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Title: Why Obama Will Win
Source: American Renaissance
URL Source: http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2008/07/why_obama_will_1.php
Published: Jul 25, 2008
Author: Jared Taylor
Post Date: 2008-07-28 16:04:27 by Tauzero
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Why Obama Will Win

Jared Taylor, Special to American Renaissance, July 25, 2008

It is time to get used to the idea that the next president of the United States will be black. Why will a nation we are so often assured is “racist” elect a black president? And will it make a difference?

Ever since Hillary Clinton dropped out of the race, the polls have reported consistently that Barack Obama will beat John McCain. The media love to tell us that whites say they support the black candidate and then vote for the white, but there is no reason for whites to lie in this campaign. Mr. Obama will not get a majority of the white vote but he will get enough to beat Mr. McCain. Why will so many whites vote for Mr. Obama?

First, some support his policies. They want to end the war in Iraq, and they want the standard liberal program of socialized medicine, higher taxes, more handouts, and more government. There has always been a substantial minority of whites who vote this way, and they have a clear favorite in Mr. Obama.

Second, as many people have pointed out, an enormous number of whites think it is deeply virtuous to vote for a black—not for an out-and-out race man such as Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, but for an unthreatening, well-scrubbed black who speaks standard English and promises to “bring us together.” Even if they live sharply segregated lives, whites thrill to the language of “coming together,” and they adore blacks who don’t act or sound black.

For many whites, voting for Mr. Obama will be an act of high patriotism. Electing him will prove America is not “racist,” and many whites believe that rising above “racism” is America’s sacred calling. One must never underestimate the importance to whites of feeling virtuous. Most would rather lose a leg than be thought a “bigot,” and a vote for Obama is a painless way to burnish anti-racist credentials.

Third, young whites will line up for Mr. Obama. They have been swallowing anti-white, multi-culti propaganda all their lives and have not knocked around enough to discover it is false. Some who know their parents will vote for Mr. McCain will make a special point of voting for Mr. Obama. Every new generation thinks it is cooler, hipper, and wiser than any generation that ever lived, and what could be cooler, hipper, or wiser than putting a black man in the White House? For many young whites, a vote for Mr. Obama will be a denial of every uncool, unhip, and especially every even faintly race-realist thing their parents ever said or did.

Fourth, although the country seems to have a collective memory of no more than two weeks, Americans think everything is “historic.” Whenever someone breaks an obscure record in professional baseball we are told history was made. If you ask someone why he waited in line all night to buy the first Apple iPhone he will tell you it’s a “historic” product. Americans love anything that is “historic,” and for people who think a few more stolen bases are “history” right up there with the Battle of Lepanto, putting a black man in the White House will be the discovery of America, Pearl Harbor, and the Second Coming all rolled into one. Many whites will vote for Mr. Obama because they want to think they helped “make history.”

The media, which has its own grim reasons for supporting Mr. Obama, is mesmerized by the same prospect. Editors salivate at the thought of writing headlines like “History is Made” the day after the election, and some will lose all self-control and add an exclamation mark. The emphasis, of course, will be on Mr. Obama as the first black president, implying more to come. The media, which always subtly boost the Democrat, will be even more blatantly partisan this time, downplaying every blunder Mr. Obama makes and highlighting Mr. McCain’s.

Fifth, many whites will vote for Mr. Obama—or at least not vote for Mr. McCain—because the Republicans have nominated the most stunningly unattractive candidate in years. Old and pock-marked, Mr. McCain is thoroughly disliked in the Senate for arrogance that he cannot even hide from voters when he is not speaking from notes. He has dismayed Republicans by promoting amnesty for illegals, and dismayed everyone else by saying America should stay in Iraq for 100 years if it takes that long to “win.” Mr. Obama therefore has the enormous advantage of running against an opponent that not even Republicans like.

Mr. Obama will also crush Mr. McCain in face-to-face debates. Mr. McCain cannot put an unscripted sentence together any better than George W. Bush can, and will come across as a thick-witted geezer. Mr. Obama, who is as glib as any politician, gives credence to H.L. Mencken’s definition of democracy as “rule by orators.”

But what about America’s storied “racism”? Isn’t America brimming with people who can’t bear the thought of a black president? Americans have been numbed for decades by attractive television-blacks who read the news, forecast the weather, and tell us which brand of toothpaste to buy. Americans get a steady diet of heroic movie-blacks who outsmart and beat up white brutes, solve baffling technical problems, dispense sage advice, and save the world. Even the current Miss USA is black. There are millions of whites who do not want to live with blacks or have much to do with them, but would a black president be much different from nearly eight years of black secretaries of state? The march of blackness may be vaguely worrying to whites but they think there is nothing they can do about it and that they shouldn’t even if they could.

The final reason why whites will vote for Mr. Obama is that the Republicans do not have the backbone to attack him in the only way that would work. If they were serious, they would fill the airways with Jeremiah Wright prancing and raving, along with the message: “This is the man who married Mr. and Mrs. Obama, baptized their children, and whom Mr. Obama calls a ‘family member’.” They would buy radio ads quoting Michelle Obama’s thesis in which she says she will always be black first and American second. Mr. McCain has nothing like the stomach for a campaign like this.

Many blacks probably think he has the stomach for considerably worse: 57 percent think Mr. Obama is in greater physical danger than any white politician, and many say they would have warned him not to run, for fear he would be killed. An assassination would certainly be a shattering event. There is no telling how many cities would go up in flames, and Third-World countries, which have followed the Obama nomination with unprecedented interest, would help make it the most widely reported killing in history. (I have just returned from a Muslim country in which everyone has heard of Mr. Obama and likes him, but most have never heard of John McCain.) Whatever gruesome fantasies blacks may be spinning, however, assassination has gone out of style in America, and white resistance—such as it is—is dependably nonviolent. Mr. Obama will be perfectly safe.

In any case, Mr. Obama will win far more white votes than he will lose because he is black. Whites who don’t want a black president would not vote for a Democrat anyway. As for black voters, even nominal Republicans are said to be running for the doors, but strictly racial voting has always been fine for blacks. Not so for whites, of course. Just try telling your co-workers that you disagree with Mr. McCain but are voting for him because he is white.

Racially conscious whites will be in a quandary in November. Even if Mr. McCain’s policies are worse than Mr. Obama’s should they vote for the white man—one with an adopted Bangladeshi daughter and who long ago betrayed white interests? Even after years of being softened up with black heroes and figureheads, a black in the White House is a powerful symbol of white dispossession. A mulatto president is an almost explicit endorsement of miscegenation. This is bitter medicine.

Some whites have argued that a black president would undercut the charges of “racism” whites are forever facing, but they are dreaming. The entire government could look like a meeting of the Mystic Knights of the Sea, but as long as blacks are worse off than whites we will be blamed for it. Sensible whites cannot cheerfully vote for either man; I suspect most will stay home or vote for a minor candidate.

Aside from the symbolic impact, which cannot be calculated, will President Obama be much different from a President Hillary Clinton? She would lard her cabinet with blacks and Hispanics, nominate ultra-liberal judges, push for amnesty, grovel before non-whites everywhere, and load up the “civil rights” division of the Justice Department with anti-white sharks. She would certainly make a bigger fool of herself over Hispanics and Asians (see “Turning Up the Pressure,” AR, May 2008). Our choice, therefore, could not be more disagreeable. On balance, we get to decide which is the more degrading spectacle: deluded white people giving their country away or clear-eyed blacks helping themselves to it.

President Obama will, however, face special pressures. He can’t let the pushier brothers walk all over him, but he will have to throw them enough bones to keep them off his back. It will be a tricky balance. Mr. Obama’s first annual address to the NAACP will be a love feast, but every year after that it will be harder to explain why black unemployment, poverty, and incarceration rates haven’t changed at all.

Even Mr. Obama’s star-struck white supporters will eventually wonder what happened to all that “change” he promised. There is not going to be change. The system is far too stuck in its self-serving ways for that. With the help of an enlarged Democratic majority in Congress, Mr. Obama may set up some wheezing, byzantine form of socialized medicine, but no one will be happy with it. If Mr. Obama inherits a sick economy, a weak dollar, expensive oil, and shrinking revenues, Americans will not at all like the change they get.

On the bright side, with Mr. Obama we have a good chance of piquant First-Lady behavior. What will the White House be like with Michelle in charge? Will she want a new exterior paint job? How and whom will she entertain? Will the Big Man’s guest bedrooms—in the African tradition—be turned over to third cousins from Kenya and the South Side of Chicago? There is no telling with what improprieties large and small Mrs. Obama will entertain us as she makes up her mind whether she is an American.

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#1. To: Tauzero (#0) (Edited)

I understand that the 'common wisdom' (LOL) is that Obama would not be where he is now, were he White. Well... he made it to the senate because the stupid GOPs rushed Dr. Keyes from Maryland to fight Obama in Ilinois and give the electorate a nice 'choice' between 2 Negroes. Obama beat the bejesus out of Keys, fair and square.

During the Demo primaries, the Feminazis did all they could to get the Clinton bitch-witch elected. Most women went for Hillary but Obama beat the bitch, even though he was not a woman.

On the upcoming federal election, I don't believe that Obama's race is an advantage. Most American voters are not Negroes and most Whites are not Metrohomosexuals. If anything, he would get fewer votes than he would otherwise get, had he been a full White rather than a partial one. I do believe that Obama will win in a historic landslide for 2 reasons:

1 - McCain is THAT bad - stupid, senile, insane, ignorant.
2 - Obama is THAT good - learned, relatively sane, intelligent, relatively open-minded.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-07-28   16:19:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tauzero (#0)

Obama will be beaten bad.

Freeper: I read, but do not understand, write, but make no sense, think, but nothing happens.

Turtle  posted on  2008-07-28   16:21:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

2 - Obama is TAHT good - learned, relatively sane, intelligent, relatively open-minded.

Please see my previous post to you. It appears from here that you are mentally deficient and/or mentally dis-eased. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-28   16:27:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Rotara (#3)

It appears from here that you are mentally deficient and/or mentally dis-eased. ;-)

That's wrong. You start a discussion and, as soon as you get to express yourself the second round of back-and-forth, all you can do is some lame invective. This is monkey-like behavior, not a dignified interhuman exchange of ideas.

Anyways, did you hijack Arator's other nick? And, if so, then why?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-07-28   16:35:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#4)

It appears from here that you are mentally deficient and/or mentally dis-eased. ;-)

That's wrong.

No it's not. You're just too sick to see it. That's why you need Ohelp. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-28   16:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#4)

Anyways, did you hijack Arator's other nick? And, if so, then why?

I had no idea. I explained that here. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-28   16:41:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tauzero (#0)

They want to end the war in Iraq, and they want the standard liberal program of socialized medicine, higher taxes, more handouts, and more government. There has always been a substantial minority of whites who vote this way, and they have a clear favorite in Mr. Obama.

???

Obama has no intention of doing so. He'll end the Iraq war the same way Nixon was going to bring the troops home. The troop increases mean we are withdrawing, I guess.

His supporters have already found their inner war hawks. No shock. Such people relish the thought of using force to make others live as they see fit. They have the added trait of wanting their victims to love them for it as opposed to the bomb happy GOP types who don't care what others think.

This, in my mind, is the real threat of Obama being in office with a rubber stamb brigade of "D"s in congress. The guns vs butter debate will be solved by giving away large amounts of each. The warfare state gets its guns. The welfare state gets its butter. The American people get tag teamed by taxation and inflation at the same time.

As for him winning, of course he will. Americans love things that are never in their best interests. They'll vote for him in droves.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.

"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-07-28   17:31:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#7)

Obama has no intention of doing so. He'll end the Iraq war the same way Nixon was going to bring the troops home. The troop increases mean we are withdrawing, I guess.

His supporters have already found their inner war hawks. No shock. Such people relish the thought of using force to make others live as they see fit. They have the added trait of wanting their victims to love them for it as opposed to the bomb happy GOP types who don't care what others think.

This, in my mind, is the real threat of Obama being in office with a rubber stamb brigade of "D"s in congress. The guns vs butter debate will be solved by giving away large amounts of each. The warfare state gets its guns. The welfare state gets its butter. The American people get tag teamed by taxation and inflation at the same time.

As for him winning, of course he will. Americans love things that are never in their best interests. They'll vote for him in droves.

well said ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-28   17:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tauzero (#0)

Fifth, many whites will vote for Mr. Obama—or at least not vote for Mr. McCain—because the Republicans have nominated the most stunningly unattractive candidate in years. Old and pock-marked, Mr. McCain is thoroughly disliked in the Senate for arrogance that he cannot even hide from voters when he is not speaking from notes. He has dismayed Republicans by promoting amnesty for illegals, and dismayed everyone else by saying America should stay in Iraq for 100 years if it takes that long to “win.” Mr. Obama therefore has the enormous advantage of running against an opponent that not even Republicans like.

That may be the most decisive point. White guilters (pretty much limited to the upper middle class - not a major demographic) wouldn't even figure into the question if the GOP would run an even halfway tolerable candidate as an alternative to Obama. Instead, they run somebody so bad that not even the "lesser of two evils" sounds convincing to anyone.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-07-28   17:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

Obama is THAT good

You are a homo? I thought so.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-07-28   18:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Turtle (#2)

Obama will be beaten bad.

Are you doing the beating?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-07-28   18:08:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: RickyJ (#10) (Edited)

You are a homo? I thought so.

You're a shithead. Shit can't think, all shit does is stinks. Care to revise your remarks?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-07-28   18:08:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#12)

You're a shithead. Shit can't think, all shit does is stinks. Care to revise your remarks?

I thought you were into shit as well. Kind of goes with being a homo.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-07-28   18:58:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Rupert_Pupkin, All (#9)

White guilters (pretty much limited to the upper middle class - not a major demographic) wouldn't even figure into the question if the GOP would run an even halfway tolerable candidate as an alternative to Obama. Instead, they run somebody so bad that not even the "lesser of two evils" sounds convincing to anyone.

And because Obama still has not closed the deal by breaking 50% in poularity polls, the GOP party machinery are planning to give Obama even more help - that is, beyond running a senile warhawk RINO loser as their party's throw away Pres candidate.

Here's the latest news that should tell us "the fix" is in per the 2 fraud party under the table deals...what a laugh...

blog.washingtonpost.com/s...r_for_vice_president.html

"Cantor for Veep Movement Gaining Steam" 07/25/08

Conservatives wary of John McCain and worried about who he'll choose for a running mate are offering up ideas left and -- more to the point -- right. One of the ideas gaining momentum in conservative circles is Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.).

Cantor, the 45-year-old Republican chief deputy whip of the House, has three great attributes: youth, conservative bona fides and geographic desirability, as Virginia will likely be a crucial swing state in this year's presidential election.

All of which may explain why McCain had a private lunch last weekend with Cantor and his wife, Diana, in the Hamptons at the residence of Revlon mogul Ronald Perelman, a major GOP donor and hefty contributor to Jewish causes. (Perelman held a fundraiser that same evening for McCain.)

Asked about the lunch and whether McCain discussed the possibility of choosing Cantor as his running mate, Cantor spokesman Rob Collins told us what we hate hearing most: "No comment."...

While Cantor isn't among the most widely mentioned or well known of the contenders, he is getting a lot of fuel from various groups and polls. JTA, the Jewish news service, has been touting Cantor, who is the only Jewish Republican in the House, to be McCain's running mate. A recent National Journal poll of anonymous congressional Republicans put Cantor as the second most favored GOP vice presidential pick, behind Mitt Romney. There's even a Web site promoting Cantor for vice president.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-07-28   19:38:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Tauzero (#0)

Most would rather lose a leg than be thought a “bigot"

Not me. I am not a bigot but d@mned if I would give up a limb so that people who don't know me would think well of me. I think it would take an extraordinarily weak mind to worry all that much about people you don't know thinking you are a bigot. If you are not then the people who matter, your family and friends, already know that.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-07-28   19:51:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Tauzero (#0)

Fifth, many whites will vote for Mr. Obama—or at least not vote for Mr. McCain—because the Republicans have nominated the most stunningly unattractive candidate in years. Old and pock-marked, Mr. McCain is thoroughly disliked in the Senate for arrogance that he cannot even hide from voters when he is not speaking from notes.

that is funny!

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christine  posted on  2008-07-28   20:01:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Tauzero (#0)

Editors salivate at the thought of writing headlines like “History is Made” the day after the election, and some will lose all self-control and add an exclamation mark.

Maybe the editors should run out before the election and buy themselves a case of Depends.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-07-28   20:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tauzero (#0)

Third, young whites will line up for Mr. Obama. They have been swallowing anti-white, multi-culti propaganda all their lives and have not knocked around enough to discover it is false. Some who know their parents will vote for Mr. McCain will make a special point of voting for Mr. Obama

Mostly correct, but this isn't limited to the young. Some older goofs are willing to offer their sons to the Obama god and his war in Afghanistan. Sure...

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-07-28   20:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: James Deffenbach (#15)

"big·ot (bgt) n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

I am a half way admitted bigot and all the way admitted racist by my own definition.

As for bigot, thats me except I do respect those that differ. Of course, that beggars the question, do they respect mine.

As for racism, boy am I guilty, I prefer my own race and have a sneaking suspicion that is why we have different races????? All of those that marry within and have children with their own race are therefore racists.

Now I am feeling bad.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-07-28   20:10:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Tauzero (#0)

Mr. Obama will also crush Mr. McCain in face-to-face debates. Mr. McCain cannot put an unscripted sentence together any better than George W. Bush can, and will come across as a thick-witted geezer. Mr. Obama, who is as glib as any politician, gives credence to H.L. Mencken’s definition of democracy as “rule by orators.”

I wonder if the people who are always talking about what a "great orator" Obama is have ever read any transcripts of remarks he has made without a prepared speech and/or a teleprompter. I read one the other day and it was incredible with all the "uh's" and "um's" and "ah's." Makes Bush look and sound ALMOST lucid.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-07-28   20:11:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Tauzero (#0)

excellent piece. very well reasoned and entertainingly worded.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-07-28   20:11:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#19)

As for racism, boy am I guilty, I prefer my own race and have a sneaking suspicion that is why we have different races????? All of those that marry within and have children with their own race are therefore racists

This thought will be illegal in our post-Obama AmeriKa. And just for measure, fellow citizens will be empowered to report you to the government for 'educational' purposes. You need to change, OK?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-07-28   20:15:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jethro Tull (#18)

Mostly correct, but this isn't limited to the young. Some older goofs are willing to offer their sons to the Obama god and his war in Afghanistan. Sure...

People don't see the North American Soviet Reich Union that is on the door step. Shame.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-28   20:21:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom, JethroTull (#19)

As for racism, boy am I guilty, I prefer my own race and have a sneaking suspicion that is why we have different races????? All of those that marry within and have children with their own race are therefore racists.

Now I am feeling bad.
*******
This thought will be illegal in our post-Obama AmeriKa. And just for measure, fellow citizens will be empowered to report you to the government for 'educational' purposes. You need to change, OK?

LOL! You guys aren't going to fit in so well with the North American Soviet Union gang. This selection is a world socialists' wet dream. Unfortunately. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-28   20:22:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Tauzero (#0)

Sensible whites cannot cheerfully vote for either man

If the qualifier is "sensible" then I submit that it doesn't matter what color they are--sensible people wouldn't vote for either one of the establishment whores, cheerfully or at all.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-07-28   20:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: James Deffenbach (#25) (Edited)

If the qualifier is "sensible" then I submit that it doesn't matter what color they are--sensible people wouldn't vote for either one of the establishment whores, cheerfully or at all.

If Ron Paul looked like Kevin Garnett (just saying KG cuz he's really black and I like the guy) I'd support him the same. That would be pretty cool wouldn't it!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-28   20:25:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#19)

Now I am feeling bad.

Cheer up, your friends still like you.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-07-28   20:32:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Rotara (#26)

If Ron Paul looked like Kevin Garnett (just saying KG cuz he's really black and I like the guy) I'd support him the same. That would be pretty cool wouldn't it!

There are blacks I would vote for too. Obummer just isn't one of them.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-07-28   20:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: James Deffenbach (#27)

Cheer up, your friends still like you.

Both of 'em????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-07-28   20:39:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: James Deffenbach (#28)

There are blacks I would vote for too. Obummer just isn't one of them.

Globalist puppets / Americans last need not apply? ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-28   20:39:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#29)

Both of 'em????

Of course. And you might even have more than that.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-07-28   20:42:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Rotara (#30)

Globalist puppets / Americans last need not apply? ;-)

Correct. I have no vote for such people.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-07-28   20:43:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: James Deffenbach (#20)

another thing i have noticed, obama pronounces to like tah, the same as bush. that gets on my nerves. at least obama can pronounce nuclear though.

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christine  posted on  2008-07-28   20:45:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: James Deffenbach (#32)

Globalist puppets / Americans last need not apply? ;-)

Correct. I have no vote for such people.

I doubt FDR would have gotten your vote either! ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-28   20:45:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: James Deffenbach (#28)

There are blacks I would vote for too. Obummer just isn't one of them.

Yeah, there are blacks I would vote for too. Bill Cosby wouldn't be too bad, and Alan Keyes would be OK too.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-07-28   20:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine (#33)

another thing i have noticed, obama pronounces to like tah, the same as bush. that gets on my nerves. at least obama can pronounce nuclear though.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-28   20:50:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Rotara (#34)

I doubt FDR would have gotten your vote either! ;-)

You are correct. FDR would have done America a HUGE favor if he had toddled off into a river or lake and drowned himself about the time he was big enough to toddle.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-07-28   20:53:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Rotara (#36)

freekin' cultists!

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christine  posted on  2008-07-28   20:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: christine (#38)

freekin' cultists!

FOFROFLMAO

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-28   20:57:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: James Deffenbach (#37)

I doubt FDR would have gotten your vote either! ;-)

You are correct. FDR would have done America a HUGE favor if he had toddled off into a river or lake and drowned himself about the time he was big enough to toddle.

Now that's no fair I truly resemble that remark! STILL LOL

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-28   20:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Tauzero (#0)

Another first for Obama, "The first bi-sexual major presidential candidate in the general election."

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-07-28   21:05:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: christine (#21)

excellent piece. very well reasoned and entertainingly worded.

I'm going to lose all self-control and say

Jared Rocks!!!

Well, it's true.

Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-07-29   10:09:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: christine (#33)

at least obama can pronounce nuclear though.

Well, if Bush can get him to visit he can probably set him straight on that nuke-u-ler.

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Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-07-29   11:32:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: RickyJ (#35)

Alan Keyes would be OK too.

Not for me. Not after what he said about Michael New. I lost any respect I ever had for him then.

Alan Keyes is an internationalist who is a supporter of the continued involvement of the United States in the United Nations. He has even gone so far as to state that Michael New should have gone to prison for the stand he took in refusing to wear a UN uniform/ disobey his oath of office.

Alan Keyes is an interventionist & a globalist who is a big supporter of continuing & expanding the war on terror — including neo-conservative foreign policy & encroachments on our liberties at home. He has even expressed support for a militaty draft. (which we all know will include our daughters this time.)

No Thanks, Alan Keyes

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-07-29   11:50:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Tauzero (#0)

Being a "Black" woman, reading this shows me we still have a long way to go in regards to race relations and acceptance in this country. By the way, "How do you sound Black?"

texaslvr77  posted on  2008-07-29   14:15:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: texaslvr77 (#45)

Being a "Black" woman, reading this shows me we still have a long way to go in regards to race relations and acceptance in this country. By the way, "How do you sound Black?"

As a white man with a great tan, "whatchoo talkin' 'bout Willis"? Please explain. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-29   14:18:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: James Deffenbach (#44)

Alan Keyes would be OK too.

Not for me. Not after what he said about Michael New. I lost any respect I ever had for him then.

AK = neocon grifter stalking horse perpetual candidate.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-29   14:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: texaslvr77 (#45)

What does "acceptance" mean to you?

Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-07-29   14:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: texaslvr77 (#45)

By the way, "How do you sound Black?"

Some blacks have a very distinct speech pattern as do some whites. I'm assuming you agree.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-07-29   14:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: texaslvr77 (#45)

By the way, "How do you sound Black?"

When no one can understand you. Never in my life have I seen people too lazy to enunciate words.

I watched a gas station clerk spend 5 minutes trying to find out what a black customer was saying. He finally figured out that that the customer wanted him to 'help a brother out' by giving him free ciggs. Oddly enough the answer was a very hate filled no.

The real humor of it? The gas station clerk was an immigrant from Ethiopia who spoke almost flawless english.

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Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-07-29   14:43:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: James Deffenbach, RickyJ (#44)

Alan Keyes is an internationalist who is a supporter of the continued involvement of the United States in the United Nations.

Alan Keyes is a black conservative Jesse Jackson. My time at LP made that very clear. Probably the only good LP ever did. They brought out info on how Simcox was just using the border fence to bilk people out of money. There was never any accounting for where that money went. What does that have to do with Keyes? He, through Declaration Alliance, were the ones controling all the donations. Think about it.


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farmfriend  posted on  2008-07-29   15:30:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: farmfriend, RickyJ (#51)

Alan Keyes is a black conservative Jesse Jackson.

Alan Keyes has something else in common with Jesse Jackson, apart from being a con and full-time presidential candidate. Keyes supports slavery reparations. One of Krazy Keyes' ideas was to exempt all blacks from paying taxes because their ancestors were slaves. Which makes him ten times the race and poverty pimp as Obama or most liberal black politicians.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-07-29   15:33:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Rotara (#47)

AK = neocon grifter stalking horse perpetual candidate.

A very good description of him.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-07-29   17:13:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: farmfriend (#51)

Keyes is a fairly well-educated con man. I think that is about the best you can say for him and be honest.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-07-29   17:14:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: James Deffenbach (#53)

A very good description of him.

He would have been a great anti-abortion, non-politicko proponent imo. He blew it for riches. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-29   17:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#50)

I know people of all nationalities who don't take time to enunciate their words...Do me a favor and take a ride through my home state of Texas and you will hear the worst attempt at the English language ever known to man, spoken by Caucasians!!!

texaslvr77  posted on  2008-07-30   11:18:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: texaslvr77 (#56)

True, but the PTB don't try and legitimize it as they did with the silly ebonics argument.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-07-30   11:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Jethro Tull (#49)

Key word "SOME", I work in an administrative capacity and have to encounter many races, the one thing that separates peoples speech is their personal economic status not race!

texaslvr77  posted on  2008-07-30   11:21:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Tauzero (#48)

Good question...it is the ability to appreciate or acknowledge likenesses or differences. Why?

texaslvr77  posted on  2008-07-30   11:30:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Rotara (#46)

My tan don't rub off honey...LOL! White Americans have not addressed the fact that this country was cultivated and is one of the richest because of the free slave labor from, Blacks, Native Americans, and all other non-Anglo immigrants. It continues to be run by racist families whom have run it since it was founded by Great Brittan. Exposing the past is the only "CURE"

texaslvr77  posted on  2008-07-30   11:40:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Jethro Tull (#57)

I do agree!

texaslvr77  posted on  2008-07-30   11:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: texaslvr77 (#58)

the one thing that separates peoples speech is their personal economic status not race!

class and education too?

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christine  posted on  2008-07-30   11:49:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: texaslvr77 (#59)

Good question...it is the ability to appreciate or acknowledge likenesses or differences. Why?

I'm just trying to determine what you meant by your comment.

I would agree blacks have a long way to go in tolerance, and whites have a long way to go in appreciating and acknowledging differences.

For example, most whites maintain, despite much evidence to the contrary, that blacks are no less intelligent and no more impulsive than whites.

Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-07-30   11:52:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: texaslvr77 (#60)

White Americans have not addressed the fact that this country was cultivated and is one of the richest because of the free slave labor from, Blacks, Native Americans, and all other non-Anglo immigrants.

Actually it is rich despite those things. Slave labor is inefficient. The North won its war against the South despite having worse soldiers, worse generals, and worse morale because of its industrial capacity.

The country would be much better off had blacks never been brought here.

Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-07-30   11:57:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#50)

The real humor of it? The gas station clerk was an immigrant from Ethiopia who spoke almost flawless english.

You have to give credit to the Brits for their excellent system of education. In fact when I need technical help re: my cable or internet, I always pray that I get someone from India to help me instead of someone from the South.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-07-30   12:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: texaslvr77 (#58)

the one thing that separates peoples speech is their personal economic status not race!

And a most wonderful example of your theory is our own Harvard/Yale educated eloquent presideunce

scrapper2  posted on  2008-07-30   12:19:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#50)

The real humor of it? The gas station clerk was an immigrant from Ethiopia who spoke almost flawless english.

great story :)

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christine  posted on  2008-07-30   12:24:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: texaslvr77 (#60)

My tan don't rub off honey...LOL! White Americans have not addressed the fact that this country was cultivated and is one of the richest because of the free slave labor from, Blacks, Native Americans, and all other non-Anglo immigrants. It continues to be run by racist families whom have run it since it was founded by Great Brittan. Exposing the past is the only "CURE"

The past has been exposed. Blacks held slaves too. I have grievances against certain plutocrat families myself. Where would you like me to send your check? I will include for you a one way ticket back to the continent of Africa as well, deal? ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-30   12:25:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: texaslvr77 (#60)

My tan don't rub off honey...LOL!

Neither does mine sweet meat! LOL

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-30   12:27:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#50)

Oddly enough the answer was a very hate filled no.

What is a hate filled no sound like? I think the guy might have just been angry, which doesn't imply hate.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-07-30   15:59:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#50)

The gas station clerk was an immigrant from Ethiopia who spoke almost flawless english.

No doubt the cream of the crop from Ethiopia. Most legal immigrants are the cream of the crop from their nations. It leads some Americans to believe that foreigners are just smarter than them.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-07-30   16:03:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Tauzero (#63)

Thanks for the acknowledgment...it is a step toward opening discussion on race relations in our country.

texaslvr77  posted on  2008-08-04   16:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Tauzero (#64)

No... The natives of this land would have been better off if no Europeans came and so called "civilized" them. I also spoke of all non-Anglo people as well...you failed to acknowledge that in our response. "Say it loud....I am Black and I am Proud!"

texaslvr77  posted on  2008-08-04   16:48:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Rotara (#68)

Ditto babe...I will send in exchange 1 ticket straight to "HELL" because am much havoc as your ancestors reeked and have not atoned for you will surly meet them there. LMAO! Free blacks and Indians owned slaves, I know this and so does anyone who reads, the point is there is a deep seated hatred for people based on race and it needs to be addressed, for wounds to heal properly.

texaslvr77  posted on  2008-08-04   16:58:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: texaslvr77 (#74)

Ditto babe...I will send in exchange 1 ticket straight to "HELL" because am much havoc as your ancestors reeked and have not atoned for you will surly meet them there. LMAO! Free blacks and Indians owned slaves, I know this and so does anyone who reads, the point is there is a deep seated hatred for people based on race and it needs to be addressed, for wounds to heal properly.

I'd like to give you some atonement. Come a little closer, I've got your atonement right here sugar pie-honey bun. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-04   17:21:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: texaslvr77 (#73)

No... The natives of this land would have been better off if no Europeans came and so called "civilized" them. I also spoke of all non-Anglo people as well...you failed to acknowledge that in our response. "Say it loud....I am Black and I am Proud!"

I'm American and I'm proud. You're just another black with an axe to grind. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-04   17:21:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: texaslvr77, Rotara (#74)

well, this is fun, you two. ;)

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christine  posted on  2008-08-04   17:23:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: christine, texaslvr77 (#77)

well, this is fun, you two. ;)

I hope it doesn't take Ms. Black (w/axe to grind) another week to respond. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-04   17:26:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: texaslvr77 (#74) (Edited)

there is a deep seated hatred for people based on race and it needs to be addressed, for wounds to heal properly

I don't hate anyone. I do loathe Traitorous activity and Socialism, though. I have utter contempt for slothfulness and I despise the behaviors of people of any color when they make excuses for why they can't put down the crack pipe or the joint or the 40 ouncer long enough to be individually responsible for themselves and their off spring.

There's more, but 'pearls before swine' comes to mind. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-04   17:30:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Tauzero, Jethro Tull, christine (#0)

If they were serious, they would fill the airways with Jeremiah Wright prancing and raving, along with the message: “This is the man who married Mr. and Mrs. Obama, baptized their children, and whom Mr. Obama calls a ‘family member’.” They would buy radio ads quoting Michelle Obama’s thesis in which she says she will always be black first and American second. Mr. McCain has nothing like the stomach for a campaign like this.

If McCain did this then his "non Christian" backers would immediately demand investigations into shady campaign donations and his alleged treason while an honored guest of the People's Democratic Republic of Vietnam, and all future photos would be distorted grimaces that make him look old, crazy, cancer scarred and pasty faced.

Lieberman would not allow that and he's almost certainly running the campaign for the betterment of Israel.

This article presumes that the GOP is run by European Caucasian Protestant (make believe) heterosexuals who are free to say and think what they please. Why would any ostensibly savvy political commentator presume that?

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HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-08-04   18:07:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: HOUNDDAWG (#80)

Many of his readers so presume.

The answer is still "no".

Tauzero  posted on  2008-08-04   18:13:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: texaslvr77 (#74)

Ditto babe...I will send in exchange 1 ticket straight to "HELL" because am much havoc as your ancestors reeked and have not atoned for you will surly meet them there.

But, but, but, when your ancestors were being sold off by African chiefs, my ancestors were scratching the earth looking for a potato to complement their six-pack. Therefore, I feel no guilt :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-04   18:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: HOUNDDAWG (#80)

This article presumes that the GOP is run by European Caucasian Protestant (make believe) heterosexuals who are free to say and think what they please.

Haaaaaaahahaha!

As opposed to luciferian new world order sock puppet metrosexuals that do David Rockefeller's bidding for his Rothchild-led Globalist traitors? ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-04   18:14:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Jethro Tull (#82)

Ditto babe...I will send in exchange 1 ticket straight to "HELL" because am much havoc as your ancestors reeked and have not atoned for you will surly meet them there.

But, but, but, when your ancestors were being sold off by African chiefs, my ancestors were scratching the earth looking for a potato to complement their six-pack. Therefore, I feel no guilt :P

It's days like today when I wish someone somewhere in my blood line actually HAD owned some folks! LOL ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-04   18:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Rotara (#83)

As opposed to luciferian new world order sock puppet metrosexuals that do David Rockefeller's bidding for his Rothchild-led Globalist traitors? ;-)

Gee, I wish I'd said that!

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HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-08-04   18:38:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: HOUNDDAWG (#85)

Gee, I wish I'd said that!

LOL. You have no idea how many times I've said the same thing when reading your posts. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-04   18:48:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Rotara (#84)

It's days like today when I wish someone somewhere in my blood line actually HAD owned some folks! LOL ;-)

Although I'm neither proud nor ashamed of this fact, my mother used to sit on her grandpa's lap when she was very young and he was quite old, and he was a well to do slave owner in Southhampton County, VA.

Only once did I find it necessary to mention it in mixed company when a white co-worker and I found ourselves with a darkie assigned to our crew. Well, he immediately started kissing our asses and saying things like "I know the diff between blacks and lazy, good for nuthin' nigs and I don't like em, either!"

Well, I wasn't buying that shit from him and I never allowed him to bait me into the usual redneck chatter on the subject. he realized it right away and within three days he had turned native and was demanding better than equal treatment. But, fortunately we hadn't given him any cause to claim "sckriminayshun" and I told him that I would see to it that he worked and that I had the background and experience to guarantee it.

Since I had no fear of termination I said, "My great grandfather was a wealthy slave owner in Southhampton County, VA. Yeah, ol' great granddad sure knew how to get an honest day's work out of a darkie!'

Well, the other white guy fell off his seat, screaming, "BWAAAAHHHH!!!" and the darkie went through the roof! He was so pissed that he was all shiny, like an 8 ball!!

It was beautiful!

One of my fondest memories...

I knew that man was trouble when he tried to embrace us with the usual racist noise that too many working class whites use as rationale to (claim to) like and respect some and dislike others.

I mean, if I asked one of my white co-workers whether he'd let a black man who would work (who he supposedly respected, unlike an ordinary, garden variety ewe gno what) marry his daughter I found that there wasn't really a whole lot of difference in his estimation of the two types of neegrows.

So, why be hypocritical?

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HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-08-04   19:16:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: HOUNDDAWG (#87)

If every black, indian, whitey, hispanic, etc in this country doesn't start acting like Americans and soon, it's going to get fuglyfast. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-04   20:38:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Rotara (#88)

If every black, indian, whitey, hispanic, etc in this country doesn't start acting like Americans and soon, it's going to get fuglyfast. ;-)

Except for that patriotic commercial on TV where various ethnics said "I am an American" I never hear blacks say that with pride.

Too many American blacks have cultivated a victim culture and they think of themselves as outsiders. And, even career officers like Colin Powell don't get caught expressing fondness their country because they'll be attacked by other blacks as house negroes or Uncle Toms.

It's probably too late, and blacks will be happier when the nation is divided into turfs controlled by various warlords, like Somalia.

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HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-08-04   21:03:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: HOUNDDAWG (#89)

I agree. I wish I'd said that! ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-04   21:12:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: texaslvr77 (#73)

The natives of this land would have been better off if no Europeans came and so called "civilized" them.

This is true.

And Indians, too, are smarter and less impulsive than blacks.

The point stands. America would be better off if blacks had never been brought here.

The answer is still "no".

Tauzero  posted on  2008-08-05   2:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Jethro Tull (#82)

but, when your ancestors were being sold off by African chiefs, my ancestors were scratching the earth looking for a potato to complement their six-pack. Therefore, I feel no guilt :P

Your ancestors didn't miss much: the investment in human farm equipment was lost when they were set free, whether that occured before the Civil War or at the conclusion of Honest Abe's sucker-punch to the Constitution.

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X-15  posted on  2008-08-05   3:23:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Rotara (#75)

LMAO!

texaslvr77  posted on  2008-08-06   10:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Rotara (#76)

To quote my sista' Mrs Obama..."I will ALWAYS be Black 1st then American!" !SMILE!

texaslvr77  posted on  2008-08-06   10:33:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Rotara (#78)

Career, Family, Life...Duh! Get you some!

texaslvr77  posted on  2008-08-06   10:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Rotara (#79)

One of my favorite books is "The Communist Manifesto" LMAO!

texaslvr77  posted on  2008-08-06   10:36:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Rotara (#79)

Did you forget about Crystal Meth...White Bread America is being ripped apart at the seams by that crap that Blacks would not touch with a 20ft pole! LMAO!

texaslvr77  posted on  2008-08-06   10:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Jethro Tull (#82)

The intent is not to invoke guilt but thought, honesty, and dialog!!! !SMILE!

texaslvr77  posted on  2008-08-06   10:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Tauzero (#91)

The word Passionate would suite better! But thanks for your insight! LMAO!

texaslvr77  posted on  2008-08-06   10:44:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: texaslvr77 (#98)

Good then.

As a former Brooklyn kid, I'll be happy to swap stories of diversity with you, as some of my best friends are......oh never mind :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-06   10:45:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Jethro Tull (#100)

Anytime...

texaslvr77  posted on  2008-08-06   11:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: texaslvr77 (#99)

America would be better off if blacks had never been brought here.

I'd sure hate to be the lawyer assigned to take the opposing view.

Obama is the wafer-thin mint.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-08-06   11:18:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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