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Title: Flight 93: Cell Call Exposed 9/11:"You did great"
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjNB ... com/ceecee-lyles-t17044p2.html
Published: Jul 26, 2008
Author: CanadianVandal
Post Date: 2008-07-26 17:48:52 by honway
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#1. To: All, *9-11* (#0)

This is a must see video, especially the last 2 minutes.

If there is any doubt in anyone's mind about cell phones working at altitude in a plane,try it the next time you fly.

honway  posted on  2008-07-26   18:00:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: honway (#1)

Most planes have phones on board these days. What's the source for the audio here?

buckeye  posted on  2008-07-26   18:08:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeye, honway, anyone (#2)

Can SkyPhones be caller ID'ed?

CeeCee's husband would have recognized her cell number.

Lod  posted on  2008-07-26   18:15:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lodwick, honway, wudidiz (#5)

I would need a lot more information than this youtube and the scant reporting done on CeeCee Lyles, and her husband Lorne. I don't know the source of this audio, or whether or not Lorne has proof (like an electronic log of his cell phone captured IDs with dates). It could be a stewardess helping CeeCee make the call and saying "you did great." Or it could be someone next to her saying that about something one of the other passengers had just done.

There may be interesting data here, but it needs a lot more scrutiny than this. The mere fact that the video's producers are jumping to all sorts of wild conclusions without more information is also helpful in determining how we should treat this material.

On the video's information side bar, I see a link to Info Wars, where anything can become dramatic information with the slightest amount of imagination.

buckeye  posted on  2008-07-26   18:39:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeye (#15)

It could be a stewardess helping CeeCee make the call and saying "you did great." Or it could be someone next to her saying that about something one of the other passengers had just done.

Indeed...Too much has been read into something with no basis at all.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-07-26   18:44:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#18)

Too much has been read into something with no basis at all.

For busy, if rational people, this kind of hyperbole serves as all the evidence they need that everything was always done on the up and up, and they really should be trusting George W. Bush, the CIA, the FBI, Homeland Security, and (singing now) praise be to Total Information Awareness... If only the Patriot Acts had been there to break down those awful firewalls.

And meanwhile, Israel continues to be the main beneficiary, year in and year out, to the American response to 9/11.

buckeye  posted on  2008-07-26   18:49:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeye (#19)

I am not sure you completely appreciate the significance of this audio. The audio includes the time, 9:47 am. At 9:47,according to the flight data recorder information released by the government, United 93 was at 20,000 feet. There is not an honest expert on this planet that will dispute the claim that a personal cell phone will not work at 20,000 feet in an airliner.

honway  posted on  2008-07-26   19:04:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: honway (#24)

How do we know this is not a GTE Airfone call misremembered by Lorne Lyle? Did Lorne manage to document his recollection that it was her caller ID coming up on his phone? Where did the full audio, containing the "you did great" remark, come from? Can we download it from another source? Does Lorne remember that? Does Lorne believe something is wrong with the phone call?

buckeye  posted on  2008-07-26   19:08:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeye (#28)

Can we download it from another source?

I did that search before I posted it. It is the real deal. Do the google.

honway  posted on  2008-07-26   19:13:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: honway (#31)

I did that search before I posted it. It is the real deal. Do the google.

As I've said, if it's legitimate audio, it doesn't mean that she was being coerced to say what she said.

buckeye  posted on  2008-07-26   19:15:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: buckeye (#33) (Edited)

As I've said, if it's legitimate audio, it doesn't mean that she was being coerced to say what she said.

"you did great" whispered lowly. Why whisper when the caller clearly wasn't whispering. There was no reason to whisper "you did great" unless for some reason that person did not want anyone to hear them say that but her. If legit this is another item in the huge pool of evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.

RickyJ  posted on  2008-07-26   20:13:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: RickyJ (#38)

If legit this is another item in the huge pool of evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.

What do you mean "legit?" How do you know you shouldn't be hearing "you did great" at the end of this recording? Be rational. Show a little care in jumping to your conclusions.

There are reasons why we should be concerned, but this video is only a solid demonstration of the irrationality that pollutes the otherwise legitimate 9/11 investigation movement.

This whole thread is a testimony to the damage Alex Jones has done to conspiracy research.

buckeye  posted on  2008-07-26   20:20:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeye (#40)

This whole thread is a testimony to the damage Alex Jones has done to conspiracy research.

And what did Alex Jones have to do with the production of this piece?

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-07-26   23:05:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Original_Intent (#44)

Flight 93: Cell Call Exposed
http://www.infowars.net/articles/july...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_A...

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thanks!

The user links back to his site. Jones has covered material on the cell phone issue before. (And: flight 77.)

buckeye  posted on  2008-07-26   23:38:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#46. To: buckeye (#45)

Alex Jones is not the only, nor the first, to explore the liklihood that the cell calls are fraudulent. A couple of experiments have been run - low budget affairs since the government is not going to shoot holes in their own cover story.

There are several factors that suggest the liklihood of the cell calls being made is unlikely:

1. The low power of a cell phone transmitter which has to push the signal through the metal skin of the aircraft - which will attenuate the signal.

2. The distance from any cell tower at 20,000 feet combined with signal attenuation.

3. The speed of the aircraft which would make it difficult, at best, to be able to complete the "handshake" protocols with a tower before being out of its range. No handshake = no connection = no call.

While I won't go so far as to say it is impossible the calls were made as billed it nevertheless strikes me as being about as likely as winning the Power Ball two weeks running.

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-07-27 00:43:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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