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Title: Obama: Healthcare for Illegals
Source: Newsmax
URL Source: http://www.newsmax.com/morris/obama ... lthcare/2008/07/21/114994.html
Published: Jul 22, 2008
Author: Dick Morris & Eileen McGann
Post Date: 2008-07-22 12:04:16 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 253
Comments: 14

Democrats' single most important domestic proposal — universal health insurance — may blow up in Barack Obama's face when voters are exposed to the deadly details.

Obama has said, proudly and often, "I am going to give health insurance to 47 million Americans who are now without coverage." But are they "Americans?"

That 47 million statistic includes illegal immigrants, who virtually all lack insurance. In fact, about one in four of those lacking insurance is here illegally. And they are, by far, the group most in need of health insurance.

About 15 million of the remaining uninsured are eligible for Medicaid but haven't signed up, mainly because they haven't gotten sick. When they do, they enroll in Medicaid and we pick up the full tab for their health care relatively cheaply. (About 80 percent of each Medicaid dollar goes to nursing-home care for the elderly, only about 20 percent for the medical needs of the poor.)

The rest of the uninsured pool? Virtually all the children are eligible for the State Children's Health Insurance Program. Some aren't enrolled because the parents haven't bothered, but most are eligible. That leaves about 20 million uninsured adults who are US citizens or legal immigrants. There are far better ways to handle their needs than to turn our entire health-care system upside down.

Care for illegals is the biggest unmet medical need in our nation, and Obama's program targets it squarely. But do we really want to give them federally paid coverage equal to what US senators get, as Obama proposes?

Covering illegals adds dramatically to the cost of any program - and would encourage more folks to enter America illicitly.

Obama's plan will likely have a horrific effect on some local health-care systems.

Illegals now get free emergency-room treatment for life-threatening conditions, as any other American who's entered an ER in an area with lots of illegals recently well knows. (Three-quarters of the illegal-immigrant population is concentrated in five states: California, New York, Florida, Texas and Illinois.)

But now they'd be eligible for the entire range of medical services, all free of charge. That would trigger severe rationing: bureaucrats deciding who gets to see an oncologist, who can have an MRI - and even who can have bypass surgery and who'd die for lack of it.

These decisions would be made not on the basis of legal status but on the brutal facts of triage: Treat the 37-year-old illegal with his whole life to live before you spend scarce resources on an overweight, diabetic, 80-year-old citizen with high blood pressure who smokes.

John McCain hasn't raised this issue, perhaps for fear of offending the Latino vote. But polling suggests the case against rationing of health care would be as persuasive to Hispanic-American citizens as it is to the rest of us. Nobody wants to die waiting in line - especially not behind someone who snuck in ahead of us.

McCain needs to hit the Obama plan for treating illegal immigrants to free, federally subsidized health insurance — and hit it hard.


Poster Comment:

I posted this because it gives us an insight into the nature of the uninsured. However the author underestimates the number of illegal aliens.

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The health insurance problem is just as big as Obama states. Not that I like Obama. 46 million at least are uninsured and the number grows every year. The other problem is the underinsured, people who pay $1200 per month for insurance (i.e. me)and then must pay $16,000 per year in out-of-pocket costs before getting substantial insurance coverage. Even the upper middle class in the US are foregoing medical care.

The problem is: insurance companies care more about showing profitability and dividends than providing care. Insurance company executives receive salaries in the 10s or 100s of millions.

A National Insurance program which eliminates the insane profits might be better than what we have got. Just do not make healthcare completely free, because that leaves a system open to abusers who can't resist freebees.

I've spent thirty years in medicine trying to work with insurance companies and no other business would get away with their tricks and deceptions. Depceptions like a Managed Care Company who change their mailing address monthly and will not accept forwarded mail. To get them to accept claims and pay claims, I had to have an employee deliver claims in person and insist on a signed receipt. Before I left private practice, over half my 35K a month overhead was directly related to hiring employees to interface with insurance companies. Then there was the time spent by myself on the phone, filling out forms, and dictating letters to beg for my patients to get necessary proceedures or meds.

Now I practice only in a hospital, and every week, the care I deliver drives someone into bankruptcy. I do not have the option of not charging, insurance companies have made that illegal. You can't give someone free care while charging them for another patients' care. I admit from the ER people with no or insufficient insurance who waited way too long to seek care and now are ICU rather than general medical patients.

The system is broke and decaying rapidly.

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#7. To: octavia, scrapper2, Original_Intent, Hayek Fan, Cynicom (#3)

ping to octavia's post from a dr's pov....

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