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Title: Flight 93: Cell Call Exposed 9/11:"You did great"
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjNB ... com/ceecee-lyles-t17044p2.html
Published: Jul 26, 2008
Author: CanadianVandal
Post Date: 2008-07-26 17:48:52 by honway
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#1. To: All, *9-11* (#0)

This is a must see video, especially the last 2 minutes.

If there is any doubt in anyone's mind about cell phones working at altitude in a plane,try it the next time you fly.

honway  posted on  2008-07-26   18:00:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: honway (#1)

Most planes have phones on board these days. What's the source for the audio here?

buckeye  posted on  2008-07-26   18:08:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeye, honway, anyone (#2)

Can SkyPhones be caller ID'ed?

CeeCee's husband would have recognized her cell number.

Lod  posted on  2008-07-26   18:15:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lodwick, honway, wudidiz (#5)

I would need a lot more information than this youtube and the scant reporting done on CeeCee Lyles, and her husband Lorne. I don't know the source of this audio, or whether or not Lorne has proof (like an electronic log of his cell phone captured IDs with dates). It could be a stewardess helping CeeCee make the call and saying "you did great." Or it could be someone next to her saying that about something one of the other passengers had just done.

There may be interesting data here, but it needs a lot more scrutiny than this. The mere fact that the video's producers are jumping to all sorts of wild conclusions without more information is also helpful in determining how we should treat this material.

On the video's information side bar, I see a link to Info Wars, where anything can become dramatic information with the slightest amount of imagination.

buckeye  posted on  2008-07-26   18:39:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeye (#15)

It could be a stewardess helping CeeCee make the call and saying "you did great." Or it could be someone next to her saying that about something one of the other passengers had just done.

Indeed...Too much has been read into something with no basis at all.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-07-26   18:44:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#18)

Too much has been read into something with no basis at all.

For busy, if rational people, this kind of hyperbole serves as all the evidence they need that everything was always done on the up and up, and they really should be trusting George W. Bush, the CIA, the FBI, Homeland Security, and (singing now) praise be to Total Information Awareness... If only the Patriot Acts had been there to break down those awful firewalls.

And meanwhile, Israel continues to be the main beneficiary, year in and year out, to the American response to 9/11.

buckeye  posted on  2008-07-26   18:49:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeye (#19)

I am not sure you completely appreciate the significance of this audio. The audio includes the time, 9:47 am. At 9:47,according to the flight data recorder information released by the government, United 93 was at 20,000 feet. There is not an honest expert on this planet that will dispute the claim that a personal cell phone will not work at 20,000 feet in an airliner.

honway  posted on  2008-07-26   19:04:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: honway (#24)

"The U.S. Federal Communications Commission prohibits the use of mobile telephones aboard any aircraft in flight. The reason given is that mobile phone systems depend on channel reuse, and operating a phone at altitude may violate the fundamental assumptions that allow channel reuse to work.[citation needed]

Mobile telephones are intentionally designed with low power output. A tower is the center of a "cell" and due to attenuation with distance (inverse square law) cell phone transmissions can usually be received only weakly by towers in adjacent cells, and not at all in cells farther away (non-adjacent cells). This allows the channel used by any given phone to be reused by other phones in non-adjacent cells. This principle allows tens or hundreds of thousands of people to use their phones at the same time in a given metropolitan area while using only a limited number of channels"

Cynicom  posted on  2008-07-26   19:08:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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