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Title: Flight 93: Cell Call Exposed 9/11:"You did great"
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjNB ... com/ceecee-lyles-t17044p2.html
Published: Jul 26, 2008
Author: CanadianVandal
Post Date: 2008-07-26 17:48:52 by honway
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#1. To: All, *9-11* (#0)

This is a must see video, especially the last 2 minutes.

If there is any doubt in anyone's mind about cell phones working at altitude in a plane,try it the next time you fly.

honway  posted on  2008-07-26   18:00:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: honway (#1)

Most planes have phones on board these days. What's the source for the audio here?

buckeye  posted on  2008-07-26   18:08:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeye, honway, anyone (#2)

Can SkyPhones be caller ID'ed?

CeeCee's husband would have recognized her cell number.

Lod  posted on  2008-07-26   18:15:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lodwick, honway, wudidiz (#5)

I would need a lot more information than this youtube and the scant reporting done on CeeCee Lyles, and her husband Lorne. I don't know the source of this audio, or whether or not Lorne has proof (like an electronic log of his cell phone captured IDs with dates). It could be a stewardess helping CeeCee make the call and saying "you did great." Or it could be someone next to her saying that about something one of the other passengers had just done.

There may be interesting data here, but it needs a lot more scrutiny than this. The mere fact that the video's producers are jumping to all sorts of wild conclusions without more information is also helpful in determining how we should treat this material.

On the video's information side bar, I see a link to Info Wars, where anything can become dramatic information with the slightest amount of imagination.

buckeye  posted on  2008-07-26   18:39:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: buckeye (#15)

I don't know the source of this audio, or whether or not Lorne has proof (like an electronic log of his cell phone captured IDs with dates).

Eyewitness testimony is accepted in court and used to convict people of murder.

Lorne is providing eyewitness testimony describing seeing his wife's cell phone number on his caller ID. Do you think he is making this up?

You have had an opportunity to see his firsthand account.

Do you think the man is lying about seeing his wife's cell phone number on his caller ID?

honway  posted on  2008-07-26   18:59:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: honway (#21)

I don't know anything about this material, and it's not sourced, referenced, or corroborated in the video. As for the husband, he's an unreliable witness due to the emotional nature of the event.

Yet, the video would lead us to the point that we can envision mass shootings on the ground. Don't you see a problem with this kind of material?

buckeye  posted on  2008-07-26   19:02:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeye (#22)

Yet, the video would lead us to the point that we can envision mass shootings on the ground. Don't you see a problem with this kind of material?

The maker of the video goes beyond provable facts.

That should not distract anyone from the fundamental facts.

This is in fact a recorded audio received by the husband of CeeCee Lyles, a flight attendant on United Flight 93.

A cell phone will not operate at 20,000 ft in an airliner.

Lorne Lyles states he saw his wife's cell phone number on his caller ID.

The maker of the video goes too far, but that does not change the fundamental facts.

honway  posted on  2008-07-26   19:12:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#32. To: honway (#30)

The maker of the video goes too far, but that does not change the fundamental facts.

What facts are those? You don't have any solid evidence here that the call wasn't made from the air. You don't have any evidence here that the caller was coerced to make the call. But you do have hysteria, and a lot of it.

buckeye  posted on  2008-07-26 19:14:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: honway, buckeye (#30)

This is in fact a recorded audio received by the husband of CeeCee Lyles, a flight attendant on United Flight 93.

I'm part of the LIHOP crowd and this audio tells me nothing. A flight attendant who is trained to be calm in the face of complete panic and chaos is able to place a call to her husband. Listen to that again and again without the help of the video and you can hear the panic in that woman's voice even though she is projecting calm. If I were in her shoes and had one last call to make to my spouse, mark it down and take it to the bank, my words would almost be identical to hers attempting to project calm in a sea of chaos.

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