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Title: Rice Adviser: Iraq Invasion Was 'F*cking Stupid'
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URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/ ... ser-iraq-invasio_n_115398.html
Published: Jul 28, 2008
Author: Jason Linkins
Post Date: 2008-07-28 23:19:07 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 179
Comments: 11

Over at the Washington Independent, Spencer Ackerman continues his enlightening "Rise of the Counterinsurgents" series with "A Counterinsurgency Guide for Politicos." The Indy has obtained a copy of a forthcoming manual on counterinsurgency strategy written by David Kilcullen, a "former Australian Army officer who is now an adviser to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice."

The handbook seeks to provide a framework for considering whether Washington should intervene in foreign countries' counterinsurgency operations, raising difficult questions about whether such nations deserve U.S. support; under what conditions that support should occur, and whether success is possible at acceptable cost. No systematic approach to strategic-level questions in counterinsurgency currently exists for senior U.S. government officials.

And how difficult are the questions being raised? Well, in what's sure to be the pull-quote of the piece for those media outlets who still consider anything other than Surge Logic (TM) important, Kilcullen provides a little color:

More bluntly, Kilcullen, who helped Petraeus design his 2007 counterinsurgency strategy in Iraq, called the decision to invade Iraq "stupid" -- in fact, he said "fucking stupid" -- and suggested that if policy-makers apply the manual's lessons, similar wars can be avoided in the future.

"The biggest stupid idea," Kilcullen said, "was to invade Iraq in the first place."

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#1. To: christine (#0)

The Council on Foreign Relations executive staff, select American Friends of Bilderberg, Bilderberg Society members and David Rockefeller would like to have a private word with you. The UN is ringing now. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-28   23:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

"The biggest stupid idea," Kilcullen said, "was to invade Iraq in the first place."

A confirmation of Radical Islam's worst fears and their best recruiting tool.

I am astounded by our political leaders failure to apprehend the most basic lessons of the political military disasters of the last century.

WE, THE ROYAL WE, HAVE LEARNED NOTHING FROM KNOWABLE DOCUMENTED RECENT HISTORY.

FROM THE MILLIONS OF LIVES SQUANDERED AND THE UNCOUNTABLE TREASURES LOST, OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM HAS APPEARENTLY LEARNED NOTHING.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-07-29   0:54:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tom007 (#2)

The globalist elite know exactly what they are doing. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-29   0:57:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Rotara (#3)

The globalist elite know exactly what they are doing. ;-)

It is a game of chess.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-07-29   1:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#0) (Edited)

"The biggest stupid idea," Kilcullen said, "was to invade Iraq in the first place."

And this insight from a foreigner, which even the thickest twit in America realizes, got him the job of assistant to the Sect'y of State?

Our country is truly doomed. Dummies hiring dummies from abroad to help with their dumb policies.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-07-29   3:35:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: scrapper2 (#5)

even the thickest twit in America realizes

You'd be surprised.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-07-29   14:11:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: scrapper2 (#5)

The thickest twit in America doesn't even realize we have a Secretary of State...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-07-29   14:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: who knows what evil (#7)

The thickest twit in America doesn't even realize we have a Secretary of State...

Jay Leno used to do a sidewalk segment back when I watched occasionally. Pretty embarrassing. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-29   14:31:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#0)

Inasmuch as the Bushes are close to the Sunni Saudi Arabians, it was stupid even from the Bush point of view for Jr. to knock off Sunni Saddam Hussein and put the pro-Iranian Shiites in power in Iraq.

Once again, stupid is as stupid does.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-07-29   14:51:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: MUDDOG (#9) (Edited)

edit: I didn't even think to mention the emphasis on Afghanistan/Pakistan/Iran and PIPELINES right now. The Bilderberg Society made their move in Chantilly a few weeks ago!

Middle East / Persian Gulf Union

Iran - Shia

Saudi Arabia - Sunni

Israel - Jew

Iran and Syria will be bribed to disassociate from hizbollah and Nasrali will have to make a choice. Lebanon is ready for MEFTA as is Jordan, most if not the whole of the Persian Gulf sans Iran (and I believe this too is just a game, they've been on board negotiating with S.A. for awhile now). Even the Kurds will get recognized if they'll do the new world order's/Middle East Union's bidding! Weak nations in strong super states under a central world government. they know exactly what they're doing! Russia and China and AmeriKa and the EU are ALL in on this and always HAVE BEEN Israel was the pivot!!! Even the Kurds will get recognition; what do we think the murder of Serbians was really all about (along with the drugs, oil, people trafficking, etc.).

But, I digress. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-29   15:15:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#0)

...called the decision to invade Iraq "stupid" -- in fact, he said "fucking stupid"...

AIPAC would disagree, OY!!:

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-07-29   15:19:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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