Title: Obama, One Worlder Nutcase Source:
breitbart URL Source:http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=138183 Published:Jul 24, 2008 Author:Obama (or his idiot speechwriters) Post Date:2008-07-24 20:30:29 by James Deffenbach Keywords:None Views:1893 Comments:120
Talking to a crowd in Germany, he said: "Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen -- a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world."
Facts are he will be Americas next President which means Israel will attack Iran within the month....
Iran Faces `All Options' Over Atomic Work, Israeli General Says
By Jonathan Ferziger
July 24 (Bloomberg) -- Israel's top military commander said he told U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney and Pentagon officials that both countries must be ready to use force to stop Iran's nuclear development program if diplomacy fails.
``We all realize, both the Americans and us, that all options must be prepared,'' Lieutenant-General Gabi Ashkenazi said in an interview from Washington on Israel Radio. ``There is no doubt that diplomacy must be given priority.''
Ashkenazi, Israel's military chief of staff, is in Washington all week for talks with the U.S. on strategic cooperation amid escalating tensions with Iran.
Iran test-fired a missile on July 9 that it said was capable of reaching Israel. U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the next day that Iran will have to confront ``the power and capability of the United States'' if it attacks Israel.
Ashkenazi said he met with Cheney and held talks with top military officials at the Pentagon. He is scheduled today to meet with Admiral Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
#11. To: robnoel, iconoclast, Ferret Mike, aristeides, robin, Brian S, Red Jones, Pinguinite, nolu_chan, a vast rightwing conspirator (#10)
Facts are he will be Americas next President which means Israel will attack Iran within the month....
Why the rush "to do" Iran now?
Better to wait until T.H.E. Messiah assumes the WH throne what with an overwhelming win in the November elections. Then there were will be all those Obamaphile freedom fighters and/or their children and nephews and nieces waiting in the wings and so eager to respond to their hero's call to "National Service", ie fighting for Israel...ahem, I mean, America...in the desert sands of Iran...that can be a their "cakewalk" tour of military action before they are "re-deployed" to hunting OBL in the rugged mountains of Afghanistan and to liberating the genocided Darfurians and starving Zimbabians.
Everyone on s2's ping list: come back, you've been missed. You know this is going nowhere good.
Despite the puzzlement and disappointment of Obama's actions and statements re Israel, even taken all together they do not trump the WMD/Fear/War mantra of McCain's intentions for a Bush III administration.
Ico, I'll send you $100 dollars to be forwarded to the Obama campaign if you
can give me one solid reason we should become entangled in Afghanistan,
Obama's war of choice.
You know enough apparently to only be dangerous to yourself and others. ;-)
Says the one who believes God cares more about Israel than any other place on the planet? Says the one who can quote Hal Lindsey with a straight face? Says the one who thinks the rapture is actually a biblical doctrine?
Give me a break mister. These are the ways that Americans are being sucker-punched in the gut by secular Israel. Now who would want that to happen?
Says the one who believes God cares more about Israel than any other place on the planet? Says the one who can quote Hal Lindsey with a straight face? Says the one who thinks the rapture is actually a biblical doctrine?
Write your own Bible then! It doesn't change what God's says!
What does the Bible actually say about all that? And when have I ever said anything about the 'rapture' other than whenever He comes, I'm going with Him?
Do you even know anything on the subject or do you just parrot other bizarros that hate Jews and Israel??
Write your own Bible then! It doesn't change what God's says!
What does the Bible actually say about all that? And when have I ever said anything about the 'rapture' other than whenever He comes, I'm going with Him?
Do you even know anything on the subject or do you just parrot other bizarros that hate Jews and Israel??
Oh my, buc, I think we've got ourselves a Christian Zionist in our midst. Who knew but you? I must have been blind.
Yo, rotara, He has already come - it was about 2000 years ago. Sorry you missed Him.
#117. To: iconoclast, James Deffenach, Rotara, buckeye, christine, Original_Intent, rowdee (#116)
Rotara: Are there ANY other America first believers on this site but me?
James Deffenbach: You know there are.
iconoclast: BTW, don't leave me out of that category.
James and iconoclast, did you actually read and understand what Rotara's unique definition of "America first" involves before you signed up with the plan?
I'm just curious, that's all.
Anyone can call label himself any thing, but the self-described label is meaningless unless you have a frame of reference.
I would wager that everyone who posts on this site - a political discussion forum - loves America. Absolutely. Why else would posters display such passion and invest so much time and energy to discuss how different political events here and abroad affect our nation? We all love America, even when we criticize our government.
But to describe oneself as America First - I use upper case for First unlike Rotara who uses lower case for first - it really means that one puts America FIRST, that there is no other nation on this planet that can share your loyalty or patriotism. America First means undivided and single nation-love.
I am an America Firster. I have zero split national loyalty or patriotism. America comes First. Thusly, I would never ever - no never - advocate American blood and treasure being used for the defense and security for any other nation but America.
But for Rotara, it would appear that his love, loyalty, patriotism for America is divided with his affection for a foreign nation, that nation being, Israel.
Rotara seems to believe that America is inextricably tied to Israel at the hip through Biblical prophecy or at least Rotara's reading of the Bible. Rotara conflates literal Biblical scripture reading of a mythical Israel with what America's foreign policy should be - putting America's and only America's interests first. In Rotara's view America and Israel are not separate nation-states. Rotara sees America as sharing a destiny with Israel. I do not share that view. That shared Biblical destiny view of Rotara's is antithical to what I feel defines being an America Firster. And keep in mind that even when it is not in America's best interests, Rotara believes that we cannot cut our foreign entanglements with Israel. Rotara has intimated that even if Israel's interests are not shared by America, even if Israel's needs are detrimental/at odds with America's needs, he sees the 2 nations as inextricably united come hell or high water.
So James and iconoclast, now that you know the context, the frame of reference of Rotara's unique definition of America first, do you still count yourselves as sharing and supporting Rotara's definition, wherein your loyalties are divided between 2 nations, not just associated with America; that you two like Rotara call yourselves America first believers, the spelling of first being a weak and wobbly lower case "first"?
#118. To: scrapper2, James Deffenach, Rotara (#117)
James and iconoclast, did you actually read and understand what Rotara's unique definition of "America first" involves before you signed up with the plan?
I don't give a damn what HIS definition is.
My frame of reference is as a lifetime populist, (Bob Taft) paleo-conservative.