Title: Obama, One Worlder Nutcase Source:
breitbart URL Source:http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=138183 Published:Jul 24, 2008 Author:Obama (or his idiot speechwriters) Post Date:2008-07-24 20:30:29 by James Deffenbach Keywords:None Views:1339 Comments:120
Talking to a crowd in Germany, he said: "Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen -- a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world."
At least he doesn't believe in the rapture, or that Jews continue to be God's chosen people, or that Israel's disposition matters one iota to us.
What do you know about the Bible? Please enlighten all of us. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama pledged steadfast aid to Afghanistan in talks with its Western-backed leader Sunday and vowed to pursue the waronterror "with vigor" if he is elected, an Afghan official said.
On the second day of an international tour designed to burnish his foreign policy credentials, Obama and other U.S. senators held two hours of talks with President Hamid Karzai at his palace in the Afghan capital.
Obama has chided Karzai for not doing more to build confidence in the Afghan government, whose grip remains weak after the ouster of the Taliban in 2001.
U.S. Embassy spokesman Mark Stroh said the senators had discussed issues including the painstaking rebuilding of the country's government and economy, the security situation and corruption with Karzai.
The Afghan presidency said Obama's message was positive.
"Sen. Obama conveyed ... that he is committed to supporting Afghanistan and to continue the war against terrorism with vigor," said Humayun Hamidzada, Karzai's spokesman.
Both Democrats and Republicans "are friends of Afghanistan and no matter who wins the U.S. elections, Afghanistan will have a very strong partner in the United States," Hamidzada said.
Obama has made Afghanistan a centerpiece of his proposed strategy for dealing with terrorism threats.
The Illinois senator has said the war in Afghanistan, where Taliban and al-Qaida-linked militants are resurgent, deserves more troops and more attention as opposed to the conflict in Iraq.
While officially part of a congressional delegation on a fact-finding tour also expected to take him to Iraq, Obama traveled in Afghanistan amid the security accorded a likely Democratic nominee for president rather than a senator from Illinois.
Media access to Obama was limited, and his itinerary in the war zones was closely guarded. Traveling with him were Sens. Chuck Hagel, a Nebraska Republican, and Jack Reed, a Democrat from Rhode Island.
Obama made no public comment after the meeting with Karzai, which included a traditional lunch of mutton, chicken and rice washed down with a yogurt drink.
Earlier in the day, he praised U.S. troops during breakfast with soldiers at Camp Eggers, a heavily fortified military base in the city.
"To see young people like this who are doing such excellent work, with so much dedication ... it makes you feel good about the country," Obama said.
"I want to make sure that everybody back home understands how much pride people take in their work here and how much sacrifice people are making. It is outstanding," he said in footage filmed by the military and obtained by The Associated Press.
On Saturday, the delegation received briefings from U.S. commanders and a former Afghan warlord who is now the governor of Nangarhar, a province in eastern Afghanistan where militant attacks are spiraling.
Obama's first overseas tour since securing the Democratic nomination _ he is scheduled to travel to Europe through next week _ could be key to honing his foreign policy strategy with less than four months before the Nov. 4 election. His rival for the presidency, Republican Sen. John McCain, has criticized Obama for not spending more time in the region.
Obama advocates ending the U.S. combat role in Iraq by withdrawing troops at the rate of one to two brigades a month while increasing the military commitment to Afghanistan. Obama has proposed sending two more combat brigades _ about 7,000 troops _ to Afghanistan. McCain also is advocating sending more forces to the war-battered country.
U.S. military officials say the number of attacks in eastern Afghanistan, where most of the U.S. forces in the country operate, has increased by 40 percent so far this year compared to the same period last year.
Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, told The Associated Press on Saturday that after intense U.S. assaults there, al-Qaida may be considering shifting focus to its original home base in Afghanistan, where American casualties are recently running higher than in Iraq.
Obama also has expressed weariness with efforts by Afghanistan's neighbor, Pakistan, to go after militants in its territory. That frustration may strike a chord with Karzai, who has accused Pakistan's intelligence service of supporting the Taliban insurgency _ a claim that Pakistan denies.
But Obama also has chided Karzai and his government, saying it had "not gotten out of the bunker" and helped to organize the country or its political and security institutions.
No, Christians are. No wait, Americans are. No, wait.. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
If ANYONE knows the truth about 911, it's Fobama and mcCain. So, the 'War on Terra' continues regardless. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
You know enough apparently to only be dangerous to yourself and others. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Madness is antagonizing Pakistan, a nation that maybe has not been the best ally 100% of the time, but which has not been too bad all things considered.
Pakistan is a desperately impoverished, ill educated, rag-tag excuse for nation. What do you expect them to do ... march across two continents and then march on top of the Atlantic to attack us? We have no intention invading them in any real sense of the word (we only just recently carried out bombings in the wasteland where bin Laden is holed up).
Your fear of this mock nation defines you as a pitiful coward.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
You know enough apparently to only be dangerous to yourself and others. ;-)
Says the one who believes God cares more about Israel than any other place on the planet? Says the one who can quote Hal Lindsey with a straight face? Says the one who thinks the rapture is actually a biblical doctrine?
Give me a break mister. These are the ways that Americans are being sucker-punched in the gut by secular Israel. Now who would want that to happen?
Says the one who believes God cares more about Israel than any other place on the planet? Says the one who can quote Hal Lindsey with a straight face? Says the one who thinks the rapture is actually a biblical doctrine?
Write your own Bible then! It doesn't change what God's says!
What does the Bible actually say about all that? And when have I ever said anything about the 'rapture' other than whenever He comes, I'm going with Him?
Do you even know anything on the subject or do you just parrot other bizarros that hate Jews and Israel??
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
No, genius, the Pakis won't travel across 2 continents and an ocean to fight us here. If we mess with the Pakis, they'll drag us into an increasingly dragged out conflict there. First it will be Special Forces then it will be the Marines and then we've got ourselves into a guerilla warfare situation with Paki civilians nailing our soldiers left and right.
Write your own Bible then! It doesn't change what God's says!
What does the Bible actually say about all that? And when have I ever said anything about the 'rapture' other than whenever He comes, I'm going with Him?
Do you even know anything on the subject or do you just parrot other bizarros that hate Jews and Israel??
Oh my, buc, I think we've got ourselves a Christian Zionist in our midst. Who knew but you? I must have been blind.
Yo, rotara, He has already come - it was about 2000 years ago. Sorry you missed Him.
Write your own Bible then! It doesn't change what God's says!
The Bible does not lend itself well to Lindsey's tortured interpretations, and if you can extract that out of it, you're twisting it around as well as anyone is. The fact is that this doctrine was injected into the Protestant church for the benefit of the British empire.
And one more thing: putting America and its own land first in my allegiance in no way has anything to do with hating Jews and Israel. Obviously things our out of proportion here with our pro-Israel warring in the Mideast. Until Israel means no more than the Falkland islands to Americans, this will go on, guaranteed.
That it goes on is going to be the destruction of America. American Jews are welcome to join me in putting America first. We know of many who do. The fact is that without bastardized interpretations of the bible haunting their every thought, most American Christians would be content to protect America first and treat Israel like any other country. That's impossible as long as they believe in mistaken doctrines.
Write your own Bible then! It doesn't change what God's says!
What does the Bible actually say about all that? And when have I ever said anything about the 'rapture' other than whenever He comes, I'm going with Him?
Do you even know anything on the subject or do you just parrot other bizarros that hate Jews and Israel??
Oh my, buc, I think we've got ourselves a Christian Zionizt in our midst. Who knew but you? I must have been blind.
Yo, rotara, He has already come - it was about 2000 years ago. Sorry you missed Him.
I'll take God's Word over you two clowns every day of the week.
I am a Christian, yes absolutely.
You that claim to be (maybe) and yet hate Israel and Jews will have much to answer for, as much or more than the monsters in America and Israel that do their master, the anti-Christ's, bidding.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
#63. To: buckeye, PLUS ANY OTHER BELIEVERS BESIDES ME (#61)
Who knew but you?
I know their arguments well.
Are there ANY other America first believers on this site but me?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
You're the Christian Zionist preacher. Quote your passages, with hyperlinks.
That's what I thought. You have no idea what God's Word actually says.
You NAZIs are easy to spot and very predictable.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Saying you're America first, but believing Israel is hallowed ground and that you believe in a final conflict over Israel that requires you to participate are incompatible.
Re religion, never argue or discuss such with anyone.
I know you're right, but this is one of the top three issues of our time. Americans have to recognize that America is their promised land, not somewhere else. It was promised to them by their forefathers and the men and women who founded this country. I think God would want them to appreciate that worldly gift above most others.
Saying you're America first, but believing Israel is hallowed ground and that you believe in a final conflict over Israel that requires you to participate are incompatible.
What does the Bible say? You don't even know what it says, it's very obvious.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
It does not tell me to fight for Israel, or that my town is less hallowed than Palestine today.
Which of us is fighting for Israel?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Israel is just a piece of dirt in someone else's country. Period.
I'm not advocating that our nation defy the Constitution for Israel or anyone else.
However, it appears that most here on Freedom4um that have issues attacking and destroying sovereign nations don't give Israel the same turn.
Why is that do you suppose? Hmmm.
One could say they hardly blame Israelis/Hebrews/Jews for saying "never again" as this ugly anti-Christ spirit gains more strength. Yet again.
Ah, the history of those chosen to bring down the 10 Commandments!
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
One could say they hardly blame Israelis/Hebrews/Jews for saying "never again" as this ugly anti-Christ spirit gains more strength.
That is their right, but it is not our concern, not at all. However, they are demanding that it be made our concern. On what basis can they make this claim? None. Absolutely none at all.
We have our own issues to tend.
Furthermore, it would not be Biblical to suggest that the Islamic people are in any way associated with the anti-Christ, and it would be an ideal gem of propaganda for the Israelis to succeed in twisting the Bible around to mean that to American Christians.
I am starting to hear this foul smelling meme from other sources, and it must not be allowed to pass unnoticed. That way leads to madness. The real threat to Americans comes from excessive government power and corruption, for that is what has brought us lawlessness and chaos. The threats Israel faces are not the same ones we face, and mixing the two up was their first goal.
However, they are demanding that it be made our concern.
If Americans acting in a private capacity want to or feel obligated to help Israel, more power to them.
It's UNConstitutional for our Government to be handing out foreign aid or entering entangling alliances.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
#77. To: Rotara, buckeye, christine, Original_Intent, rowdee, Jethro Tull, mirage, Rupert_Pupkin, wudidiz, All (#59)
I'll take God's Word over you two clowns every day of the week.
I am a Christian, yes absolutely.
You that claim to be (maybe) and yet hate Israel and Jews will have much to answer for, as much or more than the monsters in America and Israel that do their master, the anti-Christ's, bidding.
Wow, buckeye, you hit a raw nerve - you got to catch this 'net spectacle - it's like something out of the Exorcist movie - head revolving on a stick, eyes blazing, mouth spitting out these words:
"You that claim to be (maybe) and yet hate Israel and Jews will have much to answer for, as much or more than the monsters in America and Israel that do their master, the anti-Christ's, bidding."
Hissssssssssss....
I'm all scared now, buck. Rotara is a definite shape-changer, I swear. I thought he only hated "The New World Order" and "The Globalists" but he actually hates anyone who dares criticize Precious Israhell!!!! Critics of Israel - such as ourselves yesiree, that's you and me, dear buck - we are "monsters" and we do the "bidding of the anti-Christ." Eeeeeeeek, powerful judgment from Mr. Perfect Christozionazi, also known as Rotara. I'm shocked and saddened beyond words.
Rotara first revealed to me earlier today - between his signature :'s and )'s - that he "did not like me very much" and then in a few short hours those expressed feelings escalated to calling me ( and you) a Monster and Agent of the anti-Christ. I was wondering why Rotara tails my posts around like a heat-seeking missile - now the truth is out - Rotara doesn't like the fact that I use credible sources to support my criticisms of Israel examples: Professors Mearsheimer and Walt, noted scholars, and verbatim press reports from Haaretz and YnetNews, which are Israeli newspapers, and also the insightful observations from Philip Weiss's news blog, who just happens to be a very articulate JEWISH journalist who is ashamed of Israel's thuggish actions and he's also aghast at the Zionazi chickenhawks and foreign policy influence peddlers posing as American gov't policy advisers and lobbyists who get the USA to waste US treasure and blood fighting Israel's battles. Just because I don't quote gobblygook drive-in theatre dial a pastor crap from Hal Lindsey crackerjack sources, Rotara has a hissy fit and reveals himself completely as the 1-dimensional shallow christozionutter he always has been.
And you are THE WORST NAZI on this site and among the worst I've ever encountered anywhere.
You are simply a disgusting individual, in spite of all the other things you DO get right.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Cynico: Re religion, never argue or discuss such with anyone.
buckeye: I know you're right, but this is one of the top three issues of our time. Americans have to recognize that America is their promised land, not somewhere else. It was promised to them by their forefathers and the men and women who founded this country. I think God would want them to appreciate that worldly gift above most others.
Bravo, well said. You're on a roll today, buck. You nicely separated the wheat from the chafe and clarified the real issues at hand as opposed to the superficial ones.