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Title: V.K. Durham and the $206,858,581,465,280,000,000.00 Gold Swindle
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Published: Feb 20, 2004
Author: V K Durham
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V.K. Durham and the $206,858,581,465,280,000,000.00 Gold Swindle topic posted Fri, February 20, 2004 Arizona: Intent to dissolve current US Federal Government, 34 other states approval By V K Durham Al-Jazeerah, Jan 18, 2004 In other words; Arizona and 34 other Sovereign Civil Governments of the Republic Commonwealths of the Union of the united states are "asserting their Xth (tenth)Amendment Rights" by adopting HRC 2034. HRC 2034 Arizona states its intentions to dissolve the current federal government with the approval of 34 other states and, in essence, start over. The original Herrman-Herman Estate, set aside 24 per cent of the December 28, 1988 notarized calculations of the U.S. Debt owed to this Trust, calculated from May 1, 1875 to May 1, 1990 in the amount of $206,858,581,465,280,000,000.00 Gold, now held in safe keeping of the Durham (Intl. Ltd;) Holding Trust (TIAS 12087) for these states of the union adopting their Xth Amendment rights once again. The Estate was blocked in Illinois from Probate by alleged "Failure of the states to file in timely fashion." The 24 per cent was transferred to the Safe Keeping of Trust at that time. With Illinois "blocking" the Will of the People, the setting up the Safe Keeping in the Trust was absolutely necessary. Illinois then proceeded along with the U.S. Federal Reserve Banking Systems, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (U.S. Dept. of the Treasury) to perpetrated the worst acts that can be committed against the people. At that time, Russell Herman allegedly died in testate, leaving no will, and no family. While V.K. Durham suffered Department of Health and Human Services (Social Security) Record Tampering and Erasure. V.K. Durham was listed as "Deceased." This gave plenty of lee way for the current global problems presenting themselves in the 1980´s type Banking Crisis in China, Europe, Japan, Indonesia, Malaysia, the UK and U.S. and elsewhere involving banks connected with the U.S. Federal Reserve Banking Systems and U.S. Foreign Federal Reserve Banking Systems. Additionally; The Agreement cut with the Global Alliance Investment Association Corporate Officers known as E.J. Ekker (Eckert) and Doris J. Ekker (Eloise-Eckert) currently issuing Counterfeit "not now performing gold derivatives" out of the Philippines, has brought about global problems for the U.S. Federal Government "quasi" federal agency UK and U.S. Corporations known as the Federal Reserve Banking Systems. The entire world knows about the $6.5 TRILLION DOLLAR DEBT SWAP-DEBT CONVERSION "PAYMENT OF THE U.S. and LATIN AMERICAN DEBT agreed upon May 21, 2003. The entire world also is aware of the sudden unlimited funds put into the stock markets by June 16, 2003 by the U.S. Federal Reserve Systems, instead of complying with the Specific Terms and Conditions stated in the DEBT SWAP-DEBT CONVERSION "PAYMENT OF THE U.S. and LATIN AMERICAN DEBT" Gold Collateral Instruments, tendered by the CREDITOR to the DEBTOR just to get them off the American Continent, and out of the united states, freeing the people of the America´s from "Predatory Banking Practices and Usury." Currently; As per usual, involving DECEPTIVE, FALSE AND MISLEADING FRAUDULENT ACTIVITY BY THE FED. R.; Instead of CREDITING BACK THE DEBT SWAP-DEBT CONVERSION $6.5 TRILLION DOLLAR "DEBT PAYMENT" TO THE U.S. AND LATIN AMERICANS; The FED is attempting to pick up all the "Not now performing Gold Derivatives" around the world using the stock markets, oil credits etc attempting to resolve the 1880´s-1980’s S&L type Banking situations created by these "not now performing gold derivatives" in the European Banking Systems, China etc. GLOBAL S&L "TYPE" BANKING CRISIS; AS EURO TIGHTENS "AUDITING STANDARDS" WHILE CHINA ANNOUNCES NEW BAILOUT OF BIG BANKS http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham /GlobalS&lType.html CHINA ANNOUNCES NEW BAILOUT OF BIG BANKS http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham /ChinaAnnouncesBail.html WORST CASE SCENARIO; LIES, MORE LIES TO COVER-UP PREDATORY BANKING AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITY; PART TWO http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham /WorstCaseScenario2.html Verification can be found at various web sites, Rueters, BBC, http://atimes.com , New York Times, Wall Street Journal and other credible news reporting agencies including http://www.moneyfiles.org and so forth. We, the Trust have previously notified ALL BANKS including the World Bank & IMF, the Banks of the Organization of American States, The Islamic Banks of Jeddah and Riyadh, S. Africa, China, Argentina, Brazil, Indonesia, Malaysia, Japan etals: "We stand hold harmless from these Counterfeit Prime Bank Gold Instruments written on BONUS CERTIFICATE 3392-181. We will in no way be responsible for these International Banking, Financing and Economic Frauds. We did not authorize the usage of "Bonus 3392-181".. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "BONUS CERTIFICATE" 3392-181." As states pull away from Unconstitutional Practices by these Foreign UK and U.S. quasi Federal Agencies "by declaring HR2034 with the approval of 34 additional states" is a move in the right direction freeing themselves from "Acts not in compliance with Law" perpetrated by these UK and U.S. quasi Federal Agencies, in violation of Act of Congress allowing them to conduct business as "Payers of the U.S. Debts." Per the Estate provisions; Each state (HR2034) qualifies for $2.4 Billion Dollars Gold Collateral. Multiply the $2.4 Billion X´s current Par of $68.00, this takes care of the infra-structure, education etc economic problems immediately. ----- Ok. What the hell is aljazeerah.info ..its not http://aljazeera.net, the popular arabic news network. That whole editorial/opinion/delusional fantasy makes absolutely zero sense, and those numbers are something out of science fiction. ------------ Not certain about AJ but V.K. Durham is for real. At least, as a real as certain details. These details are verifiable from her website antechamber or one can go on Rumor Mill News and read her postings. The upshot is her claim is to a gold contract from the l9th century that has been used as collateral by the Fed/CIA and her further claims is in regard to the murder/execution torture of her husband. Economics today is known as a dismal science and I see clearly why this is so. -------------- Sounds too good to be true... ------------------- February 26, 2004 Yes, I understand. However, if thought of as fraud and murder, like a friend of the family killed by the mob over a casino transaction and then finding the local police in bed with the mob, it is not so hard to grasp. Money, murder, modernity, the three m's. The bottom line is how long will a free people tolerate the swindle. The soldiers are not in the streets as yet. LA is not Hati. We may take action as a free and democratic people to rid ourselves of a parasitic oligarchy which bankrupts a nation. ------------- Arizona Prepares For Secession From US By adopting HRC 2034, Arizona states its intention to dissolve the current federal government with the approval of 34 other states and, in essence, ... http://www.rense.com/general47/ariz.htm " 1-14-4 An Arizona state legislative committee has approved a resolution calling for the dissolution of the federal government in the event that it abolishes the U.S. Constitution, declares martial law or confiscates firearms -- scenarios some say are not unrealistic. Critics of the resolution, however, call the measure a "total waste of time." Rep. Karen Johnson, a Mesa Republican and chair of the House Committee on Federal Mandates and States' Rights, authored the resolution which the committee approved 3-2. Only the committee's vice-chair, Republican Rep. Gail Griffin, abstained from voting. Specifically, House Concurrent Resolution 2034 outlines the origin of the United States, emphasizing the sovereignty of the states and their constitutional right to "establish a new federal government for themselves by following the precedent established by Article VII, Constitution of the United States, in which nine of the existing thirteen states dissolved the existing Union under the Articles of Confederation and automatically superceded the Articles." It also articulates constitutional violations committed by the federal government as justification for the measure, saying "... the fifty current principals, or signatories, to the [Constitution] have done well in honoring and obeying it, yet the federal agent has, for decades, violated it in both word and spirit. The many violations of the Constitution of the United States by the federal government include disposing of federal property without the approval of Congress, usurping jurisdiction from the states in such matters as abortion and firearms rights and seeking control of public lands within state borders," says the resolution. By adopting HRC 2034, Arizona states its intention to dissolve the current federal government with the approval of 34 other states and, in essence, start over. Participating states would re-ratify and re-establish the present Constitution "as the charter for the formation of a new federal government, to be followed by the election of a new Congress and President and the reorganization of a new judiciary," in keeping with the original intent of the "founding fathers." Individual members of the military will return to their respective states and report to the governor until a new president is elected. In addition, each state will assume a prorated portion of the national debt and will own all land within its borders. After the new government is formed, the remaining 15 states will be permitted to join the revised union upon application, as was the case with the original union. A three-year veteran to the Arizona Legislature, Johnson told the Sierra Times the resolution is "insurance policy." "If the federal government declares martial law or attempts to confiscate guns, the states shouldn't have to put up with that," she said......." $6.5 Trillion Dollar Collateralized, U.S. Debt Payment by Debt Swap-Debt Conversion To: President@WhiteHouse.gov ; President George W. Bush Mr. President: There is a $6.5 Trillion Dollar "Equity" Gold Collateral "Payment" of the U.S. Debt, sorely needing to be addressed. When the negotiations commenced in regards to the DEBT SWAP-DEBT CONVERSION from the "Equity Collateral Interest" of the "interest owed to the Creditor (This Trust)" the U.S. Debt was around $6.460,380,745,789.28 Trillion Dollars. When the DEBT SWAP-DEBT CONVERSION was finally agreed on; May 21st, The U.S. Debt was $6.5 Trillion Dollars. The only way, Mr. President; The U.S. Debt can be paid is with "Gold, Gold Bullion, Gold Coin, Gold Collateral." We put up $6.5 Trillion Dollars "Equity" Gold Collateral as the Corporate Creditor, paying off what could be called "A RANSOM PAID IN FULL" to the Corporate Debtor i.e., The U.S. Federal Reserve, and U.S. Foreign Federal Reserve. You also know, Mr. President; This Trust has been the only thing, which has stopped the "February 22nd scheduled foreclosure on the United States by making it known Globally "We are the Creditor which by law, was required to be paid, prior to any "Foreclosure" proceedings" which was being forced by the estimated U.S. Foreign Debt amounting to excess of $400 Trillion Dollar "Counterfeit Instrument Debts" written on our Collateral, without Authorization, which were circulating in China, Malaysia, Indonesia, Japan, Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong, S. Africa, North Korea etc. When the $6.5 Trillion Dollar "Collateral" was accepted by the U.S. Fed. R., the U.S. Dept. of the Treasury, Signed by the White House, with the CIA in Spain taking it's cut of the action; The message conveyed back to the Trust was: "Will the Trust underwrite the $400 Trillion Dollar External U.S. Debt?" We now discover THE DEBT SWAP-DEBT CONVERSION-PAYMENT OF THE U.S. DEBT is "shoring up the stock markets" instead of getting the Infra-Structure back to the American Citizens, and instead of getting the stolen mortgages back to the American Citizens, along with the jobs, industry, manufacturing, health care, educational systems, hospitals, housing etc.; We find, as did the International Money Markets as of June 20th, Unexplained U.S. "Unlimited Resources backing the Stock Markets" which is unconscionable, to say the least. This Trust, Mr. President; Has stood back to back with the Constitutional Office of the President of the United States to: Preserve the Integrity of the Office of the President of the United States through all of this "BLIND SIDING" regarding the situation in Iraq, and pending "critical mass" status in North Korea, which are both directly associated with the $400 Trillion Dollars in Counterfeit Gold Instruments, which further, Mr. President; Underwrite the Al Qaeda, All Kada of S. Africa's state of Ghana, the Philippine Moro's etc. We have reported this "Violation of 18 U.S.C. Criminal Codes Sec. 471. COUNTERFEITING" to the U.S. Secret Service-U.S. Dept. of the Treasury, and to Sec. of State, Colin Powell. The U.S. Secret Service determined, they had "one job" and "one job only" being "Protecting the President of the United States." All things being equal; At what time does the American People "come under the protection, by those, under Oath of Office who have sworn by Oath, "To uphold, protect and defend, the Constitution (Law of the Land) of the United States, against all parties, foreign and domestic?" Mr. President. The UK Parliament Investigation by the Corner House (April 5,2001) also addressed the issues, which are related to those Counterfeit Instruments which effect the UK, the U.S. and Allies by Acts of Cronyism and Predatory Banking Practices. The UK Parliament acknowledged "The Law of the Land" had the ability to stop this International Banking, Financing and Economic Terrorism," specifically identifying the "Anti Corruption Act of 1906" and its ability to stop the Cronyism and Predatory Banking Practices. Mr. President; The United States has "Companion Laws" which walk hand in hand with the U.K. Anti-Corruption Act, those being; The Sherman Anti-Trust Act, the Clayton Act. Sec. 8, further supported by The Act of Congress Amendment to the Federal Reserve Act. December 24, 1919 Sec. 43. Sub Section 25., Which allows the U.S. Foreign Federal Reserve Banking to continue as long as it is: In compliance with Law. The Law at the time of that Act of Congress is the ONLY LAW governing that Act of Congress. Later Law and Rules and Regulations are not applicable. The Federal Reserve Banking Rules and Regulations are simply "in house Rules and Regulations" they have no force and effect against THE LAW OF THE LAND aka SUPREMACY CLAUSE. Mr. President. We, the TRUST; Paid the Ransom as the Corporate Creditor, to the Corporate Debtor, which was made in Good Faith. This constitutes: THE DEBT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS "PAID IN FULL." In closing, Mr. President; Abuse of those Powers given by Act of Congress, December 24, 1919, abused by the Federal Reserve acting "AS" the United States, with the full POWER of the United States, has been abused globally. This Abuse of Power has caused the American People to be placed in danger by the outright hatred brought against the American People by Abuse of Power, Cronyism and Predatory Banking Practices by those involved at the U.S. Federal Reserve. The U.S. and American Continental DEBT, Mr. President has been PAID IN FULL. We need your assistance and the assistance of the U.S. Congress in these matters regarding PAYMENT IN FULL OF THE U.S. DEBT and "Accountability" by the U.S. Federal Reserve and U.S. Foreign Federal Reserve "Practices." I remain- Yours truly, V.K. Durham, CEO-Signatory cc: Charles E. Grassley (IA), U.S. Senate Banking Committee ----- Original Message ----- This is a receipt for the mail you sent to This receipt verifies that the message has been displayed on the recipient's computer at 8/9/03 8:31 AM ATT00135.txt See Also: U.S. & AMERICAN CONTINENTAL "DEBT PAYMENT." SMILE, WORLD OPINION IS COMING YOUR WAY NOW! THREATENING EMAILS PUBLIC NOTICE of; $6.5 TRILLION DOLLAR COLLATERALIZED, U.S. DEBT PAYMENT LEO WANTA IS NOT THE ONLY INDIVIDUAL TRYING TO RESOLVE THE U.S. DEBT! Email Page Ask not what your Country can do for you, Ask what you can do for your Country. V.K. Durham, FAIR USE NOTICE This site may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of political, human rights, economic, democracy, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. http://www.theantechamber.net 2003 http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham/TrillionDollar2.html PUBLIC NOTICE of; MAY 26, 2004 "THREATENING TELEPHONE CALL" ; $6.5 TRILLION DOLLAR COLLATERALIZED, U.S. DEBT PAYMENT BY DEBT SWAP- DEBT CONVERSION Subject: PUBLIC NOTICE of THREATENING TELEPHONE CALL Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:03:15 -0700 From: "VK DURHAM" vkdtdht@....... To: .... CC: "K. Mack Robinson", "kamarulzaman annuar" Mr. K. Mack Robinson and Kamarulzaman Bin Annuar: Gentlemen. After being threatened yesterday if we did NOT RESCIND our statements on the inter-net which has caused Mr. Bin Annuar the current banking problems, we decided to RE-POST the relevant articles. http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham /PnThreatPhoneCall.html Further considering Mr. Kamarulzaman Bin Annuar's position with the UK and US Federal Reserve Banking Systems as the head of Euro Clear and Clear Stream and having been the individual (per Mr. Bin Annuar) who was put into his position of cleaning up the Counterfeit Gold Derivatives in UBS, ANB AMRO, Fleet Boston etc.. and; He was so big they could not touch him in regards to the agreed upon on May 21, 2003 and Sent via DHL OVERNIGHT to Mr. Bin Annuar (documents affixed) TENDERED $6.5 TRILLION DOLLAR "GOLD" U.S. & CONTINENTAL DEBT SWAP-DEBT CONVERSION, Along with another $6.5 Trillion Dollars Gold Collateral instrument for "Global Humanitarian Purposes" further accompanied with a $1 Billion Dollar Instrument to be split equally between Mr. Bin Annuar, K. Mack Robinson and Jerry Hansard, and THE DURHAM TRUST for REV UP MONIES, offices etc, and another $500 Million Dollar Instrument for "clearing every one's economic problems".. We were actually uncertain which article we were being threatened over... So, We decided to RE-POST on both websites THE FACTS. Its not nice to threaten, especially when so much has been STOLEN. V.K. Durham, CEO-Signatory ----- Original Message ----- From: VK DURHAM PUBLIC NOTICE of; THREATENING TELEPHONE CALL asking to RESCIND the statements made in this formerly posted articles: http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham /TrillionDollar.html By: V.K. Durham Yesterday, May 26, 2004, We (The Durham Holding Trust) received a telephone call from Mr. K. Mack Robinson which asked me to rescind my statements made in the before-mentioned articles, because it had been discovered by one of the Banks associated with the GOLD TRADER known as Kamarulzaman bin Annuar, and the article was causing "Kamal" problems in the banking circles. K. Mack (Robinson) commenced by telling myself and a Trustee who had been connected in on the conversation [quote] K.Mack Robinson: "We, myself and Jerry Hansard flew to Europe and visited with Kamal (Kamarulzamam Bin Annuar), visiting "Kamal's" Luxury Hotels, Lavish Homes, and on, and on (building up the WEALTH & POWER scenario). Your Article (previously noted) was discovered by one of the Banks "Kamal" does business with, and it is causing "Kamal" a lot of problems in his Banking Circles. Will you send a letter RESCINDING your article?" V.K. Durham: NO! I will not rescind. The article is TRUE backed with documentation. The THREE of you stole one hell of a lot of money from THIS TRUST. You stole over $13 Trillion, 1 Billion, 500 Million dollars in Gold, to be exact. The $6.5 Trillion Dollar Debt Swap, Debt Conversion for payment of the U.S. & Continental Debt has never showed up as "PAID" even though we were assured "The U.S. Treasury had signed off; The Fed. R. had signed off; The Rothschilds in London had signed off; The White House had signed off, and was glad to sign off; The CIA in Spain signed off. NOW! Where in the hell is the U.S. Debt Payment?!, And WHERE IN THE HELL IS ALL THE MONEY YOU OWE THIS TRUST!?" K. Mack Robinson: We offered you $50 Million Dollars, and you would not take it!" V.K. Durham: NO! You stated it was for my own good if I would sign your faxed documents, and if I signed the documents you would transfer $50 Million Dollars into the Trust Bank Account! The Documents which were to be "signed in my best interest" was A TAKE OVER OF THE DURHAM HOLDING TRUST! Don't argue with me about that one! The Documents were filed of public record. K. Mack Robinson: If you know what is good for you, you will RESCIND your article on the internet! Kamal is a very powerful person! Of course, so are you. But, if you do not RESCIND your article, you had best get into a corner, get down on your knees and "pray." V.K. Durham: It will be a cold day in hell before I RESCIND THE TRUTH. The TRUTH is; You bastards STOLD $13 TRILLION, 1 BILLION and 500 MILLION DOLLARS OF "TRUST COLLATERAL" and now you have the balls to THREATEN ME!? GO GET "F"ed! He (K.Mack Robinson) then asked me if I still had his phone number. I said; I doubt it. He asked me if I had his email address. I said I doubt it. Well, give me your email address, he said. You have it somewhere, I responded. K. Mack. Robinson: In other words you are going to make me hunt for it! I said, Yes! Further stating; I acted in Good Faith when I put up that collateral. ALL THREE OF YOU BASTARDS acted in Bad Faith! K.Mack Robinson: Well! V.K., You gotta act in Good Faith! V.K. Durham: I did! You bastards are the ones who stold over $13 Trillion Dollars in Gold Collateral, and used it for other than it was intended. You owe me and the American People of this Continent one hell of a lot of money! Now. K. Mack; I will not RESCIND the Truth! It is just that simple. The Truth is the Truth. The Truth is backed up by supportive documents, even if KAMAL refused to sign "the agreement after he received the COLLATERAL" (which he laughed and told Jerry Hansard he had the collateral and did not have to sign the agreement). As for RESCINDING my statements posted on the inter-net; It will be a cold day in hell when that happens, so; Don't hold your breath! K. Mack Robinson: You don't know how powerful Kamal is! You had better go get in the corner and get down on your knees and Pray! V.K. Durham: No. K. Mack, it is the other way around. International Banking Investigations are going on all over the globe at this time, to find out what has been going on. You three stold over 13 Trillion Dollars Gold Collateral from THIS TRUST. You owe us one hell of a lot of money! You owe the American People on this Continent one hell of a lot of money! It is time the THREE OF YOU went to a corner, got down on your knees and "prayed." That is just about the content as near as we can recall of yesterdays THREATENING CALL ASKING US TO RESCIND OUR STATEMENTS MADE IN THE BEFORE MENTIONED ARTICLES http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham /TrillionDollar.html . [BACK OVER TO WHAT HAPPENED..(2)] U.S. & AMERICAN CONTINENTAL "DEBT PAYMENT." DHL PACKAGE Number 7642371461 See Also: WHAT HAPPENED TO U.S. & LATIN AMERICAN DEBT PAYMENTS? NOW! THREATENING EMAILS SMILE, WORLD OPINION IS COMING YOUR WAY Ask not what your Country can do for you, Ask what you can do for your Country. V.K. Durham, 2003 http://www.theantechamber.net/V_...am/PnThreatPhoneCall.html SMILE, WORLD OPINION IS COMING YOUR WAY READERS; If you will notice the email from KAMARULZAMAN BIN ANNUAR(Click) it is timed and dated; May 21, 2003 Wed. @ 10:44 A.M. The CONCLUSIONS of the negotiations on the U.S. & LATIN AMERICAN DEBT PAYMENT call came in later on in the day from Jerry Hansard and KAMARULZAMAN BIN ANNUAR. The amount required was alleged "agreed on." The instruments were drafted and faxed later on in the evening, on or about 8:00 P.M. May 23, 2003. Subsequently they were DHL OVERNIGHT expressed to MR. KAMARULZAMAN BIN ANNUAR to the specified and designated address identified on the Shipping Label listed previously on www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham /PnThreatPhoneCall.html notice of THREATENING PHONE CALLS from K. MACK ROBINSON. I do not appreciate or like these THREATS! Nor do I appreciate the coercive, intimidative, lies put out by Jerry Hansard and his associates. THE U.S. & LATIN AMERICAN DEBTS were "PAID." We just have to find out "where" the MONEY WENT. We can establish after KAMARULZAMAN BIN ANNUAR'S assurances: "The U.S. Treasury Signed off, The U.S. Fed. R. signed off, The WHITE HOUSE SIGNED OFF and was happy to do so, Rothschilds at London House signed off, The CIA in SPAIN got their cut, and signed off" Per: Kamarulzaman Bin Annuar.. we find by June 16, 2003 everyone in the global markets "could not figure out where all the U.S. Unlimited Funds in the Stock Markets were coming from." It is time those "so called American Patriots" get off their rumps and commence asking questions, and making this "very public" and commence applying this from JFK: "ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU! ASK "WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY!" I cannot fight this battle alone. This is a problem of Organized Corruption at its highest levels of our U.S. Fed. Government and those "associated" and tied in "tightly" with the U.S. Fed. Government. Where are the "so called Patriots" as we watch systematic destruction of Manufacturing, Industry, Jobs, Retirement Benefits, Health Care, Education, Agriculture, our American Products and take over of our country? We tried to resolve this with the "OUTSTANDING, PRIMARY CREDITOR OF THE UNITED STATES" paying the DEBTOR the PAYMENT OF THE U.S. & LATIN AMERICAN DEBTS. It appears; These PAYMENTS were used for purposes other than intended. What is a given; After the DEBT PAYMENTS the TRUST has been BLACK BALLED in the U.S. Banking Systems of the U.S. Fed. R./UST. It amazes me constantly, that a 68 year old Grandmother has gumption to stand up for We, the People and the American Continent, and be threatened, coerced, lied about, told to "Go git in the corner, git down on her knees and pray"...(which is nothing more than a threat that she is going to be "taken out"); While the "good Patriots" sit silent! We, the People, have watched the very essence of every thing this nation has historically stood for in the representative purpose and intent of our Country be degraded, slandered and just outright DESTROYING THE INTEGRITY of our Constitutional Form of Government recently in this "Iraq War" Violation of Human Rights and Violation of the Rules set forth by THE GENEVA CONVENTION. Americans, and ALL FREE People globally, I have this to say: "I WILL DIE ON MY FEET, FIGHTING LIKE HELL FOR ALL OF YOU! BUT; I SURE AS HELL "REFUSE TO GO TO THE CORNER. GIT DOWN ON MY KNEES AND PRAY" as one of these Bastards puts a bullet in the back of my head!" V.K. Durham, CEO-Signatory ----- Original Message ----- Jack McCreery, Legal Department, Security Exchange Commission. Jack. You know and I know our Collateral Instruments are excluded by SEC Rule 144a from SEC Rules and Regulations. We do not solicit investors, nor are we selling "stock"... We are Private Bond Holders. THE SEC is going to find it necessary to "answer" some questions. I am being threatened by the parties who stole $13 Trillion, 1 Billion Five Hundred Million Gold Dollars in Collateral. $6.5 Trillion was designated for PAYMENT OF THE U.S.& LATIN AMERICAN DEBT. I am getting a bit weary of threats and intimidation from people STEALING COLLATERAL and using it for purposes other than intended, and then THREATEN AND INTIMIDATE "ME" AND MY PEOPLE! You had best read the following. Be certain to open up the sites. V.K. Durham, CEO-Signatory You lied to us. You misrepresented yourselves to us. You people stole our Collateral. You have threatened us. You stole from the American People of the American Continent. You also stole from all the unfortunates on this globe who needed the help of this Trust. You stole from the African People who needed our assistance in setting up the MASH type hospital units, feeding little starving children, making certain they had housing and education and so forth. You stole from the American Indians. YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO THREATEN ME!? I don't like to be threatened. K. MACK. When you called the other day telling "us" [quote] "You had better go git in the corner and git down on your knees and pray" not once, but 5 or 6 times; This could only be associated with a similar set of circumstances that would have happened in the South years ago when young or old Black People were told "GIT DOWN ON YOUR KNEES AND PRAY, BOY!," just before a bullet was placed in the back of his head. I know all of you are POWERFUL MEN with connections all the way to THE WHITE HOUSE and THE U.S. TREASURY & FED. RESERVE. I have already watched my husband and his men SYSTEMATICALLY "TAKEN OUT-MURDERED" by these "Powerful Connection Organizations" of the WHITE HOUSE along with the U.S. Treasury and Fed. R. If you have the idea that I AM AFRAID OF YOU and YOUR CONNECTIONS and will put up with your THREATS, INTIMIDATION TACTICS; THINK AGAIN! www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham /NowThreateningEmails.html You owe the TRUST and the AMERICAN PEOPLE one hell of a lot of money! Where is it!? V.K. Durham, CEO-Signatory Ask not what your Country can do for you, Ask what you can do for your Country. V.K. Durham, 2003 www.theantechamber.net/V_...ileWorldOpinIncoming.html Isa 10:24 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD of hosts, O my people that dwellest in Zion, be not afraid of the Assyrian: he shall smite thee with a rod, and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt. Isa 10:26 And the LORD of hosts shall stir up a scourge for him according to the slaughter of Midian at the rock of Oreb: and [as] his rod [was] upon the sea, so shall he lift it up after the manner of Egypt. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa010.html#24 ....Let my people go..... http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Exd/Exd005.html#1 Eze 34:26 And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in his season; there shall be showers of blessing. Eze 34:27 And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the earth shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land, and shall know that I [am] the LORD, when I have broken the bands of their yoke, and delivered them out of the hand of those that served themselves of them.
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By: V.K. Durham
8/9/03
U.S. Congressman Ron Paul ;
U.S. Congressman Steve King ;
Chuck Grassley
The White House
Washington, District of Columbia
cc: U.S. Congressman, Steve King (IA)
cc: U.S. Congressman, Ron Paul
From: "V.K. DURHAM" To: "V.K. DURHAM" Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:31 AM
Subject: Read: $6.5 Trillion Dollar Collateralized, U.S. Debt Payment by
Debt Swap-Debt Conversion
President@WhiteHouse.gov; "U.S. Congressman Ron Paul"
Rep.Paul@mail.house.gov; "U.S. Congressman Steve King"
Steve.King@mail.house.gov; "Chuck Grassley"
Chuck_Grassley@grassley.senate.gov at 8/9/03 8:26 AM
By V.K. Durham
2.25.04
http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham/UsDebtPaymt.html
By: V.K. Durham
5.29.04
http://www.theantechamber.net/V_...ileWorldOpinIncoming.html
from Jerry Hansard
(K. Mack, Kamarulzaman Bin Annuar)
By V.K. Durham
5.28.04
http://www.theantechamber.net/V_...NowThreateningEmails.html
THREATENING TELEPHONE CALL
By V.K. Durham
5.27.04
http://www.theantechamber.net/V_...am/PnThreatPhoneCall.html
BY DEBT SWAP- DEBT CONVERSION (Part 1)
By V.K. Durham
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http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham/TrillionDollar.html
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http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham/WantaNotTheOnly.htm
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THREATENING TELEPHONE CALL
By V.K. Durham
5/27/04
To: ......
Cc: kamarulzaman annuar ; K. Mack Robinson
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 7:39 AM
Subject:
MAY 26, 2004 "THREATENING TELEPHONE CALL" ;$6.5 TRILLION DOLLAR COLLATERALIZED, U.S. DEBT PAYMENT BY DEBT SWAP- DEBT CONVERSION
By V.K. Durham
2/25/04
http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham /UsDebtPaymt.html
http://www.theantechamber.net/VkDocuments /UsDebtPaymt/UsDebtPaymt6.html
6.3.04
By V.K. Durham
http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham /WhatHappenedDebtpaymt.html
from Jerry Hansard
(K. Mack, Kamarulzaman Bin Annuar)
By: V.K. Durham
5.28.04
http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham /NowThreateningEmails.html
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http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham /SmileWorldOpinIncoming.html
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From: VK DURHAM
To: Jack McCreery
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Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 7:03 AM
Subject: Fw: Smile, world opinion is coming your way
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Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 6:46 AM
Subject: Smile, world opinion is coming your way
Gentlemen. We have received threatening and disturbing Email from your friend "Jerry Hansard"..
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#1. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)
In a paragraph, or two, can you boil all this down for us? Thanks, much.
Pfft. There's an easier way to do all of this -and- the Supremes have to rule 9-0 in favor of the States. Call an Article V Convention. Propose a single nine-word amendment: "The Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed." The states ratify it and you're done.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
Thanks, much. hang on....i'm still thinking out loud, and i think i just posted an addendum to the wrong dang thread....let me try to sort this out...
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Thanks. There is no hurry, as I've still got a ton of laundry to deal with...
------------------------ what's going on here..... VKD; SOMETHINGS UP: CORPORATE US IS BANKRUPT Posted By: Striderus Date: Sunday, 20 April 2008, 1:07 a.m. SOMETHINGS UP. The PUBLIC DEBT of the States of the Union was paid when the $6.5 Trillion DEBT SWAP-DEBT CONVERSION was sent in for PAYMENT OF DEBT.. The $6.5 TRILLION was paid to keep the FEDERAL CORPORATIONS from falling back on the states of the Union and the People for payments... Currently; The Corporation of the United States is 'down the tubes'.. The Corporate's cannot fall back on the States because those DEBTS were paid.. as were LATIN AMERICA'S DEBTS.. The entire Global Banking Community is aware of this DEBT SWAP-DEBT CONVERSION.. they have been going over SOVEREIGN DEBT INSTRUMENTS owned by this Trust..which are not even challengable.. The COUNTERFEITING of COLLATERALIZED (US) DEBT OBLIGATIONS have been proven.. Now the 'big boys' have to sort this 'CORPORATE MESS' out themselves.. I looked up U.S. House Member, James Traficant, Jr. of Ohio address to the U.S. House of Representatives..back on March 17, 1993 .. It might be a good time to let the people know what Congressman Jim Traficant Jr. warned the U.S . House Members of.. which was IGNORED..by all..to the Member. Read the following: Subject: .The Bankruptcy of The United States United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303 THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!! Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House: "Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner's report that will lead to our demise. It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only. The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States." ........" www.rumormillnews.com/cgi....cgi?noframes;read=122822 Chinese Government is Top Foreign Holder of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Bonds "....As politicians call for taxpayer bailouts and a government takeover of troubled mortgage lenders Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, FreedomWorks would like to point out that a bailout is a transfer of possibly hundreds of billions of U.S. tax dollars to sophisticated investors and governments overseas. The top five foreign holders of Freddie and Fannie long-term debt are China, Japan, the Cayman Islands, Luxembourg, and Belgium. In total foreign investors hold over $1.3 trillion in these agency bonds, according to the U.S. Treasury's most recent "Report on Foreign Portfolio Holdings of U.S. Securities." FreedomWorks President Matt Kibbe commented, "The prospectus for every GSE bond clearly states that it is not backed by the United States government. That's why investors holding agency bonds already receive a significant risk premium over Treasuries." "A bailout at this stage would be the worst possible outcome for American taxpayers and mortgage holders, who have been paying a risk premium to these foreign investors. It would change the rules of the game retroactively and would directly subsidize the risks taken by sophisticated foreign investors." "A bailout of GSE bondholders would be perhaps the greatest taxpayer rip-off in American history. It is bad economics and you can be sure it is terrible politics." ....." freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...gi?ArtNum=83511&Disp=5#C5 Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were created by Congress to help more Americans buy homes. Now their shaky condition threatens the entire housing market. NEW YORK (Fortune) -- They own or guarantee $5 trillion worth of mortgages - nearly half of all the country's outstanding home loan debt-and they're crashing. Big time. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are struggling with an investor loss of confidence so great that, while they're unlikely to go under, they could conceivably see their ability to function impaired. That would wreak yet more havoc on an already wrecked housing market- making loans tougher to come by and possibly pushing hundreds of billions of dollars in cost onto U.S. taxpayers. How could the companies end up in such awful straits? Given the way they were created and run, a better question might be: how could they not? The two companies are so-called government-sponsored enterprises, created by Congress in 1938 (Fannie) and 1970 (Freddie) to help more Americans buy houses. Their mandate is to maintain a market for mortgages - buying loans from banks, repackaging them as bonds, and selling those securities to investors with a guarantee that they will be paid. This makes lending more tempting for banks because Fannie and Freddie take on risks like missed payments, defaults and swings in interest rates. But the companies are also publicly traded, with the usual mandate of trying to maximize profits for shareholders. That effort, of course, involves risk, but as quasi-government programs, they've long carried an implicit guarantee that the feds wouldn't let them fail..... Very special treatment The market and ratings agencies have treated Fannie and Freddie as bulletproof, even though the actual business of dealing with interest sensitive loans is very risky. This is in large part because of the very special perks granted to the mortgage giants, but to no one else. Each may borrow up to $2.25 billion direct from the Treasury. They are exempt from state and local income taxes and from Securities and Exchange Commission registration requirements and fees. And they can use the Federal Reserve as their bank. ......" freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=83488 Can anyone sort this out? **** HAS the debt been paid off, and are they trying to tie us to the debt again???? Is CorpUSA dead in the water, yet? Can we call off the war on Iraq, and on the Palestinians, and Iran, and the American people, and everyone else in the world, now???
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause, dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only. The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States." ........" If Rothschild et al signed off on the debt, what are those people still doing in our houses in DC??? Is this what Rockefeller meant when he said Americans would soon be free? Somebody please explain to my pea brain what is going on. ================ What does all this mean, if anything? Are we free??? Or is that too much to hope for?
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
okay, near as i can figure, it looks as if this woman and her husband redeemed us some kind of way....[i remember reading about her a couple of years ago on Stew Webb or Tom Flocco....it all sounds crazy, but i have a feeling it's not]..... see the guy's comment in the beginning: ".... These details are verifiable from her website antechamber or one can go on Rumor Mill News and read her postings. The upshot is her claim is to a gold contract from the l9th century that has been used as collateral by the Fed/CIA and her further claims is in regard to the murder/execution torture of her husband. Economics today is known as a dismal science and I see clearly why this is so....." If sounds like they took her "money" and started using it in the stock market. All this financial wrangling is way over my head, but this is how i understand it. they don't want [or can't] give it back, and started threatening her. "he will raise up the rod against thee after the manner of Egypt." I confess, I don't totally understand it. I don't know what is referred to by the 19th century gold contract. The only thing that comes to my mind is this: "....In 1933 the United States put its insurance policy into place with House Joint Resolution 192 (2) and recorded it in the Congressional Record. It was not required to be promulgated in the Federal Register. An Executive Order issued on April 5, 1933 paving the way for the withdrawal of gold in the United States. Representative Louis T. McFadden brought formal charges on May 23, 1933 against the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Bank system, the Comptroller of the Currency, and the Secretary of the United States Treasury (Congressional Record May 23, 1933 page 4055-4058). HJR 192 passed on June 3, 1933. Mr. MaFadden claimed on June 10, 1933: "Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks…" HJR 192 is the insurance policy that protects the legislators from conviction for fraud and treason against the American people. It also protects the American people from damages caused by the actions of the United States. HJR 192 provided that the one with the gold paid the bills. It removed the requirement that the United States subjects and employees had to pay their debts with gold. It actually prohibited the inclusion of a clause in all subsequent contracts that would require payment in gold. It also cancelled the clause in every contract written prior to June 5, 1933, that required an obligation to be paid in gold - retroactively. It provided that the United States subjects and employees could use any type of coin and currency to discharge a public debt as long as it was in use in the normal course of business in the United States. For a time, United States Notes were the currency used to discharge debts, but later the Federal Reserve and the United States provided a new medium of exchange through paper notes, and debt instruments that could be passed on to a debtor's creditors to discharge the debtor's debts. That same currency is available to us to use to discharge public debts. In the 1950's the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) was presented to the States as a means of unifying the generally accepted procedures for handling the new legal system of dealing with commercial fictions as though they were real. Security instruments replaced substance as collateral for debts. Security instruments could be supported by presumptive contracts. Debt instruments with collateral, and accommodating parties, could be used instead of money. Money and the need for money was disappearing, and a uniform system of laws had to be put in place to allow the courts to uphold the security instruments that depended on commercial fictions as a basis for compelling payment or performance. All this was accomplished by the mid 1960's. .... Profits were made by the deceivers by pledging the registered property in commercial markets, but the profits do not belong to the deceivers. The profits belong to the owners of the things. That is always the people. The corporation only shows ownership of paper - titles to things. The substance cannot appear in the fiction. [[Watch the movie Last Action Hero and watch the confusion created when they try to mix substance and fiction.]] Sometimes the fiction is made to look very much like substance, but fiction can never become substance. It is impossibility. The profits from all the registered things had to be put into trust (constructive) for the benefit of the owners. If the profits were put into the general fund of the United States and not into separate trusts for the owners, the scheme would represent fraud. The profits for each owner could not be commingled. If the owner failed to use his available remedy (fictional credits held in a constructive trust account, fund, or financial ledger) to benefit from the profits, it would not be the fault of the deceivers. If the owner failed to learn the law that would open the door to his remedy, it would not be the fault of the deceivers. The owner is responsible for learning the law, so he understands that the profits from his things are available for him to discharge debts or charges brought against his public person by the United States. If the United States has the "gold", the United States pays the bills (from the trust account, fund, or financial ledger). The definition of "fund" is money set aside to pay a debt. The fund is there to discharge the public debts attributed to the United States subjects, but ultimately back to the accommodating parties - the American people. The national debt that is owed is to the owners of the registered things - the American people, as well as to other creditors. If the United States owes a debt to the owner of the thing, and the owner is presumed (by accommodation) to owe a public debt to the United States, the logical thing is to ask the United States to discharge that public debt from the trust fund. The way for the United States to get around having to pay the public debts for the people is to claim the owner cannot be an owner if he agreed to be the accommodating party for a debtor person. If the people are truly the principle, then they know how to handle their financial and political affairs, ULNESS they have never been taught. If the owner admits by his actions out of ignorance, that he is an accommodating party, he has taken on the debtor's liabilities without getting consideration in exchange. Here lies the fiction again. The owner of the thing does not have to knowingly agree to be the accommodating party for the debtor person; he just has to act like he agreed. That is easy if he has a choice of going to jail or signing for the debtor person. The presumption that he is the accommodating party is strong enough for the courts to hold the owner of the thing liable for a tax on the thing he actually owns. Debtors may have the use of certain things, but the things belong to the creditors. The creditor is the master. The debtor is the servant....." Maybe it had something to do with this. I just don't know, but I find it very intriguing, and it brings to mind what Rockefeller said about us being free soon. I had no idea when I read that, what he was talking about. Maybe this is it.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Well, do you think we could get two thirds of both Houses to vote themselves out of a job? "no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate." Ha! The South was deprived of its suffrage under Lincoln. The Congress has been unlawful since the Civil War. Well, now, God said He would catch them in their craftiness, and said this vine that superimposed itself on the Godly vine [Ezekiel 17:7-10] would WITHER where it grew. It sure would be nice if that is what we are seeing.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Thank you for taking another shot at it. It sounds like our 'certificate of title' to our cars, or our 'warranty deeds' to our properties. We can use and enjoy them, as long as we pay the tribute for same...but they really are not ours. Keep digging, and keep us posted, thanks, cheers.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Act For A National Bank National Bank Act- June 3, 1864 An Act to provide a National Currency, secured by a Pledge of United States Bonds, and to provide for the Circulation and Redemption thereof... www.multied.com/documents/Nationalbank2.html National Bank Act (1864): Major Acts of Congress. ... As a result, the gold standard, which gave value to the national currency, was eventually abandoned. ... www.enotes.com/major-acts-congress/national-bank-act
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
They won't have a choice. Article V The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
Untrue! Upon secession, the Southern States ceased to be part of the Union and thus were no longer party to the Constitution of their own free will. The Confederacy ended its own suffrage when they withdrew from the compact between the States under the Constitution. By their own consent, they were deprived of suffrage and only gained it back upon re-admission to the Union. A State that is not part of the Union has no representation in the Congress.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
Illinois then proceeded along with the U.S. Federal Reserve Banking Systems, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (U.S. Dept. of the Treasury) to perpetrated the worst acts that can be committed against the people. Why do you post jibberish like this? Do you think you are doing some service to liberty by posting ungrammatical ramblings from fringe nut websites?
So you're telling me that a trust somewhere has $206 QUINTILLION dollars sitting around? I'm not sure that there's that much money in the entire world.
It only seems like a lot until you start spending it.
He who is not grateful for the good things he has would not be happy with what he wishes he had.
OH! I didn't read it closely enough! Well, then, that's great news! Thanks!
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
I stand corrected again, I think. I'm not sure what I was thinking of, and am too tired to think about it right now. I'll have to contemplate it tomorrow.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Sorry you only see gibberish. She seems to have a bone or two to pick with the State of Illinois, as some further reading reveals, and if what she says is true, she is well justified. Truth is often stranger than fiction, and I'm still reading the documents and whatnot she has posted on the net, and I'm not convinced she is a nut. You have every right to believe what you please.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Thanks. I was wondering how one should read that. I guess that's why they "settled", if her story is in fact true. I'm still checking it out.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Watch THE BE GOOD TANYAS perform "IT'S NOT HAPPENING" And, when exactly did that happen?
Watch THE BE GOOD TANYAS perform "IT'S NOT HAPPENING" I did some research. Some of what Durham states appears to be true. The certificate never belonged to Durham. The Ekkers don't appear to have been associated with the CIA or Naval Intelligence (Doris Ekker is deceased, 2006). However, the Ekkers were fraudsters. With their daughter and son-in-law, they made medical claims for dietary supplements (GaiaCol, AquaGaia, and others) and were found guilty in 2002 for selling unapproved drugs. The Ekkers apparently received the gold certificate from a man that Durham claims was her late husband, whom she only claimed to be so after his death. The Ekkers setup a foundation in the Philippines called "Global Alliance Investment Association." They then became trustees of "Don Esteban Benitez Tallano & Don Gregorio Madrigal ACOP Foundation." Mr. Ekker attempted to claim 40% of the assets of the latter foundation through false Public Notices and was expelled. Certificate Timeline PDF document I've found nothing "official" denoting an agreement by the FED or US Treasury to pay anything. The Ekkers never filed a Deed of Assignment with the Tallano Foundation; the gold was to be collateral. Eddy Jo Ekker has apparently been giving some support to the Moro National Liberation Front. I'm guessing that he thinks that he can get some gold if there's a revolution. He emailed a 3-page letter calling for "nationals" to "save" the country. pdf
We cannot afford peace at any price. - Newt Gingrich, May 29, 1998
Pretty much as I figured. This broad is right in there on the nuttiness scale between that "Ghost Troop" guy Eric May and David Icke.
Do you really need a history lesson?
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
Yes, please. Tell me exactly when Southerners were re-enfranchised as you understand it. Apparently you believe that a voluntary union of sovereign states somehow became mandatory and the right of secession was mysteriously forfeit. But, let's skip all that while you hang yourself on this point; When did the South re-enter the union as fully enfranchised states? Keep in mind that all laws and amendments passed prior to that with puppet and negro government's installed (and whites could not own property or vote) in Southern states cannot be valid. If you want to be a smart ass be prepared to validate it.
Watch THE BE GOOD TANYAS perform "IT'S NOT HAPPENING" Not once did I say it was voluntary. I used the word "conquered" and am using it again here. Is there a point you'd like to make or are you going to deliberately ignore what I've said again?
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
Please enlighten me. How could Georgia ratify the 13th amendment in 1865 if Reconstruction lasted until 1877? If the remaining three Republican state governments immediately collapsed and many Reconstruction laws were immediately repealed once federal control was removed from the South, then how can anyone argue that laws and amendments supposedly passed and ratified during that dark period when the federal govt had boots on Southern necks are now lawful? It is a fundamental principle of Anglo-American jurisprudence that "any act committed by me against my will is not my act." This includes all amendments allegedly ratified while federal rifles were aimed at The South and Negro and carpetbagger politicians were serving as puppet occupation governments. And, does it not logically follow that if as you put it "the Southern States ceased to be part of the Union and thus were no longer party to the Constitution of their own free will." IF the South can be forced to subjugate to an omnipotent federal power as punishment for exercising "free will" then you obviously have your head jammed in your ass when you use such a phrase to justify denying Suffrage at any time for any reason? History lesson indeed.
Watch THE BE GOOD TANYAS perform "IT'S NOT HAPPENING" Is there a point you'd like to make or are you going to deliberately ignore what I've said again? The (ostensibly) Northern state in which I reside, Delaware, did not abolish slavery until after the cessation of hostilities and the passage of the 13th amendment in 1865. DE held slaves all during the war and voted against the amendment as an infringement of states rights. So, tell me, why was The South Conquered and upon what moral authority do you operate now when you make such asinine remarks?
Watch THE BE GOOD TANYAS perform "IT'S NOT HAPPENING" They won't have a choice. Oh, I see from your posts that you're one of those idiots who think that if cops break the law they "won't have any choice" but to arrest themselves? Disregard my posts to you. Go back to Fairie land where snakes swallow themselves whenever they get to be nuisances.
Watch THE BE GOOD TANYAS perform "IT'S NOT HAPPENING" Sorry, you're in fairy land, not me. Here is a quick summation and explanation of why what was done was Constitutional and why your view on the matter is WRONG. The Southern States *withdrew* from the Union and recalled their delegations to Washington DC. At that time, no quorum existed in Congress so business stopped. Are you with me so far? Lincoln gamed the firing on Fort Sumter to give him the Constitutional Authority to declare the Southern States "in Rebellion" which kicked in a State of Emergency. The common definition of "rebellion" means "taking up arms against" which is what was needed to get things rolling. The Constitution permits itself to be suspended in a State of Emergency. Thus, the Southern States aced themselves out by firing on Fort Sumter. Had the firing on Fort Sumter not taken place AND had the Southern States NOT recalled their delegations AND had they not openly declared secession, there would have been a political stalemate that would have caused all business in Congress in Washington DC to grind to a halt. But there would never have been a military solution since, strictly speaking, the Southern States would not have been in a state of insurrection or rebellion because NO SHOTS WOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED. After the States In Rebellion (and they had to be classified as such to bring in the military solution) were subdued and conquered, they were placed under Military Rule. The Constitution does not specify HOW to deal with rebellions. This is a key point and one that you missed entirely. With the State of Emergency AND the Rebellion, everything goes out the window. Thus, the Southern States lost their Constitutional right to representation under the State of Emergency caused by their being declared 'States in Rebellion'. At that point, even if they had sent a delegation, it could be refused. Note that there are other rules for the House and Senate to eject members. A member may be ejected from Congress, but the seat is still there even if it is empty which can make a quorum impossible. The State of Emergency superceded the Right of Representation. The Reconstruction Congress then cut a deal with the Southern States, as all conquerors do. Ratify and agree to what we dictate or the Military Rule stays in place. The Southern States AGREED to the terms imposed to get the Union Army out of their territory. The AGREEMENT of the Southern States made it legal. You cannot go in after the fact and after an AGREEMENT is signed and say "Wait! This isn't legal!" because the act of AGREEING to it makes it so. That is why your argument fails. It is also why an Article V Convention is legal and Constitutional and likely the only way NOW to curb things. Unless, of course, another State of Emergency comes in and the Constitution is suspended, but that's a hazard of working with the Constitution as it currently stands.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
Now here is why the Congress has little choice in an Article V Convention. I do wish you'd actually READ the bloody Constitution for once. Article V allows Congress to propose Amendments. Under an Article V Convention called by the States, Congress is not involved at all. Not one vote, not one member, zip, zero, nada, nothing. Thus, if the Congress is not involved, how do they get a vote at all in the matter? If you can explain that one, then you'll have a point, but because you can't, then you don't understand an Article V Convention at all.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
Thank you for the excellent information. I'm only beginning to check it all out, or at least the parts I could retrieve [I can't get pdf files, and have to get the cache version, which doesn't always give me the entire page]. I have a long way to go, and while the Phoenix Journal makes her sound like a nut, after searching some other pages of the Phoenix Journal, I have to wonder what their real part is in this. Right now, the whole thing is a bunch of interesting, disjuntled pieces of information that I can't really make heads or tails of. However, I have to wonder about anything that has the word "Phoenix" in its name, and just pulled up a link that makes me wonder even more: Welcome to the official source for the Phoenix Journals and CONTACT newspaper (and predecessors) on the Internet, documenting the birth of the Phoenix. This record did NOT suddenly come to an end in 1999 as the MISLEADERS and PRETENDERS would have you believe--but rather, is vital and ongoing as demonstrated in the pages of CONTACT newspaper up until the present date. STAY “TUNED” FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS AS THE PHOENIX RISES. This site is the official source of the written records of the evolution of God’s Plan for the New Millennium, from 1990 to the present. The Phoenix Journals provide these records of the Phoenix Project in convenient journal (book) format, while the CONTACT newspaper (currently publishing on a bi-weekly schedule) acts as an information conduit for interested parties. These records have been scribed principally in the names of Gyeorgos Ceres Hatonn (GCH) and Sananda. God’s Plan 2000 (God’s Plan for the New Millennium) Sananda means “One with God” and is the new name for the one who experienced as Immanuel (Jmmanuel), most commonly referred to as “Jesus”. The majority of the information in the Journals has been scribed in the name of Gyeorgos Ceres Hatonn, commonly referenced as GCH, who has also been known as “George the dragonslayer”. We invite you to read the truth contained within these messages and to discern the validity of the information for yourself. While certain miscreants have literally TAKEN the records through March 1999 and put them out in the public domain for their own purposes, only at PHOENIX SOURCE will you find the complete and uninterrupted record of the ongoing project for reclamation of this long-suffering planet, INCLUDING all of the published writings of Commander Hatonn from March 1999 through March 2006 when Doris Ekker, his beloved scribe, returned to be with our Heavenly Father. If you find this information resource to be of value, we ask you to donate as you are able so we may be able to publish the rest of the record. Some day the Phoenix Journals and Contact newspaper will be widely recognized for what they are. Meanwhile, we hope you appreciate this official source of the Phoenix Journals and assist in the publication of the unpublished Phoenix Project records. THANK YOU for your interest and ongoing support. Phoenix, Contact, Journals, Source, newspaper, Phoenix Journals, Contact newspaper Please contact us with questions or comments: http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/ Its logo and mission are too reminiscent of this website: http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/mission_statement2.htm for me not to notice. Furthermore, the Phoenix was the preferred symbol of the Masonic conspirators that wrested this country from its Christian owners, and foisted the US Government on us. Their plan was from their founding, to destroy this country, and set up their nwo on its ashes (the Phoenix rising from the ashes). See: DEATH OF THE PHOENIX. FINAL ACT FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. www.watch.pair.com/death-phoenix.html DEATH OF THE PHOENIX. FINAL ACT FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. ACT VI. THE NEW REFORMATION. SCENE I. The United States. Enter Scorpio, The Supreme Court ... www.watch.pair.com/new-reformation.html An excerpt from one of the above reveals the following related piece of information. [Recall that one of the things VK Durham most rails against is the Federal Reserve]: ".... The Federalist Society is heavily funded by multi-millionaire Richard Mellon Scaife, a benefactor of many liberal causes as well. The Federalist Society derives its name from the Federalist Papers which were published in 1787-88 by Alexander Hamilton, John Jay and James Madison, all Freemasons. Hamilton was a crypto-Jew and a Rothschild agent who led the elitist Federalist faction. Hamilton argued at the Constitutional Convention that America could only achieve stability if governed by a king and aristocracy. As a secret agent of the House of Rothschild, Hamilton, also attempted to establish a Federal Reserve Bank in the U.S. “Alexander Hamilton married into the Rothschild family December 14, 1780, Alexander Hamilton was born Alexander Levine, of Jewish lineage, in St. Croix, the West Indies. After changing his name and his geographical situs, he married Elizabeth Schuyler… [The Intimate Life of Alexander Hamilton, by Allan Hamilton 1910] “[It has been reported that there are documents in the British museum that prove Alexander Hamilton received payment from the Rothschild’s for his dastardly deeds. Could this payment have been for his involvement in the establishment of a foreign bank in this country, and for convincing Congress to assume the States debts, which would have created a debt obligation binding the United States government and the States to the international bankers?]” (“The History Of Lawful Gold And Silver Legal Tender And The Debt Brought On By Unlawful Fiat Paper Money”) Alexander Hamilton has been called the American Machiavelli, after the famous political genius of the Renaissance. According to Michael Ledeen, Machiavelli was a crypto-Jew, like Hamilton. Opus Dei is an elitist organization, like the Federalist Society, but has the facade of a Catholic religious order. The philosophy of Opus Dei is believed by many to be based on Machiavelli's book, The Prince. Opus Dei was founded in 1928 by Jose Maria Escrivá de Balaguer, a crypto-Jew whose surname was originally “Escriba” which means “Scribe.” In 1982, Pope John Paul II made Opus Dei a “personal prelature,” a privilege conferred upon no other religious order. In other words, this organization, founded by a crypto-Jew, is accountable to no one but the Pope. That might not be a problem per se, except there is convincing evidence that Pope John Paul II was one of the many Jewish popes of the Catholic Church, including the present Pope Benedict XVI (Ratzinger). After a record-breaking canonization process of 27 years, Pope John Paul II declared the Jewish Escrivá a saint of the Roman Catholic Church . It is imperative to understand that Opus Dei is not fundamentally a Catholic organization but a front for B’nai B’rith, which is directly under the high cabal of International Jewry, the Prieuré de Sion. An informative Catholic website, Opus Dei Alert has exposed Opus Dei as a Jewish front and Escrivá as a Marrano Jew......." Within is their financial plot against America, and possibly the seeds of their destruction, as well, if this certificate is applied against them by VK Durham, or whoever. According to Durham, Rothschild et al agreed to a debt swap, but reneged on the deal, and I think what she was claiming was that Bush et al used the instrument to create derivatives [don't quote me; I had to look up what a derivative was; as I said this financial wizardy is way over my head] that they sold to different countries and it's all falling down around their ears. Also that they were funding "Al Qaeda" [Al Kada in Africa???] with the money. As an example she gave links to some old news stories regarding the banks and these derivatives that are both scary and quite revealing, even to someone like me who hardly understands the subject. Anyway, I have to wonder if the Phoenix Journal is a CIA front to spread disinfo, and are they in cahoots with the Ekkers? [Were you able to determine who is holding this certificate now?] Next you have GAIA, Global Alliance Investment Association on the Internet. [Interestingly, Gaia is also a New Age religion based on "Mother Earth"] “Restoring the SOVEREIGNTY of All Nations” For recent developments please visit http://www.PhoenixSourceDistributors.com Welcome to the home of Global Alliance Investment Association on the Internet. We are the Creditor of the International Banking Cartel which has enslaved mankind and we offer every nation the opportunity to restore its SOVEREIGNTY. On the pages of this site you will find the proof of our position and THE solution to the problems which beset mankind at this time, which involves YOU. For many years we went without an Internet presence as we endeavoured to work with political authorities and bankers throughout the world. Those efforts are ongoing but it is now time for “Phase Two” of our operations. Phase Two calls for a somewhat more aggressive though non-forceful approach, which involves YOU. We intend that the people of the world should be aware of the solution in order to bring pressure to bear on national political leaders to “make it so”. We do not advocate the use of force under any circumstances. Acting on the truth in goodness is all that is required. This phase calls for YOU to take action in accordance with the following truth: NOT TO OPPOSE ERROR IS TO APPROVE IT: NOT TO DEFEND TRUTH IS TO SUPPRESS IT Physical Address: 3132 W. Post Rd. Las Vegas NV 89118 ===================== " Mission Statement Over a long period of time, with great deliberateness, the International Bankers have managed to divide virtually every nation into the "haves", a few "elite" who serve them and are abundantly rewarded, and the "have nots" who will either become slaves or dead. This economic tyranny depends upon the use of fiat paper money in unlimited quantities issued by the bankers. It can be overcome by each nation reverting to the use of gold as the basis of its money, which means that the leadership of the nation must put the national interest ahead of the international interest. Facilitating that goal to restore the dignity, self-respect, and SOVEREIGNTY of each nation, and thus its citizens, is the mission of GLOBAL ALLIANCE INVESTMENT ASSOCIATION. http://www.globalallianceassn.com/html/mission_statement.html Well, if gold sells for $1,000 or $2,000 or $40,000 an ounce, who does that benefit, the poor or the rich, in particular the ones with the printing press, who can pay for their gold at the rate of 2 and 1/2 cents per $100, and are already in possession of most of it? Since I have only scraped at a sliver of this story, I'm not counting Durham out just yet. She claims they erased her history from the social security files etc. She may very well be a nut and a liar; I haven't decided yet. However, I KNOW the ones she claims to be fighting are liars, and murderers, and perpetratiors of disinfo and psyops, and have all avenues at their disposal to discredit anyone they please. All I know is, the truth WILL prevail. I also find it ironic all this gold is based on BAT DROPPINGS! http://www.theantechamber.net/Ra.../WmdsGlobalTerrorism.html God said He would catch them in their craftiness, He would laugh (Psalm 2), and they would be "dung" on the earth ( http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Jer/25/33.html / and so much for "rising out of the ashes": http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Jer/25/34.html ]. I think this is one story that is not finished yet. Thanks for the fresh leads.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
I would rather have excerpted it and just posted the link, but I'd be wealthy if I had a nickel for every time I posted a link and shortly thereafter had the whole website disappear.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
That's cool, I'll find time to get to it. I'll save it just in case the Internets go down. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Yeppers, SmokinOPs. You'da man. Common rule of thumb is to assume that the net has significantly more nutballs than legitimate folks posting information. It's just the nature of the beast - free and open to all. Unless one researches the background of "bloggers" and dark horse news websites very very carefully, it's easy to be taken in. Unfortunately when one recycles information from these crazy off-the-wall sites, the recycler gets tagged with the same smell as the origin of the garbage news. Here's some friendly words of advice - use caution, ATKHWD, when surfing the net looking for news stories.
actually i wasn't looking...it just sort of fell into my lap :} but thanks for the tip! =================================================== http://www.theantechamber.net/V_K_Durham/CounterfeitBondsSeized.htm "...Would the F1 elitists actually delay relief efforts in order to increase the death toll (and get closer to their goal for limiting the earth's population)?...." ".... A PHOENIX RISING w/ VKD on the COUNTERFEIT BONDS *PIC* Mammonator -- Saturday, 8 January 2005, 3:17 a.m....." http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=62480 [ http://www.vialls.com/subliminalsuggestion/tsunami.html ] "....I find the picture at the end of the article to be kind of interesting in it's own right... Clinton and the 2 presidents Bush seem to be standing in front of a PHOENIX... Blessings, Mammonator...." http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/read/62701 ============= Lord Mayor's Show - GOG AND MAGOG "Towards the head of the procession you will see two benevolent giants. They are Gog and Magog, the traditional guardians of the City of London who have been carried in the Lord Mayor's Show since the reign of Henry V. They are descended from the pagan giants of early English pageantry and their history is buried in ancient legends of Britain's origins. ...." "...."The statues of Gog and Magog currently standing in the Guildhall were commissioned from sculptor David Evans by Alderman Sir George Wilkinson, who was Lord Mayor when the previous versions were destroyed in the Blitz. The phoenix shield tells us that this is Magog." ....." www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=60690 4um: Reputation as Satan's lair bedevils Washington Apr 19, 2008 ... Lord Mayor's Show - GOG AND MAGOG " www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78446 4um: The Rising Son of the House of JP Morgan. EXCERPTS from my post Lord Mayor's Show - GOG AND MAGOG www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=60690 re: the INTERNATIONAL BANKSTERS OF THE ... www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=71068 4um: Reputation as Satan's lair bedevils Washington Isaiah 14:2 / Amos 8:14
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Problem is, does this gold certificate even exist? there is a problem with this software; newlines and breaks are ignored after a few preview + corrections.
We cannot afford peace at any price. - Newt Gingrich, May 29, 1998
If you need a pdf reader, you might try Foxit Reader.
We cannot afford peace at any price. - Newt Gingrich, May 29, 1998
Why hasn't Eddy Jo Ekker shown a pic of the certificate? I still haven't gotten up to speed on this. I just now found out that VK Durham sent the certificate to the PTB: "...Our documents were accepted by the U.S. Fed. R./U.S. Department of the Treasury/and "we are left behind" while the Asian Markets flourish....." www.theantechamber.net/Vk...tPaymt/UsDebtPaymt12.html It appears they took the document and injected it into the stock market. I don't understand this high finance, but so far I am gathering that a lot of paper was sold on these funds, which now appears to be another debt that CorpUSA/British Crown is slapping back on WE the people. It also appears that a whole lot is going on behind the scenes on the international scene as a result of this [see my note here as a possible connection: freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...gi?ArtNum=83511&Disp=8#C8 . At the link on Parmalat, at the bottom of the page is a reference to the Isle of Man. Yesterday I ran across another very interesting article, which also references the Isle of Man near the bottom of the page, the Queen being the "Lord" of it. www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread307595/pg1 . I read something about that symbol a long time ago, but I don't remember what it was. However, it does look a bit like the swastika.]. It appears Durham was going to void the agreement after July 17, 2003, at which time if they had not paid up, she demanded the certificate be returned. I haven't read any further than that but, obviously they did not pay up, and the info is all over the net about this, and if Durham's story is true, the knowledge that there is a whole lot more paper that is floating around the world based on more thin air. According to Durham, the substance of the deed still belongs to her trust and the American people, and is still earning interest until paid. My brand new printer doesn't work either, and I am one of those who really needs to have the paper in front of me. I am finding it very difficult to jump back and forth to all these documents and articles on line. I'd like to be able to print them all out, sit back and take notes. This is one very intriguing story.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Where's the missing $6.5 Trillion? << 1 2 >> Topic started on 4-11-2007 @ 07:50 AM by stompk Here's an incredible story, an international conspiracy. The story begins with V.K. Durham, CEO of Durham Holding Trust. Durham is the Trust Company that holds (at least did) the trust account for the US Nation Debt, which is now $10 trillion, of which we pay nearly $500 billion in interest every year out of our income tax. On May 21st, 2003 we (The Trust) had reached an agreement with THE FEDERAL RESERVE "Appointee" i.e., KAMARULZAMAN BIN ANNUAR (Gold Trader) on the amount which would be acceptable to the U.S. Federal Reserve & U.S. Dept. of the Treasury in regards to the "Payment" of $6.5 Trillion "Gold Equity Collateral" to resolve/settle/pay off the U.S. & Latin American Debt. No one could figure out WHERE THE DEBT PAYMENT went. It never showed up in the GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING OFFICES as a Credit Back of Debt Payment. Source What this is stating, is that the citizens of the United States, paid off our national debt, back in 2003, with Gold! Where did they get the gold? It was underneath the World Trade Centers. When they removed the gold, they kept it. Then, duping Durham, and the citizens, they paid Bin Annuar, but instead of paying the Federal Reserve off, (a for profit Bank), they injected it into the banking system, effectively increasing the amount of loans they could give out. The problem with that is, now we are further in debt, and our dollar value is plunging because the big banking system understands we have no gold backing our dollar (at least $6.5 trillion less). And since gold value is now effectively in control of the Federal Reserve, because they now own our gold, our debt, our taxes, our country. Bush just appointed John C. Dugan, as the Comptroller. The Comptroller, controls all Federally Insured (FDIC) Banks, Credit Unions, etc. He is head of Government finances. Thats 1700 branch banks, and 50 central banks. At least half of the banks in the US. And that's just the tip, with all the CU's and Mortgage Institutions, Payday Lenders, etc. A new banking act was just put into effect, Nov 1, 2007, called Basel II. Basel II, is complicated, but in a nutshell, changes the credit risk system. It now allows Big Banks, different credit risk parameters than little banks. It effectively gives Big Banks an advantage, giving them wider ranges of risk for bigger loans. The Federal Reserve has been pushing this. But they needed the approval of the Federal Government. Even though congress appeared to be opposed to it, it was passed, because Bush appointed Dugan, who has the vote. The objective, is to funnel all funds into Big Banks, who are trading their US Dollars, for an electronic money called the EuroDollar, which the Queen of England effectively controls through her Island of Mann scheme. John Dugan, just got appointed as Chairman of The Joint Forum, a group of international bankers, who are parented by three giant banking systems, which is controlled by the London Interbank System, which controls the LIBOR and instilled the Basel II system. The London Interbank System is controlled by the Queen of England, who controls the Queen of Canada, who VK Durham got into a heated discussion with a representative of the Queen of Canada, f you remember; The Queens Signatory at WACHOVIA BANK (ONTARIO CANADA) called the DURHAM HOLDING TRUST back in November 2004 and was told: "Tell the Queen and Rothschild the U.S. and Latin American Debt was paid in the amount of 6.5 Trillion Dollars via DEBT SWAP-DEBT CONVERSION. The Debt Payment was misused. Everyone is once again trying to foreclose on the united States of America and Latin America. This DURHAM HOLDING TRUST holds the FIRST MORTGAGE on PERU further holding THE LIENS ON THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. EVERYTHING HAS BEEN ACCORDING TO THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA & THE CONTRACTING NATION OF PERU. Pass this on to GERMANY'S SCHROEDER BANKING and CHIRAC'S FRENCH BANKING that we will be happy to work with them. However; IF THESE INTERNATIONAL BANKS AROUND THE WORLD ARE PLANNING ON FORECLOSING ON THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA & LATIN AMERICA THIS TRUST MUST BE PAID, IN FULL, IN GOLD (American Gold Dollar, American Gold Coin, Gold Bullion) NOT U.S. Dollar (Fed. R. Notes). Of course the amount due will have to be RE-CALCULATED from May 1, 1990 and brought current at the time of payment. Until such time, If I were you old boys.. I would get some heads together and try to work out something with THE DURHAM HOLDING TRUST. Remember.. YOU ARE ALL DEBTOR NATIONS owing this TRUST also." The Queens Signatory replied: "Your the DOOR-STOP! Your the FIRST MORTGAGE HOLDER on in essence THE ENTIRE CONTINENT! Your what has been stopping us." Yep! That's what is going on, I replied. Don't you think its about time you old boys started playing nice with this DURHAM HOLDING TRUST...? I strongly suggest you do, because you can pass this on to SCHROEDER and CHIRAC "When Greenspan set up the EURO, he set it up with about 80% of the Underwriting with COUNTERFEIT U.S. DEBT INSTRUMENTS written on our instruments, without our permission. Jim Sinclair put out his Gold and Dollar Market Summary, Tuesday February 22, 2005 and made the statement: "When 52% of the world's central banks have declared that they are not just buyers but are sellers of a percentage of their US dollar holdings "times are changin." The key factor here is not the percentage of their holdings that they are willing to liquidate but rather that they are NO LONGER buyers of US debt instruments." HERE IS THE DIFFERENCE: All of you keep this in mind; WE this HOLDING TRUST hold's AMERICAN GOLD DOLLAR, GOLD, GOLD COIN, GOLD BULLION "CONTRACTED DEBT." The Counterfeits are written on U.S. DOLLAR "DEBT" or FEDERAL RESERVE DEBT NOTES and minus some very important requirements.... Has anyone ever considered "ARRESTING & PROSECUTING THESE BUSTERS IN THIS COUNTERFEIT U.S. DEBT INSTRUMENT SCAM?" Last I heard; BLACKMAILING A SITTING PRESIDENT IS A "NO-NO" ALSO! V.K. Durham, CEO Since the Federal Reserve lowered the interest rate again, the stock market reacted differently to the news. This is cause for a concern on the inside, because it is known that the lowering of the interest rate, lowers the value of the dollar, because more money is printed, to cover the increase in loans from lower interest rates. Lower dollar value, means more banks sell their US Dollar accounts for the electronic Eurodollar. The Eurodollar is only legal in offshore accounts, which is what The Isle Of Mann is. Our government stole our Gold, and enslaved us with it! reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 4-11-2007 @ 08:28 AM by stompk It's pretty ironic. The US mint prints money, and gives it to the Federal Reserve. The Fed Res takes it's cut, and gives it to the central banks. The central banks, take their cut, and give it to the branch banks. The branch banks, take their cut, and loan it to the people that the money belongs to in the first place. And the government lets this happen, because the Federal Reserve funds lobbyists, and pet charities, projects, etc. Why did the government need to eliminate the WTC buildings, to get to the gold? 1. There is no gold in Fort Knox. Find a recent audit report to prove me wrong. 2. They couldn't take the gold out, without being noticed. It's just too much. It would be notice by someone. So, they came up with the scheme to bring down the towers, and in the confusion of the aftermath, grab the gold, without anyone suspecting anything. The Pentagon, was just a staged (probably cruise missle) attack. There is a famous video of Osama Bin Laden meeting with some other Arabs, laughing it up. Well, one of the people with Bin Laden is Datu Ben Abu. Datu Ben Abu met with CIA and SAC officials, in Manila, around the time of the attacks. About the same time this video surfaced. Interesting letter. reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 4-11-2007 @ 08:43 AM by Jadette There's an interesting thread here about it: I'm not sure who these folks are, but some of them seem to be more first person about this all than most. reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 4-11-2007 @ 10:09 AM by stompk reply to post by Jadette Thanks! U.s. Treasury Secretary Seized And Brought Before 'ad Hoc' Tribunal In Germany On A Subpoena Handed Out By The International Court Of Justice [or 'world Court'] On Charges Of Money-laundering, Non-payment Of The Wanta $4.5 Trillion And For Misappropriation And/or Diversion Of Colossal $ Sums. Here's some more on the Gold under the WTC. Eight years ago, when the World Trade Centre was bombed by terrorists, more than $1 billion in gold was being kept in the basement vaults, the property of the Kuwaiti Government. The vaults withstood the blast. At first police believed the terrorist attack was an attempted gold robbery. Since then the amount of gold kept under the World Trade Centre has been a carefully guarded secret. Source I'd be willing to bet that the amount was much more than thought. There was vaults throughout the towers with Gold in them too. How much? Who knows? Central banks and the International Monetary Fund play an important role in the gold price. At the end of 2004 central banks and official organisations held 19 percent of all above ground gold as official gold reserves [6]. The Washington Agreement on Gold (WAG) which dates from September 1999, limits gold sales by its members (Europe, United States, Japan, Australia, Bank for International Settlements and the International Monetary Fund) to less than 400 tonnes a year [7]. European central banks, such as the Bank of England and Swiss National Bank, have been key sellers of gold over this period Wikipedia Gold and Oil. The Bushes are deep in both. Now they want all the property and land, too. reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 4-11-2007 @ 04:30 PM by stompk So, the deal was to pay off US and Latin debt. Americans didn't get their debt paid, just increased, but Latin America In recent months, major countries in the region have moved to pay off their loans to the IMF ahead of schedule and free themselves of direct oversight from the institution. Announcements in December from Argentina and Brazil, which are paying off $9.8 billion and $15.5 billion respectively, inaugurated the trend in the region. In addition, Bolivia was relieved of its outstanding obligations to the IMF by last year's debt relief agreement at the G8. The country's newly elected president, Evo Morales, has indicated that he may let his standby agreement with the IMF expire at the end of the month Source Maybe this is why Paulson was arrested for $4 trillion, instead of $6.5 trillion, because $2.5 Trillion went to actually pay of the Latin American debt. reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 4-11-2007 @ 05:21 PM by jpm1602 I am certain of only one thing. The American economy is being dissected and pillaged by no bid contractors sleeping with our leaders. Wish I had 90k wrapped in foil in my freezer. Funny how that story died quick. reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 06:43 AM by stompk reply to post by jpm1602 There are sooo many. Missing emails, shredding documents, stolen laptops, fired AG's, 9-11 controversy, London attacks, train explosion in Spain, etc. All, so they can live more comfortably? reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 07:09 AM by Essan Whether any of the OP is true or not I can't say, but this is complete nonsense: Originally posted by stompk The London Interbank System is controlled by the Queen of England, who controls the Queen of Canada, who VK Durham got into a heated discussion with a representative of the Queen of Canada, There's no such thing as the 'Queen of England' and the 'Queen of Canada' Presumably you mean the Queen of the UK and Commonwealth (all one person!)? Except she no more controls banking than I do (the 'London Interbank System' appears to be a made up name as well) The Eurodollar is only legal in offshore accounts, which is what The Isle Of Mann is. I think Man is a bit more than just an offshore bank account reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 07:50 AM by stompk reply to post by Essan Essan, thanks for making my point. The Queen of England controls Canada. London Interbank But, of course, you don't know anything about the rest of the stuff. reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 07:53 AM by stompk It's not like I'm making this stuff up. I've been researching it for a while now. Previous thread about the Eurodollar reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 09:53 AM by Essan Originally posted by stompk reply to post by Essan Essan, thanks for making my point. The Queen of England controls Canada. And why do you keep calling her the Queen of England? We don't talk about the President of New England And lets be more accurate on other things - are you saying then that the Queen determines LIBOR and LIBID? And the Britsh Banker's Association is just a front? The Queen must be a busy person to do all this and take the Corgis for a walk [edit on 5-11-2007 by Essan] reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 05:29 PM by stompk Essan I like you. I think you are trying to do the right thing. But, I will tell you, you are barking up the wrong tree. Your focus, is misdirected. Stop. .. ... . ... . .. . . .. reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 07:49 PM by gmax111 hi stompk.. i trade foreign currency for a living... most of what you said lines up with the many news reports and market actions that has happened since 2001.. I dont have much to add but i think you may find this pretty interesting.. www.theregister.co.uk... reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 07:54 PM by captainplanet But why did they knock down the WTC buildings to just to get 1 billion when they need 6.5 trillion? And if they're the government couldn't they just go in and take it? reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 6-11-2007 @ 07:11 AM by stompk I think there was much more under the WTC than anybody knows. During the week that they helped out, a high security operation was taking place: recovering gold from vaults deep under the World Trade Center. “They brought up $300 million of Canadian gold – only a fraction of all the wealth stored there,” explained Mullen. Many countries stored massive amounts of gold under the WTC, moving it from vault to vault as transactions occurred between nations. Source I believe, the WTC had a massive stash of secret governments gold. It was secret, because governments did not want the people to know about the gold they had stashed under the American WTC complex. So a plan was hatched. Crash into the towers, trapping the people at the top, who have the knowledge of the amounts and owners of the gold under the WTC, bring the towers down, to destroy the evidence, and steal all the gold under the WTC. Governments with Gold under there can't complain, because it is secret. It is secret, because it is stolen from the citizens. Also, by keeping the actual amount of gold in the world a secret, letting people think there is only 140,000 tons, they can control the value too. Also, the US had gold under there too? Our gold. An interesting article about a little known giant gold mine in US National Forest, ie Yellowstone. New World Gold Mine he New World Mine Project would mine an estimated 1,800 tons of gold/silver/copper ore per day (500,000 tons annually) They go on to give an estimated value of $800 million value over 10-15 year period. If you do the math, 500,000 tons a year for 10 years is 5,000,000 tons of ore. They are only making $160 per ton of ore?? The math doesn't add up. Doesn't really have a connection to the WTC, but the amounts show that I think we are duped as to the actual amounts of Gold available. reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 6-11-2007 @ 07:18 AM by stompk reply to post by gmax111 Thanks gmax! The Bank of England told HM Treasury about the secret US surveillance of international banking transactions as long as five years ago. The US's eager pursuit of terrorist financiers, begun within weeks of the 11 September attacks, involved a trawl through the world's financial transactions through subpoenas on the firm that handles them for private banking clients - the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Communication (Swift). European authorities, including the UK's Information Commissioner, have since declared the US operation "illegal" and have begun to press financial institutions to put a stop to the warrantless and unprotected transfers of private banking data to the US authorities. Source HM Treasury, stands for Her Majesty's Treasury The Queen would need to allow the US to go through and destroy data that has any links to trades of Gold beneath the WTC's IMO [edit on 6-11-2007 by stompk] reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 6-11-2007 @ 07:23 AM by Skyfloating Unfortunately I dont understand anything of what you are saying. Im not good with this kind of stuff. But Id like to understand. Can you put the conspiracy you are referring to into layman terms? Also, its hard for me to imagine that 6.5 Trillion could go unaccounted for. reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 6-11-2007 @ 07:36 AM by stompk reply to post by Skyfloating It was accounted for, just not credited. The US government, under the guise of paying off national debt, duping the holder of the trust, injected stolen foreign Gold into the central banking system, allowing the banks to lend more, and use riskier credit parameter, to buy up the land. Then, the Federal Reserve, lowers interest rates devaluing the dollar. They also squeeze the amount of actual money in the system, affectively gaining control. Then they squeeze the population, with more debt, and higher taxes, until just about nobody can afford to put food on the table, and take control of strategic land and commercial properties. Once our dollar has no value, because we have no gold to back it, and the country is bankrupt, we are under the control of the Queen/Prince Charles. If the country resists, Bush sends in Blackwater. Blackwater-Bush-Mason-Queen (the SEE) 200 years of fighting for freedom, down the tube. reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 6-11-2007 @ 08:17 AM by 11Bravo Originally posted by stompk 200 years of fighting for freedom, down the tube. I dont hear no fat lady singing yet. Never give up. reply to this post: copyright & usage reply posted on 6-11-2007 @ 10:36 AM by stompk Thanks Bravo, I won't That’s my first question. My second question, Mr. Secretary: according to the Comptroller General of the United States, there are serious financial management problems at the Pentagon, to which Mr. Cooper alluded. Fiscal Year 1999, $2.3 trillion missing. Fiscal Year 2000, $1.1 trillion missing. And DoD is the number one reason why the government can’t balance its checkbook. The Pentagon has claimed year after year that the reason it can’t account for the money is because its computers don’t communicate with each other. Transcript of Congressional hearing Could the Bush clan, following up on the Clinton after Bush clan, have been buying up foreign Gold, and stashing it under the WTC, By Stewart Stogel New York (CNSNews.com) - As New Yorkers try to recover from the attack on the World Trade Center, financial markets have yet to feel the full impact of the terrorist action. Far beneath the shattered buildings, screaming ambulances and dazed New Yorkers on the streets of Manhattan are two of the world’s largest gold depositories. One belongs to the US Federal Reserve Bank; another to a group of financial institutions. The Fed’s gold reserve is housed 100 ft. beneath its headquarters, only blocks from the World Trade Center, whose twin towers collapsed into mammoth heaps of rubble after two hijacked jetliners were crashed into the buildings. The Fed boasts that its gold depository spans the length of two football fields and contains more gold than any other vault on earth. Source My guess is an underground tunnel connected the two. My thinking is, that all of the US Government secret gold reserve, was pumped into the Federal Reserve system, hidden by the horror of the event, circumventing the scrutiny of an inept Congress. And most of them are bought off anyway, i.e $90,000 stashed in freezer. With the public thinking Congress will hold the publics best interest, the public is duped, supporting the war, and taking out bigger and bigger loans, having confidence in the economy. "...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
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#2. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)
#3. To: lodwick (#1)
In a paragraph, or two, can you boil all this down for us?
#4. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#3)
#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)
[i'm totally confused now...i have way too many windows, and some of them are not working very well....i think this is what i meant to post, along with the post i accidentally put on the other thread....this one first]
#6. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#5)
here's the other post....
Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House: "Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government........
#7. To: lodwick (#4)
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#8. To: mirage (#2)
#9. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#7)
#10. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)
I'll take Cliff's Notes for 200, All!
#11. To: lodwick (#7)
maybe it was the National Currency Act of 1864.
#12. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#8)
Well, do you think we could get two thirds of both Houses to vote themselves out of a job?
#13. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#8)
The South was deprived of its suffrage under Lincoln. The Congress has been unlawful since the Civil War.
#14. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)
With Illinois "blocking" the Will of the People, the setting up the Safe Keeping in the Trust was absolutely necessary.
#15. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)
The original Herrman-Herman Estate, set aside 24 per cent of the December 28, 1988 notarized calculations of the U.S. Debt owed to this Trust, calculated from May 1, 1875 to May 1, 1990 in the amount of $206,858,581,465,280,000,000.00 Gold, now held in safe keeping of the Durham (Intl. Ltd;) Holding Trust (TIAS 12087) for these states of the union adopting their Xth Amendment rights once again.
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#16. To: Indrid Cold (#15)
#17. To: mirage (#12)
#18. To: mirage (#13)
#19. To: SmokinOPs (#14)
#20. To: Indrid Cold (#15)
#21. To: SmokinOPs (#14)
Why do you post jibberish like this? Do you think you are doing some service to liberty by posting ungrammatical ramblings from fringe nut websites?
#22. To: mirage (#13)
By their own consent, they were deprived of suffrage and only gained it back upon re-admission to the Union.
#23. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#20)
#24. To: HOUNDDAWG, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#21)
#25. To: HOUNDDAWG (#22)
And, when exactly did that happen?
#26. To: mirage, Jethro Tull (#25)
Do you really need a history lesson?
#27. To: HOUNDDAWG, Jethro Tull (#26)
Apparently you believe that a voluntary union of sovereign states somehow became mandatory and the right of secession was mysteriously forfeit.
#28. To: mirage, Jethro Tull, christine (#25)
Do you really need a history lesson?
#29. To: mirage (#27)
Not once did I say it was voluntary. I used the word "conquered" and am using it again here.
#30. To: mirage, Jethro Tull, christine, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#12)
Well, do you think we could get two thirds of both Houses to vote themselves out of a job?
#31. To: HOUNDDAWG, Jethro Tull, christine (#30)
Go back to Fairie land where snakes swallow themselves whenever they get to be nuisances.
#32. To: HOUNDDAWG, Jethro Tull, christine (#30)
It also allows the States to convent a convention to propose amendments that BYPASS the Congress and go straight to the State Legislatures.
#33. To: rack42 (#23)
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#34. To: Rotara (#10)
I'll take Cliff's Notes for 200, All!
#35. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#34)
I would rather have excerpted it and just posted the link, but I'd be wealthy if I had a nickel for every time I posted a link and shortly thereafter had the whole website disappear.
#36. To: SmokinOPs, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#24)
Pretty much as I figured. This broad is right in there on the nuttiness scale between that "Ghost Troop" guy Eric May and David Icke.
#37. To: scrapper2 (#36)
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Here's some friendly words of advice - use caution, ATKHWD, when surfing the net looking for news stories
#38. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#33)
Why hasn't Eddy Jo Ekker shown a pic of the certificate?
How did Ekker convince the Tallon people that this certificate was real and that he had some guarantee that some monies were coming from the FED or US Treasury?
I suspect that the Tallon people were well intentioned but ignorant. Ekker recognized this and took advantage.
#39. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#37)
#40. To: rack42 (#38)
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Problem is, does this gold certificate even exist?
#41. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#40)
for safekeeping...
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