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Title: A Pre-emptive Process to Make a Perfect Heaven
Source: MatthewGoh.com
URL Source: http://www.matthewgoh.com/index.html
Published: Jul 11, 2008
Author: Matthew Goh
Post Date: 2008-07-11 22:56:56 by Old Friend
Keywords: None
Views: 572
Comments: 28

Rebelling God is the cause of evil. To create a perfect heaven, he needs to completely destroy evil and to stop evil from being recreated.

God's purpose is to create a perfect heaven. He knows that evil is the result of rebelling (disobeying) him. Being all-knowing, he knows that the only way to make a perfect heaven (prevent God rebellious soul) is to let us experience the consequences of rebelling him, that's the sufferings caused by sins.

That's why we were sent here, a temporary earth, temporary life, where evil rules. All the faults that we commonly find against God are infact our saviors, the consequences that make us elligible for eternal life. The consequences that make us love him, submit to him eternally in heaven. We know the theory about action A causes action B, our experiences determine our destiny.

How to create a perfect heaven? We are all living in the process of making a perfect heaven. One possibility is the use of pre-emptive process. Since God is all-knowing and timeless, he can just work to and fro between times. All things happening now affect our future occurances. God is actively working to allow more souls (who will not rebel against him) into heaven. He can even bar those souls who cannot be saved, who are destined to commit sins in heaven.

A pre-emptive process of making a perfect heaven. If it's right, it explains why some believe in Christ, some don't. It explains our sufferings, and why some Christians have to suffer, and some don't. It explains Christian faith, God's hidden nature, etc. Like it says, things happen for good, for God's purpose.

All souls who finally enter into heaven will not rebel God eternally. Free will, and at the same time, they are the works of our all-knowing and loving God. That's why it was written; all souls will praise him eternally in heaven.

So, what is needed in heaven is the 2 greatest commandments; love God and love our neighbours, and heaven will remain perfect eternally. If we love God, we will never rebel him and hence evil will never be recreated. If we love our neighbours, all souls will live in harmony with one another. Perhaps this is what Jesus means; these 2 commandments replace all other commandments.

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#1. To: Old Friend (#0)

Yeah, like it is a big surprise you are into a Christian jihad.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-07-12   11:28:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Jihad?

I posted this article because I thought it was interesting. I don't know if I subscribe to it though. I posted another part at Robins site. They go hand in hand.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-07-12   11:34:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

In what way is it interesting? It talks about attacking anything that does not support your particular spiritual paradigm, labeling it as fodder for obliteration. It reads like a Christian el Qaeda tract.

There is no difference between Fundie Muslims and Fundie Christians. Thanks for showing such a good example of the 'how this is sos' that are out there.

And I mean, they are really really out there.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-07-12   11:41:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

In what way is it interesting?

The concept that we are tested here on earth. We have free will. And that God wont allow rebellion against his word in Heaven.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-07-12   11:44:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And who the fuck are you to turn your views into my laws?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-07-12   11:46:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And who the fuck are you to turn your views into my laws?

Where does this article talk about making any laws? I must have missed that one.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-07-12   11:50:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord; for ye serve the Lord Christ. Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them. And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men; as he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."

This sort of patriarchal nonsense is pure Christian Taliban.

This garbage you post supports the view that is very very very intolerant of other religious beliefs and models.

The velvet hammer approach is one I am familiar with, and you and this guy can stick your proselytizing with the intent of making your religion the only one around up your respective fat asses.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-07-12   14:50:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

This garbage you post supports the view that is very very very intolerant of other religious beliefs and models.

Yes. Why would God be tolerant of things masquerading as the ONE TRUE GOD.

You don't have eyes to see or ears to hear.

Yes wives should submit to their husbands.

Christian Taliban is an oxymoron. It is a little word that folks like yourselves have invented when you can't deal with reality.

I hope you find out the truth Ferret. Because part of you is a decent person. You have some good fruit. I hope you don't throw it all away.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-07-12   14:56:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You are like Moron OReilly bringing plastic swords onto the David Letterman show.

If you bring the trashy, coercive and intolerant trappings of your religion in here, they get the feedback they deserve.

The long of it is that you are like a trench coated flasher sticking the dick of your religion in everyone's face to try to impress and intimidate.

The short of it is your real life mushroom of a micro dick that is like a human penis but only smaller.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-07-12   15:03:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My religion is against infanticide. Your religion on the other hand celebrates it. That is obvious with your selection of Obama as your Messiah. That would be Obama the baby killer.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-07-12   15:06:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Bush is your Messiah. He likes to use the issue to control others, not to promote human life.

People who claim pro-life stances who then turn around and sanctify the use of war for personal gain and the right to decide when someone dies by supporting pander to the masses capital punishment are anything but pro-life.

Yes, we see the loss of life, maiming and human displacement a 'pro-life' Bush brings us.

We see what a pro-life president who taunts those being executed gives us in governance if we use abortion as the sole criteria for support of a candidate brings us. And through this example if an evil president we know better then to use a skewed filter such as yours' when we decide whom we will support for POTUS.

Your point is self serving and has no logic to in how it seeks to manipulate the situation and use people.

Sorry bub, but your point has no real point to it but to serve a subjective agenda.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-07-12   15:15:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Ferret if you want to criticize me, then please do so accurately.

I am not a Bush supporter. You are an Obama supporter though. Obama celebrates abortion. That makes you an accessory to the continues murder of little innocent babies. Little innocent babies ferret. Think about it. Little innocent babies.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-07-12   15:19:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

When you use your logic about how being anti-abortion should be used to ascertain whom to support for the presidency, you argue for Bush over Kerry 2004, Bush over Gore 2000.

Obama has a far superior grasp on reality and the sanctity of human life then Bush or Cheney ever will. But by your logic and blinder wearing way of looking at things, he would be a better choice for POTUS then Barack Obama.

I look at a person at a balance of whom they are and how they operate, one never agrees with everyone on everything anyway.

You can try to use abortion as a wedge issue in this all you want, but people are wise to that tactic these days, and it will not stop Obama from taking the oath of office for the presidency of the United States of America on 20 January 2009.

Sorry about your bad luck.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-07-12   15:26:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#26. To: Ferret Mike (#25)

Peroutka was a better choice then Bush or Kerry. Barr is a better choice then McCain or Abomination.

Unfortunately you are locked into the two party farce.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-07-12 15:30:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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