talks. He went further, stressing that the Saudi Kingdom did not consider itself party to the Middle Eastern conflict rather that it was playing an important role trying to persuade the Arab countries to carry on talking to the Israelis until a global settlement was reached. He indicated that once such a settlement was reached, Riyadh would be ready to finance joint economic projects in the Middle East.

Speaking on behalf of the meeting, Henry Sigman, an executive director of the World Jewish Congress, said that he personally worked hard to persuade Bandar to hold the meeting. He also pointed out that the Saudi ambassador had held numerous such meetings with Jewish figures prior to and during the Gulf war, and that Bandar was instrumental in pushing his country to play a key role in that war, apart from getting Syria involved alongside the anti-Iraqi coalition.

According to the same Israeli radio, King Fahd also explained to the American Administration that the Kingdom as well as the Gulf States were ready to finance joint projects involving, among others, sea water desalination. According to Arab diplomats in Washington referred to by the radio, the Saudi proposal involved billions of dollars provided that the United States would take charge of the planning part of the projects and on the condition that the Israel would make territorial concessions to the Arab regimes who feared the wrath of their public opinions if normalization were to be without face-saving returns.

Furthermore the Jerusalem-based Arabic daily Al-Shaab reported on 2nd November 1992 that an American-Israeli delegation arrived in the Saudi Kingdom a few days earlier on a three-day visit. The Israelis who entered the Kingdom with western passports included prominent members of the international Zionist movement. Among these were Robert Linton, the head of the World Jewish Congress, Howard Seko Adron, member of the WJC Executive Committee, Henry Sigman (WJC), Uri Magens, psychologist and high-ranking Israeli officer, Ashrin Hagam, engineer in Israeli military industry, Ilaand Avranil of the Mossad, Yakob Munir, Economic expert (Likud party) and John Shaffron, an American Jew shareholder in the American oil company Exxon. While the Saudis did not seem to have requestedlet alone demandedanything substantial from the Israeli-Jewish delegation, the latter, headed on the Israeli side by Prince Bandars friend David Kamhi, made a number of demands. These included exercising pressure on the Arab States to immediately put an end to the boycott of Israel and King Fahad taking steps to control the phenomenon Islamic extremism, ending support for the Palestinian Islamic movement Hamas and stopping funds to the intifada , striving in order to put an end to anti-Israeli military operations from Lebanon. David Kamhi went further to urge King Fahd to use his personal influence to obtain the release of Israeli pilot Ron Arad who was made prisoner after his plane was shot down in Lebanon.

Ariel Sharon, the Israeli Defence Minister during the 82 invasion of Lebanon was quoted by the Israeli radio (20/02/89) to have declared that a few years earlier, the Saudi regime had offered Israel $100 billion to have the Saudi flag hoisted over the Sacred Mosque in Jerusalem. It was Adnan Khashoggi, a known close friend of King Fahd, who carried the message to the Israelis. This request was turned down flatly by Menahim Begin. The Israeli daily Haaretz (16/02/94) also reported the same story of money for flag-waving.

Back in 1986 the Jewish newspaper Dafar (9/01/86) quoted the notorious arms dealer as boasting that he played a personal role in Sadats normalisation of relations with Israel. For its part, the London-based Al-Dastour (20/08/1990) reported that Khashoggi invited to his 55th birthday, organized in Paris, six Israeli figures including among others Yakob Namrodi, former military attach33;33; in the Shahs Iran, and the Yedihot Aharonot daily correspondent in Cairo, Ms Samdar Perry. In an interview with the latter, the Saudi arms dealer boasted to have secretly arranged in 1982, in his own residence in Kenya, the Israeli Operation Moses to transport the Falasha Jews from Ethiopia to occupied Palestine via the Sudan. Ms Perry also revealed that Khashoggi met the Israeli Premier Shimon Perez several times and that he attempted to organize a meeting between Perez and Arafat, but that Perez refused to meet Arafat face to face at that time.

Meanwhile House of Saud members met Israeli officials directly many times. Radio Tel Aviv reported (03/02/94) that the Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister were to meet the Saudi Deputy Foreign Minister in Ottawa after a trip to Europe and North America. The meeting continued a series of previous contacts between the two sides and aimed, according to Al-Moustaqbal (10/02/94) which quoted the Jewish press, to discuss the recovery by Riyadh of the Sanafir Islands in the Aqaba Gulf.

In 1993, the Arabic weekly Akhbar Al-Usbu (30/12/93) quoted Israeli and American sources as saying that the Jewish Premier Izhak Rabin had secretly met Saud al-Faisal, Riyadhs Foreign Minister the previous week, probably in the French

capital, while another meeting had taken place at about the same time, and for the first time, between a Mossad officer and five Saudi secret service officers in the Greek capital.

On the economic front, the activities between Israel and the Saudi Kingdom have been rife. In 1986, Saudi businessmen attended an Israeli agricultural fair and passed agreements with Israeli companies for the supply of irrigation equipment (Alhamshamar, 30/09/1987). Meanwhile, in 1988 a Saudi millionaire close to the ruling family, one certain Imad Ahmad Afifi, stayed with his wife for a week in a hotel in the Gush Katif settlement of the occupied Gaza sector (Al-Fajr, Jerusalem, 19/07/1988).

Going a step further, the discreet visits from both side were made a little more official. In 1992 Saudi Arabia granted Jewish businessmen the permission to enter the Kingdom for business purposes (Haaretz, 21/08/1992), while according to high-ranking Israeli officials, Riyadh was studying the possibility to give the Israeli airline El-Al permission to cross Arabias air space during its flights to the Far East (Yedihot Aharonot, 25/07/1994). The Saudi government has not so far made this move official, so it is not known what happened next.

Furthermore, In view of the steady, albeit discreet, flocking of rich Saudi businessmen to occupied Palestine, the Israelis set up in 1993 a Development Fund in order to benefit from Saudi and Gulf investments and shareholding. The idea came to Peter Jarin, the Fund initiator, who had visited Arabia where businessmen were said to have warmed up to the idea of having access to an Israeli Fund and shares. Maariv which reported the news (18/11/1993) said that the Fund was set up especially for foreigni.e. Arabinvestors and that in the previous week Saudi businessmen bought shares to the tune of one million dollars in the Israeli company Yashtek.

The same year, in October 1993, an unnamed Saudi company started proceedings to buy flats in The Karni Shimon settlement (Maariv, 29/10/1993). About two months later the Israelis sold computers to the Kingdom for use in the irrigation systems of the public areas and of the royal family.

Most important yet is the trade in hydrocarbons. Israel was reported in 1993 to have stopped buying Mexican gas and oil after passing an agreement in this respect with Qatar (Daftar, 01/02/1994), which opened the door for the other Arab markets for Israel. Saudi businessmen visiting the Jewish State were said to have shown readiness to sell the Israelis both gas and oil given the increasing needs of the Jewish State and the need of cash by the Saudi regime which is in deep economic crisis.

In the meantime the Israelis have not wasted time in strengthening their presence on the Saudi market. In 1995 they passed an agreement for the supply of citrus fruit to the Kingdom as well as to the other Gulf countries (Maariv, 04/01/1995).

Saudi normalization of relations with the Zionist entity involved even the religious sphere. King Fahds special envoy, the Sudanese-born Sheikh Ishaq Idriss Sakhota, visited the Jewish State in May 1992, according to Al-Fajr (14/05/1992). During his one week-long stay in occupied Palestine, he was received successively by Israeli President Haim Herzog, the Israeli mayor of Jerusalem as well as senior rabbis. The purpose of the visit was not revealed, but Sheikh Sakhota said that he believed his visit was a new hope for what is to follow.

This is survey concentrated mainly on the Jewish press which, as a whole, is more believable than the Saudi propaganda machine. Apart from intelligence and think-tank reports, it is the only source for this sensitive issue. According to this report there was genuine and serious contacts between the Saudis and the Israelis which involved senior figures from both ides and which played a role in major events in the Middle East in recent years. To repeat what we said in the beginning, that is, on the contrary to the general belief that the House of Saud is leading the rebellion against the Israelis because of their claimed Islamic allegiance.

http://www.fortunecity.com/boozers/bridge/632/article19.html

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The US and Saudis after the bombing

The Saudi authorities and in specific, Prince Naef, the Minister of Interior, has bulked at that request claiming, as did Bandar in Washington on David Brinkley's ABC show, that the secuirty of Saudi Arabia is an internal matter not to be interfered with. After some violent exchanges, FBI Director FREEH flew to Saudi Arabia to appeal to King Fahd himself to allow the FBI to interrogate and extradite the culprits.

King Fahd finds himself in a dilemma that larger than his mind is able to resolve or comprehend. A promise to the United States means that he is publicly betraying the Wahabbism sect which has kept him and his brothers in power. The sect forbids the killing of a muslim if a muslim has killed an atheist (i.e. non-muslim foreigners or non-muslim Americans). When Fahd ordered the beheadings of the four Saudis who suppoosedly were responsible for the first bomb in November 1995 that killed five Americans, he put in question what Wahabbism allows or does not allow. A quick letter of condemnation drafted by the saudi government against the four Saudis signed by the top religious authority in Saudi Arabia, Sheikh el-Baz, put the issue of killing muslims bu muslims for the killing of atheists in question. The debate will continue. But if the new culprits are found and extradited to the United States, there is no question whatsoever that no religious Wahabbi leader will sign off on such a decision. Which is why Fahd, after promising Freeh, has a dilemma on his hands. Does he deliver to his friends the killers and assume a new rage of terrorism that could target the family itself now ? or does he ignore US demands for local consumption ?

BANDAR and SULTAN, THE TRICKSTERS

Bandar, prior to the meeting of Freeh with King Fahd, has advised His Majesty to comply with whatever the Americans wanted. He also advised His Majesty that promising and complying are two different things. Armed with this argument, King Fahd gave Freeh what he wanted and the game started. It is notable to say that the US media was ready to jump at Saudi Arabia has the King faltered in giving his approval for the extradition of the terrorists. The involvement of Bandar in this episode reminds us all of how Saudi Arabia mislead the United States in 1988 when it bought Chinese Ballistic missiles. They have succeeded then and they are succedding now.

FIRST TRICK

What the FBI and the Saudi authorities are going through today is a game that will long be remembered in the annals of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. A decision was made by Prince Naef, conceived by Bandar, and supported by King Fahd, to derail the investigation by sending the FBI on a false trail of leads. The first trick took the form of a white Chevrolet Caprice that was supposedly the car used to escape after parking the truck next to the building housing the US troops. For those of us who know Saudi Arabia, there is a higher chance of finding a white Chevrolet Caprice in Riyadh than it is to find the picture of King Fahd. It is the most popular car and the most popular color. Going after a Chevrolet Caprice that supposedly was stolen is a goose chase by the FBI plain and simple conceived by the internal security of Saudi Arabia to avoid the capture of the perpetrators.

SECOND TRICK

There is no proof yet that the "Movement for Islamic Change" truly exists. The second day after the bombing of TWA flight 800, CBS reported that a fax to an Arabic speaking newspaper in Londonsentbythe"MovementforIslamicChange" has predicted the bombing. The newspaper that received the fax is none other than al-Hayat, owned and operated by Prince Khalid bin Sultan, the great warrior who claimed he had as much to do with the liberation of Kuwait during Desert Storm as General Norman Schwarzkopf. The second trick has more to do with leading the F.B.I to a London based dissident group than it is to finding the real culprits. It is notable to say that the "Movement for Islamic Change" has in the past sent faxes to media organizations threatening to do harm to US troops if they do not leave Saudi Arabia by the end of June 1995. The first bomb took place in November 1995. Is this new group the figment of imagination of Saudi Intelligence Services ? a plant to get rid of CDLR once and for all ? or is it a real group whose aim is to send the US packing out of Saudi Arabia ? Why, if it is a legitimate group, it is not attempting to kill any memebrs of al-Saud House ? That is a real question that, if answered correctly, may shed some light on this movement.

THIRD TRICK

(It is in the making and will to be disclosed later)

CONCLUSION

It is the prediction of the "Committee Against Corruption in Saudi Arabia" that one day soon, the United States and most of the world will wake up to the following news blip diffused by the Saudi News Agency :

"Early this morning, the internal security of His Majesty King Fahd attached to the Ministry of Interior, surrounded a house in the suburbs of Riyadh to interrogate its occupants. Small arms fire erupted during the standoff and our security forces returned the fire killing all occupants in the house. While searching the premises, materials and leaflets were found inside the house pointing to the culpability of the occupants in carrying out the bombing of the US barracks in late June of 1996. The publication and leaflets hav been distributed in the past by CDLR, an illegitimate group based in London. All eight occupants died suffering from gunfire wounds."

Justice was accidentally delivered by the Saudi authorities calming any fear of reprisals against al-Saud House because they delivered muslims to the US. The US was short circuited with their effort to show-off that they will punish terrorism. Life was back to the time just before the bombing with two radical change : Al-Saud House, while in dire needs for the US troops in Saudi Arabia, has successfully wigled out of the hole it found itself in after the bombing and the US is on constant alert against terrorist attacks decreasing the chances of terrorism.

http://www.fortunecity.com/boozers/bridge/632/article33.html

*** By Deception Thou Shalt Do War.

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King Fahd finds himself in a dilemma that larger than his mind is able to resolve or comprehend. A promise to the United States means that he is publicly betraying the Wahabbism sect which has kept him and his brothers in power. *** The sect forbids the killing of a muslim if a muslim has killed an atheist (i.e. non-muslim foreigners or non-muslim Americans).

BANDAR and SULTAN, THE TRICKSTERS

Bandar, prior to the meeting of Freeh with King Fahd, has advised His Majesty to comply with whatever the Americans wanted. He also advised His Majesty that promising and complying are two different things.

*** Tidbits From the Talmud

"Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there...."

"... Schabouth Hag. 6b: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording....."

"...Non-Jews are Not Human Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human ("Only ye are designated men").

Also see Kerithoth 6b under the sub-head, "Oil of Anointing" and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women are designated animals ("she-asses").

Jews are Divine, Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews, Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a Gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status, Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews, Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews, Sanhedrin 57a . *** When a Jew murders a Gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews, Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile. ...."

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/talmud_tidbits.html

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Saudi normalization of relations with the Zionist entity involved even the religious sphere. King Fahds special envoy, the Sudanese-born Sheikh Ishaq Idriss Sakhota, visited the Jewish State in May 1992, according to Al-Fajr (14/05/1992). During his one week-long stay in occupied Palestine, he was received successively by Israeli President Haim Herzog, the Israeli mayor of Jerusalem as well as senior rabbis. The purpose of the visit was not revealed, but Sheikh Sakhota said that he believed his visit was a new hope for what is to follow.

AP Standards: Obama's Top Contributors Linked to Investments in [Sudan]... May 15, 2008 ... Barack Obama's number 2 contributor the University of California held pensions and endowment funds that were partially held in the Sudan ... http://www.newsbusters.org/.../2...-linked-investments-sudan

Cush - Ancient Sudan. The early relationship between ancient Egypt and Cush. ancienthistory.about.com/cs/nepeople/a/cush.htm

Ezekiel 38:5 Persia, Ethiopia and Put with them, all of them with OT Prophets: Ezekiel 38:5 Persia Cush and Put with them all earch Tools ... bible.cc/ezekiel/38-5.htm

"...Geneva Study Bible

{c} Persia, Cush, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:

(c) The Persians, Ethiopians and men of Africa....."

"....Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

38:1-13 These events will be in the latter days. It is supposed these enemies will come together to invade the land of Judea, and God will defeat them. God not only sees who are now the enemies of **** his church, but he foresees who will be so, and lets them know by his word that he is against them; though they join together, the wicked shall not be unpunished."

bible.cc/ezekiel/38-5.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-07-15   12:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Voice of the White House July 15, 2005

TBR News.org – July 15, 2005

Had lunch today with a good friend from Department of State. Fascinating conversation that your readers might be interested in. Seems the folks there are becoming highly agitated because a certain “front operation” for DHS has been breaking into the confidential computers of mid-east banking concerns, initially spying on certain Saudi bank accounts believed to be controlled by the bin Laden family. I made notes and these are the banks involved in the clandestine hacking:

National Commercial Bank, Riyad
Riyad Bank, Riyad
Saudi American Bank, Riyad
Al Rajhi Banking and Investment Corp., Riyad
Saudi British Bank, Riyad
Arab National Bank, Riyad (Arab Bank Subs.)
Al Bank Al Saudi Al Fransi, Abha
Saudi Hollandi Bank, Riyad
Al-Jazeera bank, Riyad
Al-Akami bank, Riyad
Al Bank Al Saudi Al Tejari Al Muttahed, Dammam
Faysal Islamic Bank of Bahrain, Jeddah
International bank, Riyad
Islamic Development Bank, Jeddah
Saudi Arabian Agricultural Bank, Riyadh
Saudi Cairo Bank, Riyadh
Saudi Development and Industrial Corp., Riyadh
Saudi French bank, Riyad
Saudi Investment Bank, Riyad
Saudi United commercial bank, Riyad
United Saudi Bank, Riyadh
Western union, Jeddah
World Bank, Riyadh

It looks like the clearing house SAMA uses is SWIFT, The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication, Avenue Adèle 1, B-1310 La Hulpe, Belgium. Their “secure” electronic transfers have also, apparently, been breached by the snoopers. State is afraid that if the Royal family of Saudi Arabia ever finds out that we are snooping, if we are, into their own personal financial dealings, it could cause immense trouble over oil. The State people are livid with rage over this because of the collateral damage that could result but my friend told me that DHS is run by a bunch of rejects from the BATF and who have no oversight and less intelligence. I would wager that certain previous financial transactions between the Bush interests and the bin Laden family will never be mentioned. Toss this up in the air and see if anyone is interested. Perhaps Conyers might be and even the New York Times (who is growing increasingly disenchanted with the Bush machine) might find this of interest. There are some very skilled hackers out there and even worse are the so-called “crackers” who are contract specialists hired specifically to break high level security codes. Surely the right hand knoweth not what the left hand doeth! Selah” www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1703.htm

See our Inside the White House archive: www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/category.asp?id=41

Last updated 18/07/2005

www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=3354

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February 16, 2008

Saudi Prince threatened Blair with terrorism

The Guardian UK is reporting that Saudi Prince Bandar threatened another 7/7 if investigations into their arms deals weren’t stopped:

Previously secret files describe how investigators were told they faced “another 7/783; and the loss of “British lives on British streets” if they pressed on with their inquiries and the Saudis carried out their threat to cut off intelligence. Prince Bandar, the head of the Saudi national security council, and son of the crown prince, was alleged in court to be the man behind the threats to hold back information about suicide bombers and terrorists. He faces accusations that he himself took more than £1bn in secret payments from the arms company BAE.

And remember, Bandar is Bush’s good friend."

drinkingliberallyslc.org/...ned-blair-with-terrorism/

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

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