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Title: Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? (Freedom4um.com YouTube Vid)
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH2M ... bin/mailread.cgi?mn=71062&mf=I
Published: Jul 24, 2008
Author: Artisan
Post Date: 2008-07-24 21:57:10 by christine
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Views: 1594
Comments: 52

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means?

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Can't Find My Way Home. Great song.

One of my favs.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-07-24   22:17:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Cream was outstanding.

Close. It's actually Blind Faith. Both had Eric Clapton and Ginger Baker.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-07-24   22:21:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Than-you edit. Did they morph into Cream?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-07-24   22:23:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Gee rack, i replied to you at the time, i dont know if you saw it? If not, here it is. I told you i appreciated your help and sorry i hadnt gotten back to you write away. No hard feelings.

----------- freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...? ArtNum=82565&Disp=18#C18

#18. To: rack42 (#17) Hey rack sorry bout that, i just got back online, didn't mean to ignore you. I went to the links you gave an actually had downloaded VIRTUALDUBMOD. it froze up the computer, then i went and did some searching, and a microsoft employee who runs a forum on WMM said it did the same thing for his computer. Then i went and saw a step-by step deal on how to use VIRTUALDUBMOD and it listed, about 21 steps. Given the fact that whatever it is always freezes up people computers and i couldnt use it, i removed it and just sent the vid to a friend of mine who will convert the VOB and upload it. I appreciate your help but i just dont have the knowledge, interest or time investment thats necessary to learn all that. wasn't tryin' to be rude. we had a 911 event today so i was gone most all of friday and sat.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-07-24   22:24:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Superb !

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2008-07-24   22:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Than-you edit. Did they morph into Cream?

The other way around. Cream broke up because Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker hated each other. Eric Clapton started hanging out out and playing with Stevie Winwood and then Ginger Baker kind of showed up. Then Ric Grech showed up and history was made.

If you've never read it, Clapton's autobiography was pretty interesting.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-07-24   22:29:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"Blind Faith" was the first album done by Clapton and Baker following the break-up of Cream.

One of the greatest Rock Albums ever made. Depending upon who you read it is the best - the other that vies for the title is Sgt. Peppers.

Although "Dark Side of The Moon" certainly deserves to be in the hunt.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-07-24   22:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

christine  posted on  2008-07-24   22:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Darn it! You beat me by less than 30 seconds. :-)

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-07-24   22:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Darn it! You beat me by less than 30 seconds. :-)

LOL!

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-07-24   22:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"Blind Faith" was the first album done by Clapton and Baker following the break-up of Cream.

I had it bass ackwards. It has been a few years, but it is my kind of music. I like it just as much today as I did then.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-07-24   22:34:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Unfortunately I can't play it with my current rig, but let me guess: "Presence of The Lord"?

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-07-24   22:34:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"Blind Faith" was the first album done by Clapton and Baker following the break-up of Cream.

I had it bass ackwards. It has been a few years, but it is my kind of music. I like it just as much today as I did then.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-07-24   22:39:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"Blind Faith" was the first album done by Clapton and Baker following the break-up of Cream.

I had it bass ackwards. It has been a few years, but it is my kind of music. I like it just as much today as I did then.

One of the "Jewels" of my record collection (yes I still have records) is a Japanese pressing of the Album with the original (non-airbrushed) "R Rated" cover on extra heavy virgin vinyl. (I also have one with the original cover for "Electric Ladyland".)

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-07-24   22:39:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

no, it's Can't Find My Way Back Home with the vocals.

christine  posted on  2008-07-24   22:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

no, it's Can't Find My Way Back Home with the vocals.

Cool.

"I'm lost annnnd I can't find myyy waaayyy hommmmmmme"

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-07-24   22:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No, I never saw your reply in this forum nor via PM after 3 days of looking and posting PM's to you.

What ever.

We cannot afford peace at any price. - Newt Gingrich, May 29, 1998

rack42  posted on  2008-07-24   22:54:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Easy there folks. Looks like we're on the same side to me. Focus on what matters.

buckeye  posted on  2008-07-24   22:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Rock and Roll Trivia for $1000:

Each of the three members of the band "Cream" came from a different musical background.

I'll make this easy.

One played Jazz.

One played Blues.

One played Rock.

Put the correct band member with their previous gig.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-07-24   23:00:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the message which I had sent to you & linked to above was on 06-29 at 3:32:27 ET.

Like i said i appreciated your help, tried to download what you said and i explained what happened thereafter. but didnt have too much time to invest otherwise. i have since bought a firewire for 30 bucks cable which avoids the entire problem of VOBs, etc.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-07-24   23:00:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Amen...

Cynicom  posted on  2008-07-24   23:00:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Niiiiiice...real nice. A tip of the hat to all parties involved in putting this together.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-07-24   23:03:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

it's funny but the screen shot of 4um's 'latest comment' page which is included in the video has a few of your posts on it. basically it's a promo vid for the site.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-07-24   23:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

thanks

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-07-24   23:08:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Haven't heard that tune in years...really enjoyed it...a great fit considering the theme of your video.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-07-24   23:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The misunderstood know that it's great to have the way they feel expressed clearly. That's art. That's how I feel about your work here.

buckeye  posted on  2008-07-24   23:09:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I find your effort to be excellent and something that needs to be viewed by all.

It is a rare week that goes by that I am not invited to leave, stop posting or just shut up.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-07-24   23:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

thanks, glad you liked it.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-07-24   23:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It is a rare week that goes by that I am not invited to leave, stop posting or just shut up.

This is a free speech forum. Not good. Besides, you're one of our most thoughtful posters. Thanks for sticking it out, Cyni.

buckeye  posted on  2008-07-24   23:15:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Wonderful work....I think we can all appreciate how much work went into what you did!!! Thank You!!!!!!!!!!

Killing One Person Is Murder...Killing 100,000 is Foreign Policy!

lizza76  posted on  2008-07-24   23:17:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thank you..

I was thrown out of FReakville, Lucys, and told to leave ELPEE. So far 4rum has survived and I do appreciate a home.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-07-24   23:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

This is a free speech forum. Not good. Besides, you're one of our most thoughtful posters. Thanks for sticking it out, Cyni.

I second that motion.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-07-24   23:23:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

thanks for the nice comments, glad you liked it.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-07-24   23:24:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Each of the three members of the band "Cream" came from a different musical background.

I'll make this easy.

One played Jazz.

One played Blues.

One played Rock.

Put the correct band member with their previous gig.

I don't think it's all that cut and dry. Jack Bruce started off as a big band double bassist and then played in a few blues bands once he switched over to electric bass. So I guess he would be one with the jazz background. He met Clapton when both of them played for John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers. Bruce played with Manfred Mann prior to joining Cream.

Ginger Baker was a member of the Graham Bond Organization, but then so was Jack Bruce. The Graham Bond Organization was a huge English blues band. Baker is real big into jazz and fusion today, but I don't know his background prior to Graham Bond and I'm not sure if he was still with them or not prior to joining cream.

As for Clapton, his interest has been in the blues since before he began playing his first guitar. As for the Yardbirds, even though they had the Pop hit For Your Love, they were a blues band. Hell The Yardbirds is where Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page got their big breaks as well. Clapton played for John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers prior to Cream. It was his work with the Bluesbreakers that made him world famous.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-07-24   23:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Good answer - and not as clear cut, but what I had in mind was, despite any other gigs, Jack Bruce was the only one who had previously played in a Rock band, Baker was known as a Jazz drummer (there is an apocryphal story which I have not been able to verify where he one-upped Mr. Mouth Buddy Rich), and of course Clapton is known as a Blues player.

However the synergy of Cream, whatever disagreements they had, was something special.

We now return to our regularly scheduled Cigar.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-07-24   23:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Outstanding!

Pern  posted on  2008-07-24   23:45:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Very well done, artisan. Your handle is most appropriate.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2008-07-24   23:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am a big fan of that song and that album. Small world.

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wakeup  posted on  2008-07-25   0:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Favorited, rated and once again I am the first to comment.

Very nice.

The video, I mean.

wudidiz  posted on  2008-07-25   0:57:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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onedollardvdproject.com

I recently made the perfect DVD combo:
Ron Paul Intro., Freedom to Fascism, Keep and Bear Arms, Zeitgeist II & III.
All four are on one DVD and it is a great wakeup call.

wakeup  posted on  2008-07-25   1:27:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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