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Title: Obama not closing race divide - poll
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URL Source: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/st ... 21985,24028904-5005961,00.html
Published: Jul 16, 2008
Author: correspondents in New York
Post Date: 2008-07-16 10:04:16 by christine
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Views: 216
Comments: 10

AMERICANS are sharply divided by race ahead of the first presidential election in which a black candidate will represent a major party, a New York Times/CBS News poll showed today,

The poll found that blacks and whites hold vastly different views of Sen. Barack Obama, an Illinois Democrat who would be the first black president, and are also divided on the state of race relations in the US, the newspaper reported.

In the survey, 83 per cent of blacks had a favorable opinion of Mr Obama, compared with 31 per cent of white voters.

Mr Obama will face John McCain, a white Republican senator from Arizona, in the November 4 presidential election.

On the status of race relations, 59 per cent of black respondents they were generally bad, compared with 34 per cent of whites who thought the same way.

The nationwide telephone poll of 1796 adults showed that 39 per cent of blacks said there had been no real progress in recent years in getting rid of racial discrimination.

Only 17 per cent of whites said the same thing.

Twenty-seven percent of whites said too much had been made of problems facing black people, while half of blacks said not enough had been made of racial barriers faced by black people.

The poll was conducted July 7-14 and had a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

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#1. To: christine (#0) (Edited)

What's humorous about this is that John McLaughlin and Jesse Jackson are both right.

Obama is an Oreo. The blacks don't realize he's actually more white than most whites. The whites apparently just don't like the way he looks (this has been the problem with being a mulatto throughout American history; you still can't "pass"), even if they realize he's an honorary white guy.

Blacks would have probably benefitted more by the policies of Hillary, just comparing her platform to Barack's. Barack was to her right overall and has since moved even closer to the center.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-07-16   10:13:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

As he became identified more as a "black" candidate, he's fallen into a trap of being perceived as the "black" candidate, not as the postracial savior he aspired and projected himself to be.

The Jesse incident was an attempt at negating that; Jesse didn't know he was in a fox tv studio with mikes and all?

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-07-16   13:34:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Sam Houston (#1)

Blacks would have probably benefitted more by the policies of Hillary, just comparing her platform to Barack's. Barack was to her right overall and has since moved even closer to the center.

Say what????

What makes you believe that Obama was "right" of Hillary?

scrapper2  posted on  2008-07-16   13:39:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: scrapper2 (#3)

To cite just one example, his health care plan.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-07-16   16:22:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: scrapper2, Sam Houston (#3)

Blacks would have probably benefitted more by the policies of Hillary, just comparing her platform to Barack's. Barack was to her right overall and has since moved even closer to the center.

Say what????

What makes you believe that Obama was "right" of Hillary?

Look at obama's record in the Senate. obama is THE #1 Liberal establishment neocon! Hillary! is not even close, that witch demon spawn. ;-)

link

Overall in the primaries, obama ran to Hillary!'s 'left' and now the savior is moving 'right' to a degree.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-16   16:46:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Rotara, Sam Houston, All (#5)

Look at obama's record in the Senate. obama is THE #1 Liberal establishment neocon! Hillary! is not even close, that witch demon spawn. ;-)

nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

Overall in the primaries, obama ran to Hillary!'s 'left' and now the savior is moving 'right' to a degree.

Thank you, Rotara.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-07-16   16:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Rotara (#5)

...the savior...

Please, He prefers to be referred to as "The Magnificent Majik Messiah" or simply "3M" by his particularly drooly worshipers.

And don't forget to capitalize the "H" when referring to Him.

Esso  posted on  2008-07-16   17:02:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Esso (#7)

LOL

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-16   17:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: scrapper2, Rotara (#6) (Edited)

On economic issues (the so-called "war" is a wash, because one candidate is hawkish on Iraq and the other on Pakistan, of all places), Obama during this campaign (I never followed his very brief Senate career) has been a bit more "Wall Street-friendly" than Hillary, although neither one is an economic liberal.

It's been a long time since real liberals ran for office in this country and were taken seriously. It will take another depression for them to get any traction. What is now considered "left" used to be viewed as the "center" when I was growing up.

Probably when real liberals begin to emerge, the country will break up, with the liberal states such as Vermont and the rest of the NE leading the secession this time.

BTW, I look forward to that day. This part of the continent should always have comprised at least five or six separate nation-states, if not more. Texas, of course, has always been something of a separate entity. I'd have no problem at all with the term "Texan" once again designating a citizen of the republic of Texas.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-07-16   18:07:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Sam Houston (#9) (Edited)

On economic issues (the so-called "war" is a wash, because one candidate is hawkish on Iraq and the other on Pakistan, of all places), Obama during this campaign (I never followed his very brief Senate career) has been a bit more "Wall Street-friendly" than Hillary, although neither one is an economic liberal.

It's been a long time since real liberals ran for office in this country and were taken seriously. It will take another depression for them to get any traction. What is now considered "left" used to be viewed as the "center" when I was growing up.

Probably when real liberals begin to emerge, the country will break up, with the liberal states such as Vermont and the rest of the NE leading the secession this time.

BTW, I look forward to that day. This part of the continent should always have comprised at least five or six separate nation-states, if not more. Texas, of course, has always been something of a separate entity. I'd have no problem at all with the term "Texan" once again designating a citizen of the republic of Texas.

Haaaahahahaha!

Have a great day S H! ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-16   18:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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