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Title: Pennsylvania Youths Beat Mexican Immigrant to Death, Expose Racial Tensions
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URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,386322,00.html
Published: Jul 19, 2008
Author: AP
Post Date: 2008-07-19 06:20:24 by Disgusted
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Views: 405
Comments: 26
SHENANDOAH, Pennsylvania — Luis Ramirez came to the U.S. from Mexico six years ago to look for work, landing in this town in Pennsylvania's coal region. Here, he found steady employment, fathered two children and, his fiancee said, occasionally endured harassment by white residents. Now he is headed back to Mexico in a coffin. The 25-year-old illegal immigrant was beaten over the weekend after an argument with a group of youths, including at least some players on the town's high school football team, police said. Despite witness reports that the attackers yelled ethnic slurs, authorities say the beating wasn't racially motivated. Hate crime or not, the killing has exposed long-simmering tensions in Shenandoah, a blue-collar town of 5,000 about 80 miles northwest of Philadelphia that has a growing number of Hispanic residents drawn by jobs in factories and farm fields. Pennsylvania has been the site of immigration disputes in the past. The City Council in Hazleton, Pennsylvania, just 17 miles from Shenandoah, in 2006 approved an Illegal Immigration Relief Act, which sought to deny business permits to companies that employ illegal immigrants and to fine landlords who rent to them. With Congress deadlocked over how address illegal immigration, many municipalities across the country have passed similar laws. A federal judge later struck down Hazleton's ordinance as unconstitutional, but other such laws have been upheld. An investigation continues, and no charges have yet been filed, but police say as many as six teens were involved in the fight, which ended with Ramirez in convulsions and foaming at the mouth. He died early Monday of head injuries. Crystal Dillman, the victim's 24-year-old fiancee, who is white and grew up here, said Ramirez was often called derogatory names, including "dirty Mexican," and told to return to his homeland. "People in this town are very racist toward Hispanic people. They think right away if you're Mexican, you're illegal, and you're no good," said Dillman, who has two young children by Ramirez and a 3-year-old who thought of him as her father. On Dillman's fireplace mantel hangs a medallion of Jesus that Ramirez was wearing the night he was beaten. Ramirez had an imprint of the medallion on his chest, marking where an assailant stomped on him, she said. Shenandoah Police Chief Matthew Nestor acknowledged there have been problems as the community — the birthplace of big band musicians Tommy and Jimmy Dorsey and home of Mrs. T's Pierogies — has tried to adjust to an influx of Hispanics, who now make up as much as 10 percent of the population. Teenagers have sprayed racially tinged graffiti and yelled racial slurs at the newcomers, he said. "Things are definitely not the way they used to be even 10 years ago. Things have changed here radically," Nestor said. "Some people could adapt to the changes, and some just have a difficult time doing it. ... Yeah, there is tension at times. You can't deny that." Police are still interviewing suspects and witnesses. Preliminarily, though, they have determined that Ramirez, who worked in a factory and picked strawberries and cherries, got into an argument with a group of youths that escalated into a fight in which he was badly outnumbered. "From what we understand right now, it wasn't racially motivated," Nestor said. "This looks like a street fight that went wrong." Retired Philadelphia police officer Eileen Burke, who lives on the street where the fight occurred, told The Associated Press she heard a youth scream at one of Ramirez's friends after the beating to tell her Mexican friends to get out of Shenandoah "or you're going to be laying next to him." Shenandoah Valley High School principal Phillip Andras said he knew little about the alleged involvement of any football players. A call by the AP to the athletic director was referred to the principal. But the players' possible involvement has added to interest in the case. Football, along with the town's many block parties and festivals, is a major attraction; home games typically draw thousands of fans. Arielle Garcia and her husband, who were with Ramirez when he was beaten late Saturday, said they had dropped their friend off at a park but returned when he called to say he had gotten into a fight. She saw someone kick Ramirez in the head, she said, and "that's when he started shaking and foaming out of the mouth." The Garcias said they heard the youths call Ramirez "stupid Mexican" and an ethnic slur. Burke, the former Philadelphia officer, said she saw shirtless youths swarming around Ramirez, called 911 and went outside, when she heard a youth yell obscenities and make the get-out-of-Shenandoah remark. Despite the witness statements, Borough Manager Joseph Palubinsky said he doesn't believe Ramirez's ethnicity was what prompted the fight: "I have reason to know the kids who were involved, the families who were involved, and I've never known them to harbor this type of feeling."
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#1. To: Disgusted (#0)
the way young people have the penchant for kicking people in the head nowdays while fighting is very disturbing and indicative of the demonic forces at work in them. Who else would kick a fellow human being in the head, for any reason other than a life and death fight of self defense? also, i dont think that govt has the authority to 'charge' landlords for renting to people whom that very same govt purposely allows in by the millions. govt just wants the money and to steal the homes from the landlords.
MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." Are you oblivious to UFC and cage fighting on the tube. BIG BIG BIG.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
This illegal immigration scam is being played out as planned.
This is a bigger problem its called Xhenophobia recently witnessed in South Africa and even in LA a few years ago...one can dismiss this as a illegals problems and got what was coming however I see it as the reason to give up on the concept of multiculturalism
I can't think of a nation, during any point in history, where the concept of has been a success. We're on the road to a national suicide and we're powerless to stop it. Our educational system welcomes it, out political class and some of our white leftist friends likewise welcome it. There usefulness will wane in time, and when it does it will be too late.
We're not powerless, not completely. We felt real power together in DC last Saturday. It may have been partially an illusion, but unity is important. There are successful strategies and losing strategies. We have to think. If we can't out-think the opposition, we will lose.
I recall the Perot crowds in PA in the early 90s, the Buchanan get togethers in the mid 90s and even the FReeper impeachment event in DC in '98? And here we are 10 years removed. I admit I'm more than a little jaded in this slop called a system. When the influence of global money meets the few thousand of us who can muster at the DC mall, the former will win every time. Violence is the last and best answer to changing government. When, where and if that happens is anyone's guess, but Thomas Jefferson had it right.
Cigarette Cop We are a society of Nazis, as this poor man found out.
If you're right, then you'll still need LEOs and military on the side of freedom. You will also need intellectuals who truly understand and feel compelled to persuade others.
Nice cig cop video...we're almost there.
Bad enough the cops are Nazi's, but now we have rat neighbors, turning in folks just living their lives. I actually saw a commercial, where a kid - maybe 14 - was using a yellow colored radar gun to gauge the speed of cars near a school zone. I wish I had more details, but I just caught the end of it and frankly I was in shock. Somebody is going to hurt one of these little govt. informers.
Thomas Jefferson v Mahatma Gandhi
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Very mixed bag, but enough to work with. The brain dead jug heads, though, are ending up back home in the Police State. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Uncle Snitch? Kind of like the stasi that the National Party has encouraged? ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Rats If all of Pinellas County, FL fell into a sink hole this afternoon, I'd be throwing a very serious party by sundown. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Let's not forget that PA Gov. Ed Rendell (a nize, Chooish boy) tried hard to remind Pennsylvanians that they are racists so Hillary would win the nomination. He encouraged this in fact. Of course, all of the locals including police respond to the absurdities of obvious black on white race crimes elsewhere that are ruled as "not racially motivated" by making a similar determination in the case of this poor Mexican who was stomped to death. So, we're all waiting for the catalyst, some atrocity to occur that will ignite the inevitable racial conflict.
That's the feeling that I have. Just waiting for someone/something to light the powder keg.
Just waiting for someone/something to light the powder keg. Like "Oboom!"? ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
lol - maybe, but I don't think that his minders will let him get that far off the plantation. But they'll find some stooge(s) to get things going.
I was talking more about the establishment taking another one down (obama) and using it to their benefit.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
This is so utterly disgusting..........I hope the perps see Sparky, a rope, or the needle. This senseless killing has to stop. No one deserves to die this way.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
This 'inevitable' conflict will occur, I believe, if and when barry boy loses. Cripes, they riot when their football teams win a championship and try to burn down half the city; they riot when they believe they are being denied something or other so they burn down the city; they riot when they believe they can't get any 'justice'.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
You may have missed my post in response to this threat from certain waiting-to-riot-folks if Obama loses. First, I don't believe that he will lose. But, if he does then my question is, "Hoo kares"" What do I care if "them hot blooded other peepul" burn down their own neighborhoods and Korean grocery stores? Because as usual if they attempt to branch out into white residential neighborhoods they'll be met with withering gunfire from unbelievably powerful firearms, such as .50 Barretts, .340, .378 and .460 Weatherby Magnum Griz rifles, and whatever black asses the big game rifles don't drill through and through clear to the nearest backstops will be hosed with Mini-14s, ARs, Garands, shotguns, etc., and them young, would-be Mau Mau fellers will soon see the error of their ways for having pissed off ol' Mr. Pale Face, country music fan! It's almost unfair to allow th' bruthas to believe that timid white folks will be reliably chicken if attacked in our neighborhoods. And, I suspect that many blacks assume that because whites don't feature prominently on the nightly knife & gun club activity reports the way "underprivileged inner city victims of systemic white 'scriminayshun" do. If they riot once again and darken the skies with arson smoke I'll do what I've always done since MLK was murdered. I'll shake my head and say "Ain't it a shame?", and wait for the story about how racist the postal service is for failing to deliver the mother's day checks at the end of the month. I'll watch Rep. Maxine Waters and Big Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson rant about the "further insult to injury" because "the suffering community can't git dey dam welfare chex". The fact that black mail carriers are also too frightened to go into the hoods won't be a factor in the discussions. But, we know that any black with a job in general and a gummint job in particular may be considered the enemy and they cannot be faulted for reluctance to deliver mail wearing "da man's slave suit".
uh huh..there ain't no Cohen Act yet!
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#2. To: Artisan (#1)
#3. To: Disgusted (#0)
Now he is headed back to Mexico in a coffin.
#4. To: Artisan (#1)
#5. To: Jethro Tull (#4)
#6. To: robnoel (#5)
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I see it as the reason to give up on the concept of multiculturalism
#7. To: Jethro Tull (#6)
#8. To: buckeye (#7)
#9. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
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"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#10. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
#11. To: Ferret Mike (#9)
#12. To: Ferret Mike (#9)
#13. To: Jethro Tull, buckeye (#8)
LOL
#14. To: buckeye (#10)
If you're right, then you'll still need LEOs and military on the side of freedom.
#15. To: Jethro Tull (#12)
Bad enough the cops are Nazi's, but now we have rat neighbors, turning in folks just living their lives. I actually saw a commercial, where a kid - maybe 14 - was using a yellow colored radar gun to gauge the speed of cars near a school zone. I wish I had more details, but I just caught the end of it and frankly I was in shock. Somebody is going to hurt one of these little govt. informers.
#16. To: Rotara, Mike, buckeye, all (#15)
#17. To: Jethro Tull (#16)
Citizen Police Academy
#18. To: Disgusted, angle, Jethro Tull, lodwick, christine, rowdee (#0)
#19. To: HOUNDDAWG. the thread (#18)
So, we're all waiting for the catalyst, some atrocity to occur that will ignite the inevitable racial conflict.
#20. To: lodwick (#19)
That's the feeling that I have.
#21. To: Rotara (#20)
#22. To: lodwick (#21)
lol - maybe, but I don't think that his minders will let him get that far off the plantation. But they'll find some stooge(s) to get things going
#23. To: Disgusted (#0)
#24. To: HOUNDDAWG (#18)
So, we're all waiting for the catalyst, some atrocity to occur that will ignite the inevitable racial conflict.
#25. To: rowdee, Jethro Tull, Lodwick, christine (#24)
#26. To: HOUNDDAWG (#25)
Because as usual if they attempt to branch out into white residential neighborhoods they'll be met with withering gunfire from unbelievably powerful firearms, such as .50 Barretts, .340, .378 and .460 Weatherby Magnum Griz rifles, and whatever black asses the big game rifles don't drill through and through clear to the nearest backstops will be hosed with Mini-14s, ARs, Garands, shotguns, etc., and them young, would-be Mau Mau fellers will soon see the error of their ways for having pissed off ol' Mr. Pale Face, country music fan!
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