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Title: Antarctic ice shelf 'hanging by thread': European scientists
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URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/article.ph ... 175751.a4ni0j9h&show_article=1
Published: Jul 10, 2008
Author: AFP
Post Date: 2008-07-10 16:01:49 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 210
Comments: 10

New evidence has emerged that a large plate of floating ice shelf attached to Antarctica is breaking up, in a troubling sign of global warming, the European Space Agency (ESA) said on Thursday. Images taken by its Envisat remote-sensing satellite show that Wilkins Ice Shelf is "hanging by its last thread" to Charcot Island, one of the plate's key anchors to the Antarctic peninsula, ESA said in a press release.

"Since the connection to the island... helps stabilise the ice shelf, it is likely the breakup of the bridge will put the remainder of the ice shelf at risk," it said.

Wilkins Ice Shelf had been stable for most of the last century, covering around 16,000 square kilometres (6,000 square miles), or about the size of Northern Ireland, before it began to retreat in the 1990s.

Since then several large areas have broken away, and two big breakoffs this year left only a narrow ice bridge about 2.7 kilometres (1.7 miles) wide to connect the shelf to Charcot and nearby Latady Island.

The latest images, taken by Envisat's radar, say fractures have now opened up in this bridge and adjacent areas of the plate are disintegrating, creating large icebergs.

Scientists are puzzled and concerned by the event, ESA added.

The Antarctic peninsula -- the tongue of land that juts northward from the white continent towards South America -- has had one of the highest rates of warming anywhere in the world in recent decades.

But this latest stage of the breakup occurred during the Southern Hemisphere's winter, when atmospheric temperatures are at their lowest.

One idea is that warmer water from the Southern Ocean is reaching the underside of the ice shelf and thinning it rapidly from underneath.

"Wilkins Ice Shelf is the most recent in a long, and growing, list of ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula that are responding to the rapid warming that has occurred in this area over the last fifty years," researcher David Vaughan of the British Antarctic Survey (BAS) said.

"Current events are showing that we were being too conservative, when we made the prediction in the early 1990s that Wilkins Ice Shelf would be lost within 30 years. The truth is, it is going more quickly than we guessed."

In the past three decades, six Antarctic ice shelves have collapsed completely -- Prince Gustav Channel, Larsen Inlet, Larsen A, Larsen B, Wordie, Muller and the Jones Ice Shelf.


Poster Comment:

Here's some fuel to add to the global warming fire debate ;)

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Imagine the hazard to shipping that a continent of floating ice could pose.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-07-10   18:03:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine, *Agriculture-Environment* (#0)

Here's some fuel to add to the global warming fire debate ;)

Like we needed that. ;)

I'll pass this on to my science friends and see what they say.


"You have delusions of adequacy."

farmfriend  posted on  2008-07-10   18:21:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

The June 16 Newsweek reported that Craig Venter, who decoded the human genome, is now working on creating bioengineered bacteria that will take CO2 out of the atmosphere and metabolize it into gasoline and diesel fuel.

So it addresses global warming and fuel at the same time.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-07-10   19:46:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: MUDDOG (#3)

now working on creating bioengineered bacteria that will take CO2 out of the atmosphere and metabolize it into gasoline and diesel fuel.

What if these "bacteria" change their attitude and start taking humans off the planet and metabolize them into dog shit.

I'm a little uncomfortable with filling the universe with bacteria designed by these bio-engineering freaks.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2008-07-10   20:02:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222 (#4)

What if these "bacteria" change their attitude and start taking humans off the planet and metabolize them into dog shit.

That'd solve the problem too.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-07-10   20:24:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: MUDDOG, christine (#3)

So it addresses global warming and fuel at the same time.

Not to mention possibly starving all the plants, you know, those green things that make oxygen.


"You have delusions of adequacy."

farmfriend  posted on  2008-07-10   20:26:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: farmfriend (#6)

There's plenty of CO2 to go around.

Besides, plants are so inefficient.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-07-10   20:27:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: MUDDOG (#7)

There's plenty of CO2 to go around.

With what scientific evidence? Greenhouses use much higher concentrations and levels have been much higher in the past when the planet was more green than today.


"You have delusions of adequacy."

farmfriend  posted on  2008-07-10   20:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: noone222, MUDDOG (#4)

What if these "bacteria" change their attitude and start taking humans off the planet and metabolize them into dog shit.

I'm a little uncomfortable with filling the universe with bacteria designed by these bio-engineering freaks.

Funny!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-07-10   20:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine, Original_Intent, *Agriculture-Environment* (#0)

This is what I'm getting from my scientist friends:

One point I am pondering is whether the excessive sea ice last Southern winter caused stresses and fractures in the shelf and made it more susceptible to collapse. (A kind of "too much of a good thing".)

I agree. The article says:

The latest images, taken by Envisat's radar, say fractures have now opened up in this bridge and adjacent areas of the plate are disintegrating, creating large icebergs.

and

One idea is that warmer water from the Southern Ocean is reaching the underside of the ice shelf and thinning it rapidly from underneath.

The suggested "idea" really is clutching at straws. Melting is induced by heat and fracture is induced by stress. The fractures are happening in winter. And winter is the season when temperatures are at their lowest and when ice growth is greatest.

Unless there is direct evidence of the ice thinning then there is no reason to introduce any suggestion that the fracture of the ice bridge is related to higher temperatures. Indeed, the fact that the fractures are happening in the winter implies that the reverse is true: i.e. the most probable explanation is that large ice growth is providing stress to the ice bridge with resulting stress fractures of the bridge.


"You have delusions of adequacy."

farmfriend  posted on  2008-07-11   14:59:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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