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Title: Flight 93: Cell Call Exposed 9/11:"You did great"
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjNB ... com/ceecee-lyles-t17044p2.html
Published: Jul 26, 2008
Author: CanadianVandal
Post Date: 2008-07-26 17:48:52 by honway
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#1. To: All, *9-11* (#0)
This is a must see video, especially the last 2 minutes. If there is any doubt in anyone's mind about cell phones working at altitude in a plane,try it the next time you fly.
Most planes have phones on board these days. What's the source for the audio here?
Can SkyPhones be caller ID'ed? CeeCee's husband would have recognized her cell number.
I would need a lot more information than this youtube and the scant reporting done on CeeCee Lyles, and her husband Lorne. I don't know the source of this audio, or whether or not Lorne has proof (like an electronic log of his cell phone captured IDs with dates). It could be a stewardess helping CeeCee make the call and saying "you did great." Or it could be someone next to her saying that about something one of the other passengers had just done. There may be interesting data here, but it needs a lot more scrutiny than this. The mere fact that the video's producers are jumping to all sorts of wild conclusions without more information is also helpful in determining how we should treat this material. On the video's information side bar, I see a link to Info Wars, where anything can become dramatic information with the slightest amount of imagination.
Indeed...Too much has been read into something with no basis at all.
For busy, if rational people, this kind of hyperbole serves as all the evidence they need that everything was always done on the up and up, and they really should be trusting George W. Bush, the CIA, the FBI, Homeland Security, and (singing now) praise be to Total Information Awareness... If only the Patriot Acts had been there to break down those awful firewalls. And meanwhile, Israel continues to be the main beneficiary, year in and year out, to the American response to 9/11.
I am not sure you completely appreciate the significance of this audio. The audio includes the time, 9:47 am. At 9:47,according to the flight data recorder information released by the government, United 93 was at 20,000 feet. There is not an honest expert on this planet that will dispute the claim that a personal cell phone will not work at 20,000 feet in an airliner.
How do we know this is not a GTE Airfone call misremembered by Lorne Lyle? Did Lorne manage to document his recollection that it was her caller ID coming up on his phone? Where did the full audio, containing the "you did great" remark, come from? Can we download it from another source? Does Lorne remember that? Does Lorne believe something is wrong with the phone call?
I did that search before I posted it. It is the real deal. Do the google.
As I've said, if it's legitimate audio, it doesn't mean that she was being coerced to say what she said.
"you did great" whispered lowly. Why whisper when the caller clearly wasn't whispering. There was no reason to whisper "you did great" unless for some reason that person did not want anyone to hear them say that but her. If legit this is another item in the huge pool of evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.
What do you mean "legit?" How do you know you shouldn't be hearing "you did great" at the end of this recording? Be rational. Show a little care in jumping to your conclusions. There are reasons why we should be concerned, but this video is only a solid demonstration of the irrationality that pollutes the otherwise legitimate 9/11 investigation movement. This whole thread is a testimony to the damage Alex Jones has done to conspiracy research.
Did you watch the video? Did you see her identification found at the crash site totally intact? Did you know not even the plane was left that intact nor any passengers? It is stretching credulity to believe that somehow her identification and paper items in her pocket survived when no person or piece of the plane that big did. No, this is not the smoking gun the 9/11 truth movement should tell people about first, WTC7 is, but if all information in this video is correct it defintely is another piece of evidence of an inside job.
This is where common sense really should take over. The Marriott Rewards card and the ID endures the crash, but the substantial landing gear does not. Is there an idiot on this planet that would believe that?
Number 48 submitted for your consideration.
I have witnessed large aircraft crashes, with fires and explosions. It was common to find all sorts of personal items scattered around, perfectly normal.
Yes, and also finding parts from the landing gear and/or wheels is normal. What is not normal is the landing gear vaporizing. The gear is designed to support 198,000 lbs contacting the runway at 700 feet per minute. It is very substantial and would not vaporize on impact.
It's also not normal to find the engines over a mile away. The claim is they bounced! LOL! Also parts of the plane were found over a very large area. That flight was shot down. The "crash scene" more than likely was just a separate explosion which produced a hole in the ground. There was no evidence of any plane there whatsoever. Flight 93 or some plane was shot down, but I doubt the passengers were on board. 9/11 was totally scripted, everything went as planned except for the early leak about WTC7 collapsing.
#75. To: RickyJ (#73)
That's true. I am often surprised at how the "that's normal" crowd deal with facts like that, claims of engine's bouncing great distances.
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#2. To: honway (#1)
#5. To: buckeye, honway, anyone (#2)
#15. To: lodwick, honway, wudidiz (#5)
#18. To: buckeye (#15)
It could be a stewardess helping CeeCee make the call and saying "you did great." Or it could be someone next to her saying that about something one of the other passengers had just done.
#19. To: Cynicom (#18)
Too much has been read into something with no basis at all.
#24. To: buckeye (#19)
#28. To: honway (#24)
#31. To: buckeye (#28)
Can we download it from another source?
#33. To: honway (#31)
I did that search before I posted it. It is the real deal. Do the google.
#38. To: buckeye (#33)
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As I've said, if it's legitimate audio, it doesn't mean that she was being coerced to say what she said.
#40. To: RickyJ (#38)
If legit this is another item in the huge pool of evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.
#42. To: buckeye (#40)
(Edited)
This whole thread is a testimony to the damage Alex Jones has done to conspiracy research.
#48. To: RickyJ (#42)
Did you watch the video? Did you see her identification found at the crash site totally intact?
#49. To: All, *9-11* (#48)
#51. To: honway, buckeye (#49)
#72. To: Cynicom (#51)
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It was common to find all sorts of personal items scattered around, perfectly normal.
#73. To: honway (#72)
What is not normal is the landing gear vaporizing.
Replies to Comment # 73. It's also not normal to find the engines over a mile away.
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