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Title: Canada, U.S. Move to Make Vitamins Prescription Drugs - Canada Moves to Stifle Health Freedom; Make Vitamins ‘Prescription Drugs
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URL Source: http://www.americanfreepress.net/ht ... ins_prescription_drugs_14.html
Published: Jul 7, 2008
Author: Mike Finch
Post Date: 2008-07-15 14:45:01 by AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt
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Canada, U.S. Move to Make Vitamins Prescription Drugs

Canada Moves to Stifle Health Freedom; Make Vitamins ‘Prescription Drugs’

By Mike Finch

Canadian bill C-51 would put natural remedies such as vitamins and herbs in the same regulatory category as pharmaceuticals. If the bill passes, it would dangerously increase government oversight and power regarding natural remedies. “The increased powers and the changes proposed by bill C-51 give Canadians—informed Canadians—a very great cause for concern,” Conservative Member of the Canadian Parliament James Lunney said in testimony before parliament.

“Given the tools that are in C-51. . .could ensure that a lot of good products do not see the light of day.” The “tools” Lunney referred to are greatly increased powers given to the minister of health, Tony Clement. The bill would require applications for all clinical trials, allow Clement to categorize natural remedies and require prescriptions for them, require licensing for all natural remedies, and potentially allow entities like the World Health Organization or Codex Alimentarius [a United Nations globalist creation pushing to tightly regulate what you can and cannot consume] to impose regulations on Canada without regard for the opinions of the voting population or their representatives.

“We’re seeking to gain the new authority to reassure the public that the government can, and will, act to protect health and safety as early as possible,” Minister Clement said in an April press release. Clement would do this by “allowing products, persons or establishments to be registered and licensed.” Lunney said that vitamins, proteins, minerals and herbs have always been “public domain.” This legislation would place such remedies in the same category as prescription drugs. Canadian pharmaceutical companies have been strangely silent on the legislation, columnist Alan Cassels of Common Ground magazine said. “How can we explain tight lips [of Canadian pharmaceutical companies] around the biggest change to the Canadian drug relations in half a century? I can’t answer for sure, but let me hazard a guess: It’s because they like it. They like it a lot,” Cassels said. “Let’s face it—any law that kicks sand in the face of a competitor by blinding him with bureaucratic red tape is a pretty sweet deal.”

But Cassels sees even more in the bill that drug companies will likely love: increased speed in drug approvals, Big Pharma control of after-market testing and an allowance for public advertising. Now Canada’s airwaves will also have drug commercials that the U.S. has had for years. “DTCA (Direct to Consumer Advertising) is the jewel crown of pharma marketing—a potentially $500 million per year ad market in Canada that can transform a ho-hum or even dangerous drug into a blockbuster, through the power of persuasive ads,” Cassels said.

While the drug companies have more freedoms with this bill, the natural remedy industry has fewer.The current process for registering a product with the government is so cumbersome that Lunney estimated 20,000 to 30,000 natural remedies are awaiting approval, and have been for years. C-51 will just provide more red tape. Lots of it. “It seems products like Red Bull [a so-called energy drink] gets an NPN (approval) fairly readily . . . but natural health products that could have a real impact on serious sickness seem to have a hard time getting through,” Lunney said.

Mike Finch is an intern for American Free Press. He specializes in alternative health and energy issues. He has a Master’s degree in journalism and is working on his Ph.D. in communication. Mike presently lives with his wife in Virginia.

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We are already connected to Canada's health laws through Codex some kind of way...at the moment, I don't recall exactly how. After the NAU merger, it will be complete.

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#1. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

This is a DIRECT THREAT to the freedom, liberty, livelihoods and sovereignty of the individual.

Enforcers should be considered agents of extreme evil. The highest corporate pirates of the NAU should be held personally accountable for their / companies' actions against WTP and America.

They better back off Americans or there will be a grievous type of he## to pay.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-15   14:57:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Rotara (#1)

Thank you. Would you mind e-mailing this article to some friends and family, please?

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-07-15   15:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#2)

Thank you. Would you mind e-mailing this article to some friends and family, please?

No thanks necessary, I'm called to do it. ;-)

I always email stuff out of here, like everyone else I'm sure! LOL

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-15   15:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Christine, farmfriend, JamesDeffenbach, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, buckeye, Peppa, lodwick, Artisan, IndieTX, Pinguinite, JethroTull, Cynicom, Arator, HayekFan, IndridCold, palo verde, robin, All (#0)

ping

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-15   15:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Rotara, all (#4)

Most of us in the 'truth' community are aware of this treacherous business afoot.

Can't have the slaves trying to get healthy on their own with reasonably priced products...

Lod  posted on  2008-07-15   15:38:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Rotara, all (#0)

Bill C-51

The Official Stop C-51 Website - Your Freedom And Health Are At Risk!

"...It is NOT outlawing products, but rather bringing the natural health product industry up to a certain standard of testing. It's an attack on deceptive labeling, improper health claims and pseudoscience. No thug is going to kick down your door for serving dandelion greens at dinner. What is being outlawed is selling dandelion greens in a misleading way (eg. with untested health claims)...


"An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-07-15   15:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lodwick, all (#5)

Bill C-51, Codex and the SPP


"An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-07-15   15:50:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: wudidiz. all (#7)

How can fast-tracking potentially dangerous new drugs and at the same time outlawing some beneficial natural medicines be good for anyone? One must understand that it is also about ensuring huge profits for Big Pharma. Bill C-51 should be rejected on the grounds that it threatens the ability of Canadians to choose alternative health products and treatments.

Good linkage - thanks.

Lod  posted on  2008-07-15   15:58:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Rotara, lodwick, IndieTX, Original_Intent (#0)

Codex Alimentarius

This is a night mare. It is already causing the UK to get rid of over 300 vitamins. Things like condriotin and glucosamine will be illegal. In 2009, manadory compliance with codex will be forced on us.

Learn about Codex Alimentarius


"You have delusions of adequacy."

farmfriend  posted on  2008-07-15   15:59:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: farmfriend (#9)

Codex Alimentarius

This is a night mare. It is already causing the UK to get rid of over 300 vitamins. Things like condriotin and glucosamine will be illegal. In 2009, manadory compliance with codex will be forced on us.

It's war. Only thing is, the enemy is the only one acting like it.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-15   16:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: wudidiz, Dana Gabriel (#7)

Bill C-51, Codex and the SPP

Excellent!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-15   16:16:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: lodwick (#5)

Most of us in the 'truth' community are aware of this treacherous business afoot.

Can't have the slaves trying to get healthy on their own with reasonably priced products...

Note how many eugenics supporters are NOT on this thread! ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-15   16:17:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Rotara, wudidiz, farmfriend, lodwick, all (#3)

Thank you for all your help! I'm working on a couple of other things and trying to clean up my computer and keep it from crashing all at the same time. Just wanted to let you know, Your time and effort in this matter is greatly appreciated!!

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-07-15   16:58:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Rotara, farmfriend, lodwick, all (#13)

Under Bill C-51 the State could:

· Enter private property without a warrant

· Take your property at their discretion

· Dispose of your property at will

· Not reimburse you for your losses

· Seize your bank accounts without a warrant

· Charge owners shipping and storage charges for seized property

· Store your property indefinitely

· Levy fines of up to $5,000,000.00 and/or seek 2 years in jail per charge

· Will not have to report seizures to a court.

· They can charge you just for talking about or promoting natural alternatives


"An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-07-15   17:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Rotara (#10)

It's war. Only thing is, the enemy is the only one acting like it.

California has a large health nut industry but those of us waving red flags can't get them to listen.


"You have delusions of adequacy."

farmfriend  posted on  2008-07-15   17:54:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Rotara (#12)

Note how many eugenics supporters are NOT on this thread! ;-)

It is interesting who posts where. I won't name any names.


"You have delusions of adequacy."

farmfriend  posted on  2008-07-15   17:55:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: wudidiz (#14)

Good heavens!! I'm just looking at the titles....haven't even looked at the links!! But have to LOVE the title of the link: Canada's Police State Bill C51 Camouglaged as a Health Bill.

Indeed it is!

Once again, thank you for your help!!

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-07-15   17:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#17)

The "Death" industry is really going to prosper.

This may not be much consolation but, even though we will die in this madness we will live again.

But at that time the tables will be turned.

Those who have deceived and destroyed will suffer the consequences.

Their experiencing the pain and suffering they've ruthlessly subjected others to will be a fate worse than death. Those who have suffered by their doing will know who, what and where.

Having one's crimes exposed to the light of day is excruciatingly painful.

SCPO Blackshoe Retired  posted on  2008-07-15   18:19:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: farmfriend (#9)

...all the more reason to call an Article V Convention...

Not that anyone thinks it would work, but just the act of calling one might restrain some of this if DC is shown that the inmates can restrain or abolish them.

"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!

mirage  posted on  2008-07-15   18:20:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: lodwick, wudidiz, farmfriend, Rotara, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#8)

How can fast-tracking potentially dangerous new drugs and at the same time outlawing some beneficial natural medicines be good for anyone? One must understand that it is also about ensuring huge profits for Big Pharma. Bill C-51 should be rejected on the grounds that it threatens the ability of Canadians to choose alternative health products and treatments.

The Canadian gov't has always been very controlling of its taxpayers' health. This new bill to make vitamins less accessible by labelling them as medications is not surprising frankly.

This is one of the significant downsides of having government run health care - gov't can tell you what you can and can't do with your health; gov't maintains records on your health and on what physicians prescribe and on what pharmacies sell. As an example i our system, Americans are allowed to order 3 months supply for personal use of a drug prescribed by their physician from outside the USA to save money. Canadians are not allowed to do the same. Go figure.

I'm not sure how this bill helps Big Pharma in Canada though. The Canadian gov't allows in the main generic drugs to be prescribed for Canadians. Big Pharma does not make much money in Canada. The reason US citizens pay through the nose for meds here is because Big Pharma socks it to us for the research it does on new drugs that no other nation pays for but from which these same nations benefit later down the line when generics come available.

Frankly I don't see Big Pharma competing with vitamin companies in Canada. This Bill 51 is about government controlling their "subjects" lives. Same old same old.

Here's an article from the Edmonton Journal - less shrill than the article under discussion but with the same concerns expressed. You'll note that US vitamin companies withdrew their products from Canada voluntarily because they didn't want to jump through the hoops and loops to get approval from the new Canadian gov't bureaucracy.

If the US gov't is in on this bill, it means that our gov't is gearing up to implement socialized medicine like in Canada and control our lives and our health choices/decisions per what the Canadian gov't does. Welcome to "free" gubment run medical system.

www.canada.com/edmontonjo...356-98bc-c23e13a9216d&p=1

"Strong medicine for Canada's natural health industry"

John Biggs, The Edmonton Journal

scrapper2  posted on  2008-07-15   18:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#13)

...and trying to clean up my computer and keep it from crashing all at the same time.

Yep, been there for sure.

There is a reliable and trouble free solution that will co-exist with Windows on your machine. Then you'll have a choice.

Check out Puppy Linux.

It's free and in short order will make it possible to really enjoy your computer once again.

SCPO Blackshoe Retired  posted on  2008-07-15   18:47:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: scrapper2, lodwick, wudidiz, Rotara, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#20)

It's Canada's way of complying with codex. See countries that have a trade dispute and go to the world court for action are automatically ruled against if they are not codex compliant.


"You have delusions of adequacy."

farmfriend  posted on  2008-07-15   21:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Rotara (#1)

Enforcers should be considered agents of extreme evil. The highest corporate pirates of the NAU should be held personally accountable for their / companies' actions against WTP and America.

They better back off Americans or there will be a grievous type of he## to pay.

These bastards must think they're invincible. We'll be pushed only so far...and we've just about reached that point.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx

"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx

IndieTX  posted on  2008-07-16   2:00:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: farmfriend, wudidz (#22)

t's Canada's way of complying with codex. See countries that have a trade dispute and go to the world court for action are automatically ruled against if they are not codex compliant.

Chicken egg. whatever. The UN is socialism to the nth degree, gov't control over its "subjects" on steroids.

The Canadian gov't has been pushing this vitamin as drugs thingie in various formats for almost 10 years. It's a done deal and has been for a while. Gov't wants to know every little thing about people so how better to do so than to regulate everything that goes into their mouths.

I'm sorry but Canadians asked for this. They're so happy to let Ottawa control their every waking minute of their lives, why should they be shocked this is happening? They invited it.

We're similar sleepyheads to Canadians but at least we have a voice of reason in one of our politicians - Dr. Ron Paul. No such luck for Canadians.

www.ronpaulforcongress.com/html/healthfreedom.html

scrapper2  posted on  2008-07-16   2:33:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: scrapper2, all (#24)

I was disappointed to learn lately that Tommy Douglas was pro-eugenics.

Certainly puts new light on the subject for me.

We do have at least one voice of reason I know of:

Connie Fogal

Connie Fogal on SPP/NAU

Of course I've never seen her on TV.


"An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-07-16   2:53:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: All, *North American Union* (#25)

North American Union spells political treason


"An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-07-16   2:59:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: wudidiz (#25)

Of course I've never seen her on TV.

And she does not hold an elected political position so she is powerless. Connie does not compare to Dr Paul in stature I'm afraid.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-07-16   3:07:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: scrapper2 (#27)

Connie does not compare to Dr Paul in stature I'm afraid.

I agree. Still, she is a voice and she's all I know of.


"An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

wudidiz  posted on  2008-07-16   3:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: wudidiz (#28)

Looking at your signature, I see you have one of them "powerless" unelected officials who never made a make on the world there. When all in power are outlaws, only the unelected are legal leaders.

Remember that, we serve the truth always, those in power, never.

She has more power then most elected officials iof the truth is on her side. A quote, then I'm off to work:

"A small group of thoughtful people could change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.

Margaret Mead


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-07-16   9:23:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: wudidiz (#25)

Tommy Douglas was the father of socialized medicine in Canada. Tommy Douglas was just a tad shy of being an out of the closet red. Why would you be surprised that Tommy Douglas was pro-eugenics? "Because some of the most pernicious intellectual criminals of the past century wore red they have escaped condemnation."

scrapper2  posted on  2008-07-16   12:00:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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