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Title: An Hour with US Senator Jim Webb
Source: Charlie Rose Show
URL Source: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi ... ur_with_us_senator_jim_we.html
Published: Jul 23, 2008
Author: Video
Post Date: 2008-07-23 08:56:27 by iconoclast
Keywords: Election 2008, hope, change
Views: 353
Comments: 25

A significant element in our opportunity for return to the long path back to American political common sense.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Six hours and the cowardly hate mongerers are still "no-shows".

Hmmm.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-07-23   15:15:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: iconoclast (#1) (Edited)

cowardly hate mongerers

to whom are you referring?

fyi, i watched the interview. webb is less aggressive and makes more sense in his rhetoric regarding Afghanistan and Pakistan than is/does obama. that's probably because obama is being managed and told what to say while webb, not in the presidential race, can say what he thinks...and, actually, he said that's the reason he's not interested in the VP spot.

incidentally, i'm sure this interview would have garnered more interest among 4um'ers had he still been a contender. at this point, he's just another democrat politician who's a proponent of the WOT and the Bin Laden did 911 myth.

christine  posted on  2008-07-23   16:07:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine, Rupert_Pupkin, Jethro Tull (#3)

incidentally, i'm sure this interview would have garnered more interest among 4um'ers had he still been a contender.

christine, the post had nothing to do with "contenders" of course, that train left the station some time ago. Now we're approaching nut cutting time and our choice is four more years of Republican ideas (74% of Americans say we're on the wrong path) or new philosophies (read Main St. versus Wall St.). The November election is not the political super bowl and votes are not fantasy football choices based on habit and/or emotion. Of course Webb will exert more influence in the Senate than he would in a corner office of the White House. The point is that folks like Obama, Webb, Nunn, and others will simply provide superior leadership to that of the same ole same ole.

Rupert, Webb's decision is based on the reasons I have stated above. American politics is, and always has been, a sausage factory. The Veep role is still essentially not worth a "bucket of hot spit" as old Cactus Jack said many moons ago (I believe the word he actually used was piss). It usually goes to a "harmless individual" (read Bill Miller), an ambitious political hack (read Al Gore),or for "balance" (read the tragic selection of G. W. H. Bush in 1980). This years selections may be telling.

Jim Webb might, or might not be a good guy ...your ebony god is in Israel courting dual citizen, Jewish voters.

Yeah sure JT, and John Boner and his Senate neighbor across the river, the odious McConnell, may or may not be air-headed, trough-feeding, good little political soldiers.

I didn't wake up one morning and catch Obama appearing on some college campus, thereby converting me into an Obama "worshiper". No, I made up my mind well before this election ... evidence? I voted against that wienie DeWine in 2006, my first vote for a Dem at the national level in 50 years.

As to emotion-based election thinking, yes, I fell early on for Dr. Paul like a high school majorette, but soon recognized that he had the chance of a fart in a hurricane of having any short run influence on the direction of the country. This year's vote is all about a direction changing U-turn, period.

Jewish-vote pandering? You 'splain it to me (???). Hell, there must be more Chinese restaurants in this country than Jewish voters ... yet every politician of both parties finds it necessary to make his/her pilgrimage to the wailing wall.

Voting this particular time in any way that promotes "four more years" makes as much sense as buying a dryrot infested wooden boat. This year the election will not be decided by that portion of the electorate found amongst us, i.e., the profound political thinkers that will still vote on the basis that all R's are God's chosen people and all D's are "Commies" .... in other words, the 29%'ers.

Parenthetically, with reference to Webb's "neo-confederate leanings" one can only conclude that he does not share the terror of many here that we whites are gonna wake up four years from now in the plantation cabins.

A somewhat more likely alternative is that the south may return to the Dem party in significant numbers. Thus, if a real conservative party should actually arise from the ashes they will have to win back the south without simply appealing to enough redneck jingoes and snake handlers to carry that geography.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-07-24   9:23:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: iconoclast (#7) (Edited)

How do McCain and obama differ on foreign policy?

On domestic policy, Obama will be LBJ squared, so I do concede he will forever change what is left of America.

Again, limit your answer to how McCain and Obama differ on foreign policy.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-07-24   9:57:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

Again, limit your answer to how McCain and Obama differ on foreign policy.

Obama = jaw jaw

McCain = war war

iconoclast  posted on  2008-07-24   12:22:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: iconoclast (#9)

Obama = jaw jaw

McCain = war war

Still no answer?

Your ebony god is about to make hundreds of thousands of kids in Afghanistan orphans and all you can do is mumble slogans?

White guilt is a terrible affliction.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-07-24   12:45:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

Your ebony god is about to make hundreds of thousands of kids in Afghanistan orphans and all you can do is mumble slogans?

Democrat goals/objectives are very limited ..... al-Qaeda, period.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-07-24   17:44:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: iconoclast (#15) (Edited)

Democrat goals/objectives are very limited ..... al-Qaeda, period.

al-Qaeda and bin Laden are why he's going in.

There is NO Afghan end game proposed by Obama. This is the same mistake the Soviets made there and it was ours in Vietnam.

If the Bush buid up to Iraq angered you, the exact same feelings should be with you now.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-07-24   17:52:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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